The Office Bitch/Sociopath–Which Sign?

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Okay, so yes. The Office Bitch went into therapy and emerged as a Sociopath or a person with a Mood Disorder such as N.P.D.

She may be a He.   The term Bitch actually has fabulous Pagan witchy-anarcha-goo-goo origins and NO disrespect is intended to lady-dogs or Lilith etc.

But, for the sake of brevity, let’s just say Office Bitch.  And, yes i realise the above pic is awfully flattering to the genre. But it’s probably how they see themselves. Even the men, lol.

I haven’t worked in an actual office since forever but i still recall these types vividly. Their pass-agg sneers, petty machinations and neurotoxic perfume.  I saw a woman stomping up the road the other day, triangular bottom encased in pin-stripes, snarling into fone at some poor fuqer and i had the most lurid flashback.

The other night, at the astro-cabaret night in Melbourne, these two fabulous girls (the industry; M.E.A. Media-Entertainment-Arts) confessed they had come along for help in dealing with their Office Bitch…And she was/is a DOOZIE. Super-dark. Everyone chiming in with suggestions but the creature in question seemed invulnerable.

Suggestion: Feng Shui her desk so that she loses a bit of her power….

M.E.A. Girls: She has SIX DESKS!

Suggestion: Talk to her immediate superior about x-y-z that she is doing to undermine blah….

M.E.A.: She’s sleeping with him!

Suggestion: Talk to the personnel…

M.E.A.  She’s blackmailing him!

And so it went on…Tips for these peeps suffering under an Office-SocioBitch regime are welcome…Plus, Please vote…

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Virgonator

I am 9 Years late to this discussion, but I vote Virgo, with ample experience.

Jake
Jake

I was thinking that Leo would make the ultimate office bitch…. is it possible for a Leo to be born in May? Like a really, really premature birth or something?

forgetmysaghead
forgetmysaghead

Only time i’ve ever experienced real bullying was by a Scorp – she threatened me with the sack and wasnt even my boss. And me a peaceful, easy going Sag too (she says modestly). The woman was as arrogant as hell. she would molest my line manager -a young sag guy who would turn scarlett. The uber boss (an uncharacteristically nice gemini haha) confided to me that he couldnt stand the woman! Interestingly, the other one that springs to mind was a Scorp male boss – rude as hell and universally despised. Not forgetting the Aries woman who treated me… Read more »

annie
annie

Without out doubt the two best bosses (in two different work places) I ever had were both Aquarians. Amazing. Gave respect to people at all levels. Were always fair, upfront and transparent. Encouraged people to meet their full potential. Completely lacking in ego, really celebrated for the people who got a promotion, even if they had spent $$$ on their training and yet the people were then going on to a bigger job elsewhere. They kept their minds open and were always very aware of all the nuances of what was happening. Real commitment to team work rather than boss/slave… Read more »

annie
annie

I work in a Virgo/Scorpio dominated workplace where bullies rule. The office bitch is a Virgo/Libran cusper. One would think Libra would soften her, but no. she tells lies behind the back of people. She monopolises new people until she can work out if they are ripe for bullying or whether she can become their new best friend (though only until she gets sick of them and turns on them) She makes herself essential to lazy bosses above her when she offers to take on roles they should do, but do not. Sadly they cannot see through her. She has… Read more »

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

OMG, you’ve described to a T, a Libran (26 Sept) I worked with. A truly vile creature. *shudder*

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

I don’t want to knock Librans, I really don’t, but a co-worker with Libran influence will charm your patients (if you mention they are a big tipper)…I keep my mouth shut now… 😕

leebee
leebee

aries sun, libra moon, cancer ascendant. wot is the answer? bound to get a punch, a bite and a barrage of insults from this combination…or maybe just stabbed in the back? have come across this combo b4 anf this seems to encapsulate it perfectly. Have a nice day

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

A punch and a bite? Yikes leebee, thats illegal where I live. As an Aries I don’t do it at work, well, at least where anyone can see…he,he…

Pisces in CQ
Pisces in CQ

oh have been there re voicemail thing via an email that I didn’t open on time because I wasn’t in the office Narelle. It was one of the list of things I had in ‘the naughty things I’d done’ the scorpio and libran cooked up. Another was the fact I had apparently shut the door and not let a client in – when I wasn’t even there! Honesty prevailed – but isn’t it harrowing to be cornered and have to defend yourself when all you want to do is deal with the client and get on with getting the job… Read more »

aquaphobe
aquaphobe

many years ago, in another career stream….i had a housemate call in sick for me as i was wretching up the contents of my stomach (flu…not because of fun the night before!) …then went to bed. the next day, still pale and wobbly, i was dragged into a disciplinary meeting and yelled at for not calling in personally. i should have been able to talk to my manager between spews….

agree with seagoat.
.. a low being will stoop to new depths no matter what sign they are.

Narelle
Narelle

Hmm, just a general rundown of the worst…I agree with the high/low of each sign though. Cancer female-she was my team leader for less than a year. In the industry I was in then, we both had worked with a lot of the same people, so when things started going badly between us (I sat through a 2 hour ‘catch up’ which had me doubting my performance and in tears, another ‘catch up’ where somehow I was blamed for taking time away from her marriage etc), I tried to take the high road. The end came when I called her… Read more »

FireTrine
FireTrine

I think a Libra/Scorpio/Cancer combination. They all are feisty and hold grudges.

Aeris
Aeris

Yes, I agree with SeaGoat above…people always seem to forget about the Haute/Low thing and make sweeping generalizations about one sign, usually Gemini and Scorpio. THIS Gemini thinks that’s awfully narrow-and simple-minded of you. ANYWAY!, some of my worst bosses have been Virgo females, as far as on the totally passive-agressive front. Had one who collected a ream of my “mistakes” before ever talking to me about it or giving constructive criticism. Err, thanks. She was also completely inefficient and worked super-long hours to be twice as inefficient! I’ve seen Caps get power and go from super-cool, down with the… Read more »

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

oh totally agree about the Haute/Low thing. Mystics polls are just a bit of fun really and a way for peeps to get things off their chests and share stories.
I should have known better than to react the way i did further up the post but it came after a very frustrating and stressful day with the low Libran bitch.

aquaphobe
aquaphobe

my most supportive loveliest boss ever was a scorp. The worst i’ve dealt with have been self obsessed low aries (never tell them they’re wrong)…a ‘my way or highway’ leo and ‘i’ll sell u out’ gemini…

read somewhere that the method of keeping others out of info loop (mentioned above) is a female v female tactic. Passive aggressive war…

SeaGoat
SeaGoat

As Mystic often points out, there are high and low examples of each sign – it’s interesting to see the reactions of the Scorps above – calm folks, every sign gets a bad rap about something (I’m a Cap, I should know). In my experience I have found some Scorps to be lovely, honest, etc, and others to be downright conniving and out for blood/causing the most damage possible – both in the workplace and personally. Overall, put a bunch of diverse people (although seems to be mostly women office bitches?) together in a small space for long periods of… Read more »

spaced out pisces
spaced out pisces

I concur. Ours is male and Cancer, but exellent at his job. Just totally anal and on a power trip.

olyala
olyala

I think “office bitch” is a complement, someone who can assert themselves is always percieved as bitchy. scorpio’s bring out strong reactions in peeps, either total admiration or total dislike. I think that’s why they’re winning, and their total “dont give a rat’s ass of what you think” attitude can sometimes not go down too well with other peeps.

I <3 them

prowlncat
prowlncat

I think you’ve got assertation confused with manipulation. An assertive person does not need to employ aggressive, deceitful, bullying tactics, nor do they use others selfishly for their own purposes. I know plenty of assertive people whom I admire and who would rather chew off their own arms than behave in that sort of manner. There is no way I would consider any of them “bitchy”. The reason why a “dont give a rat’s ass of what you think” attitude can sometimes not go down too well with other peeps is because most people don’t want to spend their time… Read more »

prowlncat
prowlncat

ps. that was not referring to Scorpios – I was talking about people in general.

olyalya
olyalya

Yeah, i don’t know. I know what you’re saying about bellow the belt tactics, which is plain vindictive so I agree with you that that’s not the way to assert oneself.

I think the attitude has its pluses and minusus. As a positive it means that one has a definite idea of who they are and it can be a put off especially if they are not open to other possibilities, realities, whatnot. And yes it makes it hard for friendly people to tolerate, which is the negative.

anon2
anon2

Scorpio moon and/or mercury act out the most. From outright in your face manipulation — to insulting compliments, any little chance they’re lunging for you. Nowadays if I encounter such a phenomenon (or geminis for that matter, geminis always innocently gossiping and destroying), I play the therapist. Listen, reflect what they say, make an assertion statement, do over. This freaks every single one of them out of their skin and they must let go of the throat because the throat is made of steel and their teeth have just fallen out of their heads.

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Aqua Sun, Gemini Moon office mgr. once said as a dig…..

“I though we were all adults”

Wanted to say… “we are?” : )

Anonymous
Anonymous

I vote low Libra. Superficially charming , but masking a wicked, peevish inner character.

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Pisces CQ said… “I’ve only worked in 4 offices. My first one I was given a payrise for keeping out of the war between a scorpio and a virgo.” I strive to absolutely mind my own business at all times. Find that if I say “I’ve never had that experience with so and so” it defuses their expectations of me agreeing with them and meanwhile they aren’t insulted that I don’t want to get involved. Dr. I work with has twice given me a hug in the past three weeks and a “thanks for all that you do”. Wow, where… Read more »

Pisces in CQ
Pisces in CQ

God! Did this whole posting(s) bring back memories for me! Scorpio’s, gemini’s, librans, and aqua’s in that order. Each have their own way of making anyone else look like a fool. I just adored the six step plan, and have used all of them in my past life, but the last scorpio completely undid me. If I drew the line in the sand, she wouldn’t speak to me or pass on crucial information for days. If I even inadvertantly demonstrate that she had fuqed up somewhere, there were tears and hushed conversations behind closed doors for two days before I… Read more »

Libra Sun/Moon, Virgo rising
Libra Sun/Moon, Virgo rising

It’s always been Taureans with me. The unevolved kind see everything as black and white and if you do something they don’t like, they’ll plot and scheme for ages to get you back, and because they like (having) authority they’ll do it all in a seemingly ‘by the book’ way. (I once had my shit-scared of the boss Pisces tear strips off me because I’d dared to ask our Taurean boss a question.) I know Scorp is usually portrayed this way but in my experience it’s the bulls. I’ve been on the wrong side of Scorps and it’s way easier… Read more »

cortney
cortney

gemini all the fucekn way!

MusicalLibran
MusicalLibran

http://www.bullying.com.au/workplace-bullying/index.php
Some strategies for dealing with them here

Jen Scorpio
Jen Scorpio

To the two fabulous girls from Melbourne who are having trouble with the mega-bitch, Being a scorpio, and judging from the bulk of what has been written above, I feel I am totally qualified to give both some advice about how to deal with an office bitch. So here goes: Step one: do not ever try to empathise with her/make excuses for her. This may go against the grain, but with people like this you have to harden your heart to them. Save your loving kindness etc for someone who truly values you. Step two: I’m sorry to say this,… Read more »

scorpetey
scorpetey

totally excellent advice.. 🙂

I wonder if the documenting everything is a scorp thing? I do it at my work all the time, (used to due to a horrid taurean woman but have to now as 2 of our 3 directors have had serious brain injuries in the past year, have a record, if its not documented it may never have happened…

indigofish
indigofish

see – scorps do know this terrain well!

step 2 reminded me of one the pieces of advice i got – observe the way the pack edges out the weak members. if you are hobbled, or start bitching or whining about how unfair it is, or how you’re being treated, the rest of the pack will side with the bully or stronger member and shut you out.

like you said jen – always be on your game at work.

Über Virgo
Über Virgo

That’s really good advice, Jen. Bitch bullies tend to trade on people’s emotions and if you can remove emotion from the equation it helps a lot.

Also, with the documentation, if the bully gives you any ‘advice’ or directives that push professional boundaries or even job specs, ask them to put it in writing.

Savannah
Savannah

That is great 🙂 & so is this whole post it’s a sad indication of how immature people are and how we have to suffer them. I’m amazed at how many folk get high on their own bullshit in the workplace.

Odette-in-Libra
Odette-in-Libra

That’s really great advice – I’m going to pass it on to a friend who’s been dealing with exactly that kind of person at work.

(One question – do people still leave work at 5 pm? Everyone I know works long hours past that, especially as they advance in their field)

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

at least peeps know where they stand with a Scorpio. Low Librans will ponce around charming the pants off people then stab you in the back!

sassy
sassy

yes, actually, my ex was a libran and although not someone i worked with… she was certainly very charming in a manipulative way…
and i agree, scorps are intense and dark, but honest

sassy
sassy

Sorry, but in my experience of a number of workplaces… Gemini females all the way, in my experience they have been serious alpha females who’ll step on anyone in their stiletto heels to climb to the top…

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

Scorpios? are you kidding me.

I vote low Librans.

Lexicorn
Lexicorn

Without doubt!! 100%. Scorps are fabulous to work with – they are so open to the idea that people are flawed (including themselves) that they never bitch or moan about anything. And they tell the best dirty jokes!

LIBRANS – and I’m not saying all, but like you Robot and FluidF, the low Librans are lying, backstabbing, gossiping, ladder climbing, ego-centric manipulators – and I reckon ‘sign-most-likely-to…’ sleep with a colleague for professional leverage.

Sorry – was a little late on catching this post, and had quite an overprotective urge to speak up when I saw all the unwarranted scorp-bashing.

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

aaaaw thanks Lex but i don’t doubt that there a few low Scorps out there giving the haute Scorps a bad reputation. Can’t wait for Mystics Low/Haute Scorp post… only a few more days 🙂

Lexicorn
Lexicorn

glad you read that right – just realised you could take it as me calling you and FF backstabbing gossips etc…. Meant to write “like you said”… he he he

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

😆 i just read it again and yes i could have taken it the wrong way.

MusicalLibran
MusicalLibran

I’m a Libran – but my ex-boss with self confessed BiPolar disorder but I’d categorise as a sociopath/NPD/rage-a-holic….was also a Libran. When she turned on the charm (usually only towards those she saw as useful) she was blinding in how brilliantly she shone. But when she raged she left scorched earth….and then she always seemed so reasonable and rational when explaining why the poor sod torn to shreds absolutely deserved it. She was brilliant at taking everyone else’s ideas and taking all the credit. It took me 18 months to see how manipulative and destructive she was – and even… Read more »

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

MusicalLibran, don’t worry, you clearly are not like her. The description of your boss sounds almost identical to my Libran boss – thankfully she was forced to resign after the General Manager received 10 complaints about her. Unfortunately, she wasn’t sacked and i have to work with her for another month plus she’s “kindly” agreed to freelance for 2 days a week until xmas…. ggggrrrrr”. She also suffers from NPD and rage-a-holism. Sits there all day bitching and complaining about everybody, is jealous of everyone and is highly competitive about the most ridiculous things. It’s quite ironic that she thinks… Read more »

unpredictable pisces
unpredictable pisces

GOOD ON YOU S’BOT!!! telling the evil boss how it is. And doing it while you were quietly freaking out too – so brave 🙂 We do that don’t we – when we’ve just had ENOUGH and have no option other than to “get it off our chest” … Don’t you feel so much bigger/better / stronger afterwards… xx there’s a Chinese saying, “Embrace Tiger, Return to Mountain” I have my own interpretation (others may find their own): if you are brave and confront the scary stuff with sharp teeth, you come back to the ‘mountain’ that is you –… Read more »

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

Thanks UP. i do feel better and stronger. And yes, there does come a time when enough is enough! She’s actually crawling up my arse now. Pffft. Nothing she does will ever win me back.

Über Virgo
Über Virgo

Interesting too about the self confessed bipolar etc. Dr Phil is right on to that and often finds people who claim to have those conditions are self diagnosed and use it as an excuse for crap behaviour.

When these folks act out in large orgs, it can work to recommend they see HR about a referral to the company psychologist and also recommend they take sick or stress leave until they have a strategy for dealing with their ‘illness’ at work.

matthew-minerva
matthew-minerva

I voted Leo, but i think that was mainly coz of the pic – the lepeard skin just screams LEO!

mons
mons

Voted Cap, my workplace bitch was only a bitch because she was extremely self-interested. I’ll never forget her reaction to being on shift when a person under her care threatened suicide. It was: ‘Is this going to affect my career because it happened on my shift?’. I was mightily disgusted. It was seriously all she could think about. She was also a dibber dobber if she thought it would help her career, a major suckhole and totally insincere. God she was awful.

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Bitch Race Track Hall of Fame Excited Commentator a la 50’s style..

“Rounding the track, Scorp is in the lead folks…

But ah yes, Leo, Virg and Libra holding steady neck and neck in second…

And would you look at that folks! Gemini coming up in third!

Bitches now coming down the straight….OMG, the humanity of it all! Cappy now neck and neck with the trio….A triple crown, no, er, quadruple Bitch fest, er race!”

🙂

“And OMG, positioning has shifted again before we could get this to post, er, print!”

(Soz, Gemini Asc/ Mars needs to go to bed now..)

william
william

saw on tv, a book “Big ass book of crafts” I believe, shows how to do

warhol like art for you photo like that…. awesome… very simple just using
plastic color sheets…. (what a genius warhol was… )

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

lol…like that book title Wills..

leonine lovely
leonine lovely

I love Scorpios to bits. But all the tricky/bitchy people I’ve ever worked with have, unfortunately, been Scorps. But I want to add in their defence, some of the best, most loyal and sincere people I’ve worked with have also been Scorpios. I think Scorps with challenging aspects in their charts are the ones to watch, not Scorps as a bunch.

Baristagem
Baristagem

Soz Aquas, had to vote for you only because of one Aqua who worked in the office was a complete freaking office biatch. She had everyone fooled including me. I still can’t believe I even put in a good word for her to get a promotion! She has caused so much trouble & who knows maybe one day she will slip up.

The Leo Socialite
The Leo Socialite

And the Scorpios i have worked with are actually really upfront. if you piss them off, they will tell you to your face and calmly. few of them are ever petty. and they are professional – though tending to have very weird private lives, you would know it from their professional demeanour.

fluid feline
fluid feline

Yes yes yes – Scorps are authentic!!!!

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Ha,ha, brings back memories…..One time many years ago, was all out of massage oil. Dr. back then did not provide and I was flat broke. Used corn oil on the patients….Scorp. Dr. said “it’s smells like a tortilla factory in here”…OMG….lol I’d call that authentic… And he most certainly had his “cave” he went into between patients. One time, guess my purse smelled like cigarette smoke. It was in the closet by the front office and he opened the door right in front of me and sprayed room freshner. Think he was sending a message, no? Tons of stories with… Read more »

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

hahaha… funny stories

tigerangel
tigerangel

EXACTLY!!! And REALLY tough to guess….look at the pic they chose!! ROFLMAO…we are the BEST bosses and employees…just don’t cross us, lie to us, or go behind our backs…make us look bad and you’re DONE! Not complicated…at all.

The Leo Socialite
The Leo Socialite

I can’t bring myself to vote this way but i think it is actually leo…when worked in pr i ended up in a perfumed room with three of them plus me. Terrifying. And the woman above -if you look closely- has a portrait of herself on the wall that she is mimicing. one of the leos i worked with had a LARGE professionally done, photo-shopped and framed photo of herself on the wall of the office, said it motivated her to be her best. She was always trying to get us to do new age stuff together to become more… Read more »

fluid feline
fluid feline

TLS – I’m inclined to agree – one look at pic above – it screams LEO Mememe!!

Gala
Gala

Ahahaha dreadful foot fungus problem! Classic.

prowlncat
prowlncat

Sorry Scorps, but I had to vote Scorp since my one and only office biotch experience was with a Scorp. A total nightmare control freak bitch from hell down right evil cow. Her own advertising agency sacked her and afterwards threw an office party to celebrate. My nickname for her was Madam Hitler. But in a way I have her to thank for getting me into graphic design, as originally I was in marketing – she was my first boss on my first marketing gig – and the experience left me so scarred that I changed my career! So …… Read more »

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

This is a hard one, thinking back. So many bitches, so little time… 🙂 I voted for my Sagg Sun, Aries Moon co-worker because when she wants to turn a cold shoulder she does. Hey, I’m an Aries Sun so two can play or choose not to play so I go my merry way….~good-bye~… We’re good now as time melted her freeze but currently, she’s not speaking at all the the Double Cappy therapist in the office. Aries Moon got pissed at me cuz me and Double Cappy Moon got Aqua Sun, Gem Moon, Aries Mars office mgr. in trouble… Read more »

Savannah
Savannah

hahahaha! quote, “so many bitches so little time.” LOL I love it & so true.

The ex whom we still work together if female would look like that woman in the pic Mystic posted. He’s Libra sun, Leo moon & lots & lots of Virgo. A nitpicky bitch from hell when he chooses to be. He rivals some of the worst ones I dealt with working all those years in an office environment. A real piece of work in subtle manipulation, if I’m not on my toes he gets me almost every time.

forgetmysaghead
forgetmysaghead

He sounds like my ex – a lib sun, toro moon, scorp merc and venus virgo. abso-bloody-lutely horrendous, nightmare on wheels. nitpicky ? check. manipulative? check. shallow? insincere? self-obsessed? neurotic? depressive? check, check and double check. I just wasnt perfect enough you see. god help the current g/f (assuming she has managed to withstand the whining, the forever-changing-goalposts and the relentless me me me -ism). But the worst -esp for a sag – the pathological lying; i could’ve merrily pick-axed him.

fluid feline
fluid feline

All you peeps who are voting for Scorps – are you afraid – verrry afraid?? Why don’t do back up your vote with an evidential quote?? Come on – let’s get real guys – scorps get enuf hard press!

postmodscorp
postmodscorp

thanks FF for sticking up for Scop bosses! I am still in contact with my old team, and they still tell me, more than 18 months after I left that I was the best boss they had….

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

yes thanks FF. Just got home, saw the post, looked at the results and was a bit shocked i must say. Haven’t read all the comments yet.

Scorp Scorp
Scorp Scorp

Thanks to all lovely scorps. I picked fire signs – okay, maybe less for being bitchy but for being bossy. 😀

fluid feline
fluid feline

scorpalishy – voted libra in honour of your perfumed nightmare!

fluid feline
fluid feline

Oh puleease (no offence indigofish – great name btw) – why does everyone pick on scorps?? I’ve for the most part found them extraordinarily authentic and good to deal with. – in fact of all my bosses over my lifetime = No. 1. SCORPIO fem; No. 2. VIRGO male = LEO male. I’m hypothesising the air signs are the pain the ass office beeatch as they luurve to gossip and waste space. Shoot me down air-dudes (no offense intended , just having fun 🙂

indigofish
indigofish

yah that was my point. the instant reaction was to vote scorp just cos of my memory of this dude, and i guess cos its the stereotype, but then when i had a second to think about it, the geminis really stood out as deserving of a vote (or 2). the scorp actually tried to help me gain an insight into that world of office politics so i guess that was pretty real. caps can be cold as ice in the office, and suddenly switch back to “sorry, do i know you?” when trying to be prof in front of… Read more »

postmodscorp
postmodscorp

I feel for the M.E.A Girls – having been there twice, I have only empathy, and no suggestions!
Unless she’s diddled her corporate card, then rat her out. Thats what happened in my workplace recently….

indigofish
indigofish

i cast my vote for scorpio based on working with one who was convinced that i needed “training” in the ways of office politics. perhaps i did, but i wasn’t terribly happy with what i learnt. however i do think that geminis can be a bit of a handful in this area as well. my friend/underminer at school was a gemini, and others I have had troubles with at work have been geminis. though gemini men are sometimes v interesting to me (despite my narcissistic schizophrenic father leaving me with bad memories of badly behving geminis). i think it’s the… Read more »