What In Her Horoscope Would Have Had Her In a Nunnery? Venus Uranus

 

“…In 1661, the Italian furniture maker Schor, who worked with the sculptor Bernini, made a splendid State bed for the Princess Marie Mancini in Rome. Commissioned to celebrate her firstborn son’s public presentation, it was documented in her writings, “I lay in a new bed prepared for my first son’s birth … and the magnificence of it excited admiration everywhere…”

So I Wiki the woman and she is a Virgo. Yes. But,,,

“She was born in Rome, the daughter of Michele Lorenzo Mancini and Geronima Mazzarini. “Dark, vivacious and beautiful,” Marie captured the biggest prize of the French court: the love of Louis XIV.

 

According to Antonia Fraser’s biography Love and Louis XIV, Marie’s mother, Hieronyma (or Geronima) was told by a horoscope that Marie would cause trouble and demanded on her deathbed that Cardinal Mazarin should “shut Marie up in a convent and keep her there.

Marie Mancnini Italian Virgo Aristocrat

So, she is a Virgo & that’s not enough to have people wanting to whack you away in a nunnery…Her Venus in Libra is conjunct Uranus (very much the individualist and free love exponent) but as Uranus was not discovered until 1781, that cannot have been the “problem” with her horoscope.  And besides, her Venus is trine Saturn, which would be welcomed as a stability inducer for sure.

Her Moon is in Leo and if she were born in the morning, it’s conjunct Mars. Moon-Mars in Leo, given the cultural values of the time, was most likely looked upon as the potential trouble….Hot-headed, libidinal, attention seeking and an intense inner life.

She would have gone mental in a nunnery & thankfully was not consigned to one after all. Is not her bed pure Mars-Moon in Leo???

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fallen angel
fallen angel

I’m a Kataka sun, Virgo Rising too..but I more enjoy the fantasy of recreating my virginity than being anywhere near a nunnery – except to eat there because they are amazing cooks, one of the few pleasures allowed. But then again, I grew up in private Catholic schools so the romance is gone for me..and with Venus in Leo, anything that spare didn’t stand a chance. Soz, did she actually write about contemplating “giving birth” OR “conceiving” her son in this bed.. I cannot imagine a more impractical bed for anything that bloody and well, stressful. It is however, very… Read more »

triple cancer chick
triple cancer chick

yeah i get the nunnery thing. I’m virgo rising and have contemplated shaving my head and becoming an buddhist monk.

Kiki
Kiki

We sure are the undervalued firecrackers, Elena. I am really quite happy with it personally! Apropos the Virgoan-nun-weirdness, I’m a Virgo (with Mars in Leo) and when I was a baby, a seer (love that term) assured my Mum that I was a nun in my last life. And then recently I was at a party with another Virgo woman who I had just met. Everyone started talking about clothes and she turned and whispered to me that if it wasn’t such a big deal she’d wear a nun’s habit all the time. I looked at her and said ‘Bingo!!!’.… Read more »

Leonine Librarian
Leonine Librarian

Never under value the weird. Thanks for the peek into a Virgo mind Kiki.

Elena
Elena

She has crazy eyes..

maybe she has a prominent Neptune on the angles. That shell sure smacks of sea. It could have been her moon-mars, but We Virgos are the undervalued fire-crackers of the zodiac per se…

william
william

Of course there is reincarnation silly. Probably takes a lot to remember, it is considered to be the crowning acheivement of the way of Anthroposophy for example… I’ve not seen any work on the subject particularly impressive but I am not much of a judge (and don’t really look at what material there is..) but there are interesting things in natal chart sometimes for sure… and sometimes seems like you can perceive karma, the recent nodal shift for example pretty sure I felt something but didn’t work with it but definitely something inner telling me this was past life karma… Read more »

Leonine Librarian
Leonine Librarian

Just came across this quote while trying to find out her Mum’s birthdate. ‘Marie …was considered the least beautiful of the sisters but she obtained the biggest prize of all: Louis XIV. He was so besotted with her that he wanted to marry her but he was constrained to give her up for political reasons. She later married Prince Lorenzo Colonna who remarked that he was surprised to find her a virgin as one does not expect to find ‘innocence among the loves of kings’. (from Antonia Fraser’s book Love and Louis XIV)’ Meanwhile her Cancerian sister Olympia caused quite… Read more »

xox rockstar libran publicist xox
xox rockstar libran publicist xox

LL thanks fpr sharing!!

seems the Medici clan were nothing on these guys.
off for further investigation. thanks Myst. & LL……love this xox

Baristagem
Baristagem

She may have attracted a lot of unsavoury attention from the men being ‘dark, vivacious & beautiful’.
I think she enjoyed the attention she getting just from having the bed. It really is amazing & she is still attracting attention centuries later. Whatever she’s got it’s still working!

nebulous virgo
nebulous virgo

This is the bed of my dreams! Either this one or just a mattress…

Virgo Sun, Leo Moon.

fluid feline
fluid feline

She looks strikingly like Terese Rein (wife of Australian PM K Rudd) don’t you think!! Didn’t scorpalicious robot say K Rudd was a Virgo with a Leo Moon – tres spooky.

xox rockstar libran publicist xox
xox rockstar libran publicist xox

last century, circa backpacking era, I rode a famous Bernini statue. an elephant atop a huge pedestal, outside a famous Roman monument. even the carabinieri laughed. couldn’t work out how one small girl was up so high. was just prior to the chariot races (then trash cans were tall on these wheelie things) which we appropriated & raced to the Trevi fountain. for a sunrise swim. god peeps must cringe at the juvenile Aussie on tour!!

love that bed. spectacular. thanks for the post. xox

xox rockstar libran publicist xox
xox rockstar libran publicist xox

have been calling the return of Rococo for years. Really.
http://thepeakofchic.blogspot.com/2009/08/rococo-revery.html

Leonine Librarian
Leonine Librarian

I saw this on peak of chic too rlp, and then saw looked up it’s bespoke maker in England…love the direction Mystic has gone with it…espec, first comment about being a Virgo not being enough to look someone up in a Nunnery…although in my own Virgoan twist, my Virgo dad threatened/encouraged me with the nunnery all through my childhood….even though I have 2 children he still mentions it a little too longingly.

Can you imagine the follow through though of the emotive deathbed request? Ala Marie’s mum? Love to know what parent is prepared to go THAT far.

xox rockstar libran publicist xox
xox rockstar libran publicist xox

mother named brother after an almost saint. in quest to make said guy saint. some great aunt of ours was the alleged required 3rd ‘miracle’ that embued peter julian eymard with saint hood. ANYWAYS I never got it / that…….. & post 13 years of convent school, dont get why La Mancini was allegedly confined to a convent. she reminds me of my fave ppl. different. brazen. outspoken. saucy. done giva flock attitude when uber conservatism kicks in, or something!! xox ps LOVE besoke bed co – claims original bed was hand carved from mahogany. then seems doused in gilt… Read more »

xox rockstar libran publicist xox
xox rockstar libran publicist xox

PPSS mother STILL references ‘her baby boy’, sometimes, as ‘my priest’. If only he was. for sure he’d lead the heard to the good clean fun park!!

LL maybe yr dad’s dreaming along this plane??
xox

bluelibra
bluelibra

My Cap daughter just walked past as I was checking out the bed photo – ‘Whoa, that person must really like crystal.’ she said. 🙂

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