Tarot, Astro-Fiends & House Systems

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Box of Tarot CardsSo i get told heaps that it is “unlucky” to buy your own Tarot deck. Or else i get asked if this is true. I don’t believe this for a moment, though anyone who wants to gift me a Thoth Tarot is more than welcome.

The reason it’s considered an ill-omen to buy your own comes from the Burning Times – in an age of oppression and council (!) driven atrocities & theocide against those considered not with the Christian program, it was essential to be able to say someone else gave you the ‘devil’s playing cards.’  Same reason so many powerful witchy herbs achieved such popular culinary usage…And  the mega-powerful & magic Artemesia (Flower of Artemis) was re-named as the dull-sounding Mugwort…

Currently I have the Waite Deck & i love it but the Thoth deck is something else; it always feels modern and the images translate more directly into one’s subliminal mind than do the medieval ones of the Waite. Obviously, the accuracy of any form of divination depends upon a variety of factors & keeping a journal is vital to understanding. So that you know what a card or a dream image means to YOU. It’s always personal.

I still totally recall throwing my first and only Thoth deck into a fire as Pluto was about to conjoin my Midheaven. I was too new to astrology to get the Pluto thing but i was sitting squat-legged on shagpile rug in front of a blazing late winter fire doing my tarot and it kept coming up with the same stuff – no matter how i shuffled…The Tower, Death, Nine of Swords…blah blah blah, the shit-fest from hell…I didn’t feel freaked out getting the cards -the vibe in the room was benevolent – i felt relaxed and connected with a good force.

But the cards – i blamed them & chucked the whole lot in the fire, went to get a glass of wine, called a guy to come around and assuage the tension…SO the cards i destroyed were right! The very next week the newspaper i was a journalist on closed down so I was unemployed and in the same day the man i was in love with told me he’d just gotten his ex pregnant as he “owed” her a baby + my flatmates took off, leaving me with what then felt like an insurmountable bill to pay. My point: the cards were right.

This is a point for astro-fiends & wiccan types only but it’s like how in astrology the Koch house system seems to work right down to the minute when it comes to timing transits but be a bit dodgy for natal charts – with Tarot, it’s like the Waite deck is sensational at glomping onto the mood/vibe but Thoth seems to be – like the Koch house system- super accurate if  you’re working with receptive peeps.

Thoth is the Egyptian Mercury-Hermes…BTW

Note: I don’t think ‘theocide’ is a word – what do you call a ‘genocide’ purely against pagans, witches or people you suspect have a belief system different to yours?

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brigid

The mere mention of Crowley gives me hackles – anyone who would change the axiom, ‘Do as thou wilt, ere it harm none’, to ‘Do as thou wilt’, is the epitome of childish arrogance in my reckoning. Years ago a mentor gave me a Rider Waite deck that was worn bare from her day job of reading Tarot. A while down the track we had what was known to be a typical falling out for her and I was flailing at work in an atmosphere that was screaming for decent honesty, the cards weren’t helping, I knew I was leaning… Read more »

milleunanotte
milleunanotte

At Uni a friend’s first same-sex partner, an Aqua and I became friends. He was great fun but really into Crowley, to the point where he ws intimating a reincarnation or other psychic connection. I knew little to nothing of Crowley then, despite my secret foraging in the Hermes Trismegistus tomes in the untouched sections of the grand uni library. But i had a strong response. Whenever friend talked about him i found my mind going like GLASS, shiny and smoothcurved, giving off nothing but transparency and reflections, absorbing nothing. To this day i have some deep LOCK for no… Read more »

Scorched Earth
Scorched Earth

Spooky MM… I had the Thoth deck years ago and used them a bit during some strange times and then bundled them into a mixed bag of things in my mind that was dark. I had some strange dark energy weirding and spirit lurking, eg pushing me across the room, sliding glasses into the sink whilst I’m washing dishes.. yeah yeah, I’ll get to them I’m saying and sitting on my lap every time I sat down. Intense stuff in that realm. Anyway there’s lots and more and too much to list during that period. I also struck up a… Read more »

spaced out pisces
spaced out pisces

I have read a lot of Crowley, and a lot about him. Indeed he was an utter shit to many. Libra male, nuff said. Regardless he was a man with a mission. I understand it can be hard to detach from the horrid persona, also the fact he was a raging heroin addict, and in our time we know personally how low they can go. He wrote a lot and most of what he wrote has a a lot of worth. He is difficult to read, and has a unique style. I hear he is taught in English Lit class… Read more »

Ms Motown
Ms Motown

The death card is nowhere near as frightening as it is in schlock movies. It is merely about something drawing to a close. I got it in a spread the other day. And, lo! I’ve sold my house and looking for a new home….

Leonine Librarian
Leonine Librarian

Congrats Ms Motown. I did see something about this past weekend being a big one for you. I hope you find a lovely new abode.

Ms Motown
Ms Motown

Crowley was a manipulative creep

venus a-go-go
venus a-go-go

Pity it wasn’t a nicer card really… cos other wise I kinda like the idea of a card infused life/space…
… The Tower really has gotta suck…

Vulzaen
Vulzaen

I bought this “tarot deck” of sorts when I was a teenager, it’s an “Egyptian Oracle” or other. Very child like looking cards with naff basic heiroglyphics looking images on them. Despite my complete amateurism in using them, they were surprisingly accurate. That’s also coming from me thinking it was a load of horse shit when I was doing the pre-reading meditation to “find my inner self” or something. I still get the mental image of my “inner self” and let’s just say, I play too many computer games. So anyways, I haven’t touched them since because it all seemed… Read more »

crabilicious
crabilicious

lol pegasus that is the funniest thing I have read in ages

pegasus
pegasus

Would never do Tarot for anyone else. Would show them how to look themselves.
And can abide no one doing mine but me.
But do keep your magical things in a beautiful box & wrapped in silk.
Touching someone’s Tarot w/o permission is unwanted & unwise, with Mother & Daughter
that’s different.
Wouldn’t ya know he was a Libran, my least fave men as they have been the darkest i have
known, so wow, may have had the same Astro profile, or similar.

Maybe he reincarnated as Doreen Virtue for karmic purposes:)

pegasus
pegasus

Very naughty man! Evol….touch naught of his.

starstrokes
starstrokes

The Crowley Thoth deck was painted by psychic artist & Egyptologist Frieda Harris, who worked off Crowley’s rough sketches & visual descriptions. Crowley admits that Harris’ dedication & genius lead to the deck becoming a wholly new deck,so much more than an update of the classic Medieval Tarot that he originally intended.
*Read Gerd Ziegler “Tarot Mirror of the Soul” for “haute” Thoth insight.

venus a-go-go
venus a-go-go

I am not sure about it being bad luck to touch someone else deck… My mother has a thoth deck and I used to love going through it and looking at all the beautiful artwork. She rarely reads for other off the Thoth deck. If fact my mother avoids reading for others (unless really required), even though she is really very talented at it. I asked her why once and she explained that she spent a while in the company of a woman who used her tarot as a way of manipulating people around her… and that she didn’t want… Read more »

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

your mum sounds lovely. What sign is she?

venus a-go-go
venus a-go-go

She is the cusp of Toro and Gem…

… she picks and chooses which way she wants to be really;)

(oddly, she is picking Gem more and more often these days…)

Ms Motown
Ms Motown

I bought my own, not knowing about the ‘witches tale’ about bad luck. I love my deck, really love the pictures. Many resonate so strongly with me! But the info book is sometimes a bit minimalist and simplistic. Is it true that you should keep them wrapped in silk? I don’t adhere to the “its bad luck to let someone touch them” school of thought. For a very quick reading, get someone to cut the deck. They choose the card. Also, I read somewhere to keep them under your pillow so they absorb your dreams. Truth be told, they are… Read more »

Lesly
Lesly

My mother has a tarot deck somewhere, but it’s bad luck to touch someone else’s deck so I am unsure of their whereabouts. I’ve been DYING for a William Blake deck. They look absolutely lovely, but I think they’re all sold out now.

fishorsemomma
fishorsemomma

The Thoth deck was my first experience of tarot in the 80’s, I learnt from a Rajneesh teacher who put a more ‘positive’ spin on the cards than Crowley, I had no idea what any of it was about. But over the years came to really love and respect them, their depth and being the only cards I have come across who look at physics and the kabbalah and numerology and astrology, and yes, uncannily accurate. I read a lot about Crowley after having them for some years and I do believe he was a somewhat misguided genius (perhaps it… Read more »

spaced out pisces
spaced out pisces

Had many Tarots over the years 10+ Never bought one for myself. I did once ask someone to by me a deck, Golden Dawn the Cicero one though. Have a huge Thoth deck, was given to me by a lady because I have big hands and can deal with them. They are a true work of art, a delight to behold as well as being a fully functional Tarot. The Rider Waite pack is the one I have stuck with the most, and is the only one I ever consulted with. I went through various packs before I got to… Read more »

Lark
Lark

That’s funny, I did a tarot reading last night for someone, and up came the death card, the hangman card and the tower card. I tried to put it in a gentle way, that something could change or happen, but she got terribly upset, probably because I failed miserably at the tact part.

The cards were very compelling and screaming out, but I didn’t really know how to talk it through in a totally benign way so that she would stop freaking out. Bugger. Not such a successful reading.

spirit
spirit

LOL…the “tact ” part !

pegasus
pegasus

Molly & Lark, in those tricky situations, search for High Priestess or Star & cover the ‘offending -off-ending?’ones & ask for intervention of a benevolent nature to intervene. Originally, the 12 major’s were initiations into the Egyptian Mysteries. Egyptian – Gypsy. Anything to do with A.Crowley disgusts me as abuse & deception of power. The MotherPeace Tarot, i lived in the Pacific for 2 years & since then it’s the Animal Medicine Cards i consult for strategy & behaviour, the I Ching if it’s more ‘politic’……covers personal & public guidance for me & never let me down or have me… Read more »

crabilicious
crabilicious

and I am also having a Koch/Placidus crisis at the moment, funny you mention it.

crabilicious
crabilicious

Thoth is such an honest deck and the only one I use to read for myself. I gave it the nickname the deck of doom! Piffle on buying your own deck, just piffle! I am down to three decks these days as I had to get over my addiction. From 2003-05, I bought near each new deck that came out and had a HUGE ebay sale a few years later! I really loved the Golden Tarot by Kat Black, another hot aussie kicking butt!

Baristagem
Baristagem

I have limited knowledge in tarot & am learning- this is fascinating info! My Capricorn friend is a tarot reader who reads my cards & had recently decided it is time for me to have my own. He has spent months searching for the ‘right’ ones as his belief is that the tarot deck is bought for you as well. I only learnt of this last week as he was flying off to Europe & he said he ‘felt’ he would find the right tarot deck for me in Spain. Now I’ve read this maybe I should call him &… Read more »

fallen angel
fallen angel

Was something pointing south for him Barista? haha…

I’ve been using the Dragonfae Oracle which I bought myself so I too am sans proper tarot. From what the Divine M has wrote, it looks like Thoth would be for me – I LOVE receptivity and always feel suspicious when I am being read something so outside myself.

Darling Mystic, that was a shit week..but as you probably guess, I empathize!

unpredictable pisces
unpredictable pisces

i was going to give away my tarot cards (that my dad gave me when I was 15) as i felt that i didn’t ‘connect’ with them. i’m not sure if my cards and me speak the same language? I do like runes, feel they tell me more. but in the end i couldn’t bring myself to part with the cards.

unpredictable pisces
unpredictable pisces

yes and theocide would really mean the killing of gods…which i suppose is what the christians did when they went about dominating / overwriting various cultures…genocide ..persecution? where’s my OED..

starstrokes
starstrokes

mmm I’m loving the Thoth deck right now, I find it compellingly beautiful, whereas when I was younger, I found the imagery too overwhelming, preferring a Qabbalist deck that was very astro & diagrammatic. I also love the Sabian symbols- they are very friendly & a little kooky.

*Hereticide would cover it do you think?

Anonymous
Anonymous

Wow, I love this story from your life! What a bad week.

I’m going for ‘pogrom’ off the top of my head, for want of a better answer to your question as to what to call the shitty behaviour of patriachal rulers against those connected to nature although I’m sure there’d be something more specific…

something fishy
something fishy

sorry, not signed in above…