Dancing With Dickheads: What Your Enemies Taught You

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“Wise men learn many things from their enemies.” Aristophanes.

And wise women too, for sure. I think every sage has a variation on this sentiment. Sun Tzu & Katharine Hepburn et al. It’s true. If you think about it, the negative role-modelling of F-wits is often a fabulous example of what-not-to-be and their enmity a major compliment. As in, they’re so nuts, if they loathe you, perhaps you are doing something right after all. Even their criticism, though infuriating or ill-motivated, can contain a seed of insight.

The Astro-Cliche is usually that’s it is our Scorpio who is most capable of retaining emo toward an enemy.

In general, the Fixed Signs (Taurus, Leo, Scorpio, Aquarius) are most inclined to cling on to enmity or keep shit-lists in their secret drawer. Aries arc right up at the first sign of dissing. Librans consider all enemies to have deeply sad personal problems that they, the darling Libran, feels awful about but what can they do? Leos assume the neg feelings of enemies spring from extreme envy.

Taurus is – in my opinion- the most likely to be a good hater.

The Mutables (Pisces, Gemini, Virgo, Sagittarius) tend to forget & airily assume that life/qi/karma/elan vitale will take care of the enemy. Capricorns bear no (official) grudge and certainly nothing that can be tracked back and used against them but they do not forget. Cancerians are surprisingly vengeful and canny when they want to be.

But let’s do it; What have your enemies taught you? And they need not be full on aggressive enemies – lessons learned from dickheads are equally applicable. I learned the hard way that if you attempt to be nice/friendly/polite to low-rent people, they take it as a sign of utter craven weakness on your part & that seeing as they’re going to loathe you ANYWAY, you may as well disengage and get on with individuating, living well et al.

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FireHorse
FireHorse

I’d have to agree with above sag’s (who as you can see became disinterested in the whole topic after stating their initial opinion, as enemies and their whereabouts don’t take up much of our gray matter) Karma does have a way of taking care…
Only it’s like a clock or a pot, you can’t watch it, then it never comes.
Best to forget the whole thing and move on, then be pleasantly surprised when you hear of person X’s misfortune months, years, decades later. 😛

Heather
Heather

I’m a Libra who disagrees with your posting that we feel awful about our enemies. I loathe my enemies and take great pleasure in hurting them. I’ll wait decades to strike if I have to, and I don’t consider it a win until they are completely destroyed. Don’t underestimate Librans. Remember we often have a helluva lot of Scorpio stelliums in our charts.

em
em

‘he who has but one friend has not a friend to spare, and he who has one enemy will meet him everywhere’

Indian Proverb

em
em

am sorry though for causing a ruckuss, and hurting scorp-bot’s feelings

em
em

haha you guys are awesome. thanks for reminding me of some things i learned from my old best friend that i had clearly forgotten

1. never apologize when you’re in the right, just to improve relationships. it doesn’t work

2. never diminish yourself just for someone else’s convenience or benefit

3. never try to endear yourself to anyone. as mystic has said, you will only incur their contempt.

4. the ones you never should’ve bothered with are always the most high-maintenance

peace out, to all y’all

pegasus
pegasus

Exceptional this thread…so right Ubes, the balancing act that comes from Wisdom and having core ethics and integrity. We seemingly have been blessed with that and grace as well. That’s Dignity Itself. Hope Myst is ok, now i understand why she said peeps worry about her (or worry her?) ha ha, hope is she is putting some energy into herself! Chesh, that is great news. It IS a lovely romance, 2 Earth signs that like-love each other, both having some rounds on the dance floor & now wish to Slow Dance Together. Yum. Just reading stats on living together first… Read more »

cheshire cap
cheshire cap

Thank you Sweet Pegs. We’ve been spending Q time together for six months now and both know what we have is wonderful.

I like the idea of 16 first dates. It keeps the magic alive. Not sure about ‘slow dance’ though. What was that old dance instruction? Quick quick slow slow ➡ Variety is the spice…….of all sorts of things 😉

pegasus
pegasus

Myst Darling, it’s taken me days to absorb Dancing with DickHeads! It was so interesting provoking deep thought & the examples in real life. One that said SHE says sorry if SHE’S bumped into. I totally get that but i do it as reverse psychology, so that they will aplogise. only works with same sex & age. With my half Sicilian-ness it has been a long exploration as have been a Holy Terror in the past UNTIL i discovered Aromatherapy in ’79 in Belgium, close to France & Germany where there were some fabulous rediscoveries in Healing & Health &… Read more »

cheshire cap
cheshire cap

Pegs, I’ve got the original Donavan on vinyl and it’s been a favourite for ever.x And agree with you re courtesy and manners. I don’t show dislike because that’s how I was taught from the cradle. I show the ones I care about that I do and treat any others politely. My sweet Aqua friend lost her beautiful boy Siamese yesterday. He was only 6yrs old but had a genetic heart problem and had little quality of life so she had to make the dreadful decision. She also has his twin sister and both my friend and cat are fretting… Read more »

Leonine Librarian
Leonine Librarian

oh Chesh actions do speak loudly and that he is making it possible to be closer to you…woohoo indeed…Thanks for sharing your lovely news

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

aaaaw, that’s fabulous Chesh! Woohoo indeed.

Uber Virgo
Uber Virgo

How fab CC! Bring on the Cheshire Canoodle fest!

cheshire cap
cheshire cap

thanks you guys. I’m doing the happy dance.

nat
nat

Great news CC. Lucky You! Hope it all goes well.

fluid feline
fluid feline

Lovely Chesh, good wishes to you both earth lovelies, thinking this will go well!

xox rockstar libran publicist xox
xox rockstar libran publicist xox

Spesh – loving thoughts to your friend & so really happy for you and your next phase darlin!! that;s really really great news! xox

cheshire cap
cheshire cap

Thanks again…you guys are making me feel all warm and fuzzy….blessings to all xox

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

Pegs, “floor your enemies with courtesy & manners” i like that too. You have Cap rising like me no? Years ago I saw an ex that i was still in love with kissing a girl right in front of me. It was a few weeks after we broke up and he was surely doing it to get me jealous. I can’t tell you how badly i wanted to grab a drink and pour it over them but i left the bar instead. I later found out that he was asking my friends about me after i left. Dignity always wins.… Read more »

fluid feline
fluid feline

scorpalischy – that’s what I have done in exactly same situation (long ago)and for years thought I was being a whimp but have realised same – dignified versus dickhead wins.

Uber Virgo
Uber Virgo

Pegs, the dancing with dickheads thing HAS been interesting. It seems to boil down to the balancing act between assertiveness and kindness. The folks who tend to struggle with this the most are the sensitive conscientious types who have difficulty saying no and have trouble comprehending the harshness of some. They are often targetted by ruthless types who seek to exploit their gentleness for their own ends, and as a result the sensitive ones struggle internally, punishing themselves for not being able to protect themselves. They WISH they had an inner Sicilian! No matter how gentle our instincts are, there… Read more »

em
em

thank you uber

Uber Virgo
Uber Virgo

And while I’m rabbitting on, when you get really good at saying no to boundary pushers, you can do it without making any excuses. I think Mystic uses the phrase ‘don’t complain, don’t explain’. I wish I could remember the latin.

Leonine Librarian
Leonine Librarian

UV I think Disreali has been attributed that quote…not sure of the Latin either… I’ve found that if you try to explain or mix in a complaint it gives the boundary pushers an in, to continue trying to ignore the boundary you are trying to establish…so I can see why the don’t complain or explain can be more painfree if you are prepared to step up and fix that boundary. Stating whatever you want in a straight forward tone also seems to be effective…not always easy in the moment…but with most boundary pushers you’ll get more than one chance to… Read more »

cheshire cap
cheshire cap

Ne pas se plaindre, ne pas s’expliquer, ne rien attendre.

French for ” don’t complain, don’t explain nor expect ” sort of x

cheshire cap
cheshire cap

I think a Tori Amos quote is a good one “People complain about their memories and never their minds”

I remember when I was going through a really rough patch and being stoic that Uncle George said to me “It’s the squeeky wheel that gets the oil Pet”

pegasus
pegasus

‘Thick Face Black Heart’ is a book i was going to recommend for Em.

We can see the eastern thought appled to the lesson of the cat & dove.
Nature of…………
It has taken me a loooong time to accept that this really is a predatory world
& how to be alright with that, without petting the sweaty stuff:)

pegasus
pegasus

FF………adore well brought up cats. They can be trained. My dove was a sitting duck so to speak. These ferals next door are unvaccinated & desexed after 3 loads of kittens. They belong to DV (Demented Virgo). The day i moved in same cat bit my breautiful fluffy 10 year old white Goddess of Pussycats (only eva 3 birds same as you). She figured real quick that if she just sat close & watched them feed, she could have hours of entertainment, instead of pouncing & frightening them away! Cute. Well, she was bit on the bum & contracted a… Read more »

fluid feline
fluid feline

Oh pegs that’s too sad. Damn cat is only being a cat. But still. My male burmese has brought three birds in over his lifetime (when he was a teenager in cat time) – all of which I rescued and released. I think he was just showing me how clever he was, cause he hadn’t bitten them (except for a duckling that I took to the vet and know was ok and sent to live with wildlife carer before being released onto a property). My reaction to him was severe and I think he’s got the message cause he doesn’t… Read more »

pegasus
pegasus

Wishing you wisdom Em.
The next door cat just killed an old dove i was feeding & sheltering
from rain & storms.
First i wanted to KILL the cat i was sooo angry, then i realised that i could
have protected the dying dove better, knowing there was a cat next door that’s a predator.
The bird was relying on me….i let it down & my reaction was to kill the cat!
Silly.

cheshire cap
cheshire cap

Oh Pegs. So sad but Gaia can be cruel. Bless

em
em

some of your responses to my outburst really made me smile, thanks guys. not sure if anyone’s still reading this thread, but i’ve been thinking about this so clearly i need to apologize. first, sorry to all the functional scorps who can admit when they have grudges and always know the meaning of their offensive posts! but, more importantly, sorry Scorpalicious Robot for hurting your feelings, specially when you were highly evolved enough to wish me well after i gave you the sh*ts! it hurts me that i hurt you. you posted the most offensive mean-spirited f*ed-up quote i’ve EVER… Read more »

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

em, I can’t believe you’re getting hung up on a stupid quote. It is not my bible for relating to people. It was a flippant, spontaneous remark and I did mention that i didn’t know who was responsible for the quote but i liked it anyway. I’ve never read San Tzu, just familiar with some of the quotes. If you think that quote is “the most offensive mean-spirited f*ed-up quote you’ve EVER heard on Mystics blog” then fine. I’m not going to argue about semantics. The quote, like anything, is open to interpretation. And if i choose to see the… Read more »

xox rockstar libran publicist xox
xox rockstar libran publicist xox

em – don’t get your knickers in a knot, keep your wig on, it’s only a storm in a tea cup, you’re barking up the wrong tree, you’re a mountain out of a mole hill…………….chillax!

there’s a thing called an ‘expression’.

hope you’re having a good weekend. xox

xox rockstar libran publicist xox
xox rockstar libran publicist xox

‘making’ a mountain – phew imagine if I accidentally called you a ‘mole’…..;-) xox

em
em

haha, yeah. i seriously thought that post meant taht the writer thought we should all be sucking up to people we hate for our own gain, and also that betrayal is bad…. lucky i didn’t call her an a**hole!! especially since it’s a total misunderstanding!! it’s hard for me to see why i got abused more after the best apology i could muster without totally selling out. oh well i thought i had some good insights re enemies & stuff. i actually thought there’d be people who didn’t like strategizing in personal relationships either. turns out ‘keep your friends close… Read more »

matthew-minerva
matthew-minerva

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Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Never felt anyone was an enemy in my life but have learned to not be naive. Others have their own agendas and it’s not always savory. DavidL, my dad used to joke alot about giving us kids the “evil eye” and he would do this scary eye/face thing and we would laugh. He also cursed us with “monkey bones” 🙂 Totally agree with keeping some good fortune to oneself as others covet with they don’t have and will resent you for it. A double Capricorn boyfriend (Sun/Mn) once said, “don’t tell anyone anything!” He was a Kung Fu Master and… Read more »

Nora Parsley
Nora Parsley

So good to hear all these comments! Very encouraging.

Like UberVirgo, Virgo sun, Aries moon, also bullied at work. I was the admin person – actual quote from bully rep: “because you were so pleasant, I thought you were just a dumb secretary” – until I got promoted ahead of people with MA’s. Well, what tactic wasn’t used to bring me down. Pass agg, mobbing, rumours, public humiliation, private manipulation… so I left, went back to uni and now *I’m* the one doing the MA. If I got so far without it, my enemies can just eat my dust. : )

prowlncat
prowlncat

I like the Buddhist attitude which is to thank people who irritate the fuq out of me for teaching me patience and tolerance, to be grateful to people who I perceive have betrayed me as an opportunity to become more emotionally resiliant etc etc. They have a point. It’s all well and good to say I’m a tolerant, kind lubbly dubbly person surrounded by only good friends and loved ones, but watch the medusa rear her head when I’m cheesed off. Although I admit at this point that I’m not very good at accepting my spiritual medicine. Actually I’m totally… Read more »

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

I remember one time I got very angry with my ex husband and said “I’m going to destroy you” lol….Think that was my Medusa conj. Aries Sun. Unfortuneately, (well, fortuneately really) nothing happened. He still lives…

Leonine Librarian
Leonine Librarian

My Virgo sis lives and breathes that saying of ‘living well is the best revenge’…she had a horrific childhood, and quite easily could be curled up in a ball in a corner rocking…

She constantly amazes me with her resilence and never say die attitude.

Aquarpio
Aquarpio

Funny as it sounds I totally agree that you can learn a lot from your enemies. I’d say the overarching theme has always been that I’ve learned to love myself more for the things that made them my enemies.

Leonine Librarian
Leonine Librarian

I see it learning to love myself more for the things that have divided me, as someone hitting my internal hell no switch so strongly that I look a bit deeper at why that switch got triggered…like a non HR 360 degree check of the soul.

unpredictable pisces
unpredictable pisces

YES to both of you good insight…

Upbeat Scorp
Upbeat Scorp

Never work for an older, single woman. They sooner or later get jealous that you have a life and a relationship , and try and make your working life hell.
And yes, I have a Leo moon, eep.

cheshire cap
cheshire cap

V Venusian, I think the avoiding conflict is so Cap but I’ll confront if I feel I have to, in my own quiet way. Don’t sweat the petty things and don’t pet the sweaty things, unless you really want to. 🙄

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Have seen so many things come out in the wash naturally. Cap Moon just bides her time and I’ve witnessed the “house of cards” falling on those whom designed their own destruction. So sad but we get what we deserve….The universe is fair…and balanced…

Like I’ve often felt…..”revenge is sweet (via the universe) and I didn’t have to lift a finger”….

cheshire cap
cheshire cap

yeah, but sometimes it works vice-versa with heaps of crap dumped on one’s life with the rewards coming later depending on how we’ve dealt with said crap.

Leonine Librarian
Leonine Librarian

crapshoot

V Venusian
V Venusian

I am Capricorn with Libra rising and can’t say that I have ever made an enemy. I am a bit too non-conflict for that. I am far from spinelesss but prefer to defer from fights by saying not much at all…but I get treated like I am the enemy by the Fat Contoller Ex. He was good for those times when I was just too polite ….. easiest example is I often get rammed by supermarket trolleys and applogise immediatley to the rammer, and generally am grunted at in reply, the Fat Controller could always be relied upon to react… Read more »

elyon808
elyon808

“If you stare for too long into the abyss, the abyss will stare into you.”

“If you fight with monsters take care, lest you becomes a monster yourself.”

Nietzsche

translation;- that if you *dwell* for too long on matters bad, boring or in any way negative, you will absorb those matters into you and start to be just like them.

My take;- by all means fight your enemies but be aware of the danger of emulating them … something i think America forgot when it fighting the ‘War on Terror’

fallen angel
fallen angel

I thought enemies were passe, non? Like the cold war. Or even the fact that surely somewhere somehow people are realizing that yelling jihad all the time is getting rather rote…or as they would say, so high school. I exaggerate. Certainly feelings of enmity exist, I was badly bullied in school by girls who had to do it pairs all the time, if one was missing the other one never bothered me, and that lack of integrity struck me. So what I’ve learned? The less psychic space I give them, the better. If they were not so much an enemy… Read more »

hitchhiker72
hitchhiker72

81 comments already! Wow!

Have been following your site for several weeks but haven’t been prompted to comment until today.

‘I learned the hard way that if you attempt to be nice/friendly/polite to low-rent people, they take it as a sign of utter craven weakness on your part & that seeing as they’re going to loathe you ANYWAY, you may as well disengage and get on with individuating, living well et al.’

Thanks for this. I’ve been discovering this for myself lately.

Looking forward to your solar eclipse reading.

Champagne Bearing Aquarian
Champagne Bearing Aquarian

I am more into the compassion thing these days – I used to be a very good hater, but then decided that it was too time and energy consuming. Am not beyond cutting enemies off and not giving them an opportunity to act against me again, something I incidentally find almost impossible to do when people I love have hurt me (intentionally or not.) I’m an Aqua who would really just love it if everyone could get down with the whole universal family thing (even if some people are a bit like the strange cousins you hope don’t turn up… Read more »

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

keep your friends close and your enemies even closer. Don’t know who said that but i like it. My best friend betrayed me about 10 years ago. I thought we were going to be friends for life. Boy was that experience a big wake-up call. It was definitely a turning point in terms of learning and setting my boundaries – HUGE. It took me years to finally “grok” the meaning of the word. Stupid me forgave my frenemy a short while after the betrayal and I made contact but she never returned my call. I thought if the friendship had… Read more »

em
em

pphhht of course you like it, you’re a scorpio! only you dysfunctional peeps would want your enemies close.

em
em

plus, your friend left it 8 years because that’s how long a scorpio takes to give up the vitriolic, toxic hatred of their grudges…

scorp issues anyone?

em
em

should add that i’m an aries. there are peeps i love that i’d be friends with if they didn’t have a stupid grudge against me regarding my fabulosity

em
em

&, guess what, 8 years wasn’t long enough!

jeez, are you are SCORP?

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

em, when you find out the true meaning of “keep your friends close and your enemies closer” and if you manage to put away YOUR vitriolic, toxic hatred towards a stranger on a blog, then please read my post again. You’ve got it all completely wrong. I DON”T hold grudges. It’s a waste of time and energy.

And yes i am a Scorpio. Thought that was evident in my name.

em
em

it was a rgetorical question – of course you’re a scorp, that’s why your friend should’ve left it longer to contact you in a friendly way.

the true meaning of ‘keep your friends close and your enemies closer’ is that it’s worth having horrible people who are out to get you close by sop you can see what they’re doing.

i think that is a dysfunctional attitude.

em
em

only scorps give a rats what their enemies are doing

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

No em, that is not the true meaning of the saying. You’ve just twisted it to fit YOUR dysfunctional attitude. The saying is about self-understanding and empathy. If one is able to step back from a situation and see one’s enemy as just another person, perhaps the enemy relationship would be eliminated altogether. The motivation to “keep one’s enemies closer” should be to gain an understanding of how that person became an enemy in the first place. And in doing so, one might gain a deeper understanding of oneself. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer so that we… Read more »

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

and another thing em, i don’t have any enemies. I was just expressing how that saying about enemies appealed to me. Nor did i label my friend an enemy. She was just a friend that betrayed me, a friend that held a grudge against ME. My friend hurt me but i did not wish for any revenge. Revenge is futile. I forgave her and moved on. You might want to be friends with people who hold a grudge against you but i don’t. I view every experience as a catalyst for growth. My ex friend was an Aquarius with moon… Read more »

fluid feline
fluid feline

Whoah em, do you have “issues”?!. What makes you call scorpalicious dysfunctional? I suggest you vent somewhere else, this is not the place to release your toxic sludge against scorp beauty just cause she’s a scorp. Go dance with you own dickheads and don’t be one here 👿

nat
nat

jeez, poor you em. 4 doses in 7 minutes of your “vitriolic, toxic hatred” of your grudges against the Sun sign of Scorpio. I can’t understand why those peeps just can’t get with your fabulosity. Perhaps you misread scorpalicious robot’s post – she said she fumes for a bit then moves on. ie. DOESN’T waste energy holding grudges. Instead of attacking others, why not just tell you own sad story about scorpios and let it stand on its own merits? I also like the saying keep your friends close and your enemies closer. I understand what it means. What are… Read more »

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

thanks for the support FF and Nat.
Woah, my first attack on this blog. Hilarious! 😆

unpredictable pisces
unpredictable pisces

we got your back scorpbot *hug* i think em been stung b4…

nat
nat

no worries love! you put in x

em
em

jeez i wondered later if anyone would comment on the hypocritical nature of that post! yep, fully, nat, that’s why i totally admit to my scorp issues, but that phrase, ‘keep your friends close and your enemies closer’, frickin pushed my buttons. How long was my toxic Scorp my enemy before i knew it? evil. i’m mega aries (sun, venus, mercury) virgo rising taurus moon. i bear grudges like nothing else, but i forgive, too. a friendly call after 8 years from someone who used to hate me, well i think that’d be a nice thing! i didn’t mean to… Read more »

em
em

am also flattered, scorpalicious robot, that you consider what i wrote an attack – maybe i’m learning, scorp-bot !!

Über Virgo
Über Virgo

I don’t see an apology in there anywhere, em love. It might endear you to the community here if you provided one. We all like a joke, but there’s no need to get personal.

em
em

Uber I did not get personal, you guys did, and i stand by what i said. Scorp-Bot does seem like a lovely Scorp. There are a lot of lovely scorps. I did NOT attack her, go back and read over it. I did not attack her as she accused me of doing, and I did not comment on anything other than her post. Didn’t speculate about her, nothing like that. I DID generalize about scorps being dysfunctional in how they can turn on people and hold grudges full-on. any honest scorp would’ve just laughed. if you’d like to generalize about… Read more »

Über Virgo
Über Virgo

em, I do believe you didn’t mean to attack anyone, it just didn’t come out that way. I have reread them and the statements came out as harsh and directed at one person. It’s always a risk of communicating in writing in short bursts. Emails are also notorious for being misinterpreted and the source of a lot of unnecessary trouble. And yes, it’s a blog, and perhaps in parts of cyberspace it’s customary not to be concerned with the way you choose your words, but I think you’ll find this blog is different in that there is a lot of… Read more »

Leonine Librarian
Leonine Librarian

apart from toxicity of friendships I’ve found that people I haven’t seen for eons find it very hard to deal with who I am now…it’s whomever I was way back then is embedded to the point that we just don’t connect now. I’ve had this happen a few times where I’ve tried to point out that I’m a very different person than I was at 17…or 25 or 33 that although I’m still on the surface warm and chatty there is more there…when repeatedly all they want to relate to is former me, I find it easy to not give… Read more »

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

thank you so much LL. You totally get where i’m coming from and i know exactly what you mean when you talk about people only able to relate to the former you. Lack of connection and energy draining toxicity – why would any sane person want to hold on to that? I’d rather have no friends than low-rent friends. It’s about self respect and has absolutely nothing to do with grudge holding. I guess it’s hard for people who bear grudges like nothing else to understand that it’s possible. I can only imagine what holding onto all that anger/bitterness does… Read more »

Leonine Librarian
Leonine Librarian

SR so glad you could understand what I was trying to say I mangled a bit of the above post…writing with a fever left words hanging…I’ve found since returning from my 2 weeks of cleaning/packing/purging with living on the floor ala helping children transit from one place to another…I’ve picked up most vile viruses in the petri dish which is Brisbane in winter time…so there is a point where my brain formulates an idea and then somehow I have to get my fingers to co-operate long enough for some coherence so again I’m glad it made some sense to you….… Read more »

cheshire cap
cheshire cap

LL you need REST!! I lose my voice if I’ve pushed my energy levels too far, then my body tells me to shut up and rest up. xox

Leonine Librarian
Leonine Librarian

Thanks Chesh, I have been sleeping and resting a lot.I’m actually not feeling too bad right now. The sinus is pretty close to clear, yesterday before losing the voice completely I whisper booked in for a deep tissue massage tomorrow(back is building up to hurting more than the sinus at the moment) and even the non-functioning throat isn’t really all that bad pain wise… just a lot of stuff I’d like to do for myself now that the girls are squared away.

Oh well at least it’s warm in bed.

Ms Motown
Ms Motown

Losing your voice is very, very significant, emotionally speaking. it means that you are swallowing your words. Words that you SHOULD be speaking, but for one reason or another you are reluctant to. Who should you be telling what? Is there someone you are sore at? Is there someone you would love to tell something, but can’t. Is your throat sore too? From choking on these words? If you really cannot speak these words, then write them down and do a ritual burning. You’ll find that your physical symptoms will start to abate. Sending metaphorical chicken soup x

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

LL, i can always make sense of what you say, even when you think it’s mangled. Never sounds mangled to me. I’ve never lost my voice but i do get a sore throat every now and then. It usually happens when i’ve suppressed something that needs to be said or lack of creative outlet. I’m sure you’ve done significant work on acceptance of change like you said but it could just be plain old simple exhaustion from all the cleaning and packing and sleeping on the floor!!! No need to ramp up anything. You need rest! Visualise a ball of… Read more »

Leonine Librarian
Leonine Librarian

Thanks Chesh, Ms Motown and Scorpbot. I think it probably is a little from column a and column b…physically wiped out and on reflection(afternoon nap) seeing and dealing with the girls Dad (the good the bad and the wtf) again over a series of days tends to drag some old stuff up…mostly in the way things have moved on thankgoodness (like offering him olives and having him just look at me puzzled and go you know I don’t like olives and I’m realising that no I’ve pretty much deleted your preferences long ago)but it’s stuff I don’t normally bother tapping… Read more »

Leonine Librarian
Leonine Librarian

oh and the sapphire light seems a goodie too SR thanks again.

Ram Tormented by Librans
Ram Tormented by Librans

DL (if I call you that, I will think you are a size of envelope!), I appreciate all your kind words. No, the dreams do not include cuckoos but I am definitely loopy – people dying, being killed etc. I have certainly been into the, ahem, physical activity – but to no avail, still quite bats.

I will be proud to call you David – I mean, my husband’s family insisted I use this name as one of my son’s three christian names. I’m just saddled with it, pet!

taurean with the HMBOTS
taurean with the HMBOTS

i’ve never met a David i haven’t liked.

David’s are very influential and important in my life.

Dave’s by contrast are absolutely hopeless. is it some numerology thing??

LMAO!!

i hate vividly and intensely for about 5 seconds wishing all evil on my enemies both real and imagined and then get over it and instantly forgive almost anybody (especially if they smile upon me), no grudges (or maybe just a slow learner, LOL!)

toro sun, kataka asc, virgo moon

cheshire cap
cheshire cap

T with the HMBOTS, I’ve always had excellent Davids in my life too but have know one or two dodgy Daves, one an unscrupulous womanising Leo

taurean with the HMBOTS
taurean with the HMBOTS

You always make me giggle Chesh!

my HMBOTS is an unscrupulous womanising Leo (bastard!) but i REFUSE to call him Dave! (underneath it all, i think he might be nice though i might well be delusional, it’s called the ‘benefit of the doubt’ LOL!)

xox rockstar libran publicist xox
xox rockstar libran publicist xox

I know I’m new around here & all…but wots HMBOTS?

taurean with the HMBOTS
taurean with the HMBOTS

you’re not new, you’re original!!

high maintenance bit on the side! i think it’s kinda, sorta, a gently poking fun put down, but i hate the mealy mouthed ‘friend’ , ‘lover’ is soooo ’80s, so what’s left?

FB is really not for polite company, let alone one’s work place and i think HMBOTS is the perfect description, suggested by my masseur, LOL!

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

high maintenance bit on the side

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

oops sorry T w HMBOTS. I didn’t see your response there.

xox rockstar libran publicist xox
xox rockstar libran publicist xox

that’s hilarious!!

Taura avec Hard Work on the (in)side – YOU crack me up…..
xox 😉 xox

taurean with the HMBOTS
taurean with the HMBOTS

PS: vis a vis enemies: schadenfreude can be soooooo fun though!

(and yes, childish but luscious and worth savouring!)

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

oooh, i love a bit of schadenfreude, especially when combined with a bit of karma biting behind 😆

cheshire cap
cheshire cap

Oh cripes, I’d forgotten HM is Leo 😳

taurean with the HMBOTS
taurean with the HMBOTS

it’s cool Chesh, nothing to do with me, LOL!

actually, i find leos rather endearing!

and please don’t apologise scorpbot, i’m flattered you remembered,

hasta la vista babes, i’m off to bed, would have been there hours ago if a backbends session hadn’t energised me overly. but then i’m rather good at bending over backwards in more than one sense (insert laughing icon here which she does not yet know how to do!)

Ram Tormented by Librans
Ram Tormented by Librans

My darling sister is a Taurean and she had the most appalling husband who treated her most cruelly for many years. To my aboslute amazement, she decided quite some time ago to stop hating him and just move on. As an Aries, I am bitterly hurt when someone hurts me – especially if it is a so-called friend. The irony is, my Libran Moon makes it impossible for me to actually tell that person I can’t stand them. I just cut contact. DavidL, you will find this interesting. My life has been haunted by Davids. First, my psychotic father –… Read more »

davidl
davidl

I’ve read somewhere that cuckoo dreams are really positive…can you hear the cuckoos or are you just sensing them ? 😕
Maybe you could call me DL or something so I don’t remind you of those other cruel Davids. 🙂
Ram, ‘bloody eclipses’ ? now Im thinking ‘nightmare on elm st’ , nervous and anxious ? there is a way that any true aries can alleviate those pre ecliptic nerves and anxiety….physical activity, could be fun? 😉

Über Virgo
Über Virgo

Pity about those Davids, but it’s still a great old testament name. And think David Bowie! Haaaaah.

What a shit that business partner of yours was. I remember a friend telling me that very stark truth that we are on our own, we can only rely on ourselves. He was nursing his partner who was dying of AIDS at the time. It’s true no one else can get us out of the shit BUT having said that, I thank goddess that I’ve had friends who’ve been there with support through the thickest of it.

Champagne Bearing Aquarian
Champagne Bearing Aquarian

Hey There! RTBL – how are you going? Staying strong and keeping the faith? Am so hearing you re: The Eclipse!

nat
nat

Dancing with Dickheads indeed! Good one Mystic. What have my enemies taught me? * if you are bright, hard working, positive, “successful”, attractive (and female), there are some miserable insecure types out there who WILL try to find a problem with you. But its THEIR problem. Don’t make it yours by engaging with them. Stand your ground of course, but smile & wave, pull the knives out of your back and carry on. If they are projecting their sh*te onto you, you will not be able to do anything about it so don’t waste your precious energy. Just be a… Read more »

Savannah
Savannah

They’ve taught me that there’s usually something I need to be learning from them. They aren’t always the one’s in the ‘wrong’. It gives me energy to dislike some of them though. I’ve also learnt not to take sh*t from them and stick up for myself.

I like to keep them in my sights, no surprises attacks that way. Enemies are usually frenemies.

Scorp Scorp
Scorp Scorp

Every now and then – fortunately only every five years or so – someone I thought perfectly harmless (without consciously underestimating them and their willpower) turns out to be a real backstabber. I used to panic and overreact, but I think facing them nicely yet icily is the best way to go. Usually it also has benefits such as motivating me through anger… Lately, as I’m happier with myself and presumably a little more confident, nothing seriously terrible has happened (relationships with maniac guilters as my ex-crab excluded). 😉

olyalya
olyalya

I’m yet to develop a placid attitude towards betrayal

little fish
little fish

Olyalya, I can’t talk about betrayal,…it’s so painful and psychoanalyst friend says the one thing peeps have great difficulty getting over, even if they are enormously generous. Forgiving is aboout forgiving yourself for being taken in, not prostrating oneself in apology for being naive.

nat
nat

agree w you little fish, betrayal is a biggy. Forgiveness of self is a powerful thing. Forgiveness of others can take a long time, maybe life times even?

olyalya
olyalya

Some of my worst “enemies” are X friends, because it hurts the most when someone really close bullies you. Or as they say their “true” nature never fails to come out.

Cancer sun, Scorp ascendant

nat
nat

olyalya, we have the same Sun & Rising. What is your Moon?
Happy Birthday btw!

matthew-minerva
matthew-minerva

MYSTIC OMG I FEEL OFF MY CHAIR WHEN I SAW DOLORES UBRIDGE AWAITING ME AS I SIGNED INTO UR SITE! OMG I LOVEEEEEEEEEEEE HARRY POTTER I PRE-BOOKED MY TICKETS FOR WEDNESDAY NIGHT 2 MONTHS AGO FOR IMAX 3D – OMG 2 SLEEPS YAYAYAYAYYA SHE IS AN EVIL LADY! – ONE OF MY TEACHERS IS EXACTLY LIKE HER 9cough my food teacher!) She hasnt made me cut into my own hand but she nearly made me put my hand over a naked flame – the bloody idiot! OMG YES SHE IS VERY RESERVED! BUT FIERCLY LOYAL! VERY SCOPIO! MY ENEMIES HAVE… Read more »

davidl
davidl

I agree Matthew, Delores is so detestable, maybe even more than Vold… (oops better not speak his evil name), old no nose…. every one knows a Delores Umbridge, she is so tangibly detestable. My wife and kids are huge HP fans.

matthew-minerva
matthew-minerva

LOL OLD NO NOSE! TRUE TRUE! 😀
No but i swear this lady also LOOKS like the actress! omg its scary! lol!
Your wife & Kids have good taste 😉
matt

davidl
davidl

Never really had any obvious enemies. One of the superstitions my mothers family have maintained is not to talk about your good fortune or happiness in front of people, any people, friends or acquaintances. This they say, is how you create enemies. Im sure you’ve all heard of the evil eye, well we were all given little eyes to wear to protect us from it. The idea of course is that by telling others your good fortune you become the target of the conscious or unconscious negative reactions of others.

fluid feline
fluid feline

Very wise women in your family david. Has taken me years to figure out some people are basically not nice for whatever reason. Had to learn that not everyone views life as i do, i.e. I can’t get the jealousy over other’s good fortune or happiness; or people like those little fish speaks of above, you know sweetness and light on the surface but underneath lots of scheming and nastiness going on. At least i’ve learned it in time to pass on to my kids.

unpredictable pisces
unpredictable pisces

yes – they want what you have , comes from a massive vacuum in their own lives/minds/hearts…easier for them to take someone down and stand (or lurk) in their place, rather than spend the time looking for their own pot of gold.

davidl
davidl

Yep, the tricky ones though are the unconscious negative energies that come back from people who you would least expect.

davidl
davidl

and they wouldn’t expect it either. the ‘enemy’ is being channelled by them but not of them.

unpredictable pisces
unpredictable pisces

hmm, hadn’t thought about the unconscious enemy!! aagh. I might have to start wearing again that little glass eye that an old family friend gave me! and keep quiet about positive things to certain people .. !

scorpion_tongue
scorpion_tongue

David-
it hurts when it comes from people you love or trust.

xox rockstar libran publicist xox
xox rockstar libran publicist xox

House Witchery for disconnecting energy from enemies – write their name on a piece of paper & freeze it in the freezer

another piece of freezer House Witchery is to put credit cards in a glass of water & freeze it……makes them slightly more inaccessible!!

Über Virgo
Über Virgo

Sticking thine enemy in a freezer can work too, or is that too mafiosi?

Pluto Transit Lounge
Pluto Transit Lounge

You can also microwave your frozen credit cards back to life ICE … in case of emergency …

xox rockstar libran publicist xox
xox rockstar libran publicist xox

PTL – back in the day I owned a microwave & that’s precisely what happened…….but one STILL had to think about it, this was pre e-bay, more heading to the mall spending…….

FYI Nuking in the Mike strips the magnetic strip!!
😉 xox

Stress Princess
Stress Princess

I just try my best to forget those pointless people and put any remnant/ photo/ souvenier in a box at the back of the cupboard. Concentrate on making oneself fabulous and successful. Success is the best way to say FUQ YOUSE to one’s enemies. They can’t get at you if you are floating above everything in a cloud of happiness/ career satisfaction/ financial or emotional bliss. But I do believe they teach you about yourself – I just choose to forget that I learnt anything off the enemy and refuse to give them any credit for it 😉 However, in… Read more »

Über Virgo
Über Virgo

What I learned came as a total shock: that people can hate you for doing the right thing/aspiring to excellence/achieving something of value. I never considered the culprits enemies until they succeeded in backstabbing me out of a livelihood/career at massive financial and other cost to me, and I was amazed that they didn’t lay off until they’d made sure I was brought undone. Whereas, these same people would laugh off other (male) colleagues when they literally ripped people off, abused other associates and were flagrantly unfaithful to their wives. The difference was that they saw me as a bona… Read more »

nat
nat

Sorry to hear about that Uber. That sort of professional white-anting is really weak and very, very stressful to deal with. A pox on them! Sounds like you came out of it with your integrity in tact and some new skills to boot.

Über Virgo
Über Virgo

yah, thanx for that nat. It was all done behind my back. No one ever confronted me to my face.

Nice tips, observations in your comments below BTW.

Thinking back on that time I decided to take a look at my astro from them. All within 2 degrees, Pluto sq Pluto, NNode sq Pluto, Saturn sq MC and Uranus opp Sun and Merc. And to think before that, I used to be a shy idealist. The whole thing brought out my Lilith + Moon in Aries which had been hiding.

Über Virgo
Über Virgo

that should read, astro from then. I don’t need any astro from ‘them’

unpredictable pisces
unpredictable pisces

always good to have an ace up your sleeve, uber….

amazing the lengths people go to, the sheer time and energy the spend f*cking with someone else so they can have a shot at what *they think* is the podium…. whether it’s business, prestige, female competition, alpha male-dom…honestly cbf with that sort of thing but there’s lot of people here w those experiences…interesting to hear how people have dealt / lessons.

Über Virgo
Über Virgo

I won’t ever need to use the ace tho, UP. These guys have compromised themselves so much they are now just empty shells. They did worse to themselves than I could ever do. Glad I cut my losses and made a clean break rather than fight them.

Lioness
Lioness

That is exactly how I feel about anyone who has ever “done me wrong”, they ALWAYS do more harm to themselves.

Leonine Librarian
Leonine Librarian

See this is where I’ve learnt/am still learning about boundaries. There is a part of me that is quite happy to let someone be hoist with their own petard….this is the long view though…and sometimes I’ve learnt that in the moment or soon after a boundary breech I need to assert, whatever needs asserting… I still prefer to be nice about it… but there is a steely edge to the niceness and underlying you really don’t want to fuq with me, it’s all sunshine and lollipops so far but ….I think the Scorp moon helps add extra weight to my… Read more »

little fish
little fish

LESSON #1: When someone shows obvious dislike and you don’t get it,and you’ve done all you can, walk away. No one likes to be ignored. It’s a quiet, personal revenge, and it’s ALL you CAN do. This one is for those sneaky nasties who are so very nice to other people and do the awful stuff when nobody’s watching. Eventually the smart others notice what’s going on. LESSON #2: Bullies hunt in packs (i.e. they are cowards) LESSON #3: Stand up for yourself if it is a PUBLIC abuse. At least they will respect you ( lesson learned LATER in… Read more »

Link
Link

er . . and so have taught me . . .

Link
Link

My ‘enemies’ have held up a mirror up to me and so I have taught me some of life’s more valuable lessons, such as humility, forbearance and restraint.

As for grudge bearers? IME, Cancerians. Especially the Cancer Dog.

Trixie
Trixie

Absolutely agree with the mirror thing. I’m in the unusual position of being a Scorp with no actual enemies, really must try harder, but someone once told me that those towards whom you feel an instant dislike are those who represent some (negative) facet of your personality. It has turned out to be true so far, if I really think about why I dont’ like someone.

xox rockstar libran publicist xox
xox rockstar libran publicist xox

dont have enemies to speak of, tho have rifts – & the single lesson unifying all experiences is shoulda thought more of myself in first place rather than ran / work / hang / play with them as it was destined to end in tears.

being Libran I drop the culprit cold (rather than confront / war / revenge) I am so loud when silent its deafening.

fluid feline
fluid feline

“the single lesson unifying all experiences is shoulda thought more of myself in first place”. Very very true. I could add listening to your inner wisdom or intuition. The worst friendship betrayal I experienced taught me this. The signs were all there whispering to me but I ignored it and paid a huge price. I too drop people cold, the silence is deafening type cut – (when at some times I’d have fantasies of pouring weed killer all over her garden, putting dog shit in her letterbox, punching her in the face). To act out makes it your karma, so… Read more »

xox rockstar libran publicist xox
xox rockstar libran publicist xox

feline – good observation on the Piceaness of icing irksome folk out – I have fish riser / bull moon
and similarly tho whilst cutting off, depending on the sitch, secretly seeth / obsess for ages or take way too long to disconnect.

Aries Ex flares at dissing, then smugly acts out until he feels vindicated & has suitably torn down part of enemy’s world

fluid feline
fluid feline

Yeah definitely do the seething for too long (mars/moon kataka). Next incarnation I wanna be a version of Aries/Scorp/Cap – just to kick butt.

scorpion_tongue
scorpion_tongue

Maybe a Piscean could it also be another water sign Scorp?
I’l give people 3 chances too many and then cut them off.
I think i wait too long and my resentment grows until i no longer can stand them.
Probably very healthy way of dealing.

scorpion_tongue
scorpion_tongue

I meant to say Probably NOT very healthy way of dealing. 🙂

postmodscorp
postmodscorp

Hehehe – The few peeps who have been my ‘enemies’ have been supremely fuqwitted. #1 – Girl at primary/high school – never found out WHY she disliked me, but suffered at her and her younger brothers hands from teasing/bullying, exclusion (whole class invited to birthday, except me), interestingly, in my early 20s I ran into the brother, and he apologised for his behaviour when we were at school – graciously gave my thanks, and have thought well of him since. #2 – a couple, who tried to slander my name in our small community….. nice tactic for 2 new comers… Read more »

Aqua Ramette
Aqua Ramette

There’s only one person I really dislike and I can safely say that she was totally irrelevant to me until she decided to pick a fight with me (complete with emails cc’ed to superiors at work making allegations about my misbehaviour and other ridiculously passive aggressive behaviour). I don’t normally bear grudges but she royally got up my nose. Anyway, to cut a long story short, she’s long gone, and I’m still here thriving (possibly part of the reason she disliked me so much, because we began at the same level and I was promoted first). If that little episode… Read more »

starstrokes
starstrokes

Actually, I think that makes me my own worst enemy/ sorry for the Scorp diss but I’m a Leo so its okay…

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

haha…. that’s funny starstrokes. It IS okay.
My sister’s a Leo – we’re like chalk and cheese. And Leo friendships don’t last with me. Sun and Pluto, not exactly comfortable bedfellows.

Leonine Librarian
Leonine Librarian

and yet with a mutual love of the bean I think we could probably get on as well as alternately social/anti social people can…

starstrokes
starstrokes

Erm, NOT to use peachblossom or other such lust conjuring tricks…!
This I learnt by misappropriating a Scorpio fella who had a seriously frostbitten heart!

cheshire cap
cheshire cap

I really don’t know if I have any enemies. I take people as I see them, sometimes with liquids. If I feel no connection or adverse interaction or inter-reaction I disconnect and stay cool. Life’s too short to play the approval game. I have delightful caring entertaining friends so I concentrate on them. After the experiences with supposed friends when hubbo died, I know these darlings are real.

cheshire cap
cheshire cap

actually, I lie. I do have one known enemy but after crap’s over, I forget it. The French bitch I used to work for. I know she only employed me for my connections then she tried to use my connections to enhance her imaginary social position and didn’t get it when people stayed distant. That sounds like an “up myself” statement but she’s sort of class conscious and I’m so not. My being there brought a whole new group of clients and increases sales. Last straw was when she came in as I was saying goodbye to a client and… Read more »

xox rockstar libran publicist xox
xox rockstar libran publicist xox

LMAO at ‘because she’s my fuqing cousin’ hehehe had sim experience with Gem Industry MegaEgo. Knew when he swung from Super Best Friend / 6 days wk hanging w another Industry heavy weight (his major advertiser) who later came to be known as ‘That C*** _ _’ (insert name). I became BFF, but warned that if I fuqed up (????) he’d disappear like a mole. the current status. I felt burned by him lap dogging me for my IP, connections & I guess riding coattails of my industry standing for his own self betterment. he’s overly concerned with image, connections,… Read more »

unpredictable pisces
unpredictable pisces

forewarned is forearmed! 🙂 i love being ready for round 2 with someone you now have completely sussed…

xox rockstar libran publicist xox
xox rockstar libran publicist xox

yep UP so do I!!

if it was personal friend would drop but professional links are not so easy to dodge…..& am overdue for my next genius idea, hence the inevitability he’ll come a knocking….& it will be soon!!

davidl
davidl

throw back the little ones, and pan fry the big ones, use tact, poise, and reason, and gently squeeze them…Steely Dan, I love Donald.

cheshire cap
cheshire cap

I’m not telling which sign French bitch is because she’s the woooorrrrst example of her sign and then everyone can maintain dignity.

fluid feline
fluid feline

Ooh come on chesh, please do tell, surely no one would take it personally. Why not, is she a cap??
🙂

cheshire cap
cheshire cap

nopey she’s not a Cap 😆

davidl
davidl

dignity? since when ? spill baby x

unpredictable pisces
unpredictable pisces

lol i bet pisces

cheshire cap
cheshire cap

not Piscean but she has since seriously ruffled the long legged Piscean who maintained a distant connection with the F bitch because she sells seriously beautiful clobber…..only part I miss……well that and buying trips

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

i was thinking Scorpio? Only because it’s the stereotypical baddie

Leonine Librarian
Leonine Librarian

I vote low leo

xox rockstar libran publicist xox
xox rockstar libran publicist xox

Chesh it has echos of the Gem Industry Mega Ego – he dumped me cos of some perceived “class” thing from his end.
has set of rules for him & another for others.

Low Gem for sure!!

cheshire cap
cheshire cap

before F bitch opened the boutique she was trying to find work and ponced into the practice owned by my brother and sister-in-law and haughtily demanded to speak to one of the Doctors treating s-in-l like a servant. My sister-in-law was behind the reception desk so politely asked why. F said I want to give her my resume as I’d like to work here. S-in-l said she’s very busy and that she’d see that she saw it. I knew nothing of this encounter till S-in-law came to boutique to meet me for lunch and I wondered why F looked sick… Read more »

cheshire cap
cheshire cap

funny thing….ran into her when out to dinner with alpha tauri and he asked who the over dressed dragon was because he noticed she was watching my every move.

fluid feline
fluid feline

ok CC – would she be a LEO by any chance. Low Leo would so treat people like servants, be demanding and overdress like a dragon 😆

cheshire cap
cheshire cap

yep 😳 but absolutely the most base Leo I’ve ever met. I have other delightful Leo friends and my mother was Leo so I wrongly thought that she’d be like them.

fluid feline
fluid feline

Aww don’t blush CC, have met a few of those myself. They give Leo’s a bad name.

Leonine Librarian
Leonine Librarian

Voted 1 for low leo above…sorry you had to experience that level of negativity Chesh…maybe this says something not great about me but when I see low leo traits it’s usually sooo appalling and just omg they did what? that it’s all a bit funny…in a social train wreck sort of way.

cheshire cap
cheshire cap

LL my other Leos are lovely and I have three I’m very close to. I think with her it’s a combination of age crisis, plus bad attitude. She left her long suffering Italian husband thinking she could do better and that all the males in a fifty mile radius wanted her body but found out that no one was buying. It was embarrassing to watch a fifty year old bat her eyelashes at any bloke and watch their body language but she didn’t seem to realise the effect she was having. She really thought she could conquer the world and… Read more »

xox rockstar libran publicist xox
xox rockstar libran publicist xox

age & social origins aside – ‘climbers’ & wannabes make my skin crawl…..they say shit like ‘whatever’ to fill the gap in what should otherwise be an intelligent statement / comment – sadly lacking class, nous & grace to do otherwise!!
LOL at alpha tauri’s observe above
xox 😉 xox

Über Virgo
Über Virgo

Bastards can be of any sign, just the specifics of lowness change.

year of the fox
year of the fox

I think this was in the art of war or some other such book but “The enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend” and don’t fight a 2 front war. Basically most of these are about “confining” enemies (so they don’t work together)…you know in case you can’t win over or change your enemy in some way. And yeah as a Libra i feel bad for most of my enemies. I often try to help them in some way but they don’t like it. I often find if i dislike someone it’s because they on some level remind… Read more »

Triple Cancer Chick
Triple Cancer Chick

YotF – I totally agree with your last comment. This is probably the best lesson i’ve learnt when dealing with people who push my buttons.. I have found that nearly everytime if I get a bad reaction to someone I’ll find the thing i dislike about the most will be a weakness of mine too….

hazelblackberry
hazelblackberry

Sagg here. I dunno. I guess what any ‘enemy’ has ever taight me is the importance of just getting on with your life as best you know how, because you’ll never ever please everyone and someone will always dislike you or your efforts for the most trivial or irrational reasons, the same as you do. I also find as I get older that while I there may be people who consider me an enemy, I really don’t consider anyone else an enemy. It really is a case of realising that most people are doing the best they can with what… Read more »

unpredictable pisces
unpredictable pisces

i know i will think of more, but one thing i have learnt is that you can trust someone..to be themselves. however good, sweet, vile or conniving that may be.