Full Moon In Saggo…

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Couple in bucolic pasture artWilliam Holman Hunt

“Having promised one another distance, hunting, and home, don’t lovers always cross each others boundaries?”

Rainer Maria Rilke – Saggo Poet

Happy Full Moon in Sagittarius & note the cosmic weather report; MASSIVE cold fronts and/or flash-storms relating to SPACE, DISTANCE, LIBERATION, EMANCIPATION & AUTONOMY ISSUES.  For best results in any circumstances, give and take masses of space. Don’t nark off. Emancipate thyself.

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little fish
little fish

Just read a fabulous novel (in 2 hrs…couldn’t put it down)

The Other Side of You ..by Salley Vickers.

A window to all relationships. Starts rather slowly but gets faster, with humour and wisdom. Dream bits are interesting.

sea sagg
sea sagg

fallen angel, thanks for the link to that article way back in these comments, and also for what you said.

fallen angel
fallen angel

How are you sea sagg? I’m glad you found some value in it..

fishgirl
fishgirl

Yeah. I guess i needed to know – stuff. It was just like having all the frightening and meaningful archetypes of your entire past in one room – no wonder we all drank so much…I kind of think we should all get medals for going… Braving the demons and stuff…? Still feel pretty terrible though. Especially about that blind monkey in my dream…

Ãœber Virgo
Ãœber Virgo

Cheshire Cap, interp please? I have a reunion later this year. 25 years. I don’t really want to go, but my Leo bestie is right into it. Maybe it’s my Sagg rising. She has a memory like an elephant, (Virgo moon?) but I don’t remember much except that I couldn’t wait to grow up, move on and travel. Then again, I was badly humiliated by the school jock/thug who later died in a car crash. Anything worth salvaging from that time, I already have, as in a handful of still very close friends. Anyway, the baby monkey maybe the younger… Read more »

fishgirl
fishgirl

Gosh that’s amazing. Vibes very true. Thank you UV, I knew some kind soul would give some interplanetary soul-ace on this forum. Poor little baby monkey. I love monkeys, this one was so ugly and damaged. I think – the reunion really stirred up for me how time can ravage us but we are always the same deep down that we were at 16, or 15, or when we were at school. People there had cancer, or had success, or were much kinder than they used to be. But ultimately, the same – the bullies still had sociopathic tendencies and… Read more »

xox rockstar libran publicist xox
xox rockstar libran publicist xox

Ubers my Sag bestie remembers every detail of our Design School by day / Door Bitching by night life……& I dont. To the point where where seriously gained Neurotic notions that the many years dedicated to the green weed had zero’d brain cells. that & a few other things……..

Leonine Librarian
Leonine Librarian

without thinking it through deeply, when you rementioned the blind monkey…all I could think of is that expression, monkey see monkey do…so if the monkey doesn’t see?

cheshire cap
cheshire cap

I’m thinking more along the lines of the three wise monkeys and ‘see no evil’ Fishgirl felt responsible for the ‘baby’ monkey that had landed in a messy celebration food. It’s almost as if she was comfortable with the monkey until she realised it couldn’t see or hadn’t seen something then she gently placed it in a safe place beside or away from ’emotion’ Sorry, best I can do…I’m tired

fishgirl
fishgirl

I think i got it – you stirred something and it just came to me. I can’t handle any more ‘broken’ or ‘sick’ things. I had to take it back to its own family. There was a lot of talk of cancer at the reunion – many people have died from it or have it. I felt a bit overwhelmed by feeling for all of them and still half seeing them as little kids. They were all landing in my ‘party dip’ begging for a cuddle!

fishgirl
fishgirl

Okay Full moon conjunct Neptune in the 7th house – tick. Harrowing, traumatic, insane, fun, crazy reunion in small country town – tick (and they didn’t run out of eggs..). Stranger from afar turning out to be very different to what was expected – tick – in a horrendously disappointing way… Truths outed about an old flame and a secret from 17 years ago – tick. Woke with wet clothes, black feet, empty wallet and no phone and my bracelet in my hair. You don’t want to know… Anyway safely made it back ‘home’ late last night, and was afraid… Read more »

Ãœber Virgo
Ãœber Virgo

What a weekend fishgirl. Are you glad you went to the reunion?

cheshire cap
cheshire cap

fishgirl, I’m not even trying to interp your dream without lots of think-time….maybe the blind monkey was partial to cucumbers *gallic shrug*

LeoGroover
LeoGroover

Can anyone suggest good music to go along with this full moon? Nothing spooky more saggo.

fallen angel
fallen angel

Born Free?

Wild Boys by Duran Duran?

The Talking Head’s On The Road to Nowhere?

matthew-minerva
matthew-minerva

I LOVE IT! YES IT SOOOO SHOWS THE SAGGO IDEAL AND ALL! speaking of Saggo’s, i went to the MindBody,Spirit festival yesterday – and got an astrological, clairevoient and angle reading from a lovely psychic she was amazing – she explained everything with me and went well over the 25mins i payed for! The first thing she said to me was – its funny that you come to me, as i too am i saggo, you’ve got a fantastic sense of intuition! and im like OMG! 😐 🙂 😀 (IN THAT ORDER) THE FULL MOON IN SAGGO! YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAY LOVE U… Read more »

Taurean Love Expert
Taurean Love Expert

Oh my goddess, my Leo lover is being a *complete* jerk today. I am giving him full-moon-benefit-of- the doubt… through gritted teeth.

fallen angel
fallen angel

Bluelib, an EXCELLENT FS Master/Mistress would be compassionate enough to see that the reason you NEED FS is obviously due to the state of chaos in your life. I had mine done for the last 2 years and I tell you, it has made a complete difference. I get that the Pisces Firey is heart sore and he’s going to protect it no matter what… but isn’t that rather futile? We need to BE with someone, the right someone of course. But yes, you can’t convince him, nor should you. I think it’s really hard being there with him around… Read more »

bluelibra
bluelibra

Thank you MM re Feng Shui – my house is an absolute chaotic bundle of things to do.. a Feng Shui consultant would probably faint against the avalanche of crap piled everywhere despite my efforts to purge and purge and purge. I have a Cappy daughter on the cusp of teenagehood who hoards everything – her room is positively feral. Pisces firey had his heart broken by the mother of his only child so thats it as far as he’s concerned – never again will he commit – which I’ve learnt to accept despite my yearnings. I tried moving on… Read more »

unpredictable pisces
unpredictable pisces

lucky TA, i’m glad the bub gave mum a sleep in!

yes i noticed my (main) dream last night was about the ex-ish Toro, still up to his same old behaviour where i came second, third, fourth to his mates, yet again. 🙁 basically echoing the real life vibe really, which is unusual for me.

fallen angel
fallen angel

Babes, OMG, my dream was super super sexual… so I won’t go into details but in essence I was with this other person and Le Scorp was there, and he was trying to get himself prepped but couldn’t quite get the equipment sorted..so the other person and I started ahead, and I woke up really feeling like this kind of thing was just normal for me (it isn’t).

And prior that I did have a few nightmares… certainly the Full Moon is reaching me.

Ãœber Virgo
Ãœber Virgo

I think this is a moving on dream FA. If Le Scorp can’t get it together to give you what you want or need (sex being only one part of that) you will get on with it elsewhere. It might not be normal for you to do the multi partner thing in waking life, but it’s normal and healthy to recognize when something isn’t working and try alternatives. BTW In the dream, Le Scorp may be playing himself or a redundant part of your animus.

fallen angel
fallen angel

Thanks Uber! Yes, the funny part is he kept on wrangling with “adjustments”, but in the dream, we were with this other person because it was arranged, except for some reason I was the one really benefiting from it!

Hmm. I am going deep into transformative mode and have been feeling almost plagued by dreams lately. All I know is there is mass healing going on, and even he has been changing. It feels a dangerous and frightening time, yet I am resolved to face it.

Messages from the soul…

cheshire cap
cheshire cap

FA, as all aspects in dream time are you, The dream could represent you seeing leScorp in a new way, sort of he’s turning into someone else, changing, someone to be explored and experienced, and the old one isn’t functioning for you any more. This could explain the feeling of normalcy.

Ãœber Virgo
Ãœber Virgo

I AM biased against the Scorp and it probably colours my interpretation a little too much. I really like your interp CC, and glad to hear that you feel some healing happening FA. For what it’s worth, I think you’ve been hurt, but not damaged and that’s a credit to you.

cheshire cap
cheshire cap

Übey, Personally I think the Scorp has behaved like a twat but FA’s dream feeling was that it was normal and it’s the only way I could see it.

fallen angel
fallen angel

Oh I love you guys! The twat comment had me rolling, darlings.. haha..thanks for both dream interps, really useful and relevant. Uber, yes, it’s been a long way crawling upwards so the damage assessment is appreciated. It is peaks and valleys to be honest but more importantly, I feel now more than ever, an almost unstoppable change. And for that reason I am thankful, because I would rather swallow this experience however pain stricken and make it truly mine. It has been hard not to be embittered but I think because I SO do not wish to be, I have… Read more »

taurean alchemist
taurean alchemist

my dreams were profound too, although I do sleep with a palm-sized amethyst heart under my pillow. I often wake up clutching it to my chest though.

This week, two nightmares. Obviously I’m going through some BIG changes, even though I continue in denial of any input from Uranus/MC, Uranus opp Jupiter, and Uranus/North Node.

But I slept well with the full moon, and the baby let me lie in until nine – bliss! (first sleep-in for a looooong time).

xox rockstar libran publicist xox
xox rockstar libran publicist xox

TA – if I sleep with Crystals I wake up holding them……not that I know much about them other than holding them is soothing.

YAY re sleep in.

fallen angel
fallen angel

Hmm. Yes, I see what the astro is on about..but speaking of boundaries, I confess a part of me was always a bit suspicious in what I felt was an over-emphasis on them… don’t get me wrong, boundaries are necessary, absolutely. Yet, it seems that when relationships hit rocky waters, and the boat is sullying to and fro, that inevitably the undercurrent of power, that tug of who crossed what line would become THE default go-to area of suspicion. Probably rightly so in many situations… but I had always thought that there was nothing wrong with needing someone. After all,… Read more »

prowlncat
prowlncat

I’m with you FA that pop psyche has a lot to answer for. Its fairy floss offspring – self help books with big loud titles (10 Was To Fix Him In 10 Minutes!) and ugly graphics, seem more about making profit from a gullible public that is too tired or too out of synch with their own intuition to see it for the crap that it is. Most of the ideas are lifted out of context from more complex and well researched therapeutic publications and data, thus completely losing the point of the original research. Dumbed down is the phrase… Read more »

cheshire cap
cheshire cap

If a relationship is working and strong, boundaries become blurred. I think the element that seems to be missing in some modern relationships is kindness. My mother taught me to remember to be kind in all situations, it can make so much difference.

Lao-Tse:

Kindness in words creates confidence.
Kindness in thinking creates profundity.
Kindness in giving creates love.

fallen angel
fallen angel

Well said prowln! Exactly! But I do resent the idea being sold that boundaries are about turf, when really it is a commitment to authenticity both to yourself and to the relationship – and as such would have the flexibility and the strength to keep pace with one’s changing individuality.

It’s really thoughtfulness about where one is, and yes, as Chesire points out, definitely kindness.

taurean alchemist
taurean alchemist

beautiful advice Chesh, you’re mother was a wise woman…. its takes practice to be kind always, ego thwarted likes to be very UNkind, to both self and others… and it so often happens in relationships that ego gets a lot of opportunities to be so.

prowlncat
prowlncat

Yes definitely re kindness. Should be taught from pre-school! I’m also nostalgic for a return to more chivalry and less of the “shake that ass” attitude towards – well basically everyone! But that could just be my Cancer Venus getting into the Toro vibe.

This full moon has felt very jangly and discordant, maybe cause my natal moon is in Sag. Not liking the restlessness much ….

Link
Link

That full moon felt much more like a new moon to me. I’m kinda glad its over and done with as it had me tossing and turning for a few nights while it waxed up. I woke this morning very early, to see it a little over its fulsomeness but grand as ever before it slunk off behind the (ever-present lately) clouds.

btw I have a new blog. I gave wordpress a shot, but must conclude that blogger is better, faster and less restrictive.

Ram Tormented by Librans
Ram Tormented by Librans

My dream was totally nutty last night. Could have had something to do with my Libran mother coming back into my space this week and also the Sagg full moon (my partner is a Sagg). I always wanted to be a doctor but Libran father vetoed it. My dream was that I was a medical student and that a fellow student found me v. attractive. I was completely unaware of his feelings and very surprised. Funny really because at present in my real life, I feel v. unattractive. Can’t work this one out. Mystic, you know that long time Venus… Read more »

cheshire cap
cheshire cap

could be that you feel unattractive because you were thwarted in fulfilling your dream. The medical student and you are two halves of the same person as in yourself, and deep down you think you would be attractive only by fulfilling your dream……or you feel unattractive because you couldn’t fulfill the dream……something missing…..sort of……your dream could be telling you the reason for present feeling and it comes as a surprise. Your mother coming back into your space could have re-awakened some past yearning

Ram Tormented by Librans
Ram Tormented by Librans

Thank you Cheshire Cap – you are most kind to give me your thoughts. I find all things Libran confusing and with both parents the most unbalanced ‘scales’ I have ever encountered – it is a challenge. I wil meditate on me and the other student as being my two halves and see if anything clicks. Deepest thanks, Ramzie.

unpredictable pisces
unpredictable pisces

tormented ram, although it’s odd that parents veto perfectly respectable careers for their children, seems like you are now old enough to change that anyway? never say never, if that’s your calling. it’s never too late to be fulfilled and happy.

cheshire cap
cheshire cap

Matt..your dream is good. The three of hearts or cups means “two forces of love meeting to create a third” and normally means a birth of some sort, not necessarily a baby but a new concept, lifestyle or plan….and the seven of clubs or wands means success but only after you’ve put in the required hard work. The microphone dream sound like you feel you have a voice and something to say but are frustrated because you have nowhere to say it and no one to say it to. You often speak of your grandmother and seem to heart-relate to… Read more »

Ãœber Virgo
Ãœber Virgo

Sorry, I screwed up with clubs suit. I knew some wise sage around here would know. The interps seem to fit with the stage of life Matt is at, starting to think about career etc. And heck, he has a 10th house Sagg stellium, so career has potential to be very strong. Go Matt! I don’t think you’ll be without a voice for long.

Matthew Minerva
Matthew Minerva

THATS ALRIGHT UBER!
yes yes ive got Sagg Stellium – the psychic mentioned that too!
hahaha
well im loud enough in real life i dont think i’d need a microphone even if i had one!
Matt

Matthew Minerva
Matthew Minerva

Cheshire Cap! your interp was amazing i was like OMG OMG OMG CORRECT OMG
AND THEN “You often speak of your grandmother and seem to heart-relate to her. With the return to small child and feeling at peace, my guess is that you are starting over in some way with a new life path that you feel will please her and thus yourself.” i LOVE THIS! yes yes she was very close to me
ur all soooo spot on!
hehehe

fluid feline
fluid feline

You’re very good at dream interpretation Chesh, can I get you to interpret mine sometime? I’ve been having movie marathon dreaming of late, possibly the trans aqua trio in my 12th house.

matthew-minerva
matthew-minerva

hey everyone –
mystic a question — everyone can aswer if they wish 🙂 –
does the full moon intensify dreams and their meanings??? — i read somewhere that they do to some extent and last Night OMG i cant tell you guys the how freaky it was.
i just checked and i have the full moon sextile to neptune at -0°02s, omg like soo freaky! would you guys like me to tell you??
matt

bluelibra
bluelibra

Hello Fallen Angel, the Pisces firey and I are friends ‘friends’ friends yet whenever we get within three metres / glasses of wine of each other the ‘friendship’ gets very physical indeed which then freaks the Pisces out to the point where he tries to put up walls / control when we see each other etc etc. Its all very tedious but my hearts just not into the gregarious gemini much as I know how compatible, beneficial, healthy it would be theoretically whenever I spend time with him (Gemini) I’m left exhausted, tetchy and very very imbalanced…… Mystic knows all… Read more »

fallen angel
fallen angel

So…if I may be so bold, has this gone physical to fruition?? Or simply mind-blowing sexual tension rivaling the tautness of a highly strung violin?? Hmm. I see wot you mean. Flashback, circa 1982 this Gem Boy, my first love interest ever, with amber eyes and chiseled features zones in on me like I am the last piece of bison and he a caveman, he pursues, and pursues, and pursues… sweetly. Lots of holding hands, furtive sneaking about, wot did I know?? Turns out he ALREADY had a GF (yes, the Bigamy Echos stretches that far), we are literally 3… Read more »

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Doing the emancipation thing Mystic as Friday had followed through with going to the Gaming Commission, filling out forms, getting thumb printed, pix taken in order to ban myself from the casinos over here. Haven’t been in over a week as it is and I don’t miss it at all. Told the lady taking my pix “I feel like a fugitive”…She said “it’s a good thing”. LOL….But she meant it in the context of doing what was best for me… Now, today, am drinking de-tox tea and no more cab for quite some time. Maybe a glass at my daughter’s… Read more »

Ãœber Virgo
Ãœber Virgo

Arguably, the only businesses with better cash flow than casinos are brothels and drug cartels. No matter how many big wins gamblers have, casinos always come out on top.

Good luck Sweets and good health!

taurean alchemist
taurean alchemist

Sweetpea I just LOVE that you’re taking such good care of yourself this way… here’s a lovely cup of licorice root tea to help with that detox (and for your base chakra)… & a hug, pure and simple (ha, I typed puer!)

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Thanks all, very sweet. Must try that licorice root tea. Will to go health food store this week…

bluelibra
bluelibra

Now onto Linda Ronstadt – Simple Man Simple Dream. Says it all really. And ‘hi’ Fallen Angel.

xox rockstar libran publicist xox
xox rockstar libran publicist xox

try Simple Minds – New Golden Dream…..?
speaking of dreaming……………..

fallen angel
fallen angel

Hello, Blue Lib! Take heart my sister, if it is the truth for you to let this one go then the space you have created is one with fullness. After all you’re doing the right thing if this is truly where you are, no?

And what stops you from the Pisces Firey may I ask? Has he gone off orbit?

unpredictable pisces
unpredictable pisces

blue lib, if hes a pisces there’s never a line drawn under anything, if you really regret knocking him back, can you perhaps use your lovely libran charm/ wiles to try again?

bluelibra
bluelibra

hhmmm well here I am currently writing an email to my gemini ‘boyfriend’ (baby of the family, with three elder doting sisters) -sweet-as-pie-wants-my-attention-and-energy-24-7-to-his family, kids, work, mates, gregarious philosophical queries at 4 AM etc- saying maybe, just maybe, definetley maybe (yes, this may mean that I NEVER have a man in my romantic life again – the equivalent of stepping into the vortex for moi) that I’m NOT exactly the right woman, mother, nurterer, sister, lover, healer, chef, cleaner, etc etc, for him, whilst listening to the guitar manipulations and angelic harmonies of Iva Davies: LOVE IN MOTION by Icehouse… Read more »

nico
nico

prowlincat, I second your comment about boundaries. It seems to me that the thing about them, whether they be physical, symbolic, blah blah, is that we actually need them to work out who we are, and thus who you/them are. Without being able to distinguish differences between people, relating in anyway becomes problematic/bland/impossible. The other post is a perfect example of boundary work in action, we are like this, you are like that. If you want to cross our boundary then you need to be a certain way. So i think boundaries come into play all the time. Not just… Read more »

taurean alchemist
taurean alchemist

interesting theme to ponder as the full moon happens in my seventh house, exactly conjunct my natal mars…

leonie, I’m gonna have that tune stuck in my head all nite now! 😀

matthew-minerva
matthew-minerva

yes i understand TA! ive got the full moon transit in my 10th house again!- and ive double and tripple checked this TA so dont worry i should be correct – conjunct natal sun, moon, mercury, pluto & jupiter, squared natal saturn & AC, sextile Natal Uranus & Neptune and finally quincunx to natal chiron the psychic said i had a hell of a lot of stuff going on in my 10th house -good stuff btw – and the whole mars squared jupiter thing (natal) will draw me to humanitarian law – WHICH IS SOOO TRUE … IM THE HEAD… Read more »

unpredictable pisces
unpredictable pisces

power to the people. good work matt

LeoGroover
LeoGroover

Space is the word- and saggo space is the real thing. its not a\have your freedom but I wanna know what you’re up type space ( ala Leo ex) but real unconditional freedom. Hail all saggo’s us ‘unsure how to do it freedom seekers’ salute you and we can learn a lot from your spaciness.

unpredictable pisces
unpredictable pisces

I just wanted to say hi and wow, what a response in that other post. I second third and fourth all of the supportive commetns of course.

Also for this post, there’s nothing to keep distance and space like staying at home and getting thru the to do list, and distraction from narking by fun activity. Have a great Monday all you kids out there. xox

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