Vocational Voodoo – The Midheaven In Astrology

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What does the Midheaven In Astrology mean?

The Midheaven is the cusp of the 10th house, aka the Brilliant Career sector. You can see it at the top of any chart with the words MC. It is short for “Medium Coeli” aka “middle of the sky.”  (If you know the time of your birth, you can get one of my Astral DNA Birth Charts for both the placement and my thoughts on your particular Midheaven).

The sign on the Midheaven influences and reflects your career persona. It is how you are likely to be seen in the public eye and can provide valuable clues as to your optimal vocation. Here is an example:

Scorpio Midheaven

When Scorpio is the Midheaven, the career can be one long, non-stop Phoenix stunt. They’re always in birth-death-rebirth mode and they like it that way. Vocational N.D.E.s are their specialty; they are how they thrive and stay fresh. Whatever line of work they are in, their business model embodies Anti-Fragility. They don’t just demonstrate resilience when dealing with adversity or competition, they benefit from it. No matter what their public image factor – visible or behind the scenes – there will always be a mystery around them or how they make their living. Scorpio mid-heaven people do not take their work or vocational vibe casually; it’s a relationship to them and a passionate one at that.

From Astral DNA 

The Scorpio Midheaven Embodies Anti-Fragility

Working with and understanding your Midheaven energies is like Vocational Voodoo. It’s not that you slavishly strive to embody the sign of the Midheaven. Think more along the lines of integration. If you have a Leo Midheaven, why try to transmit behind-the-scenesy meekness? No way! Hog that stage!

Another example: If you have a Gemini Midheaven, the sign ruled by Mercury, you’re good at Scribe Vibe. Whatever you do, writing and media play a massive part in it. It’s going to be an innate gift of yours.

The sign of your Midheaven sets the scene for your vocational vibe. Any planets in the 10th House are like characters. If you have Mars there, for example, rivals and competition energize you. Neptune? The Shamanic Planet here is a fantastic aid to any creative career. Neptune is the Ultimate Muse. It lends itself to a mysterious public presence.

Neptune Is The Ultimate Muse

What about when a planet comes along and connects with this vital point in your birth energies? Transits to the Midheaven resonate like mad, b.t.w. They often coincide with periods of peak achievement, more ambitious Goal-Stalking or sudden shifts of career focus.

For fun and to aid further self-understanding, figure out the sign/any planets in the 10th and ponder the scenario. Imagine it like a little narrative.

For example, Mars in Saggo/Saggo Midheaven wouldn’t want to be indoors or beholden to anyone. This is someone who would go bonkers if trying to follow – say – the parental path into a profession. You could see this character crafting a career that involved wilderness, traveling around teaching martial arts or politics.

Other possibilities: being a professional zealot, idealist, horse trainer, surfer, Nomad-Social Influencer. They would prioritize freedom over security. And cool to analyze.

On a shallow level, just consciously trying to ‘do’ your Midheaven sign when it comes to significant career matters, seems to work well.

Top Tip: Using a symbol or totem of your Midheaven Sign in your business branding or as a work talisman.

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ScorpioRising
ScorpioRising

I have Pluto Rx conjunct MC in Virgo. Part of a grand trine: Moon 6th H. Taurus, Saturn 2nd H. Cap.

Thoughts?

cuspbaby
cuspbaby

Ok I’m a bit late to the party, but MC and 10th house have always intrigued me: my combo is Scorp MC, then (deep breath…) Sun, Mars, Mercury, Neptune (each conjunct to the one preceding) ALL in 10th house in Sagg!! Plus Moon in Sagg right next door in 11th house (conjunct to Neptune). It’s a planetary congo line, they’re all squeezed in together. Am I a freak? What does this mean?

postmodscorp
postmodscorp

Capricorn mc….. Its all about the slog? Which is ironic seeing as since I was made redundant I haven’t worked…. into week 4 now…. Really want to go back to the 9-5. I love the 9-5, I love the structure it brings, the order I create (Jupiter, Saturn, Mean Node, True Node all in virgo). BUT I do want to work somewhere where my role/actions/job makes a difference and i can contribute to society in a benific way….. sigh

Lesly
Lesly

I’m a double-virgo with a gemini midheaven. I’m not sure how I feel about this and I don’t even know what it means yet. Oh, dear.

scorpy lizzy
scorpy lizzy

Oh yeh and I married young, raised 5 sons, walked outta the whole deal at 42 and now at 45 goin to uni and have a life of my very own.

scorpy lizzy
scorpy lizzy

Leo MC wth no planets, Mars, Venus, Merc in first, Sagg asc., Sun & Lilith in 12th with Neptune, Moon in cap in 2nd, Saturn in aqua in 4th. Wotta time of it I’ve had…

Virgo Rising
Virgo Rising

Gemini MC no other planets there, mercury in aries in the eight, sun in taurus in the 9th, jupiter conjunct neptune in the third, under a scorp cusp. Lawyer, till a few years ago, before i came across with astrology (NN aquarius, venus opp aquarius, lots of aqua really…) i used to lve the law and politics, then i started to be a speach writer to some politics, then i found the enourmous pleasure that i had in writting (in my language believe me i can write much better…). Then felt in love with astrology and know it seems that… Read more »

Blossom
Blossom

We’re almost twins Virgo Rising. Same but with Jupiter square neptune in scorp, and mercury just about direct. I fell out of love with my first career after less than 10 years in practice. Was actually doing more hours on voluntary work, as well as renovating my house and pursuing an active social life. As you say, scattered energies. Never been able to be single minded about anything. Now work part time because I cannot cope with the stress of full time work and the limitations it places on all my other activities. Resigned myself to the fact that I… Read more »

unprecictable pisces
unprecictable pisces

they share a brain..or a mind. no thinking for themselves. there’s like a central think-machine…is that right?

prowlncat
prowlncat

a Queen … but yes the “assimilation” process removes individuation

pegasus
pegasus

Prowling Cat…what’s a Borg?

prowlncat
prowlncat

sorry Pegasus … I’m a bit of a sci fi nut and it was a bit of a trekky (Star Trek) injoke. Borgs are a collective of emotionless, cybernetic beings that roam the galaxy assimilating civilisations in their pursuit of perfection. Their favourite line is “prepare to be assimilated”, and “resistance is futile”…. hehehe

Living long and prosper *makes the sign*

pegasus
pegasus

Yeah Scorps, smuggling (pre-electronic gagetry) was a great way to satisfy
wanderlust & pay for trips, but not something i would recommend nowadays!!
Musn’t look back too much coz it scares me. Did get caught tho’ once. Do the crime
do the time….where do you think i learnt French:) Not WEA or Tafe.

scorpion_tongue
scorpion_tongue

Virgo Sun- Scorpio Rising and Leo MC. I don’t feel very Leo. Except I like to sing and perform, otherwise I don’t feel I possess Lion like qualities. Maybe that’s enough? 🙂 It is my only Leo sign and it’s on the 10th House Cusp. There’s also my Virgo Mars in my 10th House. Ultimately, I am self motivated and work best alone. I have paid my dues in retail and tried to be chipper and joyful and sometimes I really was but I really wanted to be alone reading, studying or writing (music, poems or short stories). I wish… Read more »

Uranian&Plutonic Virgo
Uranian&Plutonic Virgo

scorpion_tongue, that’s me too! Virgo Sun, Scorp Asc so yes, Leo MC! 🙂
I have Venus in Leo too, just, at 0 36, so not actually conjunct the MC.
I still wonder if it means smth along the line of public…public career? Visible? Vibrance in public? As you can see I have no clue. 😆 But ought to really, gotta be useful, right?
Love reading people’s replies, sometimes I jot things down. Forever learning.

scorpion_tongue
scorpion_tongue

oh wow! I like to work 50% or more behind the scenes in writing, painting, writing music or playing amateur detective and then for brief spurts of time be public about promoting my art, music. I pushed myself hard to be on on- cheerful public person and I was miserable. It took me until now to fully realize that I need to work alone or be a leader of a small group and/or run my own business. I wish I had followed astrology when I was younger and I think I could have avoided following dead-end jobs. Do you like… Read more »

fluid feline
fluid feline

Can anyone enlighten me – Saggo MC, Jupiter in Taurus in 3rd, Leo sun in 6th??? Have burnt bridges throughout pluto transit thru Sagg but thankfully; jobs were torturous. Hate working 9-5 and love to work with passion. Am still bringing up two kids 9 and 11 so don’t want a consuming 8 – 5 job at present. Am capable of hard work – leo in 6th – have great work history and academic record. But so need flexibility, perhaps uranus transiting my asc opp natal uranus/pluto/mercury in virgo has led to my fuq it attitude?? Any insights career wise… Read more »

taurean with the HMBOTS
taurean with the HMBOTS

hey mystic, i know this is not an astrology course but i absolutely love it when you go on these tangents, one can learn huuuuugely, though it’s mostly still a fog of incomprehension for me …… patience grasshopper!

i’d love to know what you know, LOL!

also the fascinating/instructive blogs from everyone, yea! i do miss cheshire cap though!

as far as i can see my MC is pisces but no planets, what should i be doing??

pegasus
pegasus

Grokking IS exactly that….assimilating.

prowlncat
prowlncat

pegasus if I assimilate any more cosmic stuff I fear I might turn into a Borg. Actually … those Borg skintight black suits are kinda sexy … and the eye piece always did it for me … hmmm

pegasus
pegasus

My careers have been Hair Stylist, Beautician, Model, Personal Stylist in Boutiques,
Silver service hospitality, Band Manager & Music Promoter, Artist, Hostess,
Smuggler, Madam, Holistic Bodyworker & Tantriki……now i’m tired:)
Attention Deficit Disorder or just a Sagg? Pluto in Sagg sure had me dedicated
to one thing.
Anyways it took courage to do some of the things i wished i had not.
Just back from Beach hols with my divine best friends, AquaMan & CowGirl. Post holly blues.
And really don’t feel like working, hope the creative urge develops soon.
Libra in Mid heaven……………………..why is THAT no surprise!
Easter always fazes me a bit.

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

hey Peg, I have Libra MC too!! Sun and Neptune in 10th house. I have only ever had ONE creative title/position in my 24 year career!!! only the responsibilities and company names changed. Back in the 80’s i hardly believed i was actually getting paid to do what i loved. The only time i didn’t enjoy my job was 2 years ago when working for a more corporate company – 6 years of blood, sweat and tears and a near nervous breakdown but the contacts have been invaluable. Saturn really does reward. Freelancing now and life is wonderful again… I… Read more »

Leo Water Carrier
Leo Water Carrier

Eek! My MC is in Scorpio! What does that mean? I know nothing about Scorpio. Isn’t it the dark and sexy sign? I’m not very dark and sexy at all.

fluid feline
fluid feline

Scorps – depth seekers in whatever you fancy, depends on where your Pluto and Mars are placed and sun etc. However, Scorp MC research, depth psych, detective, medium Plus many more that other more informed individs can tell u. If Leo in 7th maybe marriage counsellor??!! no expert.

Leo Water Carrier
Leo Water Carrier

Thanks fluid feline.

I’m a social researcher maybe I’m not that far off and it’s my place of work and not my occupation that has me a bit restless. Pluto is in Libra and Mars, Mercury and Sun in Aquarius.

This whole Scorpio thing has me a little freaked. I only found out I have a fair chunk of German ancestry last month and now this!

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

oh c’mon Leo Water Carrier, you’ll be okay. Just take the good aspects of Scorps – the power, passion and strength. Scorp MC is PERFECT for researching – depth and insight

unbalanced twin
unbalanced twin

Hmm. Nothing at all in my 10th house (or my 7th, 8th, 9th for that matter – looks very unbalanced with half the chart nearly empty). Am I doomed to obscurity?

fishgirl
fishgirl

Everyone has a MC. Look on astrodienst UT. The chart below the first chart on ‘personal portrait’. It will list your MC.

unbalanced twin
unbalanced twin

Midheaven is in Pisces and I’ve got the whole of Aries in my 10th house; what I meant was that I haven’t got any planets in my 7th, 8th, 9th or 10th. I work in the building industry so the aries is appropriate I gues.

X
X

OK I have Pluto and Uranus in the 10th house ( I may even achieve eminence. wtf?)

Midheaven in Virgo (17 degrees) and Mars Trine Midheaven.

Can anyone help? I’m lost.

fishorsemomma
fishorsemomma

venus in cap midheaven(does it matter if its in the 9th?, nothing in the 10th!), funny i always thought my jupiter in gemeni rising was the career hit, i was in the film biz and all manner of creative stuff, but came late to motherhood~ (and stability), or perhaps (hmmm a bit rusty on all the astro stuff) my career is more to do with beauty?

gemmarose
gemmarose

Oh cute, research shows creativity shows up for this midheaven as a steady rhythm in their work.I am meant to be a photographer, yippeeee!

Research also showed they have a conscious relationship to food. Ahem. Putting down the chocolate…

mandy
mandy

Maybe you could put your um.. creative appetite into being a food photographer… then you would have to pick up the chocolate to you know… move it to spot where the lens can really capture what our heart truly desires.. chocolate… and you know once you touch it, its yours

venus a-go-go
venus a-go-go

Oh Oh! I am a Taurus with a Cancer MC.
I am having issues with my current job because its not creative or as challenging as I would hope. I have been looking aorund for jobs… applyin, but not getting any love. Which is interesting cos I normally get the first one I apply for.
I shouldn’t be corss cos I made it to the top 140 out of 1,100 applications… but interviews were for the last 60. *grumble*
Am meant to have all this loved up biz juices going on and its all stale and boring boringness….

scorpion_tongue
scorpion_tongue

Do you like to work with animals?
The cancers sun or mc I have known were so perfect with animals. very compassionate, loving and empathic to the furry creatures.

gemmarose
gemmarose

I love aminals! Except the mouse in my house that bit me on the toe last week (strange but true). Not so loved up with that little furry creature. And I wanted to be a vet when I was little, even volunteered my weekends in a veterinary.

gemmarose
gemmarose

Cute! We are sun/mc twinnies. Hmmm I’m often off on some creative tangent applying for random jobs that appeal (I am actually a real live grown up photographer amoungst other things) and reckon when I get turned down for jobs I am trying to follow the wrong path. I often apply for interesting ones that would take me on some career tangent but like you vagg (he he he) don’t get any love with them. Reckon you are barking up wrong tree if you are not getting that one. I usually get the first one I apply for too. Have… Read more »

venus a-go-go
venus a-go-go

Just come out of 3 year undergrad (I went back to uni)… Totally loved it, but I was getting to a point where I was workign 2 jobs (see below) and doing a course full time. Need a break, really….

Blossom
Blossom

Hi Vagg, it’s a bit of a cliche, but volunteering at something you love can lead to fulfilling work. You can use it to test out new ideas before committing and help create a job. I have no quals for my current work, but masses and masses of experience. It’s just my thing, but if you have brilliant biz juices going on, what about a community business? And I would back GemRose in random applications. My bro applied for a dull job, but when they met him, they were so intruigued by his quals and experience, they created a new… Read more »

gemmarose
gemmarose

Volunteering is the way to go. I had a full time job within five days of handing my thesis in because I did so much. If you have time….

venus a-go-go
venus a-go-go

Honestly,

I Have been volunteering for a community radio station for around 6 years now. I get paid on and off… but mostly they milk my connection (I book for a live music weekly showcase).
So I kinda grind my teeth a little when it comes to volunteering….

scorpion_tongue
scorpion_tongue

ok- I just thought Cancer energy= nurturing.
I’m sorry about your strange mouse that bites.
He can’t be caught or tamed?
Or reasoned with?
Mice can be such little devils and also are little sweethearts too. So soft and sweet. Good luck with him he sounds bold! 🙂

gemmarose
gemmarose

Taurus with Cancer mid heaven. Am I ever going to leave the house? Hmmm off to do some research on this one… Intrigued.

mandy
mandy

I have Jupiter/Virgo & have the urge recently to try something completely new. This is much better way to understand which career is best suited. Thanks Mystic, your the best!

Lexicon Limbo
Lexicon Limbo

TA – this is a reply to you from yr message higher up the page – for some reason there is no reply to some of the messages, is it just me getting that!??! Have been wanting to reply to some messages but it all gets out of sync……..anyway – no kids. Alas I’m just a doting Zia. Will check out your website now Oh & David – COMPLETELY off topic but I dreamt of you last night. I was in a room of random people & you were there. You specifically sought me out to tell me there was… Read more »

taurean alchemist
taurean alchemist

yeah, it gets tricky keeping track of the threads… just reply up the thread to the closest link that enables you to..your reply will appear below the lowest comment on the thread – does that make sense?

love to see you over on my blog, one never knows when parenting info might come in handy xx

davidl
davidl

Just saw your message Lexi, very interesting, this is not the first time I have been noted in the dream state of others in a similar way. I do have a very busy time at night, often wake up after extreme escapades. I will though meditate on your dream and see if any info comes up. Friends ring me from all over the world to tell me about what I was getting up to in their dreams. Maybe its that secretive moon in my 12th that for some reason has been giving me a busier dream than waking life over… Read more »

Lexicon Limbo
Lexicon Limbo

I’ve been having that busy night time state for a while now too……alas wish it was a different type of um….busy night time activity!

Let me know if you come up with anything. I remember being puzzled that it involved holy water, especially because I don’t particularly believe that there is any significance in holy water, even with my catholic school girl upbringing

davidl
davidl

so my MC is aries , sun aries in the 10th ? is that possible

davidl
davidl

midheaven is a much better name than Medium Coeli, which sounds like a bowel complaint..

gemmarose
gemmarose

Sounds like a small creature/virus strain that lives in your bowl and CAUSES the complaint.

Ram tormented by Librans
Ram tormented by Librans

davidl – the spookiness continues … I too am Aries sun sign, with Aries MC. Cancer Rising and Libran Moon (just to make sure I have a heart I suppose!!!!)

davidl
davidl

Together we could run the world ! maybe even the galaxy! muhahahahahahahhahahahhahah !

Leonine Librarian
Leonine Librarian

Coupled with the series of realisations that I’ve been tripping over today…this is very timely stuff indeed Mystic. Thanks.

squeakmaster
squeakmaster

Pisces here with Gemini MC; I tend to get along well with geminis, perhaps this helps? Curious though — I have NO planets anywhere near here (all below the horizon) except for Chiron in Taurus. Can’t remember what Chiron’s about. I’m a little sympathetic towards it now, as far as celestial bodies go, seeing as he was the only one “awake” in the sky when I was born 🙂

twicethevirgo
twicethevirgo

i’m gemini mc too and it shows. i’m a writer, academic research nut, kind of doing a form of anthropology — i love doing fieldwork cuz i get to interview people and get them to tell me random stories. but then i also have mars in gemini.

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

nice work on fishgirl’s MC analysis saggigal and prowlncat!

saggigal
saggigal

lol prowincat, we posted at the same time and even used the same word- bolshie- in our responses! apt seeing i learned that word from mystic..

prowlncat
prowlncat

yeah I pinch heaps of mystic’s vernacular! I haven’t used “grok” yet … must assimilate.

saggigal
saggigal

fishgirl, i think aries midheaven makes you the pioneering sort! someone charting new territory, being bolshie, a leader, the boss, in charge. a career which requires action- you’d probably not be the kind to sit for hours researching, or plodding along in an office job or you’d go mad. sounds like the venus retro is halting/slowing down your efforts to move forward or be able to put your best face forward (so to speak). and maybe therefore you’ll find that things magucally start happening again when venus goes direct- as i’d imagine venus conjunct MC would be tres auspicious in… Read more »

fishgirl
fishgirl

Thanks Saggical! well the weird thing is that for lots of the writing i do i have to research a lot. But it galls me and i have to remind myself to pay attention. It’s the pitching i’m good at – some editors reckon i’m a better pitcher than actual puller-offerer, if that makes sense. See now your Cap MC would be a better puller-offerer than pitcher…success demands both, hey?

unpredictable pisces
unpredictable pisces

other than my ranting above f’girl, i do want to wish you the best of luck. echoing TA above somewhere, the Arts Council of Aust has a swatch of literature grants and more that you might slot right into (?)…i was inspired by prev comments and looked it up…

prowlncat
prowlncat

I can understand fishgirl … but try having Aquarius there. Makes you more or less bats and subject to unpredictable bouts of erratic and eccentric behaviour that is most unsuitable in the workplace. As well as the whole “so what’s the big deal about showing up at 8.30am on the dot … like so long as I get there sometime before lunch who cares??” thing. Having zero earth in my chart doesn’t help with that whole routine business either. I’ve manifested mine workwise as a freelancer in the creative fields. At the moment I’m very, very free. Read: broke. But… Read more »

Edwina
Edwina

But i decided that even this is too restrictive – so now i do all my teaching in the first semester and the other 8 months are mine to research (and with scorpio in the 6th house and my sun in the 12th it is what i love to do) I am also an aquarius mid heaven girl – and my how i hate routine! to make things more bats I have uranus in my 6th house (AWOL on the day job, absolutely) But teaching is really good for aquarians (sharing your random truth with the masses) I teach at… Read more »

Edwina
Edwina

I am also an aquarius mid heaven girl – and my how i hate routine! to make things more bats I have uranus in my 6th house (AWOL on the day job, absolutely) But teaching is really good for aquarians (sharing your random truth with the masses) I teach at uni – heaps of freedom, heaps – there are three hours in any given week when I absolutely have to be somewhere but the rest of the time is up to me – a sauna in the middle of the day, a little gardening…. I lasted as a commercial lawyer… Read more »

leolady
leolady

Aquarius midheaven here too – and i totally agree that research / teaching in the uni environment is perfect. turn up to work at 11am? sure! turn up at 7am after a sleepless night, why not? as long as the work gets done. i have lilith conjunct my midheaven, and though i suppose this is meant to mean difficulties in career, things have always come easy to me and i often feel i’m praised for work when i’ve barely touched it / told to work less when i’m baring working at all! saturn in my 6th is also supposed to… Read more »

fishgirl
fishgirl

Thanks Prowlncat, i do say ‘die’ occasionally, but am always amazed that i start agian. And again. I have Mars in Aquarius so i TOTALLY empathise re: work routine being galling. I think that’s why i love being freelance too. BUt the brokeness is really getting to me at the moment, the recession has meant my regular clients have all reduced word rates/cut back use of freelancers completely so i have to…think of something new. I think an Aquarius Midheaven would make you so forward thinking. Do you work in TV/Internet/Marketing?

prowlncat
prowlncat

well yes-ish …. more like marketing, brand strategy, advertising, designer, writer sorta consultant person. Oh and I sing … to cats, but that’s just a hobby. 😉

fishgirl
fishgirl

That is so Aqua MC! I’m sure you’re fantastic at it too…

Lexicon Limbo
Lexicon Limbo

Ok if I’m reading this correctly, I have Pisces on the Midheaven with Sun, Mars, Saturn & Pluto in transit. Any ideas on what that could indicate I would be good at??? I’m eternally wondering what I want to be when I grow up…..as I rapidly hurtle towards 38. Eep!

prowlncat
prowlncat

psychologist, counsellor, private investigator, photographer

Lexicon Limbo
Lexicon Limbo

thanks prowlncat – kinda funny as I was just reminiscing on sunday about how badly I wanted to be a PI when I was a kid, I was way too addicted to Alfred Hitchcock & The 3 Investigators. I even typed up cards & put them in letterboxes in my street. Not ONE case came my way dammit!

taurean alchemist
taurean alchemist

lol, pisces MC here too LL… has taken me FOREVER to figure out what to do with my life 😆 then it dawned on me to surrender to doing exactly what I am doing now and just go with the flow. Having said that, I’ve developed passionate interests in psych, archetype, any thing mystical and the media (MC ruler, Jupiter, is in the fourth house so I need to work from home).

Uranus has been doing the do on my MC (23 Pisces) for a while… can hardly wait for Jupiter to get there!

taurean alchemist
taurean alchemist

ps. the modern ruler of Pisces IS Neptune but as Robert Wilkinson points out – this is an OUTER planet so unless you rule the world, use the TRAD ruler… its more personal, you see.

Lexicon Limbo
Lexicon Limbo

This fellow Taurean is with you on the going with the flow! Plus the anything mystical. I just figure that sooner or later I will find myself where I need to be

taurean alchemist
taurean alchemist

ps. do you have kids LL? I’m writing about parenting with a mystical bent on my website… (www.mamamagic.wordpress.com) Sorry Mystic, I can’t resist a plug – plus my new project was your idea!

Leonine Librarian
Leonine Librarian

TA and other LL, I’ve also got Pisces at MH…and Saturn in the 10th. Also a nice little combo of Mars trine MH, Jupiter trine MH and Mercury MH too.. Some of the little pearls that resonate today are for Merc opp MH from Astrodienst… ‘You will look deep within yourself for answers to the questions that come up in life….Because you are in touch with your feelings, you can react to a situation according to your real needs, but only if you concentrate on the present and the future rather than the past.’ Mars trine MH, ‘ You have… Read more »

taurean alchemist
taurean alchemist

Leonine Librarian! That really is quite synchronicitous isn’t it?

Leonine Librarian
Leonine Librarian

Yes TA it is very. I could really relate to your comment about it taking forever to work out what you thought you were meant to be doing…and consequent relief when shifting focus to present tense. I’m finding that if I can link what I am doing to my core values; the stuff that I do just because it fuels me on a heart level, and or societal level it’s falling into place now, and gives me a wider playing field to let opportunities to connect and weave into a fulfilling purposeful life. Reading the stuff about my midheaven gives… Read more »

taurean alchemist
taurean alchemist

I look forward to your thoughtful, always thought provoking comments over there LL xx

fallen angel
fallen angel

Amen to that Sister! And I say this hand on heart having been preceded by a Lovely Libran sister who knew ABSOLUTELY what she wanted to do (banking..zzz) and the Grifter Cap (anything in sales where she’d be out of the house and $$$) whereas I applied to three different universities under three different courses, much to my father’s dismay who found it slightly schizoid. One was for med school & fine arts (in the same uni), the other was for philosophy and the last one was for advertising. So it was truly hard being the last little fish out… Read more »

taurean alchemist
taurean alchemist

yay Angel’s back!

funny, I’ve always had an idea you had Gemini Rising… which I suppose depending on how far away from the equator you live, would give you Pisces MC.

When/how did you find out your birth time??

hmm. just had thoughts about my Pisces sister who has relentlessly pursued her career in a highly specialised field – including eons at Uni and strange jaunts to remote rural australia – and would seem really rather Virgoan. Of course she has 0 degrees Aqua MC.

taurean alchemist
taurean alchemist

oh, got that wrong – my Pisces sister has 0 Capricorn MC. I suppose that makes more sense.

Leonine Librarian
Leonine Librarian

Small sample of my career path.

My first job was cleaning cars for my Virgo father’s hire car company.Have sold shoes, bread, pottery, flowers. Can only sell it if I believe in it to some degree….have kept scary Tupperware Aunt at bay for decades.
Have worked as a researcher, and for a software company, and ran away to the Zoo one summer oh and Library….love the library.

Have felt better about my own twisty path after meeting a HR director that threw it all in to build and operate his own pirate ship.

Blossom
Blossom

LL you can’t drop a nugget of info like that and leave it be. Built and operated a pirate ship – do tell more!!!! I’ve never known what I wanted to be. On third career, and getting itchy for another. Always wondered what I would be when I grow up. More interested in what is round the next corner than following a path. Uranus in leo trine mercury in aquarius, and Gem MC, has led me to be very creative and full of ideas. 10th is barren – is that why I have no idea what I want to do… Read more »

no name brand
no name brand

LL I have saturn in the 10th too in aries. My MC is amping at the moment – much ado about something.

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

TA, i have Jupiter in Taurus in 4th house. Only recently started doing a bit of work from home – LOVED it!! Have been lucky with real estate with that placement too.

FA, with your MC and Merc in Gemini AND in the 10th house – you are so meant for a communicating/presenting role!

Leonine Librarian
Leonine Librarian

Blossom, I came across a lot of strange dream pathways people were realising in their day to day life when I was holidaying with the Libran Sailor man in 2002. As I remember it the pirate was in HR…but just looked at website but apparently he was in insurance…and sick of being rejected each day…he came to be a pirate on a day by day basis in a convoluted way. (well at least to my thinking…and I found it all a bit refreshing) After leaving their jobs He and his wife tried to sail to the Caribbean but ran out… Read more »

Leonine Librarian
Leonine Librarian

No name brand,

have you found yourself resisting Saturn in 10th much …over the years that is? Have you found yourself edging towards embracing it? I’d imagine having all this happen in Aries gives quite a different flavour than Pisces…curious as always though on your take…

fishgirl
fishgirl

artist, philosopher, human rights lawyer, poet…guru, academic, priestess…

fishgirl
fishgirl

I’d love to know what others with Aries on the Midheaven – do. It’s a very impatient Midheaven to have.

unpredictable pisces
unpredictable pisces

hiya fishgirl. aries MC and venus in aries to boot here… i’ll tell you what i do – one fulltime job but wish there was 3 of me so i could do everything…I have a long list of careers i still want, and some of the things i have to do to get them (including: international business, textiles designer, musician, outspoken campaigner for the cause of women everywhere and especialy debunking the crap myths that men love to use to dominate women. I want to work out a way to show women – everyone – that they don’t have to… Read more »

fishgirl
fishgirl

How funny – I’m a feminist too but in a more subversive way. We also share mars in Aqua in the 8th. i don’t know what that means other than i can’t stand rules/restrictions and nothing makes my blood boil quicker than people who cannot think outside the square.

unpredictable pisces
unpredictable pisces

hmmm. well at the moment i’m not a feminist crusader, just doing some job in an office (can you hear the cogs grinding…squeek..visualise laminate desk…lovely…), but it’s one of the things i encounter in the wider world that i want to deal with more in my ‘next’ role (somehow). And yes…rules…well…i live by them at work at the moment and being my own boss looks more and more appealing..every second! I think it’s only the moon in cap or some other influence that keeps me sticking to the dayjob atm , plus wanting $$ I do like prowlncat’s idea of… Read more »

unpredictable pisces
unpredictable pisces

ps my mention of politics to be taken with many grains of salt and hysterical laughter! nice thought tho 🙂 hee hee

prowlncat
prowlncat

I vote unpredictable pisces for Aussie’s first female PM

fishgirl
fishgirl

I second that

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

I hear ya IP. I have moon in Sag in the 11th. So don’t get me started on shite sharia law, injustice and wanting to give abusers a taste of their own medicine (Mars in 8th).

Idealista – hehe. Love it!!!

unpredictable pisces
unpredictable pisces

nice work scorpbot. Maybe there’s enough of us to start our own political party… ! So, first we need a manifesto… we could put fishgirl’s writing skills to political ends 🙂

um, so, like since my candiacy for PM has been proposed and carried, does that mean i have to tap Kevin on the shoulder now? “er, ah, kevin. my electorate has given me a mandate to replace you as PM …” my mandarin isn’t so good though. might affect relations with China…

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

hehe… you’re getting ahead of yourself. Maybe tap Julia Gillard on the shoulder first. Then brush up on your mandarin.
I could listen to Kevin speak mandarin all day. It’s so cute.

unpredictable pisces
unpredictable pisces

indeed there are a few female contenders well ahead of me! besides in spite of my idealism and wanting to change things i don’t think i could hack the politics and personal sledging…too sensitive – i would use other means to achieve goals. i’m more of an ideas man… networks…use what’s there..etc

as for what fishgirl says – the abusers being the abused at one stage is a common story isn’t it…perhaps rather than mete out punishment blow for blow (still tempting) it’s more about having them truly realise what they are doing…pull the weed out by the roots ‘n’ stuff

fishgirl
fishgirl

so weird, i have mars in 8th too but don’t have any urge to give abusers a taste of their own. I think to be abusers they must somehow have been abused anyway…

saggigal
saggigal

your description of your ideal career/role in the world couldve been taken verbatim from my lips, i feel exactly the same way about women’s issues and the need to empower people to challenge structures/ideas of what they must be. its my absolute passion, and am attempting to channel it into a viable career right now myself!! so all power to you, UP, the more of us out there the better!! 🙂

saggigal
saggigal

and for me that doesnt come from my MC (though it gives me follow through, as fishgirl suggested earlier) but my many saggi planets, aries rising and aquarius moon. fiery intellectual feminist, hell bent on the ‘crazy’ idealistic notion that there shouldnt be inequality based upon gender, etc!

unpredictable pisces
unpredictable pisces

i reckon this is the real New World Order saggigal….!

fishgirl
fishgirl

Interesting – especially the transits to the Midheaven. Any thoughts on Venus retro almost conjunct my Midheaven (Aries, 0 degrees)?
I’ve been sending out pitches galore and working on my book but so far being met with a resounding emptiness of inbox.
Can’t even get a waitressing job! It’s actually funny.