The Real Saturn Return Meaning

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The real Saturn Return meaning is that you acquire worldly wisdom that drastically improves your life. But, the school fees are expensive.

Saturn Return occurs every time the Karma Cop returns to where it was at the time of your birth. That’s every 28/29 years. It is invariably a phase when we reckon with time, our history and stature in whatever society we are in. If you don’t do Saturn, you can’t access the Outer Planet genius of Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto. Or, you can, but it’s an erratic frequency.

So ideally we get three Saturn Returns a lifetime. The world’s officially longest-lived woman – a Piscean – had four. Jeanne Calment loved chocolate, olive oil & cigarettes. She took up fencing at age 95 & recorded an album named Time’s Mistress.

Saturn Return Strips Away Fluffy Delusions

Saturn Return – along with Mercury Retrograde – is probably the best known of astro-passages to the non-cosmic public. Ignore the gloom-mongering. At base, the Saturn Return meaning is just a super-intensive version of any Saturn transit and, as such, it works if you work it. It strips away fluffy delusions and cute little veils you may have draped over unpleasant realities. You don’t need them, you never did and now you can see that. Once you remove all that clutter, you’re left without enablers or energy vampires to go out drinking with. Soon, you won’t even miss them!

Saturn Return – the first one – is simply when Saturn gets to the same place that it was when you were born. It happens for the first time at about the age of 28/29 for everyone. Saturn takes that long to go around the Zodiac cycle. Before the first Saturn Return, people often feel invincible or as if certain aspects of ‘grown-up’ life don’t apply to them. What aspects? Anything from rules about not drinking tequila all day to flossing your teeth or paying tax on time. It can be when you realize harsh relationship lessons; that bad boys turn into bad men. Or that love can be true at one point but fade nonetheless. And, that people you’ve slept with are quite different when you’re no longer sleeping with them but have possessions, children or money to argue about.

Saturn Return Separates Girls From Women, Boys From Men & Non-Contenders From Contenders

But Saturn Return separates girls from women, boys from men & non-contenders from contenders. It’s a fantastic time to take yourself and your goals more seriously. You look around and realize that you are no longer automatically one of the youngest people in any group. Emotional scars itch. You can be poignantly aware of defeats and the time you’ve wasted in the past. But Saturn is not the sort of astro-energy that rewards wallowing. Turn your regrets into a practical action plan and watch the Saturn Fog dissipate.

Decisions are weightier than they’ve felt before and if you skidded around responsibilities or hard work earlier in your life, guess what? They’re upon you. The good news is that you can work your way through a Saturn Return. Having a coherent plan, cutting out the crap you know is bad for you and working like mad are all time-honored Saturn Return mastery techniques.

Dental Bills Seem So Non-Fabulous

The first Saturn Return is the hardest. Demands to get an accountant, grow up or pay $$$ for dental bills seem so non-fabulous. It invites comparisons to peers and their earnings or achievements, along with those of older people when they were at your age. It evokes father issues and the eerie awareness that you can’t trade off youthful naivety or cute bubbly charm, if you ever did. The second Saturn Return is easier because Saturn is the Time God; every Saturn transit gets better with age.

It’s more challenging in that people in their late 50s are evolving their self-maintenance regimes to support their joints or needing to digest disillusion with the way certain things turned out. A classic second Saturn Return SNAFU would be the combination of elderly parents, disappointing children and feeling less ‘seen’ in society. Or dealing with work irks that seem like deja vu even as you’re fuqed off with your appearance or metabolism. But the bonus? An enviable aplomb when handling most of life’s vicissitudes. By the time the Time God swings around for the second time, you’ll have reliable instincts and a hard-won calm. You won’t mobilize valuable resources to deal with a threat that barely warrants a raised eyebrow or lose your chill-serenity over a faux romance. You’ll have a serenity that you would have longed to have when you were in your 20s. Or, even in your Thirties and Forties.

 

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Mary
Mary

I´m about to experience my first saturn return. I guess I have and idea of the themes that will show up. And of course, a lot more that I could not know right now. Fortunately, I always loved the archetype of the Hermit (Sometimes I feel I resemble a bit of it) I see him as the Wise One. I´m in love with wisdom, it´s deep as Pluto, liberating as Uranus and you can merge like with Neptune. What else to say? My Saturn (17º Libra) is exactly conjunct my IC, square the nodes, in a looose conjunction with Pluto,… Read more »

cindy
cindy

I am just coming out of mine and man, do I feel free. Or rather I didn’t realize how weighted down I felt until I got through it. I had a child already (at 27), and was already married (wedding during my husband’s saturn return). But for me, the return was about house and career. Neither of us had owned a home (he was 34) and were so resistant to it. I actually was really not wanting to do it and almost felt like my husband forced me. It was a good longterm financial decision and I am ok with… Read more »

whatevs
whatevs

Is saturn in your 4th house? It sounds like you did really well – good on you for getting all that big life stuff going on and remaining sane.

Black Oak's Daughter
Black Oak's Daughter

Cheers Saggigal! Will do my best 🙂

saggigal
saggigal

yup- get ready to get very serious about any creative pursuits and/or the decision-or not- to procreate. saturn return in the 5th means you’re going to be compelled to actually in a grown up way make the things you want to to create actually happen. good luck!

Black Oak's Daughter
Black Oak's Daughter

Does anyone please have any advice for me? I’m 29 in three months and I have Saturn in my 5th house…

Hathors Horns
Hathors Horns

Im almost 31 and I believe Im pretty seeing the other side of my Saturn Return. It came on around the time I turned 28 and was pretty desperate as to what I ought to be doing with my life (marriage & babies vs career & travel) Once I could see thru the panic of getting Older it made me realise that time really is of the essence and that how I spend it (as opposed to killing it) is important. I realised I needed to just get on with my craft as best I could because it was what… Read more »

fluid feline
fluid feline

HH, sorry I think he is more a more serious/harsh god than that. BUT if you are an ethical, hardworking person, he will reward you; astoundingly. But, any flaw will have to be rehearsed again and again to his favour (flaw = laziness, dishonesty, rest-on thy- laurels, easy-come-by-it etc). At 31, you maybe haven’t grasped Saturn yet, but you will, and I agree, not all bad, I sometimes welcome Saturn.

Hathors Horns
Hathors Horns

FF, thankyou for your feedback. How Saturn has affected your life? What age are you now?

fluid feline
fluid feline

Hathors, where to start on Saturn!? I have him sitting within a degree of my pisces asc in the first house = harsh childhood, “not there” parents, only physically, grow up too quickly etc. At Sat return I had completed first degree after leaving school early as a rebel at 15 (which is just after the first Saturn squ??) – thought I knew everything then (ha!) – wanted to continue with post-grad but scorp hb convinced me to work so we could buy house, get ahead etc and I could go back later. I earned waay more than him back… Read more »

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

“harsh childhood, “not there” parents, only physically, grow up too quickly etc”
That’s so Saturn isn’t it FF. I have Cap rising. Exactly the same childhood.

Less control freakery sounds good though.

Lark
Lark

Sweetpea, That is really interesting since I often think of myself as a lone wolf and very independent – my Aries moon could play a role here – but I feel a strong need to look after myself especially financially, and the Saturn Return has been difficult because I had/am having difficulty, due to various reasons, supporting myself and have to rely on others and it drives me crazy! But yes, I don’t need groups of people, I prefer quality (according to me) company or my own. Also about the seeking completion thingy, a psychic (who I respected) once said… Read more »

Edwina
Edwina

No doubt I have missed this discussion but will add a few comments… I have a nasty face off between saturn and my sun and saturn and uranus (that is also in hard aspect to my sun) it is the eternal struggle between mad cap freedom and grown up serious duty – i had a lot of anx during my saturn return about whether I really wanted to be a commercial lawyer (no) or an ayurvedic massage therapist! – sautrn helped me accept my serious side so no i am a law academic (research in india) that allows me to… Read more »

Lark
Lark

I’m 29 and a half now. Where to begin…the best of times and the worst of times. My sense of time feels warped. Two days go by and it feels like a week. I _am_ the Hermit at the moment and would rather be alone to read etc than hang around with frivolous company. Flee a three year destructive, crazy-making relationship amidst a final flourish of scandal and vitriolic fighting between four people. Decide to not focus on men at all and focus solely on career. Move country due to better career prospects. Meet someone who I fall deeply in… Read more »

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Hi Lark, I’ve found the Hermit energy to be valuable at times and something I’m confortable with as have Saturn in 7th also sq. Sun and Mercury. My greatest lessons/growth have come through relationships. I think it was Kim Falconer who said that Saturn in the 7th is a “lone wolf” position in many regards (self reliant, etc). Also, that the individual is seeking completion within self (inner marriage as opposed to merely symbolic, outer one) and so will do this through relationships and also without one. It’s a challenging road and indeed sounds like you’re getting a handle on… Read more »

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

With a Cap ascendant i’m well acquainted with Saturnian energy but I had a wonderful Saturn Return – i bought my first apartment, had a job that i loved and couldn’t believe i was getting paid for it. I figured it was Saturn’s reward for having such a tough upbringing. Between then and now i’ve had a few really horrible soul-destroying, Saturn transits where i’ve worked my arse off – 6 years at one company. It felt like punishment at the time but in hindsight i can see the experience i gained and the contacts i made have enabled me… Read more »

no name brand
no name brand

spare the lash and spoil the child?

Savannah
Savannah

I dealt with post natal depression in my Saturn return. I’d floundered for 5 years trying to cope ineffectually/ignore/drink my way through it. FINALLY like you said Mystic, I had to break it down and deal with it. It involved dealing with my own childhood trauma’s as well – naturally. It was a heavy yet liberating time when I finally waded through the quagmire.

Earth bound Aries
Earth bound Aries

My Saturn return coincided with getting married (at 28) and having a wonderful entree into domestic bliss – never thought I would ever find someone as lovely as my boy. It was great to feel like I had joined the ‘real’ world and would not wind up, in Bridget Jones parlance, alone and half-eaten by an alsatian. Then there was the negative – by 29 I was working in a great job, doing quite well, when along came an evil Scorp to rain on my parade. She and I instantly clashed and then she rallied around all the others in… Read more »

Typical Taurus
Typical Taurus

Thanks Mystic – this explains so much. Particularly the two lists I wrote the other day….they went something like this…. By the time I’m 30, I want to: *have made a significant contribution to the world through my job *be living in a home that brings me peace & joy *be in a meaningful relationship *be contributing to savings/investments *own a piano & a dog On the way to 30, I must remember to: *eat thoughtfully & be active *spend time building & maintaining friendships *appreciate my family for who they are *not feel guilty for being true to myself… Read more »

taurean alchemist
taurean alchemist

TT sometimes when we are working toward creating order in our lives things get really chaotic and crazy for a while before they settle down. Take it as a sign that the work you’re doing is actually achieving something.

Oh, I felt compelled to write that, also as a reminder to myself as Saturn transits my Mars and Pluto transits my Saturn…. xx

ariesartist
ariesartist

wow, erm… I am thirty (16 days ago) and I have no piano or dog, am still a little bad with cashola and living pretty frugally. I would say that is a MASSIVE list TT and very Typical taurus too! but for the first time in my life I live in a house i feel comfortable, peaceful in and can invite people over to. it is rented and I am hoping to go overseas next year, so is kind of temp. I think the most important realisation has been the lack of time I have left. How much I need… Read more »

venus a-go-go
venus a-go-go

I keep putting off writing my list. I get the feeling I should have done one when i finished my course.
Maybe I should spend my Dark Moon in doona cocoon, making lists…

prowlncat
prowlncat

Actually, now that I think about it, Saturn was the first in a long line of lesson style transits that taught me how to stay in the moment. With Saturn staying in the moment meant focusing on what had to be done right now, and doing it well … rather than always wanting to be someplace else and having one’s head off with the pixies.

scorpion_tongue
scorpion_tongue

sometimes having fun with pixies – is just that more fun. saturn is so damn serious all of the time. 🙁

prowlncat
prowlncat

yeah I know, but I permanently was off with the pixies …. no earth and all that 😉

prowlncat
prowlncat

I had four years of Saturn transits. First the Saturn return at around the age of 29 which lasted I think just over two years and then Saturn went into Cancer for two years. So it was mega crunch time. I had to grow up. Big time. Paid bills and long standing debts, lived by myself completely self supporting for the first time ever, stayed in one job for nearly two years for the first time ever. It was horrible and I hated it. But I did it and somewhere in the middle opportunity started to knock in the form… Read more »

gemmarose
gemmarose

Huh. Maybe that’s what the mouse in my room was about. Pegasus was saying in animal medicine mice mean scrutiny. And that having it show up meant I was missing details or had something I needed to scrutinise. Maybe its a plan for my Saturn return. And I racked my brain at the time. Hmmm.

I also feel so much better when I stay on top of my life, same as you Sweetpea. Hmmm hmmm hmmm.

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Mystic, I really like the reminder about Saturn….”DO the details. Have a plan. In fact, where ever Saturn is in your chart RIGHT now – have an insanely anal plan and take it real seriously. You will be amazed at how a lot of the dread just dissipates once you do the WORK Saturn requires.” For the last couple of weeks it been all about getting tax stuff ready, doing estimated taxes for next year, numbers crunching, savings accounts. Just burnt… But feel so much better for staying on top and in control of my life as when don’t, pay… Read more »

Champagne Bearing Aquarian
Champagne Bearing Aquarian

Mystic, I love your take on the Hermit. I often think of him as a bit of a passive old bloke – sitting around ruminating about life in his little cave, but the idea of him actively venturing out to confront thorny issues with only your own little light – it makes him almost like The Fool, except he’s got a mission and he’s armed with the courage of his convictions (And as an Aqua with about a bajillion planets in Virgo, that image is*so* satisfying! Oh how I love symbolism) My Saturn return is this Spring, coinciding almost exactly… Read more »

scorpion_tongue
scorpion_tongue

I’ll try to find out!

scorpion_tongue
scorpion_tongue

I have alot of Scorpio in my chart.
Venus, Jupiter and Neptune in Scorpio and
Scorpio rising. yikes!
investigative nature I think is similar to Virgo’s ability to be analytical.

no name brand
no name brand

that must be it i’ve got venus mercury moon and neptune in scorp. I wonder what david lynch’s chart looks like…

scorpion_tongue
scorpion_tongue

Natal Chart, Planets, Astrological Chart, Horoscope
David LYNCH,
born January 20, 1946 at 3:00 AM in Missoula (MT) (USA)
Sun in 29°45 Capricorn, AS in 18°16 Scorpio,
Moon in 5°09 Virgo, MC in 3°16 Virgo
Chinese Astrology: Wood Rooster
Numerology: Birthpath 5
Height: David LYNCH is 5′ 11″ tall (1m80)

http://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/52dW54z5ALTt.htm

no name brand
no name brand

I am so LOVING YOU and your scorpio ways from afar ST – nice he’s a wood rooster – I am a wood monkey we share the same numerology too – i always wonder if the peeps you love and revere are really just reflections of yourself you are admiring? Their expression of an aspect of yourself. They are obviously better at expressing it but do it in a way that is pleasing to your eyes / ears / soul ? Davidl would know he’s the sage haha hempmeisterD.

scorpion_tongue
scorpion_tongue

I share number 5 also!
I started wondering the same thing too. It’s as if it’s a secret language and when you find another native it’s a relief to discover you aren’t alone.
I like that they described David as “Jimmy Stewart from Mars.”
I picked up similar vibe 50’s conservatism mixed with Cap/cusp/Aquarius/Neptunian otherworldly insights.

no name brand
no name brand

OMG he has dark moon lilith conjunct his ascendant in scorpio and moon in the tenth – he is channeling these energies in such a positive and powerful way. Thanks for finding this ST.

no name brand
no name brand

there is no actor who shits me more than jimmy stewart ;o)

no name brand
no name brand

and yes good not to be alone xxx

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

i would agree with that theory about peeps you admire being a reflection/expression of oneself and I can see how you and scorpion_tongue admire Lynch with all those planets in Scorp! I ADORE him too.

scorpion_tongue
scorpion_tongue

I also love Jimmy Stewart.
thx! Scorpalicious.
I wonder how many of his fans share scorp planets or similar planets as him.

no name brand
no name brand

what is it about jimmy stewart ? I’ve never got it. Maybe it’s a cultural thing. Am I missing the point? Find him so aggravating.

scorpion_tongue
scorpion_tongue

no name brand- you should write a book- your life is an adventure. 🙂

no name brand
no name brand

honey i don’t know who would get bored first me or the reader but it is somewhere in my chart to write a book and wizened crones with psychic powers have told me it’ll happen so maybe you are right :o) I have some sad news ST I discovered I was wrong about my mercury in virgo – that must have been you I was thinking about haha! Mine is in scorpio – but I do wonder if we have similar neptune or something seeing as we can both detail the corsages and outfits of supporting actors in non-climactic scenes… Read more »

scorpion_tongue
scorpion_tongue

From what I have read I doubt it would be boring!

Does anyone know much bout astro-topography?
If I live in a city that transits or activates my Saturn- will it ever get better or just get the hell out?
I feel so much more alive and carefree in LA, that activates my Venus for example.

no name brand
no name brand

Aqua Cap and I live by this – we move to places where our astro is activated specifically to achieve different things – it works but sometimes in unexpected ways – ie where mars is means you get work and shitloads of it but also where you have to deal with pent up energy and sometimes aggression. Sydney is where my mars and neptune cross for instance – wise mystic told me this would be good if i was a world renowned martial artist but I am not and Sydney is 100% out of control for me – i end… Read more »

scorpion_tongue
scorpion_tongue

oh- it’s Astrocartography not astro-topography. lol!

fluid feline
fluid feline

You can look astrotravel lines on astro.com. Of course not suggesting that would be better than consult with Mystic – I’ve had one and thoroughly recommend it. Very interesting life NNB and I’d read your book. Never thought about actually moving to increase power/wellbeing when needed, only thought of holidays. From memory Melbourne was a good place for me and I’ve never been there. Going back to research it again. Thanks for that tip.

Blossom
Blossom

Thanks for the reminder FF. My best places are Newfoundland and west of Melbourne. Could also retire to Sydney! Unfortunately all my best options don’t cross land masses. Perhaps I should become a pirate after all.

no name brand
no name brand

I realised I was having mine by accident and my life had been a bit of a car crash before that so I immediately had my first astrology chart and consultation done. That guy passed me on to another astrology friend and he gave me a medieval reading which was totally focussed on alchemy. I did it armed and consciously, living alone with a pile of esoteric and occult books. I stopped going out, having sex and imbibing nefarious substances. I visited wacky spiritual places with my up for anything lunatic friend and sat in geodesic domes while people played… Read more »

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

“Aqua Cap even had his chefs knives with him as hand luggage and they didn’t find them til we were almost on the plane” In final check out in Munich, 2004, had a cheese grater in carry on and not the one with lots of holes but a singular blade. They let me on. Maybe it was because of the “Germany” sweatshirt I was wearing. Sounds like before your Saturn return you were very busy NNB. Around the time of my 1st return youngest was about a year old or so. I had quit working and stayed home for seven… Read more »

no name brand
no name brand

crikey sweetpea that’s profound – he’s in the mirror

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

lol….

Yes, it could be a full time job otherwise…

no name brand
no name brand

o and by he way not that vegetarians are mad just that those particular vegetarians are mad old squatting hippie turned wealthy capo right wing cliche. i was a vegetarian before i met aqua cap but he’s a chef and he made flesh taste good so i converted to the dark side.

Cap in transit
Cap in transit

Oh – and another thing. It was when my first baby was born (I was 29) that I finally realised that it was my parents who had both left me as a child because they were doing self-absorbed 1970s hippy shit, not because I was a horrible person. And that I was capable of being loved and of being a good mother. My parents were gemini and pisces and divorced when I was 7. When my own daughter was 7, my mother (in her late 50s) moved back to my home town and seemed unable to realise that my daughter… Read more »

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Cap in Transit, That’s tough about the step Mom. So sorry you lost your Mom! Was 27 and pregnant with my second child when my parents started divorce. Was nearly suicidal. My ex drove home from work in the middle of the day because I told him I was going to drive the car and me and unborn into a wall. Both of them (parents) putting such pressure on me and I was pissed at both of them for not taking responsibility for their (emotional) lives. Dad wanted to stuff new wife to be down my throat. Meanwhile, Mom was… Read more »

unpredictable pisces
unpredictable pisces

my saturn return tips:
1. WEAR SUNSCREEN and LOOK AFTER YOUR SKIN
because whatever you do as a youth will show as you go past 30. If you care.

2. At least one area of work, personal relationship, money or family will sh*it itself so whichever one you KNOW is wavering will probably be the one to crack or morph.

trying to be brief so that’s it from me…….

Cap in transit
Cap in transit

I have sun in Cap, moon in Libra and Cancer ascending (just like Mel) and have just turned 40. My saturn return was amazing in retrospect (though I didn’t know I was doing it at the time). I shaved my head and left an alcoholic, swore off men forever and then fell head over heels in love. We got married, blissfully in 3 months, had a baby straight away, I finished the degree i had been slaving over for 8 years while pregnant. A man knocked on my front door on the morning of our wedding day looking for me… Read more »

no name brand
no name brand

o i love that you found love with saturn – i always wondered if finding love in saturn returns meant it might be cursed because it’s meant to be when you sort your shit out not invite something (not shitty) in. It’s amazing how swearing off things makes the right thing visible. Nice work CiT – re below the relationship bush flower essence is most excellent for sailing through stupid boomer parent crap some of them never grew up – I’m always amazed by their need to formalise things and repeatedly marry and divorce – why don’t they just live… Read more »

no name brand
no name brand

there’s something so beautifully symmetrical and balanced about the timing of your events.

Cap in transit
Cap in transit

Dear no name brand,

Thank you for your kind words. I bought some bush flower essence. Mostly I wanted to say that your comments about feeling HOME for the first time ever at/after the saturn return are so true for me too. I have never felt more loved or more at home these past 12 years and we’ve now lived in 3 countries coz my artist husband keeps getting residencies around the place. Your life sounds amazing. Good luck to you too. And thanks.

no name brand
no name brand

o you’re so welcome – good luck with the remedy – i use it to cope with my boomer scenario – for me it makes everything seem simpler like it separates you from their stuff in a harmonious way it seems to neutralise the energy. Hope it works in some good way for you x

Ãœber Virgo
Ãœber Virgo

I spent my Saturn return having my ideals hammered by a Sagg trickster wannabe guru. He was a real shit. The encounter exposed all my prior doormat tendencies, and the fallout from going head to head with him damaged my career for the next seven years (come to think of it TA). The upside was that it made me more ruthlessly practical, and helped me stand up to ye olde bullies of yore, who now grovel in my wake. Currently, I’m doing Saturn (conjunct Pluto and soon Uranus, post conjunct Sun, merc, venus, MC) simultaneous with Uranus opposition. So it’s… Read more »

Libra Twins
Libra Twins

I moved from the country to the big smoke, leaving behind large but not smothering, family and support network. Mostly for career (natal Saturn is conjunct MC) but also, I think, knowing there was more out there. I had periods were I felt completely alone (well I was physically) but came through the other side realising that I could stand on my own two feet, emotionally and financially. Maybe because I’m a fairly Saturnian being, grounding my Gemini rising and moon, I found it one of the biggest growth phases in my life to date and overwhelmingly positive.

saggigal
saggigal

my saturn return allowed me to grow into the adult self id been quietly cultivating but had not really let out due to all kinds of identity crises from crazy 20s. it taught me (sometimes brutally) to accept that yes, i want all those ‘normal’ things that i had previously poo-poohed – kids and own home being the biggies. it taught me that a marriage could not be based on fun and socialising together. i learned to slowly respect the fact that no, i was not some wandering happy go lucky gypsy, but wanted and needed foundations and stability to… Read more »

taurean alchemist
taurean alchemist

*blush* Saggigal that’s such a wonderful compliment – what an honour to have helped you 🙂

and yeah, go funky Mama! xx

unpredictable pisces
unpredictable pisces

still battling the housewifey prejudice here, glad somene’s busted thru it, gives me engouragement if i ever take that path.

taurean alchemist
taurean alchemist

housewifey prejudice in all its guises IS a real bummer for the creative soul…

The Leo Socialite
The Leo Socialite

My Saturn Return for me was a freakout re aging – I kept seeing beautiful young girls in the street or at cafes and crying. It was actually much easier turning 40 for some reason. I got into the tax system instead of thinking such grubbiness was beneath me. I got into a live-in relationship that i whole-heartedly thought would last for eternity. Mystic said to me a long time ago that people who try and wriggle out of doing saturn stuff at the return age miss out on all the good things of uranus oppositon. because you nee dto… Read more »

Ãœber Virgo
Ãœber Virgo

Grow it out Socialite! Feel the wind in your hair again.

It’s nice to see you back. Hope the divorce hasn’t knocked you around too much.

davidl
davidl

I thought a brazilian was the budget deficit left by Bush ?

Sweetpea
Sweetpea

Good one David…

xox rockstar libran publicist xox
xox rockstar libran publicist xox

TLS – that was so me! the freaking out at aging at 28 BUT luckily NOT since!! then was G.M of deluxe import designer product empire, sole female in boardroom, in my 20’s with the men SO much older. One foot in the posh pit, the other in the mosh pit…..outside work hanging with local surfers or bands or skateboarders etc. Twas the time I began investing in white goods, entered the tax system & had hot heels & wheels. After going hard to Saturn Return turning 40 was a walk in the park! THO can’t come at self mani-pedi… Read more »

taurean alchemist
taurean alchemist

The Hermit could not be more apt for Saturn in Virgo too… (it being related to Virgo qabalistically) Yes Saturn takes time – in Vedic astrology they say that the Saturn return is actually seven and a half years long – from the time Saturn reaches the natal position to the time it squares the natal position seven and a half years later. Reflecting on this I believe it – I can’t honestly say I understood my Saturn return when it was happening but by the time my Saturn Square came along I was starting to take the hint. Of… Read more »

picky fish
picky fish

I gave birth at 28 and spent the whole 29th-30th years cursing the domestic life…

Now my mother is in her late 50’s Saturn return and has completely lost her mind, when will that stop I wonder?

weathergirl
weathergirl

Decided to get married at my Saturn Return. Was floundering financially until then and the marriage gave freedom from my crazy family, stability, a house (I’m a Cap w/ Saturn in the 4th. One of my greatest fears is being homeless), and cred in my community. Also got my first “real” (read: non-artistic) job. Boy did I pick the wrong mountain. Now, with divorce nearly done and Saturn readying to upper square my Sun (Fall 2010) I’m in a driven state to redeem those choices made back then. Taurean friend is helping me plot the redemption. Real numbers, concrete plans… Read more »

venus a-go-go
venus a-go-go

*high fives Gemmarose*
Well…. I am turning 29 in a week or so and still seem to be in the throws of Saturn returning… or maybe its just beginning.
My next door neighbour does stencil artwork and about a year ago a stencil appeared outside my front gate saying ‘Fck off Saturn, Fck off’.
… I am not so sure how I feel about it being out there really.
Its not Saturns fault….

gemmarose
gemmarose

Good luck my friend. I’m 29 in two or so. Mine is in the twelve house so all about neuroses, dreams, secret worry, past life crap etc right? Certainly seems that way. Letting go. Letting go. Letting go. Though might make a badge like your neighbours sign. Whether or not its Saturns fault it might make me feel better.

gemmarose
gemmarose

p.s. HAPPY BIRTHDAY! x

venus a-go-go
venus a-go-go

Awww THANKYOU! HAPPY BIRTHDAY to you as well:)

no name brand
no name brand

U could stencil a welcome mat with the symbol of saturn on it and put it in front of your door to bring venusian balance to the hood.

Aquarpio
Aquarpio

Strangely, I cannot remember anything of significance during that time for me and even had a reading just around then or after? During which the astrologer talked about it a lot and still I did not see it.
I did, however, experience all that crap when Saturn spent a hell of a long time in my relationship sector starting in my 30th year and definitely saw and felt it’s impact on me big time. Sucked booty but I love myself a thousand times more now.

gemmarose
gemmarose

Ha. Perfect timing Mystic. I am going through mine right now. Like literally RIGHT NOW. Having weekly sessions with psychologist (who is wonderfully also great astrologist) to sort through all the crap of last 28 years and move along. Interestingly got the Hermit in my tarot reading this morning. Have also started significant skin care regime (realise not going to have great skin at Mum’s age if don’t actually look after it now) and appear to be morphing from tomboy to an actual (gasp) girl. If any of you have tips and pointers for surviving this I’d appreciate immensely. Seems… Read more »

scorpalicious robot
scorpalicious robot

hey, i think i finally morphed into a girl around 39? still a tomboy at heart though.

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