Astromantic

Filed in Saturn

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The Daily Horoscopes for Monday are posted & what interesting times we live in!  Sun into Pisces moving to Neptune = Magic you can grab if you know how. Moon in Glib Gemini on lucky Jupiter is a bolt of good fortune & Saturn going Retro in Scorpio is, well, see your Scopes.

Some feel this more than others. It’s definitely a good time to consider your evolution since early October 2012. Oh so you don’t think there has been one because you’ve been too damn busy?

That’s just Saturn. Betcha there has been one hell of an evolutionary process going on. Adaptation. Dropping off of ‘fins’ and ‘gills’. Metaphorically, obviously, they say you shed shit you don’t need as you evolve. Finding a more suitable ecological niche. Etc.

Its only been four and a half months of Saturn in Scorpio…how are you doing? Any aspects of your life gone extinct already? Still trying to date a dodo? Thoughts?

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164 thoughts on “Astromantic

  1. Saturn in Scorp in my eight house ..

    I feel very figity, I can’t stand still. I want to make my dreams happen and constructively use every nano second I have available to do this. It’s quite obsessive.

    Learning new things about health, anything spiritual like Astrology for e.g brings me such pleasure.

    I’m become very aware of what i DO and DO NOT want in relationship and sex. I can’t wait to meet somebody and test it all out but I ain’t going for just anybody, no. I need that connection and I have this feeling I’ll be meeting him soon. Just cues from the universe that I’ve been picking up on …

    ALSO saturn is affecting my second house of self image etc in Taurus. My Aries sun is in the second house. And I feel like I’m evolving at warp speed. It really is a great time to be alive.

  2. dang, only four months? Its felt like a lot longer, more progress in this four months then I can remember in any other time, not that im old enough for that statement to mean anything

    • it’s your living memory though so it does mean something everything is relative if anyone judges your living memory by subjectively comparing its ‘relevance’ to their span of time on the planet thus imposing a temporal hierarchy where they and their span is the measure of what is meaningful it’s irrelevant – or it should be. unless life online is skewing one’s perception of reality as an individual that is…. saturn in scorpio. interesting times.

      • ya I guess, but come on, im not even fully cognitively developed, technically, the jury’s still out till im about 22, at least, if my brain isn’t even fully developed thats a lot less warranted weight to my observation then if I was anything older than 22, on top of the fact its just objectively less time, AND up until 22 its all kind of exponential, what if this last year or 2 is how its going to be from here on in, and my, now all of a sudden things are more this then ever, might just be noticing the beginning of what being an adult is really like, I mean, not to argue with you defending me, but still

        • it is indeed exponential this unfolding of time and entirely subjective which is precisely why those older than yourself have no place judging your observations of your perception of your times. and yes, this is how it’s gonna be kid. lap it up, feel every single moment of it with every cell of your being. there is no better time for you to be alive and feeling these things than right here right now. that sounds glib but it’s true.

          • i just meant that my observation might lose weight in relation to other people or in how applicable it is to others, I know my feelings are legitimate and all, and dont worry I am fully immersed in whatever this is, and I should say I value nothing more than inner work and further developing, nothing, so its tougher, but Im loving it

        • Hahaha I had to laugh when I read that you think you are yet to fully cognitively develop. Although its such an innocent comment and i get that you are being self deprecating I’m 22 it’s not like anything changes in fact perhaps stress and alcohol has killed more brain cells than my youth. Maturity in itself has no biological timeline. Some days I feel 45 and others I feel 5. Your comment made me feel like I’m 80. Thanks for making me laugh tonight

        • Hahaha I had to laugh when I read that you think you are yet to fully cognitively develop. Although its such an innocent comment and i get that you are being self deprecating I’m 22 it’s not like anything changes in fact perhaps stress and alcohol has killed more brain cells than my youth. Maturity in itself has no biological timeline. Some days I feel 45 and others I feel 5. Your comment made me feel like I’m 80. Thanks for making me laugh tonight

  3. My business which has been home based since its inception 4 years ago has finally outgrown a home office environment and I’ve moved (just this weekend in fact) into a funky shared office space with about 4 other tech startup companies and micro-businesses. It’s fruckin awesome!!! The air-con!! Oh air-con how I love thee *weeps with joy*

    …. oh and the best coffee shop in the universe happens to be next door. :mrgreen:

    In relationship news … I decided to change tack and start dating normal guys. Well relatively normal. More normal than I’ve gone for before. Basically avoiding complicated drama queens like the plague. The one I am keen on at the moment – the Aqua – well he’s normal but in an interesting way. We shall see how it plays out tho’ … learned a long time ago not to try and call things too early.

    • that’s awesome about your business. well bloody done. and an air con space makes it even sweeter hey lol.

    • I guess having NN, MC and Mars all in Aqua I find I kinda “get” them – he at least seems grown up and structured about how he expresses his wacky aqua bits. He’s also got a lot of Libra (Asc, Moon) plus Cappy Venus which oozes practicality and consistentancy. Then there’s the Saggo mars which is on my moon … just for a touch of spicyness. Oh and my sun is conjunct his big crabby midheaven – so we’ve both got the homebody, protective/loyal thing going on.

      There does seem to be a strong connection for such a young relationship and we do have a lot in common – the things that are different are complimentary, like he’s placid, calm and patient which nicely evens out my fiesty, assertiveness.

      • sounds lovely :) And congrats on the new digs – especially the great coffee shop next door. Trés important :D

        Is the Aqua the same one you had a breakfast date with? The one with the shaky hands?

        • Yes coffee IS important – especially when your office group gets a discount and only has to pay $3 for a medium skinny to go!!!

          Nope mr shaky hands was a Sag – way too much of an all day texter for my liking. V. handsome tho. :/

      • That is some pretty powerful synastry doll, sun/mc is great (esp for you being the sun) let alone the rest. Moon mars is hot bedroom, NN is great too. Happy you are making good ground lady. Biz and love combo x

  4. I’m a dodo, I’m afraid. It’s going through my first house and all I have realized is that I’m not up to making changes at all. I’m going to have to renew my lease for another year (they are HOUNDING ME to re-sign like, weeks ago, I can’t put it off much longer) rather than moving because god knows I am still not ready to manage it. I’d have to buy a car in order to move and that scares the shit out of me and I have NO CLUE about anything with cars other than how to operate them. I don’t know what other work I’d do if I moved anyway and people have yelled at me that I need a career goal first. Two psychics have told me that I can’t find true love (and won’t be rescued or meet anyone) until I find a new career. I’ve been looking for one for 6 years and am no closer to figuring out one.

    I am just…still not moving, at all, whatsoever. I thought Saturn in the first house would change something in me, make me GET UP AND GO, but I have not. I really, really, need some mentors or help or something, I’ve even prayed for divine intervention…and nothing. I can’t do it alone, I have to do it alone. I won’t be doing it at all, I think, because I don’t see evidence of myself actually moving short of being towered. Even if I want to change, I’m too Taurean/fixed to, apparently. I’m really disappointed in myself.

    • Mytic’s “dodo”…got a giggle outta that…lol

      Jen, @ 33 yrs old, I started doing massage on 15 hours training and it wasn’t even accredited. Had been doing massage at doctor’s offices for four yrs before I got the proper schooling….My point is, don’t listen to other’s agendas on how something should be done. Their way will never be your way and doors will keep opening if something is meant to be.

      Meanwhile, I encourage you, as I was encouraged, to “pick a dream”. You are not stuck, of course your’re not love but often we will feel we are as that is the impetus to move and grow. “Divine discontent” as it is said. Perfectly natural and how evolution works.

      Divine inspiration doesn’t always come in the ways we expect as we are required to fall back upon ourselves, and yes that can suck, but how else to manage our lives unless we would want someone else to do it for us and speaking for myself, I certainly don’t want that.

      Recently, Aries dad told me my Honda Accord is ‘shot’…193,000 miles…Have had it 14 years and the engine light is on. Kataka condo mate will put it on a diagnostic machine this Monday but if it is near over, well, can’t say I’m gonna cry much. It has been of service to me and don’t think I want another car anytime soon…There is something very freeing about having very little that this world places it’s values on. Less to be disillusioned by.

      Saturn square Aries parts and Cap Moon I will walk or take the bus. Realize I get off on challenging things. It’s how we test our reality. Often, we make problems for ourselves just to see if we can overcome. Turning things around, life is an adventure and if we can embrace that in the moment, that is a key to happiness. x

      • nicely said sweetpea. i like your words and wisdom. re cars, i am car(e)less at the mo, and yes, life goes on! buses are great, a whole different world full of fabulous stories. will get a car again, saving at the mo, but not feeling a great need. only time i miss it is when i want to go for a long drive in the country and even then the magic sometimes happens cause i get the use of a car for a day or three and i can go. tripping off.

      • Wonderful Sweets !
        I don’t have the big fancy vacations and things that came with my ex and his fat paycheck, but I am the happiest I have ever been with my little non-profit arts paycheck and quiet spiritual studies.

        The little things in life bring me joy, good cuppa java, my cats, my garden and Game of Thrones comes out on DVD in two days !
        Huzzah :D xo

    • One tiny change can be all that’s needed to get things started.

      Move the furniture in your house around. Walk to work a different way. Cook something you’ve never tried before. Baby steps are still steps forward :)

    • After reading my horoscope, I dunno. I don’t feel like I’ve initiated any big change – just responded to them being pushed on me. I wonder if this is bad… Being reactive instead of proactive. That said everything has been left of field and unpredictable.

      Gosh darn. I feel like I failed by successfully plodding along.

      • With all due respect to MM. What we get here is an interpretation of the skies. A pretty darn good one but an interpretation nevertheless.

        So the Zap Zone etc are all ways of MM “interpreting” the current astro. It is one persons view. I like to read her but she is often saying things that are at odds with what I am picking up from the astro and the current vibe.

        A lot of people are doing it hard. A lot of people are stuck. A lot of people need rest, relaxation and rejuvenation rather than a caffienated hyperactive supposed Uranus in Aries experience. Seems to me that Uranus in Aries needs to take a chill pill. Like a lot of Ariens, it’s time to realize that there are a lot of other planets in the system that need to express too. And not all of them are off their face on a fuq you caffienated speed experience. It’s not sustainable.

        To qote one of my favourite astrologers: Even Joan of Arc needed to put down her armour occasionally. And it’s my interpretation that more than ever, people need to slow down and listen to their body before they totally burn out. The tension in the population at the moment is extraordinary. All this competitive Aries stuff is not where we should be heading. Surely!

        • Hmmm, not sure if I agree with your interpretation of Mysts message.
          My take is that change is happening at a deep level, and it’s churning up a lot of shit. The exhaustion in people is basically the exhaustion that comes from fighting change. Go with the flow (even more so if the channel is fast) or hang on to the old, hence exhausting yourself to the point of oblivion, or evaporation in Mysts words.
          What I’m seeing is a lot of people fighting the tide.

        • I feel what you’re saying and am glad you shared an alt view. I feel stuck, but stuck by a benign universe that wants me to chill out and be ok already. I think you articulated it better.

          • exactly ! Chill out and let the wave move you, go surfing if your inclined or just let it take you x
            There is nothing to do really, except relax into it.

            • David, there is a lot in the world that is changing true. But it is still a violent world. Many people are living in poverty. Whole countries are oppressed. And even in the middle class enclaves of the western world many people are stressed, anxious and depressed.

              I love MM. Don’t get me wrong. I prescribe to the DM and all. But occasionally ‘getting your awesome on’ or ‘stay stuck and you’re fuqed’ are the last things your mind needs to hear in the struggles that you face on a day to day basis.

              Not everyone is beautiful (I do have an issue with all the photos of models on this site – I find them skinny, ugly and part of the problem rather than the cure). But many of us live ordinary lives with limited resources. Surviving on a day to day basis is the issue. Putting meals on the table. Driving the kids around. Doing the shopping. And working in an unsatisfying job (not career).

              My take is that going with the flow is all good for some. But for many it borders on insult. I am inclined towards compassion rather than feeling bad because I’ve had to put my awesome on the shelf while I put food on the table.

                • Monte, it gets down to faith…

                  I raised my girls on food from a discount store most times.. I could only afford certain amusements also but I did not waste my time thinking in negative terms about the state of the world…if you cannot make it, emo/mentally, etc, the world will not either..we have to be strong in whatever way we can be..

                  Whatever your corner of the world, be STRONG..I understand the predicements you are talking about, but we must strive for positivity! We have no choice, quite frankly..

                  I drove my girls around in a car with no insurance for a year…I could not afford it but did i get in an accident? It was against the law to not do so but I did not get in any accidents.

                  .I did not live my life in fear even tho I felt those fears…I recognized them and said no, I choose to not live this way…We must choose people!

                  • Sweetpea, positivity has it’s upside :) . But at the same time being authentic (another buzz word) means we are not bull shitting ourselves that it is all good when it’s not!

                    Being real about where you are and not kidding yourself about your feelings (old and new) is far better than faux positivity. Having read some of your posts I truly believe that you are a positive person. But we all do it differently. And one person’s authentic is not the same as another persons.

                    My own experience on occasion, is that being told to avoid qi vampires and stay in your awesome, just makes me feel worse. Astro is just energy and we as humans often indulge in all aspects of energy – good and bad. Indeed, we make mistakes all the time. We are often a long way away from our awesome. It can be argued that we are here to make mistakes!

                    And I don’t like the word awesome.

                    • I dare say you have taken your less than awesomeness feeling out on us Aries, not taking into account that being born of that persuaison leaves a hell of alot to live up to…And do you not think that in our darkest hour we do not doubt?

                      This is solely your issue monte but a universal one in that I have cursed my own masters for being free of th e things that I feel encumbered by, but they had to liberate themselves, just as I do…And it does not come without assistance…This is where we’re never truly alone, altho it will appear to be

            • I agree, David. I recently watched the movie Forest Gump (for the hundredth time) and decided I am going to live like that from now on. Go with the flow and just accept every experience…good and bad. Enjoy it or learn from it and move on.

        • Lol i don’t think Joan of Arc is a good example of chilled out. She was fanatical about pretty much everything and often slept in her armour to deflect molestation and to be battle ready.

          I am never pro people being strung out or burning out – i prefer more the model of (say) martial artists who are super-relaxed & limber, with a v.Zen attitude but of course totally prepped for any adversity that may come their way.

          • I was quoting Liz Greene. Even Aries do need to chill occasionally.

            Maybe I’m wrong! Has happened many times before. *head down* and tomorow I will try really hard to find my awesome :)

            • Nah, I get you Monte, and my old friend the acupuncturist would always say that from a Chinese medicine perspective westerners are all too yang and have burnt out their yin! I don’t think the dawning of the new age w the zap zone to get the evolution happening would happen if everybody continues to be super hyped self centred go getters, but I think its how we interpret what mm says and words are symbols and have power I get that…. For me going w the flow means slowing down, getting my awesome on means being centred and deeply abiding in my heart, the zap zone plays out in my personal life to remind me what my intentions are… I don’t think your wrong Monte, just your interpretation babe… Love a person who speaks against the grain…. Pg

          • Yes! Block and counter. Sometimes you step into the conflict- right into the space of the attacker because you are less vulnerable there.

      • Hmm. I’m a little confused by this tangent on the Arien energy and how enervating it is, at least confused to the extent that I never saw that as the sentiment behind this particular MM post or the suggested Zap Zone protocol for Occupy Awesome/Avoid Qi Vamps/Evolve or Evaporate.

        I think being in a place of your own power has nothing to do with everything being sorted, perfect or conquered, in fact it’s the exact opposite. If I may offer yet another facet, you doing YOU however and whatever your circumstances are to the best of your ability, the whole gritty lot of drudgery right alongside the bursts of aspirations, is in fact YOUR awesome. It may not feel awesome, it may not fulfill what we would expect awesome to be, but it is you fulfilling a role, and a place in the world only YOU can, however humble, modest or seemingly un-lofty it may be.

        I remember just thinking the other day about my own wounds (I had a beyond hellish relationship with a person now called the Sewer), and how achingly lonely life felt at times, when suddenly I sort of realized all this time I’d been looking at all the blowback I suffered as wounds I expected to nicely scar over and take for being healed.

        But what if, I thought, what if – this was more akin to an amputation than a gash? What did it mean for me, when all this time I should’ve been learning how to cope with losing something I really would never get back? Vs. you know, thinking I would heal to the same capacities and character I had before.

        Truly, I couldn’t tell you a story that would offer any kind of ending. But the one thought I did have with absolute conviction is that the world has a place for people like me. This isn’t as sad as it seems. Just as soon as I knew that, I also understood I’d been there for so many people in ways only this now-somewhat amputated version of myself could be.

        Even if you think you’re just surviving now, you’re not. Behind everything you’re doing and plowing through is a wisdom built into your cell-soul, it is that which connects to the flow. Not feeling it doesn’t mean you’re not in it.

        So the evolution really isn’t that you’re expected to be any “better”, be “improved” or “upgraded” in any formatted mechanical manner, but simply an unveiling of who you are, in fact how amazing you are, through the very circumstances that plague you. And that eventually seeing you through all that, allows you to understand your everyday is the act of evolution. It’s hard to perceive it as such when you’re in the thick of it, but one day you will look back from a place that understands all of those “little pieces of survival” was really about weaving a much bigger story.

        Growth is very much episodic, what appears stuck today, can very well be blooming tomorrow.

        As for the model pics, they’re kind of anecdotal and ironic really. I think this is one of the more vastly populated by feminists (even our lovely men here are) sites, though thankfully it’s never dampened our sense of humor nor our appreciation of real beauty however it appears.

        • Fallen Angel. I cannot call you FA :) I was responding to the original post by WOOHOO who said,

          “Gosh darn. I feel like I failed by successfully plodding along.”

          But I will admit to not being a master of the written word. And I am obviously having trouble being understood. Even MM thought I was using Joan of Arc as an example of being chilled – which I didn’t by the way.

          My point is – WOOHOO don’t feel so bad, many people are plodding along and feeling like they have failed. And I felt that sometimes all this awesome talk can make you feel like it’s everyone but not me.

          I was trying to redress what I see as an imbalance on here.

          But I am not overly erudite and obviously have great difficulty in making a point and being understood.

          All this and I am not even sure if my point is right anyway. And that I am just out of the flow.

          • I think you are very erudite and well understood but find it interesting that you day you are neither. I’m putting that in my T Pluto square Mercury file. We can’t say what we are: we are it.

            It’s tough to find the balance. I appreciate MM’s Uranian style and I’ve gotten exposed to a lot of great art through the site. Somedays, yes, I don’t want to do Mars and the model with no thighs is depressing. Isn’t it enough that the Pope resigned or a woman was murdered at home, you know, work weary. What MM brings me back to is style – or really glamour and I didn’t really know that word’s origin until I read some Kim Falconer. There always is something you can do to make life more glamourous for yourself, even if only cleaning off a table. Anyway – the pendulum swings – but you are erudite and I hope continue to contribute your thoughts.

          • Monte,
            I just read what you wrote, in reply to WOOHOO, and your own interpretations. (FA, j’adore what you said too, well said methinks)
            I get ya, respect what you’re saying, and I see you as absolutely erudite.
            I totally get that even with the whole not pushing the river biz, putting food on the table, that it’s ok to pull back when our bodies feel it’s needed. To state the obvious, one person’s awesome is different to another’s, but it doesn’t mean it’s any less awesome for that matter. Some days my version of awesome is simply to make sure my dog(s) and I have enough to eat, preferably three main meals, but if not I’m grateful for two.
            I’m an admirer of compassion, depth in observation, and seemingly rarer still, the ability to disagree without being disrestpectful or name calling, all of which I see are in abundance in your comments. It may not mean much to you, but I appreciate your energy and even more so the way you eloquently expressed yourself. And thanks for the reminder to chill out, as just today my own job consultant told me to chill a bit, as I’ve been pushing so, so hard; she reminded me that with my last job I pushed so hard my health literally suffered, and consequently the rest of my life felt the reverberating effects.
            Thank you.

        • FA, because of the soap? haha.. Yes, I did get that you were responding in sympathy to Woohoo and the Joan of Arc reference wasn’t so much about being chilled as your using it as an illustration than even warriors must rest.

          Just I think folks chimed in to (just like you) offer a course correction on what all this talk of Zap Zoning Evolution really means. No, it’s not to create additional pressure, after all your process is your process, and your perception, whatever it is, your reality. I would hate to think of you as being driven away by the Zap Zone check ups that happen here – which is really more of a ra-ra reminder to the community.

          Whether or not we’re getting on it is a totally different matter altogether. :) I’m sure you can tell by the recent series that a number of us here are still wrestling with the Undead in the Romance Dept. In fact, I’m pretty we even had a post once where we came out with No Love Zombie Left Behind, and it’s really in that spirit that this encouragement is offered.

          Maybe even this little back and forth is part of the flow, which means really, you’re in it. As they say, there are no mistakes no?

    • :-/ I really wish there was a different mobile format for this site, so I could better read all the comments that everyone leaves.

      On an iPhone at least, the longer the thread goes on, the less words per line…until all of the comments are only one word for every line.

  5. Aside from a touch of Pisces wallowing everything is looking ok, within the next few weeks
    Saturn trine Saturn
    Neptune trine Neptune
    Uranus trine Uranus

    Me no complain.

    • Those three transits are not possible if you are talking the normal orbs. Maybe you are thinking other aspects rather than trines!?

      • yep, your right, one was a sextile.

        Saturn sextile Saturn:
        Neptune trine Neptune:
        Uranus trine Uranus:

        Also your remarks above, I beg your pardon Monte, I never promised you a rose garden :)

        Monte, I have 3 young kids, 16, 13, 9 a mortgage, run my business from my bedroom, live hand to mouth and basically don’t do much else other than support my family, struggle for them, shop for them, taxi them constantly. I’ve been doing that 24/7 for 15 years. But you know what, I chose all of that, and you know what else, if I didn’t enjoy it, I would change it.
        You not getting aries energy. Its not hyped, adrenaline speed..its keeping on going, not letting the turkeys get you down and enjoying my life as much as possible.
        Not sure why your insulted ?

        • David, my feeling is that it is actually ok to not be feeling your awesome. It’s ok to feel down and to tell people that is how you feel. And that sometimes, just sometimes it is hard hearing about how good everything else. How to stay away from qi vampires when I am the qi vampire. Sometimes you just need to heard!

          By the way, I admire the Aries energy. I have several first house planets. But it is often ungrounded. It can have very little self refection. And little care for consequences. The fuq you approach is the shadow of Aries not the haute. Aries needs to learn that other people (Libra) do inhabit the universe and to occasionally take that into account when going with the flow and being in your awesome.

          And they can be major whingers (which they normally hate) when their body starts to break down (through years of neglect) as if they have been struck down down by some sort of curse.

          Aries, like all the signs, has the good and the bad.

            • That’s a good get David. Like you I have Uranus in Leo but it is in a first house stellium with merc, venus and mars. Pluto in the first just in Virgo. Sun and moon in the twelfth in cancer with cancer rising.

              But it would be more truthful to say that I have been ‘a little down’ for a fair chunk of my life.

              *not looking for sympathy

              • Totally understandable with all those planets in the 12th Monte. I’m prone to melancholy with Saturn as my chart ruler.

                I liked your comments further up and I don’t like the word awesome either!! Motivational quotes don’t inspire me at all. Plenty does, but definitely not people telling me how I should be feeling.

                And… I’m having a Saturn transit – it’s 1º off my Sun and about to go retro. It feels anything but awesome!!

          • Hi Calypso,
            My natal sun is in 10th house. Currently I’m revising my career/vocation. Started a new course in Jan. Thinking of quitting ’cause i cant see myself doing it as a profession & not passionate enough about it. It was only ever going to be means to an end. Where’s your Sun?

            • thanks Tropic :0

              Sun in the 6th House, Scorpio – health, daily routine??

              I have been revamping these things, become a non-drinker, early-riser, meditatin’ yoga-doer. Dropped a few time-wasting habits. Now need to get my work on…

              it’s not the big experience I was alluding to which was more of a lurve thing, but anyways, probably more significant in the Saturnalia!

              xx

            • hey nice work on the health revamp Calypso. “meditatin’ Hehe I just had to re-read your comment with an American accent :D

              I only have Gem NN in the 6th…. ONLY? :shock: *just had a light bulb moment* I REALLY should look into that more *Virgo Mars takes notes* because it trines my Saturn in 2nd. Might offer a clue re career direction. And Jupiter is heading towards a conjunction in my 6th. Will be interestin’ to see how my daily routine changes! I think 6th is also pets. I’ve actually been thinking of getting a pet to help me deal with the Saturn transit.

              My health is good – Thank you Uranus/Pluto/Mars Virgo conjunct! Gave up the ciggies YEARS ago.

              Feelin’ much better today. Bloody pmt!!! sometimes it just sneaks up on ya unawares. And you end up walking around going “why am i so grumpy?…. Hehe.

              Yaaay for Saturnalia :razz: Keep up the good WORK ;)

              • haha…but actually I’m Australian, don’t know why I did that :)

                and because I’m such an early rising healthy liver, I gotta go to bed now…sigh (sometimes i think saturn has really knocked the stuffing out of me).

                good luck with the career divining x

  6. Lots of changes in last few months. New projects, giant debt, sudden sharing of home front with significant other. Still learning the sharing part.
    So glad to be free of the zombie tendencies. It was like ditching a giant lead weight and then realising I had chosen to carry it around all along.
    So much in such a short space of time.

  7. major spiritual/romance/routine/parenting evolutions going on here….all good but yes, intense – a retro-inspired saturn break combined with a social quake could be a good thing :)

  8. Loving Saturn in Scorpio. Such a new era. Very intense. Steady stream of huge changes. There has been a lot of loss, swiftly followed by the beautiful and the unexpected. Getting better at rolling with it. Getting energy vampires out of my life. More femme fatale than love zombie these days.

  9. I cried today watching An Affair to Remember. its the only movie that makes me ball my eyes. I usually can’t bear movies that don’t have a happy libra ending. i spent the rest if today eating cupcakes at local library. Pisces in my 8th making me a little dramatic and romantically inclined. I kept listening to Toni braxtons unbreak my heart. Any song that has a tone of desperate longing turns me on (I must have lost deep love in a past life.)

    Yesterday I had an emotional breakdown (very piscean woe is me) because I have lived an extremely hard life of suffering since I was 6 and lived in survival mode all my life until it unexpectedly ended last year. I feel like this time lost has been stolen from me but i learnt nothing from all that pain. It’s hard to heal when there are no lessons or insights to take with your scars. Got my mother to give me a psychic reading (she is a psychic) and the message I received is that there were no lessons to learn but that they needed to give me extreme pain at the start of my life so that I will not suffer for the rest of my life. They said that there is strength in vulnerability.

    Focusing on career for the next year. Going to write down things I want to manifest and check it by the end of the year. Looking back I the only transformation I have had is in my view in relationships. (I used to think that playing games was good because I could play them so well. No wonder i kept attracting charismatic egomaniacs. Now I am anti-games and a complete romantic.)

    Nervous about starting my graduate job on 25th, hoping Virgo moon works for me as I have my major planets in 2nd house Vigo cusp.

    • I like what my teacher once said about the stuff we go thru “and so we let it just pass”..

      The things we need to understand, we will, but sometimes we don’t need to understand and so we just let it pass.

      Often, we don’t see what is coming because we’re still holding onto the past…

      “If you are one of those people”…then, well….

      • Thanks sweetpea,

        I love that. “The things we need to understand, we will, but sometimes we don’t need to understand and so we just let it pass.”

        I certainly don’t hold onto the past but then some days it hits me like a tonne of bricks. It makes me scared that I won’t be able to survive what I went through if it even happened again. But I guess there is no real preparation for life. I just don’t have any good memories of life yet. But I’m sure when I build some stability for myself I will trust in life again. My Aries is intercepted in my 8th (it’s hidden in my natal chart) so I’m hoping that Uranus will bring out some courage In me.

        Do u have any idea what “there is strength is vulnerability means?”

        Also just curious if you have any thoughts about fate vs manifestations?

        • Butting in here but strength in vulnerability comes up a lot in spiritual phrases. Like – an oak tree breaks, but bamboo bends, and weathers the storm without losing ground. Your hardships gave you a center that is strong because it knows what is tenuous, perhaps?

          • I always saw it in terms of strength in authenticity, acting out of purer more sincere motives is riskier, because if things go wrong you are acting directly from the heart and are liable to being more easily heart, its the strength to reveal what is really there, even if it means rejection or bad reactions, so if someone rejects you or you fail but you have yet to open up, it is no big deal, but if your acting from the heart, from the soul, then you are more stronger then anyone, but also more susceptible and open to injury because your leaving your most delicate deepest part of you to the elements

            • also, maybe just internally, the person brave enough to face there own inner demons and their own vulnerabilities, even admitting them to yourself, takes a bravery and strength of the highest metaphysical degree, so not just being vulnerable to others, thats just an example, more importantly just exploring your inner vulnerabilities, exploring how you really feel opens you up to more hurt and suffering, but it makes you stronger because once you have conquered the inner world, then thats as hard as it gets really, so the people who are “weak”, who are more emotional and vulnerable and sensitive and dealing with maybe soggy issues might on the face of it be not so strong, but they are dealing with issues and feelings that others might be too scared to face or even acknowledge, if they come out on top of that, if you conquer the self, then nothing can stand in your way

              • 12th virgs and Davie baby
                I am feeling your mutable love today. Ur the shit.
                I have lot of Pluto in Scorpio reflection to do. Thank you. I feel like giving u hugs.

        • Pema Chödrun on the Heart of the Warrior- you can google her quotes.

          Congrats on surviving Saturn in Libra!!

          Buy yourself some flowers!! Do for yourself what you’d do for your BFF who survived all that you have.

          You are not alone!!!

    • Hey PL, just a quick note of empathy to say I hear ya, I got a hard life lesson when I was 8 that knocked me off my axis for 33 years. I’m good now :) I lived with my scars for too long and my lesson has been about learning how to live well and peacefully, and how to love myself. I had to get myself into a pretty big, mucky mess before I could take that path. Glad I’m on it now, still learning and still loving. I send some to you xx

      • Calypso Scorp,
        Thank you so much for sharing your message. I’m sorry to hear you had a tough time too, it easily happens, and I’m so glad that you made it out ok. I’m sure you’re a real survivor and that is something to be proud of. I’m so glad to hear that you found the silver lining and found the insight after 33yrs (my heart goes out to you) And that you are now living with peace and love. It really gives me great hope and peace to hear, Thank you again for your kind words it really helps to know I’m not the only one.
        Lots of love, PL

  10. “Still trying to date a Dodo” . hahahahhahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahaha – that’s SO SO funny …but seriously …. unitl a few days ago, I was.still.trying.to.date.a.dodo ….. I think I might have the message now …. I’m a Fish-Snake – I’m gonna look after Numero Uno this year … wot’s the “Dead as a Dodo” saying?????? :-)

    • Poor Dodos. As in the extinct birds.
      Dodos became extinct because they didn’t fear man. Basically they would sort of stand there and get clubbed to death without running. Now sure, that’s dumb , but how cruel are we to be taking their name and addressing it to loser boyfriends.
      Did you club him anon ? Did ya ?
      ;)
      I think I’ll start a dodo respect league and make today ‘the day of the dodo’ …

      • I now have huge sympathy for the dodo. Thanks to u dave.

        If dodos don’t fear standing close me then I’m perhaps I am in search of an extinct bread. A traditional gentleman that doesn’t run from commitment. I’d do a dodo.

      • LOL thanx davidl – no, I didn’t club him … to exert that kind of energy was pointless :-) He just strung me along for a most of 2012 and then in Oct/Nov ’12, dropped off the radar … reappeared last week to tell me we were just friends and “did you think it was more than that?” – he played me … so I walked away. My sensitive fishy heart saw someone I thought I ‘knew’ and could connect with … turns out, I was wrong, but I was right not to get involved too quickly, otherwise I would’ve gone shopping for a cricket bat! ;-)

  11. I have noticed such amazing candor from friends and former colleagues under Saturn in Scorpio. Usually I am the blunt to the core one of any group, but lately everyone i know seems to no longer be bullshitting about careers or life in general.

  12. It has been an interesting to time.. I think that I have started to let go of some angst and am now feeling very much in charge of things. I missed out on what I thought was an awesome job, but have since been offered other roles when the dust settles from current fracas that some people are going through. At work I am now cruising, and seem to get more responsibility and appreciation / respect by the day. I feel for the first time in a while that I have some direction in my career.

    I have also launched into a fitness regime that is making me feel physically amazing as well. Hopefully this will lead to me meeting a fabulous partner (I am still living in hope.. Slim pickings at 40 though…).

    I think this actually might be my time to thrive. Looking forward to what else it brings.

  13. So that will be Sun, Merc, Mars, Neptune and Chiron in Pisces, then? Dang!

    ….and I have Moon, Mars, MC, and Chiron in Pisces, natally. Gonna be a Fish Fest! Ha ha! I have actually been eating a lot of fish, lately. Have always loved fish.. No substance abuse benders for me, but have been considering a romantic/sexual bender but haven’t done it yet, ’cause seems like it will be playing with fire. It’s not just that the guy is much younger, it’s like I don’t think I should distract myself with this… as I’m an emotionally sensitive person.

    Trying to keep it together, though. Staying grounded and organized because I might be getting laid off my job in June. I need to plan and be practical, but I have a tendency to go into a fantasy world……I guess I can try to use ‘dreaming’ to figure out what to do next about work and making a living, because it could get pretty dire…..
    Crab rising, so Saturn is transiting my 5th house, but I have Aqua Sun, so if going just by that, Saturn would then be transiting my 10th house, so maybe that’s why the crossroads with work?
    Also, I’m a bit burned out on my job, but can’t afford to quit it and can’t afford to be laid off either, but may have no choice. Hopefully, eventually, this will be a blessing……I’m bracing myself, though. It’s going to be financial ruin for awhile…. :(

    • Oh, the other thing with all this Pisces is that I’ve been practicing guitar again and singing and listening to a lot of music. Music has been a big healer for me lately.
      ‘The Guy’ ties into this a bit, as he’s really into music too….Hmmmmm…..

  14. That Neotune is sexting my sun so I’m all empathy gushing at the moment. Caring and going out of my way channeling a soft brand of Libran paternal nurture. It’s taking over work god help me. Been the volunteer taxi ferrying an injured coworkers to and from work. The last couple of weeks have been the most positive since saturn zap. Working on career now and finally starting back on a healthier physio reg and sleep schedule. Still tough emotionally as many of my favorite people you wish were here to help you with a softer landing have disappeared really hurts. I’m good at isolating myself from the world but that imbedded me deeper. The takeaway for me was accepting my own downfall, purge on your own, brave your past, shed the weight. Do it alone. But be brutally honest with myself. I guess that’s just maturing.

  15. Lots of extinction going on. In the place of that lots of super hyper powered personal development, casting off of old habits that didnt help me – some were forcefully removed from me, some of them I kicked to the curb. The biggest manifestation of Saturn in Scorpio for me (cusp of my 5th where Jupiter is), has been the effects in realizing I need to choose a different type of partner. The last ex poof and disappeared – which hurt me a lot at first – but am realizing was a blessing in disguise. Also letting go of lots of notions I had of what I thought I wanted in a relationship, man, etc. Back to basics, and it never felt SO good. Ive cut down on so much – foods, friends, indulgences, habits, etc, and Ive never felt freer.

  16. Astromantic similar to Aromantic. Love it!

    Had the weekend at the yoga ranch at the beach. Nearly 12 months since i have been there with Aquaman & CowGirl & kelpies x 2.
    The golden sunset friday night was spectacular, and the 1st time i didn’t record it whilst there, duh double what were you thinking as i have photo’ed maybe 200, 365 is the target to be made into a frieze.
    After the sun went down the moon glowed red & orange. On he deck with a delicious red & alors, the lights went out. Electrical blackout for 40 mins.
    The grid blown by lightening. The hurricane lamps came out, the moon almost made ‘the stair way to heaven reflection but was crescent in the
    sign of…da da the Cow. Sitting next to an Aqua = electricity.
    It was a ‘family’ reunion of my husband & wife. With astro on side.
    Back in civilisation & lo & behold, the moon may have been red due to the asteroid and/ormeteor shower!
    Lightening hit the vatican the day the pope resigned due to criminal pursuit & applied for accountability in financial matters & child abuse.
    That explains the very dark deep circles under his eyes apart from his liver being shot.
    My loaded 8th house is loving this stuff and you say it’s 5 months in??
    No wonder a frog has taken up residence for the Cleansing it portrays
    and to call in the rain.
    Have an interesting, fun, if not, make it so, week.
    x

  17. I think I’ve got pms, I don’t have time to listen to the same old issues people keep banging on about. I’ve got no interest in a lover/whatever, not even in my dreams I’m feeling nothing for nobody…for me I’ve got my head down at work and have had a promotion and I’ve upped my exercise workout to at least once a day, I’d like to do more…I’m so ready to remove people out of my life that are out of place. P plate drivers give me the shits but I think everyone has that feeling…i am ready to take control and I’ve come to realise that I’m just as great as the next person, but just that little bit more motivated to achieve…bring it on!

  18. The wookie outfit from a previous post has crawled up onto her head.

    Lots of change since December, let go of year’s worth of romantic fantasising about a man. Removed self from online dating site I was using as distraction.

    Big shifts in self awareness relating to work. Being authentically me, rather than trying to do things the way others do, results in greater success. Also valuing myself more – no more ridiculous discounts.

    Making a big move out of the city to a small country town. Shedding furniture along the way.

    Great appreciation of my family and friends.

    Seems to be all about letting go – of fantasy, lack of belief in self, possessions, same old same old thinking – and opening up to new opportunities. Feeling very excited by it all, even though I don’t know what’s coming.

  19. Frankly, I’m totally over the moon about how things have been since Saturn entered Scorpio. It’s taken a bit of adjustment but frankly I am all kinds of into it. Right now Saturn is chilling on top of my Pluto (well, pretty close, it’s about to retrograde back over it) and that is quite intense but meh, I’m down with it.

    Career type stuff has gone leaps and bounds. Financial related stuff is well on the mend. All more or less owing to the results of the inner-work that Saturn currently commands. I’ve had a ‘different’ but nevertheless phenomenal love affair with someone I never thought I’d become attracted to, a fellow astrologer as well!! It’s definitely quite dynamic and I’m not sure where it stands right now, but I’m quite keen on going deeper into it under the right circumstances. Amazing things have come of it, the intellectual, spiritual, and inwardly connections are unlike anything I’ve ever known, and I absolutely love it.

    One thing I’ve had to deal with is death, via the sudden and tragic passing of a friend. I’ve channeled a lot of the resulting energy into reworking a piece of music I’d left behind. Here it is for your enjoyment ^_^

    https://soundcloud.com/omaudiophilik/i_impermanence

    x
    (((OM

  20. Saturn in Scorpio is STILL in my 7th house, Saturn has been in my 7th house since Dec 2009 – aka the dawn of time. So far the biggest change from the effects of Libra transiting that house and swapping into Scorpio is my inability to have casual or one night affairs and a general steady feeling in my soul which I can’t quite ascribe to anything else. I like it, I like Saturn though it’s my friend because I have no earth in my chart and too much Sag making me flighty an annoying but some heavy Saturn stuff going which makes me comfortable with the energy.

    I had exactly a week of respite from Pluto and Uranus, both of them finally off my ASC (ass-cendent) but I’m taking the first hit from Pluto Sq my natal Venus, this one is going to be epic, I’m tired already. Limbering up for Uranus Opp my Venus too, just for extra fun. I already know how it’s going to go, time to say goodbye to the Plutonic love of my life once and for all. Feel like someone has their hands in my heart and they’re rooting about looking for all the threads that tie me to him, ready for the chop.

    • Ugh. I’ve got loads of outer planet transits going on too. I survived Pluto trine Venus, Pluto square AC, Pluto square Mars, and Pluto square Pluto, and am currently going through Pluto square Mercury, and finishing up my Pluto Uranus opposition. I only keep half an eye on Uranus. Uranus is so weird and I like it but there’s just no use in trying to predict or sweat Uranus, am I right?

      I love the intensity. I know its kind of sick, but I have Pluto conjunct two personal planets. Maybe that’s it? Do any kind of art? Find a place where you can be uncensored, that’s all I can find as a heads-up.

    • Hi Charley- Here ‘s to clear, strong boundaries, steering far away from intrigue – speaking kindly of others even while BS detector is set to high alert! My kid’s dad is mega Plutonian. He knows he is losing his facade of control. Money was used to shame/blame in my family of origin and with him. No more. Waiting for the Uranus opp Venus light show! LOL! Also sorting out generations worth of photos and heirlooms. Pisces starts in my 4th- trying to put away the Invisibilty Cloak.

  21. four months? You are kidding me. It feels like a different dimension. since october i have gotten sober, one simple act that alters everything for the better. i have lost two thirds of my old friends, possibly due to not partying anymore and become a lot less willing to take shit in any way shape or form.

    but hey i still love fashion, models, cute boys, perfume, noise, music, gossip and these days the cool crowd are all down at aa anyway. But yes, BIG shift since october. Dare i say it: maturing

  22. Saturn thru my 5th house Libra was me getting tough love in matters of love & romance, and I really started feeling repressed at some points. I felt much better once it moved in Scorpio (also 5th h), but now I notice I’m more discriminating with relationships.

    It also opposes my Mars in Taurus (11th h) and square my Jupiter in Aqua (9th h). I’ve been slower to emotionally react to things… I sit on it, think/feel it over, and proceed with a sense of decisivess than before. My energy also been more positively focused.

  23. scorpio in 1st and 12th house… i feel like im going crazy. haven’t felt any evolution since october, but since the beginning of february it’s like i have no hold on my normal life anymore. i hope that saturn in retro will make this all calm down a bit…

      • ‘It’s like I have no hold on my life anymore’

        Honey. It’s the zap zone speaking to you. Don’t cling onto ‘normal’ normal doesn’t exist the only thing consistent is change. EMBRACE IT and you will thrive. Aries in Uranus Capricorn in Pluto and Pisces in Neptune. EMBRACE IT!!!!

        x

  24. Yes, this is tough. Saturn sitting on my north node, exactly square my uranus/chiron opposition, locking down the whole fixed square in my natal chart. Feel like I’m staring at a wall that’s too high to get over, too low to get under. It’s like the zombies of the past have just decided to completely move in and take over; trying to hang on to what’s left of me, which doesn’t feel like much. Or maybe let go of whatever was me. But how/where?

  25. I have shed a lot since October, physical and emotional, although it doesn’t feel like “success.” I dropped two delusional relationships and I continue to fantasize, but I am not acting on any crap impulse any longer – two people are in a relationship, not just one person trying to make it all right. And this resonates on finances as well. I decluttered and then went on what felt like a spending bender and now have no desire to spend at all. Savings plans are on my mind. Saturn is transiting my 2nd and I def do feel progress on the self-esteem front although I also share WOOHOO’s Saturn in Libra hangover. 5 days into my retirement from smoking. I rather like Saturn in my 2nd/Scorpio. After 1st house Libra transit, I realized how obsessive I am. And now I am challenged to pick my obsessions, because Saturn and Pluto both know I am obsessive. Its pain staking work, but not the kind that will be blown about by circumstance. The only person to decide what I am worth is me.

  26. I don’t know.. things have change dramatically since October, new job, back to my area that I love, maybe some “some” health / diet changes but I am so tense. Frustrated and just not energized. I am sitting around a little bored. I went to a concert last night, alone, that I am glad I went to. I lost the friends I met since December.. I don’t have any patience with them. I just got the feeling that if I didn’t follow their lead they became nasty. I step out and far away. Sorry.. I don’t follow a lead. It is my time and I do what I want. I can be fun to be around because I just enjoy being around people but don’t push me into a corner because I didn’t do exactly what you wanted. Nope…

    Still struggling with the “connection” I have with the toro/gem. Searching through myself as to why I am still connected. It just has to be there to help me learn more. He was very good for me and still is even though we haven’t seen each other since November. He is really pulling a lot of new things out of me to add to my approach towards things.

    xo!!

    • I don’t enjoy being around bossy friends either. I think if a Virgo is quiet or an introvert, extroverts think it
      s fair game to try to control them or force them to follow their lead.
      I prefer going to movies, art galleries etc alone, so I can really enjoy the experience.
      You have Virgo in 11th House also, correct?
      We love eccentric friends but do not want to follow or be pushed around them or anyone for that matter.

      • Yes.. SR.. 11th house Virgo with a smidge of 12th house. That is actually where my sun is locate in the 12th. Not to mention I have Pluto, Uranus and Mercury in the 11th.

        So, when you say we don’t follow.. you are exactly correct.. and being pushed.. Nope.. not gonna happen.. I walk away! I consider it a threat to my boundaries! I do not push others so don’t push me. I don’t know if that is my Libra rising talking (ie I don’t push) but I let people be themselves until they corner me!

        xo!!

  27. What a lovely thread :-) reading the posts is such a delight — good or bad, it is the journey that matters.. Hmm..I have been busy with clearing mental space – dumping stale resentments, dumping delusions, trying to meditate.. That is all :-)

  28. Four months of the scorping and my entire universe has changed!!! My marriage has ended (after 2 years of misery), I’m merely weeks away from final property settlement. Examined & acknowledged the last 20 years of my life, changed that which needed to change through a whole lot of both traditional and non-traditional therapy. Cried a river, raged against the storm, settled in my sadness for a while and came out the other side of it all – better, stronger & more myself than I’ve ever been in my life.

    My “first true love” turned up early last year and that affair lasted a few months – heartbroken I battled on through the last 5 months while he dealt with his own demons and another difficult relationship. And now… he’s back… better, stronger, more himself than ever and the most beautiful thing is that we each dealt with our own “stuff” separately so that now we can be 100% committed to each other – honesty, kindness & normality are our common goals.

    Carpe Diem!

  29. October, huh? Excuse me, can you tell me the time?

    And Father Saturn in my Soul Sector says, “The time is Now.”

    Pluto in my Values and Worth of Body and Possessions sector adds, “And it is always going to be Now, until i make you strip yourself of all you gloried in, and know that it is not your true glory.”

    I haven’t evolved enough to tell you what i’ve learned; i’m still evolving. I feel as though i know nothing until i accept what i was born knowing.

    Merc and Chiron in Aries asks hovering Uranus whether it could be as easy as a click of the fingers to just Get It. I only get thunder in response.

      • I had a dream of you at some point – a conversation with your last avatar. Now, I see your cock. Ha!

        I gutted my wardrobe and replenished and kind of feel like it’s not me. But nothing *is* me but me.

        • racing off now but just want to say i so know what you mean about the wardrobe…”What is me right now?” Don’t know just wear it. People are complimentary but the whole thing feels strange.

          Funny dream :D

    • this is magnificent. and the thunder agrees. as does the cock… they kinda say the same thing, don’t they? a big fat YES. xoxo

  30. i think i’m so in the thick of it that i can’t see it. 2 degs off a saturn-saturn square. depressive gloom remains the dominant state of mind, punctuated by electric bolts of brilliance that seem to actually get results from whatever passing transit. retrograde. so back past uranus, venus, mars, to station on chiron. sounds fun. it will be 23 minutes past my moon but i’m counting the moon transit as DONE. well, besides prog moon sitting directly on natal saturn. it’s funny, i remember whinging on here months ago how i had issues with fixed moons because they aspected saturn last and so waah waah. the taurus moon that just past was so interesting- very low UNTIL it hit 13 degrees- then i toughened up and was like, “let’s just get on with this.” what it’s all about, really.

    but honestly, it’s all background at the moment. the bones. neptune-mercury square was exact on wed… i can’t even read a paragraph without my eyes swimming. the fog is so thick. plus a feeling of impending doom from pluto square hitting the degree in exactly one week. interesting, evolutionary times. not so much fun.

  31. I am so dreading going to work tomorrow. The scopes say I will know how to deal with f-wits at work. But I don’t feel like I know how to deal with them. I know after all my Pluto transits, that I don’t get to pick which parts of me have a right to life. I have to be whole and authentic. That’s all I know. And I feel really scared and anxious about all social aspects of my work right now. Because I know I need to communicate better and I don’t feel like I know how. Like I am either going to flip my shit or gimp out and run – I need something middle ground. Saturn in 10th house Cancer confidence crisis. Not enjoying the retrograding…

  32. Saturn retrograde in Scorpio at 11am my time? Cue meltdown right on time. Broken glass everywhere. I’m too old for this. Merde, indeed.

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