Astro-Query: Should She Pursue The Polyamorous Sagg Guy?
Hey Magical Mystic,
You warned me 
that the love signs were coming for my Taurus rising and I fear you were right. I have developed a delicious crush on a demi sagg-god with a total ‘manwhore’ side (definition: has many lovers around the city). He is a stunning encapsulation of everything I desire in a MAN and despite all my brain screaming RUN FAST my body, heart and soul are quite simply taken by him! I think he likes me but this might also be one of his manwhoring powers in action – time will tell!
Get this – he is a Sagittarius, with Sagg rising, and Mercury, Venus and Neptune in SAGG!!? I’ve read your sagg blogs and I think there may be no hope for such man to ever commit?!
Shall I continue with this crush or jump ship now before i turn into a love zombie?
Flying kisses,
Gemini 1001
My Dear Gemini 1001,
If anyone can deal with a manwhore of a Saggo guy, it would be a Gem girl with Taurus Rising, i get that. But something to think about: As a multiple Sagg, he is about to have Uranus AND Jupiter activating him. He is going to want more freedom, if anything. And you are becoming Saturn Girl so far as love is concerned. Could it be that this person is the perfect character with whom to learn self-reliance, what you do/don’t want in a romance? Eg; the town bike lol. Like an actual red beacon in the middle of a stormy Saturn in Scorpio sea saying ‘focus on what you really want – does this seem like it would be about genuine intimacy and mutual respect?’
Some people – often the Mutable signs – are genuinely nomadic and not into committment – it’s not even personal, just them. Then again they do say that a reformed rake makes the best partner and maybe reforming him could be your Saturn project? You could build a small shrine in the corner of your bathroom and set daily affirmation goals for ‘getting’ him. You could hire a retired F.B.I detective to trawl through his sporadic texts and come up with a coherent picture of this guy. You could befriend all his other lovers under some strange guise and extract information. You could rise at 4.30am to do your obliques and check to see if he updated his status with anything that sounds like he has had sex again yet.
Or you could find the middle ground between steely Saturn Girl and insane drooling Love Zombie; relax, see where this goes and how it pans out? Before you do, please read my post Secrets Of The Saggo Guy – Sex, Destiny & Chicks AND remember that Saggos i know swear that horse whispering techniques work on them. The only ones i can remember is that you have an open hand flat with an apple on it, the bridle hidden behind your back and that you always keep the stable door open.You’ve got Jupiter in your sign – you can get practically anything you desire.
Got it?
What does everyone else think?
NO.
as above!
as above!
Yes! Live dangerously.
as a multi sagg (female) i can tell you to run fast and dont look back! Really commitment is not our deal…
hahah Straight up!! love it x
he sounds gay to me dear …
tears ahead … u know that … !
in triplicate.
That’s wayyy too much sagg even for this.Aries.with.sagg rising. But your Gemini sun is going to be what helps you. U gotta let him roam but on ocassion call him on his bull shit in a lighthearted humorous way. Trust me sagg don’t like emotional displays
they fall for sugar cubes…
Yes they do. But only if you’re willing to give them the sugar side of you.. while hiding your desire to tame him hidden and keeping the legs..I mean gates open for him to come and go. Source: Aries woman with sagg rising but moon and Venus in Taurus so my sagg is learning discipline.
Yes they do. But only if you’re willing to give them the sugar side of you.. while hiding your desire to tame him and keeping the legs..I mean gates open for him to come and go. Source: Aries woman with sagg rising but moon and Venus in Taurus so my sagg is learning discipline.
Absolutely if you want to have very quick sex probably standing up and then lose a lot of weight fast because of stress from him hitting on half your circle of friends. i like what mystic said once about these men – present a moving target. Like you could run fast past him with a bottomless rastafarian running outfit (they like ethnic) or tell him that you are about to go away on a sea shepherd boat for five years, out of mobile phone range, to save whales. then when you start stalking him the next month just say the boat sank
lol
Hahaha.
TLS in brilliant form, as ever.
Genius
Lessons galore ms Gemini 1001, I think go for it I also think you already are and we cannot control matters of the heart you could walk away but you probably won’t. MM you are so smart sometimes we meet people as a means to understanding ourselves.
go go go!
heheheh my Sagg moon is gwaking a lil
xx Love the ‘go go go’ cheers
There was no mentioning of your SAG MOON. Oh cheque please it’s all over!!!! Keep us updated won’t you xxxxx
Hahaha! Has anyone successfully told you what to do before? Or are you just seeking input to mull over before you do what you want anyway?
There is a time for husbands and a time for manwhores.
Enjoy your time xx
“there is a time for manwhores and a time for husbands” – love it
hilar, Mille. and true ! I wouldn’t trade all my years of fun with multiple Sag men for anything – but I would damn sure understand goin’ in – it’s just hitchin’ a ride to the festival, that’s all … have a blast xx
Oh my goooooooood god NO, my worst nightmare incarnate. Sounds like you’ve already made your mind up though to be honest! Good luck and enjoy it for whatever it ends up being.
Put your hand in the door, and then use the other hand to slam the door shut as hard as you can. Does this hurt ?
Not as much as this man is about to hurt you. What a train wreck.
yes. this.
lol ! i love it !
*like*
funny as and soo true. lsiten to your head not your heart or other nether regions. dats pussy speak can’t be trusted when in full bloom
ohhh noo I havent made up my mind. My Gemini sign and Sagg moon goes ‘jump in have fun, what eva happens’ but my taurian rising says ‘stand still and dont let him near your paddock girl’.
I think mystics balanced approach is sound.. Just not somthing Gemini’s are always good at :p
xx
‘stand still and dont let him near your paddock girl’. hahaha
Hey Gemini 1001, if your life currently allows for a little adventure – i.e. you’ve not just taken up a new job, are about to move to a different city, have recently developed something that needs treatment or so – why not indulge yourself? Otherwise, if you’re really under pressure, stressed by demanding bosses, in high career mode or hearing your biological clock ticking loudly, I wouldn’t. It does sound fairly challenging, but maybe you’re just the girl to deal with it! I wish you good luck and – if you give the guy a try, why not enjoy it?
No guilting. If it doesn’t work out (though I hope it will if you try!), just morph into a butterfly and move on.
Dearest Mystic & mysticlets: an educative aside. Polyamory is not lustwhoring. It means choosing to openly have honest, loving, intimate relationships with several people, and sex may or may not be involved. Ie not deceitful.
Thus: is mr several lovers also mr deceitful? That is the clincher, if you are drawn to him. PS Mystic you are so right. Mutables bust out some seriously excellent nomadic shipping. Its real good to embrace this
Sweetly, VLS
Good point, VLS, I have a friend who is in a polyamorous relationship. It works for them and there are (apparently) no secrets. One of my friend’s rules is never get involved in a deceitful relationship. Men who find out she is polyamorous sometimes assume it means she’s happy to be someone’s mistress and that is never, ever the case. In that respect the ‘moral code’ for want of a better phrase seems far stricter than some so-called conventional relationships I know.
WORD XXX
“Polyamory is not lustwhoring. It means choosing to openly have honest, loving, intimate relationships with several people, and sex may or may not be involved. Ie not deceitful.”
Agreed. This has nothing to do with poly relationships.
Completely. Honesty.
agreed.
must make clear the terms of the contract.
I had a 6 week fling with a younger double Sag in my 40th year. I had a great time and that was it! There was definitely some karmic astro, but during the 6 weeks I had the startling realisation that it was temporary and that was totally cool. Shed some tears when he moved on but I also moved on quickly, a changed woman!
I have a spot of hay fever and I read this as ‘daily affirmation goats’
Hmm… do you think you are somehow the one who will ‘tame’ him? If that’s your strategy and he gets wind of it, he’ll toss you a few crumbs here and there just to keep you around while using you as a kind of LinkedIn to meet women he hasn’t fuqed yet. (soz for criminal use of bad mixed metaphors).
Are you looking for a husband? If you want Mr Stable (pun intended) you can have mine. Marriage is a crock of shit. (apologies for inadvertently offending all those whose marriages are not a crock of shit)
I’d shag this guy in a nanosecond, as long as I was armed with industrial strength condoms. Never mind the morals – I’m a Piscean – but it’s a health issue (Mars in Virgo). Ew.
Otherwise, have fun, protect your heart, Gem 1001, and please keep us posted xx
Soz had to laugh at the industrial strength condoms. Yes, use two even.. but then how fun would that be?
I know. By the time you’d got the full-body white disposable suit on, complete with paper shoes – if, say, you’d gone back to his place and didn’t know how long it had been since he’d hoovered – the moment would probably have evaporated
Unless he has some new fangled way of seductively whispering “HazMat” in one’s ear??? haha..
I KNOW. But then maybe his unhoovered place would provide the appropriate sobering context? I’m not sure. As a Sagg, he could very well live in a well-appointed tree house/yurt wafting of patchouli mixed with pheromones..obviously the man has some kind of er..talent.
Yes! The Sagg house
Perhaps he rents the verandah overlooking the sea, for a peppercorn rent, having charmed the Virgo / Cap house owner whose speciality is hoovering to surgical standards while simultaneously apportioning pro rata rent payments to the Sagg and his ‘houseguests’.
And yes, clearly I need to get back to work.
Thought the same thing FA about the doubling up. Might be necessary…
NO,
Love the picture! I say play hard to get! Send mixed signals! Have fun torturing the Saggo guy! It will be more fun than having your heart broken! (Is this my Leo Mars and Merc talking?).
In my previous life here on earth, I was in volved with a sag, taurus rising scorpio moon guy. He also had venus and mars in aqua. My asc. was the midpoint of his venus mars, I have scorp. moon and aries sun.
We made an awesome friendship out of the energy that endured for many years.
Since I wasn’t sexually attracted to him,( and everyone just couln’t understand why not) working the “every guy wants what he can’t have” theory.Life was always exciting. even with out the physicality.
I love Saggos too! Great lovers, so much fun, charming, adventurous, etc. However, they don’t commit. Period. So, if you think you can leave it in fun mode, go for it …
Those sorts of guys love spreading it around and won’t really change for anyone. For guys, it’s like an addiction. If you’re a monogamous sort, maybe best you moved on or you could just be in it for the fun and see what happens.
So plainly spoken but so true.
good to get a male perspective – thanks!
Umm… Your Gemini thrives on this kind of excitement, but I think Taurus will trip you up. When the proverbial hits the fan, Taurus will want to HOLD ON & I think you’re heading for the mix master. R U N would be my vote. You’ve got the facts on the table, right there in front of you. This is a World of pain =(
Plus, think of all the real opportunities that will fly right by, whilst you’re tangled up in a ball of invisible wool. Don’t do it to yourself.
RUN
the fact you are even asking means no x
Yes. When you choose for yourself you extract the entire juice of what happens: you feel, you think and you learn, unaided.
“you extract the entire juice of what happens”. Love this Mille. Am putting it on a post-it next to my desk as it applies to all my stuff at the mo x
Agree. Simple and true.
I’m a female with Sagg rising, and Mercury, Venus and Neptune all in Sagg. I don’t commit either but the ones I take seriously are those who feed my Virgo moon. What’s his moon sign?
Don’t go there GF! And if you think you are going to change him think again.
No, just no.
But if you must, enjoy the ride and best wishes for a quick recovery!
How can this ‘man-whoring’ guy be everything you desire in a man??? I think he’s playing to your ego, I will be the one who will change him, ergo I am special. You are unique and if he wants only you he’ll let you know.
Saggo or not – and I know some committed Saggos – you are running the risk of having your heart broken badly. Unless you are also a manwhore, you are not coming to this for same reasons. Move on or as others have said, if you must, go into it for the sex and with an intention not to take it further.
this is the long answer to leogroover’s expert advice – RUN!
thx mitra for the accolade being of mature years unfortunatley I am an ex spert ha
I reckon we’ve all learnt a few lessons a long the way. I already find this man boring.
… and Gem should apply lateral thinking to her situation and just get herself a nice new vibrator
This? Really? It’s the ZZ and The Scorping, and this is what you’re spending precious time and energy pondering, Gem 1001? Surely you have more pressing matters to attend to, don’t you?
My two cents: Get it together, sister.
Ohhh nice connect between the Scorping and the ZZ!!! Love advise is always helpful me thinks!
But hold reigns sister this is but one element in my life and does not encspulate the essence or entire time/energy of me
xx
Right: of course you have more going on! Of course, absolutely, most definitely.
ROFL
Well in my experience the manwhore, womanwhore types are actually the worst lovers. Thats why they flit around, no sexual or pleasure skills. They always attract the surface thinkers who imagine that whats on the outside goes right through. WRONG. So if its the appearance that appeals then try turning that around and you may find that the most satisfying, exciting lovers are the ones least likely to be the ‘trying hard to look like one’. I remember a similar character amongst my group of pals. Every girl who slept with him was disappointed. They would say he came in 30 seconds, burst in to tears and dissappear to the next conquest.
I did learn this lesson when younger. I now know that the desirable girl is the one wearing a cardi, wearing sensible shoes and quietly sitting on a drink. The whorewoman with the belt size skirt, the uplift bra and bandy legs just makes me shiver, euwwww. So sorry, its a no from me.
Testify! Love it.
Cardi and sensible shoes? Do you have a lot of Cap in your chart, davidl?
Well, I have saturn in cap in the 7th, but my remarks are based more on experience.
Yep, I’d say you’re right. Trawling back through memories of my younger days I’m willing to bet the Sagg is what we used to call a dud root.
david. darling, I do love you but please kill me if I ever associate sensible shoes with good sex.
Socks and birkenstocks…mmmm, ooolala x
Make me unsee that
agreed D – people do NOT need to flaunt it
PS venus conjunct pluto – I know!
I’m with you! Yikes! Bad bad pictures in my very visual head
The man-whores I knew we bad in bed. They never were in a relationship long enough to learn what to do right.
They are too self-centered to care about their lovers feeling/needs.
I agree. there’s a reason he flits about.
Personally, I’d flirt, and toy with him for fun. But never fall for him. Stay wise to the games he plays.
The manho I know is amazing in bed so close friends have devulged. Personally, I just couldn’t sleep with someone everyone has had. yuk.
Okay…anything is poss right? But as a sag sun/moon with gorgeous gemini/taurus guy half my age flirting with me- yes flattered but im on the run! Have another taurus a little younger showing interest, but if im not into them BIG TIME forget it. Im mid life agr and have accepted that freedom is my first love LOL
i think it also depends on the ages of the people involved. a 24 yro sagittarius muso sleeping around a bit is very different proposition to a 42 yro sleaze bucket.
Am not being ageist, just realistic. if young he could be just sowing his oats and gemini 1001 could be his soulmate?
more details
but also i agree with scorporation – who has the time for this right NOW?!
Right?! I mean, fuq: recess is over! Get focused about your life/cultivate some authenticity & priorities– dick off at your own expense.
recess is over. love it.
on fire as always too TLS
and scoporation call the fire brigade
Point made well
WERE IN THE ZAP ZONE SQUARE TRINE EVERYTHING BLOODY CRAZY ASTRO
It may seem fun and easy but down the track….
if he’s neptune in sag he’s probabably not a 24 yro muso…
Think he might be the same sagg I’ve been sleeping with this last month. I say don’t do it. He really is a manwhore and just travelling the world clocking up std.’s. He’s good for a few shags but that’s it. Use a condom!
yes, i agree!
LOL
Are you also interested in fooling around with his friends Herpes and Crabs?
(joking!!!!)
(Sorry, I have Venus in Capricorn so am very old fashioned and probably boring)
Damn funny
Herpes could be a good asteroid name, yes?
I have a few friends w Venus in Cap and they are the most discerning people I know, it’s like they were born with a love standard, no matter what else is going on in their chart they rarely settle for losers. Or they’ll give a loser w potential a time limit to lift his/her game, and as soon as the clock strikes, they’re out of there.
But you have a great name ‘Porkchop’
Fuq him once and get it out of your system.
Yup, sadly sometimes that’s all they’re good for but then that is what might hook him, lol
Okay Gemini 1001 i think we need you to live blog this seduction. Get it over with. He will be a case study/ What does he do for a living? Can you go to his workplace now? Do you have a horse? The Moon in Leo is quite good for dramatic gestures. Horse? Ballgown? Wind machine? Or is he more of a ‘last girl left standing at the bar’ kind of a guy?
Lol i just remembered a post from years back about a woman who worked in television and her saggo fiance got his “stalker” pregnant.
Leave the poor horse out of it! (joke)
Hilarious, my saggo ended up stalking me through his new kinda sorta witch in sheep’s clothing girlfriend, sugar mommy that he moved in with.
Yes, you must live blog this or update, so curious now as to the beginning, middle and end. I say no but if you do keep the higher emo’s and be busier than him. I have taurus sun, gem in venus/ mars, saggo rising and it was the taurus that got me deeply wounded.
I’m going to vote NO based on the fact that you’re asking if such a man were ever to commit. Btw, I agree with the distinction on polyamory vs manwhoring, those are two totes different things.
In any case, this guy sounds like he’d be a great ride. You know he’s the huge, mega-dangerous, once in your life type of roller coaster you go on for the experience and NOTHING else. Certainly not setting down goals as such..if the soulmating happens, it happens. I think however that at this point, the fact that he has psychic pull on you already means you’re going to be on a different paradigm than Mr. Rolling Stone Who Gathers No Moss over here.
TLS also made a great point about age and stage of life being a factor.. If you go for it, do it because it’s an adventure with no strings attached, unless miraculously he offers them. However I do find that men with this kind of a thinly spread dating set up are already of the position that they wish to go no further.
Whatever you do, guard your QI like the precious resource it is.
What have you got to lose?
I have been seeing the local rake/player/manwhore/playboy/ladiesman/ for the past 12 months or so. He has Venus in Cap oddly and is well into middle age. And is apparently faithful. (of this I am not 100 per cent convinced). He is a terrible flirt and upon discovering all of this I told myself there are worse things in life than a broken heart. It has been AWESOME for getting my AWESOME on because all the female attention/raking has forced me to release alot of past angst, and I mean a lot, I have insecurities crop up that would go back God only knows how many lifetimes and have been gathering dust since, it has also forced me to REALLY like myself, and I mean REALLY, outside and in, because these sorts of men and their ‘friends’ (followers/love zombies)’ gnaw at your self esteem like piranhas at a Bond baddie. He rakes them in, keeps them in and they keep coming, they challenge me and he needs them like a junkie needs a needle. It’s been a wild wild ride. The only way to tame a rake is to have them fall for you. You have no control over this and it’s very hard to let go of that need for control. And that’s been my biggest lesson. But am I happier than I was 12 months ago? You bet. Am I stronger? You bet. Do I know myself better than 12 months ago? You bet. And do I like her? Absofuqinglylutely
I’ve noticed that man rakes underneath it all are really not that interesting. They have groupies instead of hobbies because they can’t focus long enough on anything worthwhile.
Thank you
Love it? You bet!!
go for it – good on you!
I like the tangled in invisible wool metaphor a lot.
Like there you were focussed on knitting a beautiful soft pink cashmere scarf for yourself to wear to the horseshow when…
Wait. Did you say he looks kinda like Brad ?…still no.
If your heart’s in it then it may get squished and badly bruised and wouldn’t you like to share it with someone more honourable ?
If it’s about ego and catching the guy, I’ve seen chicks pursue this kind of dude and they just come off looking like men and their testosterone
Ievels go up until it looks like a soap opera of same sex hijinks and the guy gets less turned on cuz he likes to pursue and sometimes the girls do it BECAUSE there are OTHER women involved
and it brings up some kind of competitive, my mommy was jealous of me bull, blah.
hahahahah Right on!!!
“Like there you were focussed on knitting a beautiful soft pink cashmere scarf for yourself to wear to the horseshow when…”
Too funny! =D
Ahh, give it whirl Gem! And while you’re at it, be as free as you want to be too. Experiment and enjoy.
My first thought is when in doubt, DON’T.
As a fellow Gem (with Merc and Venus in Taurus as well as Sag rising and Neptune) I can empathise and I still say it’s not a great idea. This reminds me of someone I was into years ago and dated briefly. We were having fun and like you my body, heart and mind were “YES PLEASE”.
My soul though knew it was a bad idea so I ended it before it went too far. Great memories and no regrets. I agree with Ad Astra up above too in that your Taurus might trip you up (maybe that’s why the deliberating).
Mars also just went into Sag which might be contributing to all this. Did that activate your moon maybe?!?
Good luck hon and let us know how you go xx
Thanks Empress your words are well considered
x
With Sagittarius men you just have to beat them at their own game. YOU are the captain of the gypsy caravan! And you applaud Free Love, Experimental Sex, and Manic Adventure as a Modus Vivendi. Commitment is SO irrelevant, anyway.
true but I find it disturbing as well that anyone would want to try unless it was true to their character, that is how people get stuck and then blame the other person when they were lying or pretending in the first place then loose the game. If you are gaming then you gamble. Truth just is.
He has just had a major Pluto transit to all the Sagittarius planets.
To be blunt, why would a freewheeler want to commit to one person ?
Commitment would be clipping his wings and he needs to range and to dream.
Taurus needs stability like it needs blood and solid ground.
All my astro instincts say ‘No!’ Forget commitment from him, because the one thing he needs is an open door and a big horizon.
He may be insanely attractive, but he is very unlikely to offer anything long-term .
You can have fun but have the tissues near at hand.
Open door and big horizon. Beautifully put……. I need those too, even though I have not a single planet in Sagittarius….
I’m neither for nor against this. If he cracks onto you I’m all for it…. If he doesn’t then forget about it. Don’t make the move – if you make a move you’re too invested to be with a manwhore.
Holy shit! I just solved my own problem right there!!!!! (Although I’m not seeing anyone right now to implement it…)
yeh-nice advice!
Dang… doncha love that? Such a bummer.
Been there – done that – NO CHANCE……..Just so you know………Never in a gazillion lifetimes will he be anything other than a manwhore…..:)
this whole topic makes me think about animality and gender conditioning, the fact that a lot of people find it highly attractive in men who are “manwhores” out of some primal urge alpha seed association coupled with the psychology of perhaps being special in the eyes of someone like this, in demand equates to self worth via another validation of sex etc.
terribly scorpio, but I would be asking motive on this. your motive not his. his seems crystal x
Girl, if you (Gem Sun Sag Moon) are mutable enough to be wholeheartedly and honestly capable of falling so deeply and sincerely in love that you KNOW it’s forever and you will do ANYTHING for him…
…but also suddenly at 12:14pm one thursday observing something that irrevocably makes you fall out of love..
then you will enjoy this.
But you wouldn’t be asking anyone about it then, would you? It would have already happened. I think you have a touch of LZisme. See Dr Saturn, clinic open all hours.
Def true!!!
heheheh spot on about falling out of love as quickly as in love!!! hehe
As a reformed Sagg Manwhore I’d say he’s read this blog & long gone!!
But on the other hand he may like it……
No you shouldn’t do it. But you probably will! I see two problems:
One – you would like to imagine he could be monogamous for you.
Two – with Scorpio ruling your relationship area you might be susceptible to thinking he is deep when he is just emotionally retarded.
fuq n hilar andro . straight up as always. i remember you said a similar thing to me eaons ago. it hurt at the rime but so true when it sunk in. I reckon gem 1001 will do whatever she does and suffer the consequnces good and bad
in my wisdom and a touch of virgoness came over me to add up the yes’s and nos on this post.
so… drum roll please…..
its 65% No 30% go for it and 5% just too funny
hahahahah i love that your virgonass added this up as my gemini was just looking for the ‘gyst’ of it
xx
Oh dear, I am sorry if I was too rude Leogroover!
I formally apologise for all cutting statements I have made on this blog that were hurtful to anyone in fact. Please forgive me!
No No Andro you were, are and will never be rude, I needed a kick up the bum and they were posted with love as are 99.9999% of posts here,
Wow.. this is a tuff one. If he is good in bed I totally understand the need to stay with it. But if you are torturing yourself then work something out to “run”… I look back at the crap I put myself thru with manwhores and I wish I hadn’t done it. It obviously has something to do with me being single. If you can handle it and walk away without a stitch of pain.. then enjoy, learn and then move on.
Good luck!! xo!!
It sounds to me like youve been zombied before you’ve even begun (I say that with love), seriously. If you’re not not emotionally equipped for no-strings sex, or being the used and discarded toy of a manwhore, run for the hills…
agreed. Never go into a fling or affair with the intent to tame a man-whore. It won’t work. He has to change on his own freewill. It may happen.
Everyone can tell me that the stove is hot, but I’m the type who has to touch it myself and get burned, just to be sure. I dated a guy with astro just like this and got my heart broken into a million pieces. Now that I have totally recovered from love zombie addiction hell I am oddly grateful that I went there. It brought everything I do and don’t want from men into stark relief. Now I am a supercharged Amazon! Experience is the best teacher!
Yah, how do all these people know so much to say run? They’ve been there, that’s how! Even if your mind’s gone soft, the will is clearly strong. If you even need to ask, you probably need to learn the, er, hard way
I agree. Pain is your best teacher sadly. Does contemplating going out with a manwhore indicate lessons to be learned? If we are well adjusted do we find the more ‘boring’ types attractive?
Hmmm, let me think… NO!!! Women who do this one-off crazy shit with Not-There (or worth it !) men perpetuate that crap and spoil it for others everywhere who value themselves and want more from life and the other sex…. at whatever age!
I disagree. No other woman has ever spoilt my sex life or relationship choices. I make them, i define them, poorly or well. If the men follow some guidelines i don’t agree with i kindly point out the difference. Then they have a choice. A person can learn or create a new paradigm anyday. Men have brains, hearts and souls too, you know.
Bloody great reply, good use of tact, truth, and facts. Your head, dear reader/writer is saying ‘run’ for very, very, good reason the rest is just hormones and mythology, a heady mix no doubt . . . RUN.
This poly stuff is so 80s – am currently dealing with poly and FWB – associated guy – so reminiscent of the 80s!
Ouch, that is heavy Saturn in Scorp stuff, q. And as you say, a bit 80s…
Is your FWB guy still dicking you around?? I have a friend who always says the first 48 hours after setting a new boundary are always the hardest, like a kind of withdrawal.
no, the old one has come over all contrite, apologetic and remorseful – its the new one! having drinks with him and a mutual colleague, realised they are FWB, and she is poly. *groan* I called him on it, which was good for me to do. these 2 scenarios unfolded in the 24 hours in which saturn shifted sign. I’m exhausted already and we have – what – 2 years of this to go LOL
Oh god, sorry I am laughing reading this but it’s an empathetic laugh.
Maybe Saturn’s got such a busy schedule he’s cramming all your stuff in before Halloween, kind of like a summer school intensive
hahaha – totes witty Chrys – bloody saturn transiting the 8th *groans again* Seriously though, do feel like I am processing and its very different than Saturn in Libra. You?
Yep, I feel a different energy. Saturn still in my 3rd for another year but since the shift to Scorp I am WAY more intense and single minded about what I need to achieve here. Also it’s been through Pisces 8th house, so no need to elaborate further on my lessons there, lol
Am loving the conversation about your ‘dilemma’.
Methinks there is some seriously fab advice going on here, and ultimately you’ll do what ever you are gonna do.
As a “trying to be a reformed love zombie” moiself, the only things that came to mind were 1. Cwwwooaar he Sounds hot, and 2. You are already a goner if you’ve somehow got enough info about this sag to the nth degree to work out his time and place of birth. *lol*
only cos that’s what I would do. (ahem) USED to do.
Please tho, blog with updates and take care!
Surrender. Give in. Sometimes tears and heartache are far better teachers in the game of love than the fairytale romance. I think the vote is in for “run!” But with Jupiter, at least you’ll have some amazing carnival rides (and probaly some vomit & motion sickness) in terms of experiences. Other than that, you don’t need a ‘yes’ or ‘no’ from us because I think you’ve already made your decision.
I agree! xo!
You’ve got Jupiter in your sign – you can get practically anything you desire…….
Is this because Jupiter is in Gemini (as the lucky astrological sign to have it in) or because Jupiter is in Gemini 1001′s own star sign?
It could be Shamanic go thru the fire knowing you will be enlighten . No pain no gain . It will be an adventure !
Agree!
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It could be Shamanic go thru the fire knowing you will be enlighten . No pain no gain . It will be an adventure ! Transformation !
As a Sagg sun and moon gal with Leo rising… I say “hells yeah, go there!!!”
It will be so much none committal wild fun and geminis suck at commitment too, from my experience with two ex Gemini lovers (yes lovers not partners, I’m a Sagg after all).
if your heart is strong enough/ directed towards something real than shrines and affirmations are posi and powerful. but keeping it/honoring your ability WITHIN the household, within the MIND is much better for protecting yourself coupled with personal growth re saturn. it is when text messages overload, shitty attitudes at the bar and internet stalking come into play that you set yourself up for disaster. *in my opinion*
Let me qualify any relationship advice by saying I’m Venus in 12th house Virgo square Neptune. Not sure I’m realistic. BUT – every manwhore I’ve ever met is a case of horrific self-esteem issues wrapped in risky behavior. If a guy can’t decide who he likes to shag best, he can’t decide much of anything else for himself either. If you’re in to the “newness” of the experience, I don’t think you’d be looking for astro advice. If you’re into the guy, perhaps you can demonstrate what real self-esteem behaves like and hold you’re own standard?
Rereading this, Gem 1001 – suddenly realised that it describes my father perfectly – he’s sag sun, rising, mars and merc, and moon in leo. Four wives and still looking for a 5th bless him – but now in his 80s sad and alone – he chose womanising, himself and gambling over his children and financial security/responsibility. He can be lovable, witty and was insanely attractive, a total woman-magnet when young but rest assured, we defo reap what we sow!
Seen this too in accelerated time in my Sagg Sun & Merc, Venus in Scorp Ex.
It’s a free will zone
Gem 1001 do you have a sountrack/songloop for this time? Be determined to be strong and beautiful now, so you can feel beautiful and strong whatever happens, what you’re feeling is great, sexy and alive
UPDATE: I am seeing him this weekend in the safety of a group setting! ill update next week.
THANKS for all the advise, I am reading, giggling and taking it all in.
Update pending.
Much love and lightness for today
Ps – I am not sure if commitment equates to monogomy!?
Good luck and have fun!
YES please, would love an update x
Why must you possess him to enjoy him? Do we really need to trap people to derive good from them? You know what he is. Enjoy the good parts with all your being. If you serendipitously get him for longer — bonus.
– the anonymous arienscorp
This is coming from me, taurus with sagg rising, venus and mars in gemini…NO!! Although you being gem w/ taurus rising will give you an edge over the others. Never will I go out with a Sagg but he was the one that made me evolve out of love zombie land and ghost bolt to evolve or evaporate. Lessons, karmic lessons.
Mystic, I practically did all that you suggested, LOL at the end of the relationship? We hardly saw each other, was very connected, emotionally entangled and even though it’s over done in this lifetime, our charts indicate that it’s never really over because it never really started either. Been in every lifetime together too.
Go for it, of course! You can handle that, you’re a Gem and you’ve got Jupiter onside. I read this and thought I saw my twin-soul’s post – although I am Taurus Sun & Rising, this has practically been my exact situation for 9 months; and it started when Jupiter was coming on scene in Taurus. Except this Sagg used to have girls all around not town, but planet Earth – but this is changing and at said date for subtle love signs, he sent some very surprising indications for a desire to become pair-bonded, make this ‘official’ (I don’t believe in it but it’s kind of cute) and thinking of a shared future. I am obviously always careful, always re-assessing my level of attachment and in/de-pendence; but it has been a wonderfully enriching and liberating adventure and by the sounds of it, just the kind of evolution the times are calling for. Just like Mystic said – Saturn Girl in Love can rely on Saggo man to take her to all the lessons required for successful sailing through those years. Good luck, fasten your seatbelt and grab your life vest too if you have enough time.
So how did it go?
Gemini 1001 – come in please?
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Oh boy did I need to read all this! In a similar predicament with a manwhore. I’m taurus/gem rising/aqua moon. He is my arch nemesis – a cancer
(cancer rising/virgo moon). He has jupiter/uranus/neptune in Sage & I have jupiter & neptune. His astro is 4 days apart from my ex which gave me alarm bells but I decided not to hold the sins of the past against the next…So we met, 1st date blew me away, unlike any man I’d been with a loooong time, cue to less than a week later & he’s calling for help after partying like a rock star all weekend & blowing a shitload of coke up his nose..admitted to being an alcoholic as well…bow bow 
Cue the disappointment but grateful for finding out asap. Week or so later I thought well I know so that’s great but why not just use him for sex, so I did… and now I’m hooked! We’ve become FB’s and it’s only happened twice now I keep trying to resist but I can’t seem to help myself. I ended it after the 2nd time as NO amount of good sex was worth his boorish drunken behaviour but he called me last weekend & I’m trying to avoid the temptation as I KNOW better than this! Never in my life have I been so consumed by sex & it offends my sensibilities that it is HIM! I do not actually like him, he aggravates me like no other, if I could gaffer tape his mouth shut I would….but I just go wild for him & I’ve never been so out of control in my life!! It’s sheer craziness. I have no jealousy over who else he may be with, I have no desire to know anything about his life, I care nothing for him whatsoever, which is all good…and I’ve decided to just enjoy the sex & go with the flow & I hope it doesn’t last too long! I have to say that even though he sounds like an absolute horror, I have come out of this a helluva lot more sexually confident & empowered & I truly feel like I have finally come into my own.. I feel as though I am finally exalting in my womanliness & hell yes my awesomeness 
Just hope that there isn’t a big fall coming my way….
Hope it all works out well for you Gem 101.
reading this makes me wanna do it
Good luck and enjoy xx
I fell in love with a Sagg guy and we have been dating for a month. He is so amazing and perfect for me. He has sun and moon in sagg and Aries rising! so much fire. i love it. I am aries sun and virgo rising. I think Saggittarian guys can commit when they find the perfect girl.