Ludicrous Love Alert
Count this is a Ludicrous Love Alert. Or maybe in some cases downgrade it to ‘lust’ and just substitute ‘insane’ for ludicrous. There could even be risk of Love Zombie Relapse in some cases. More in the Daily Mystic Horoscopes obviously but hey, haven’t some of you just had to w.t.f. stop-check yourself at the direction your mind is wandering down?
Blame the change of season, your hormones, the Large Hadron Particle Collider (who knows, maybe they DID warp something?) and Venus in show-offy Leo trine ‘screw-convention’ Uranus.
Yes of course we’re all busy processing these last few weeks of Saturn in Libra – mature, realistic and pragmatic insights about such subjects as gravity, geopolitics, money and time are totes us, right? And of course the Zap Zone upon is a full-speed/hi-Qi evolutionary trip in its own right.
It’s not like we would want the distraction of a technically stupid affair, a relaxing lust-crush scenario or to re-kindle something demonstrably batshit crazy already. Of course not. Or…?
Image: Joe Ledbetter
…a ridiculously good looking (young) man seemed to flirt / hit onto me today, problem is, he is about 15 years younger! I think I inadvertenty ‘rejected’ him because I just didn’t consider it a possibility… I think he was reaching out and I shut the door… or am just being nuts?
I even get the feeling he is thinking, why am I attracted to her? Srely not… Yet strangely I am…
If he’s within age of consent, there’s nothing wrong with flirting back.
I say enjoy it.
wide advice from a wise woman
thank you
Yes he is definately legal, doing a PhD, maybe 25? I’m 40…mmmm. I’m ot sure I wnat to be the ‘older woman’ experiment for him… but then again.. could just enjoy and thank my lucky stars!!!
Gosh – clever and fancies you ?! THROW YOURSELF AT HIM
25 is hardly a baby and these young people these days know all sorts of kinky tricks from watching net pron.
I’m 40 and I’d go for a 25 year old if I wasn’t happily married…. I mean, I wouldn’t expect a ring and a cake and a white picket fence, but a merry tumble can be a delightful thing
And who says you’re the experiment?? You may not be his first! I remember being so ridiculously surprised the times much younger guys have hit on me – and they were all like “are you serious?!! Why wouldn’t I!” So I say go for it! My last (current?/who knows this week!) boyfriend is 9 years younger and when he approached me I thought he was wanting to chat up another much younger woman standing with me – I didn’t look at him at all in that way as I just didn’t think he’d be interested, until he made it blatantly obvious he was – told me he’d seen me from inside the party and sought me out…Very persistent. He’s 33, so it doesn’t seem much of an age gap at the mo. Dated a guy a few years ago 14 yrs younger – he looked older, I was gutted when found out he was only 24, but once again, he made it clear he was extremely interested. One of my close male friends urged me on, by telling me he (himself) has always only been into older women – including his current long-term partner, a mere 5 years older. So I finally threw caution to the wind and thought why not! Lots of fun
We had a great long distance thing for about 9 months lovely boy…but in the end he was just too young…Anyway very long-winded, sorry, but I’ve now learnt – don’t discount anything!
And who says you’re the experiment?? You may not be his first! I remember being so ridiculously surprised the times much younger guys have hit on me – and they were all like “are you serious?!! Why wouldn’t I!” So I say go for it! My last (current?/who knows this week!) boyfriend is 9 years younger and when he approached me I thought he was wanting to chat up another much younger woman standing with me – I didn’t look at him at all in that way as I just didn’t think he’d be interested, until he made it blatantly obvious he was – told me he’d seen me from inside the party and sought me out…Very persistent. He’s 33, so it doesn’t seem much of an age gap at the mo. Dated a guy a few years ago 14 yrs younger – he looked older, I was gutted when found out he was only 24, but once again, he made it clear he was extremely interested. One of my close male friends urged me on, by telling me he (himself) has always only been into older women – including his current long-term partner, a mere 5 years older (the smallest age-gap by far). So I finally threw caution to the wind and thought why not! Lots of fun
We had a great long distance thing for about 9 months lovely boy…but in the end he was just too young…Anyway very long-winded, sorry, but I’ve now learnt – don’t discount anything!
Oops sorry don’t know why that posted twice – stupid iPhone…that was me above…
I suggest you not think of it as an experiment at all from either end, just enjoy it. As with any relationship or dalliance, you’ll discover soon enough what parameters there are that can either allow this to go forward or stay on a happy stall.
I’m 42. My exes respectively have been 25, 29, 27, 32 (btw I dated the 32 yr old when he was 25 and he’s still around), etc. you get the picture. I TRY to date someone at least a bit older than that but they don’t ask me out. The Cappo Comedy Writer is about 34 I think or 36, not sure.
What I found is that in their mid to late 20′s/early 30′s, it would be very much about the Now, which was fine. I learned a lot from and enjoyed these men thoroughly, there’s a vibrancy to their interest in the world and how they approach it which resonates with me.
But by the time they start on 32, they start thinking about marriage..the funny thing is some have come back to me wanting to get serious but I realize it wouldn’t work for OTHER reasons than age. So don’t argue for your limitations too quickly..you just never know.
Yay go for it, in the Now as Anonymous says, ludicrous love alert is right, Ive just had a 24yr old hitting on me, Im 42, wow that was vastly delightful, I seriously considered getting involved but then it collapsed due to other factors.
lately i am finding the only people i have a real trully ROMANTIC moment/connection with are “campers” that come up to me on the street and adventure around sneaking into hotel patios to drink beers with for the rest of the day…. everybody else who is in my heart is: either old & stale, too far away, or making me feel more unspecial to them than i’d like (:(). my conclusion is that it HAS to spontaneous synchronicity to be genuine or fun or meaningful AT ALL, then you have to just live…
my solar return in a few days has this venus-uranus thing + the moon in leo. i think this year may be an echo of this romantic lifestyle choice i just made up? orrrr that the universe just made for me. lol whatever its doing me great at any rate
also (if you’re not attached) i think it works best when you don’t think of seeing the person in the future…. who is right for you is if their energy fills a purposeful role in your life. hanging out beyond that is kind of pushing/testing fate/holding on to something that once was but is not now and ya gotta keep movin on
Yes, i suddenly get you!
I mean i could have said this intellectually to myself any time before but i’m FEELING it today.
lol. ah immunity has its perks.
Ah, you so tempt fate haha…
Fate deserves to have to work his/her ass. I’m not budging.
I’m pretty sure I heard something that is the sound of Fate’s ass rumbling haha..
Oh. My. God. Thanks for the clarification. Sent former alkie Aquarius ex a long, detailed email about why we can’t be friends. Including sentiments like … “I was madly in love with you. I wanted to gaze into your eyes every night. I wanted to make gorgeous babies with you, but you were a mean drunk. And now you have a new girlfriend so we can’t be friends.”
Never got to say half of those things to him in person, but just back from Burning Man and feeling poetic, radically honest and clearly … slightly Love Zombie-esque. I’ve checked my email daily … almost hourly for his response. And what am I really waiting for? I don’t think he has the emotional capacity to be my “partner” anyway.
Also, secretly stalking a Burning Man crush, and forcing another hottie writer (who’s been “flirting” via Facebook messages) to be my long distance pen pal.
I am usually much more pulled together than this. But I think all the peace/love/happiness and stripping away of ego from Burning Man, combined with Saturn tearing away from my Libra Moon is making me batsh*t crazy when it comes to love.
Tempted to hide cell phone so I don’t go sending texts. Thankfully at least, I have some insight into my sudden Love Zombie-ness. Must. Not. Create. Unnecessary. Drama.
Here’s a sobering thought. Now that he has a new GF, assume she’ll be all up on his phone/email (let’s just say for illustration’s sake). You sent your heart-wrenching message ever wistful and true, I mean, babies are big time love come on.
She reads it. He shrugs. He makes light of it. She pesters him. THEN he has to say things to make her believe you’re in the past etc etc etc. He’ll be flattered but annoyed that you’ve now just created a hassle for him.
And you beautiful, heart felt message? Fodder. DON’T do it again. You’ve said your piece (I wrote peace so that’s cosmic non?) and now you have to prove you mean it. The only time you’ll need to explain it to him again is if he’s loitering round your front yard or making your inbox explode with missives of cult like devotion. And even then ignoring it is the better option. At least until he sobers up and gets rid of the GF?
As for the hottie writer, hey the beauty of long distance flirtations is you can say all sorts of crap and no one has to make good on it for a thousand reasons, usually they’re miles.
I highly recommend getting your flirt on with other prospects as a distraction, better than hiding one’s phone.
Sobering indeed and very apropos. Merci, merci.
And I think I need to not flirt with anyone or anything for a bit. Keep my nose/fingers/brain in the laptop, work my awesome career astro and begin pondering romance again when I feel less zombie-esque and more like my strong carefree Saggo self.
Hun, I actually lived this so I cannot stand the thought anyone would have to experience what I did.
As for flirting, hey whatever works yes? I use the E Pluribus Unum dictum (out of many comes one), as only having a single option tends to build an overstatement of their qualities/attributes. Plus you’re a Saggo babe, you flirt as you breathe even when you don’t mean to?
If what you said is true, yikes at the girlfriend being controlling and up in his phone and email. Jesus H, have some boundaries.
ah no, I was hypothesizing to remind Astro Geek of the possible mayhem to one’s dignity..
Ohh! Sorry, I misunderstood.
“Tempted to hide cell phone”… my automatic response upon break-up is to extreme spring clean, severe haircut (how short depends on how much he meant to me so have only shaved once), remove, delete, burn, throw out, donate all traces/symbolism – yeah, I totally embrace the cathartic process
Haha Scorpionic, your comment reminded me of my uber Scorp young niece, who recently explained all too easily some Dr Who concept called ‘erasing from time’ as opposed to mere death… it was like she was born knowing how to do such decluttering
thanks Chrysalis, I like the erasing from time analogy. It’s like studying for an exam or entering into a fun run or something, there’s all this effort and time that goes into preparing for it and in the end what you’re left with is knowledge and a result that can be built upon… the rest just falls away or is erased ?
Well last week I was considering starting up a “friends with benefits” fling with my very good friend – who is very aqua – very sexy and a bit of a successful dj. But I wasn’t suuure….
BUT THEN I went to one of his shows to see girls passing their phones to him accross the decks (for his number)… and went home to have a dream where one of these girls followed me into the bathroom to tell me about her STD… !!! … ewww
Maybe I am getting a pre-saturn in scorp trining neptune dose of something?…oh yeah… saturn is trining my sun at the moment… anyway – either way I decided the benefits thing was just a definite no way-er.
whoa. consider that a clear message from the universe.
Love…. Entirely foreign concept to me right now. Looks like I’m safe.
Hey, WOOHOO, was just in the .99 cent store at lunch and noticed the song playing. It said…
“I can’t stop thinking about you”….Quite frankly was glad I don’t currently have that obsession!
Count me in.
Hmmm.. I am questioning my reconnect with my love interest in August. I am still not sure why he called me over. Again, I think he is releasing a lot of hurt feelings about relationships. I am keeping my distance since we are going on another distance streak. It’s up to him if he wants to stay connected. I just hope he has the maturity to “end it” with respect. I feel bad for him. xo!!
Grrrr… Not what I was hoping to hear, just got dumped by my boyfriend (Virgo) who was the first guy I have actually loved in a long long time, and the next freaking day I freaking run into the freaking guy who I was with right before him (gemini) who I thought I was over. No dice. I have come way too freaking far during Saturn in Libra to be tripped up by this love zombie shit
Ah dear, this explains it. I keep on thinking of this old crush, he shows up in my dreams and I am trying hard to sweep it under love zombie rug.
yes, I have ex’s and old work colleagues apperaing in dreams now like crazy.. what’s going? Soul talk? Is this how our souls’s have a ittle oldchit chat each night?
Ooh dear. Explains a few things. Most recent ex reappeared 24 hours ago and and I won’t be surprised if there is a knock on the door this morning. Ta for the heads up Mystic.
THAT ex? I thought you were thinking of diversifying, and/or moving to somewhere where you could?
Yeah, moving will take a couple of months but I did get away to spend time with my daughter and grandchildren. Eldest grand child turned three on the weekend so had a very cruisey LZ-free time.
Loved your posts below and am also trying to work through this from a standpoint of love.
“When in doubt, Give Love” has been my stand for over a decade now. The end results have been fairly mixed but I feel it is not about results but about connection and peace.
I’m phoenixing myself sober
So that explains the weird dream then.
good god it’s safer outside… it began the night before last… outside are a thousand eyes i have no care for and a thousand smiles i return with ease.. everybody is looking and men are very sweet and it is only cute to me.
inside…some ghost from xmas past visited my dream, turned it into a crazy bats nightmare and made me as i angry as i used to get with an ex way back then. Spent some time yesterday contemplating what it is that i need to nut out to move on; but this just revives lusting over a thing i got over weeks ago, as he stands in sharp contrast to the crapola i redreamt. make it STOP!!!
IDK, I seem to be feeling a lot more lucid about everything. Spent the day with the Double Libra Saturday, we watched football at his fave sports bar, then went shopping (clothes for me, luggage for him), had burgers, went back to his. I was making to go home when he locked the bedroom door behind him quite firmly as I was standing there checking my messages..it was still tender and sweet, and you know, strangely easy to pick up. He lit a candle which I teased him as the only thing he’d learned in the year we’d been apart.
But really from the outside looking in, we’d look like any other couple. Who could tell it’d been so long? We couldn’t. Except knowing now for certain how our lives will now truly diverge. I’m honestly quite happy he’s moving to Chicago, he’ll be more at peace there and with exes, even if you move on just knowing they exist within a 20 minute distance makes you prone to hauntings, whether real or virtual.
Anyway, the DL was my Sewer antidote. He was also what I felt then was my answer to the Cappo Comedy Writer’s prior disappearance. Or at least it was the best reason I found to accept the circumstances then.
But looking at this now, I feel mostly clear that whatever I felt for the CCW then is still very much there. With one even clearer distinction: the feelings may never change, but our choices certainly determine whether they live or die.
I enjoyed my day with the DL, I’m even taking him to the airport when he leaves. It feels like a broad, warm love where we reminisced about our 2010 summer and how we appreciate what we gave each other. And how it is all amazingly, enough the way it is.
Getting home I was quiet and really peaceful, knowing precisely how I feel about the Cappo. I wondered if I should cut it off, make a statement of intent, just stop returning his short, shy messages but in the end, any of that would’ve just been me trying to elicit a response from him. So I left it alone, deciding not to worry about what may come. It’s not all up to me and that’s how it should be.
That Cap. I do feel for him (and you obviously). It sounds like he does like you. But at the same time you’re both driving around the same racetrack, he’s in second gear, accelerating and with his eyes on the tricky downhill hairpin bend 500m ahead, mapping out the race strategy in his mind – and you’re in fourth and have lapped him twice already, hair flying in the wind.
I am – was, at least, in the small hours of last night – contemplating a statement of intent to the Amazing Pisces Scientist (Venus-Mars in Aries) even though it’s been a tremendously long time and he has initiated zero communication. And then as I rapidly contemplate that side of things I think “well why bother!”. And, on the other hand, when I – several yrs ago – sent a beautifully written confess-all to the Multi-Libran Virgo long unrequited love interest, it was like ten years of questioning had been freed from my psyche (haha I have psyche in Virgo) and suddenly I was free because he knew finally how I felt and whatever happened after that was suddenly inconsequential.
Maybe as the CCW has venus in Aqua? I think? He might appreciate a communique so he can factor that into his thinking. I don’t know. Times like this I ask, “What do I MOST want, in my heart of hearts, out of this situation? Who needs to know this to make it happen?” Then – if I have the guts / it seems like I have nothing to lose – I tell ‘em.
You know yourself best FA! Glad the DL provided welcome distraction xx
and then there is simply time, of course, which is the friend of all Capricorns.
Perfect Pi!! I like the section stating how you sent a note about your love for a guy and it released a lot of anguish from you. I know what you mean! Good for you! It is the best feeling ever to know that you can say it with pure love and walk away saying “yippee”… that was great! xo!!
it took a decade to get around to it and you have no idea how nervous I was hitting send.(and how long it was a draft in my emails) but at the same time I felt like I truly, rooly had absolutely nothing to lose and everything to gain by sharing my feelings with him.
I also had a trusted, literate and understanding Virgo friend read it first.
I had a similar experience but for me it was my first experience of saying it, he wasn’t interested, and walking away feeling empowered. That was in September / October 2009 when he was a little immature and treated me badly. Well, feeling empowered and ok with how he treated me (since there was really nothing I could do about it) we got back together in 2010. Bumpy road with him and I continue to let him I love him it doesn’t bother me that he is still trying to avoid it. Still there is nothing I can do except realize that I had a wonderful time with someone I love. He will alway be with me whether he likes it or not. (Meaning in spirit). He let’s his fear get the best of him and that will continue. Poor soul. He has what it takes but he just uses excuses to prevent him from taking the next step. Anyhoo… it was so good to read your post. I took as “I am not alone”.. xo!!
Darling, Pi.. what a lovely post. I think messages live or die based on the spirit with which they’re written and sent. As you shared, the finally revealed long unrequited message to the Multi Libran Virgo was more about you and release rather than any designs to elicit a particular reaction.
So my sentiments on this is that if you can let the message go, full to the brim in your heart with faith that it is in and of itself sufficient enough to exist, then it’s like tapping into the big stream of love we swim in, a pure and simple act of pure expression. In the same way that plants take wind, rain and sunlight to grow, it feeds us well even if yet with no pointed and planned intent.
Truth be told, the CCW and I email each other almost every night..it’s got to the point where he’s the last person I email and I’m pretty sure vice versa. I laughed at the race track analogy.. essentially I mirror his responses. One begets one. Occasionally I throw in an extra for unpredictability. Am I two laps ahead? Probably, I try not to let on..but I think he slows me down and I speed him up. He asked to see me this week so..I’m sure he has some strategem to that and I woefully none.
I shrug. I think I understand that my breathing my feelings is something that both daunts and rivets him, it’s a lot of wide blue-eyed staring at me, panicked over-reasoning and an almost fatherly sense of some sort of gentleness and doting humor. Once I even got told off for smiling at him like it was some kind of sin. Oh and for kissing him unexpectedly. I ignore it.:)
In turn I try not to overwhelm him with what’s natural to me. There’s simply no rushing anything. Right now I think he’s just waiting for me to turn into a Venus Capp Trap and devour him whole, as if to prove I’m everything wrong with womanhood he’s ever encountered. He must clean the windows of the past before he can see me.
I’m not sure if his Venus is in Cap or Aqua, I’m thinking Cap given how long this is taking.. is time their friend or their RELIGION?? haha
Forgive me weighing in here FA but I have Venus in Aqua and he does not sound very Venus in Aqua to me. More like Venus in Cap. Taking his time, not keen on PDAs… along with his Cappy sun, well, yes, St Chronos, lol… from my experience with Caps I suggest you equip yourself with a Thermos, a round of sandwiches and a good book because it could be a LONG wait
Angel love, if there is that level of contact going on, I reckon you just take a deep breath, and relax.
It sounds to me like you have his attention, not perhaps in the way you’d like … but anyway, you know how this story goes. xxo shell
OMG I agree Chrysalis, and nothing to forgive. It isn’t even PDAs he goes all Chronos on, it’s just him going on and on trying to be funny, take TIME and I’m like, sodding kiss me already. He has Mars to my Venus in Leo, so is fine once I kick that switch haha.. I mean, if I let him do what he wanted, this would take a 3 chapter contract before we did anything.
And yes, Shell babe, I got the memo – in yellowed crusty scroll paper from ancient times, delivered by carrier hawk from the caves of Saturn. I’ve learned to understand that waiting for him isn’t waiting – in human years, but his method of deserving and discerning wtf this is. I’m about as foreign an experience he can get.. you do know that adage about Cappy’s falling for “hysterical” types haha.. which I’m not, but unusual certainly.
I’m just really enjoying sensing my way through this as an aspect of phoenixing.. and the best stance is to let go. And occasionally gripe when it helps haha.
I’m glad you’re enjoying it love. There’s always something to learn right? xxo
Yes, but I would like something to bonk in a consistent, monogamous fashion haha.. soz couldn’t resist. Bit rowdy but true.
hahaha. ok I totally misread the cap thing. no worries
and what a lovely phrase re messages existing in and of themselves etc. perfect xx
I so love the phrase he must clean the windows of his past before he can see me … and so relate to it. I think it’s why Kataka ran everytime we got close … shadows from the past and fear about repeating and getting it wrong for the future, meant he couldn’t just enjoy the present …
I saw the guy I had a date with last summer at a street fair on Saturday. I ran down the block. This guy was effing The Worst. I had never felt more humiliated and uncomfortable on a date, and he had the audacity to ask for a kiss. Hell no, creeper.
Need new menfolk in my life.
My love life is confusing as hell at the moment….
ludicrous is the word – in a variety of mediums – I was wondering what the hell was going on
Far out. I think i just got it: reading all your experiences, it feels like contrasts are there to show what it is we really want beneath the nature of desire. I just wrote it in ink to nut it out. No matter what the limitations are, there are many kinds of love, and all are given simply and freely even if there are constraints or real life conditions. The fragmented soul creates restraint where there is actually freedom. I realise i dreamed of a frightened man from my past, a push-me-pull-you creature who was full of potential which in my neptunian eyes i perceived too well. He was free but too fragmented. The man i know now who is not available to me, just as i am not available to him, shows immense wholeness and understanding of me, and love too. He teaches me about myself and inspires me. And now i open my eyes and see that i have all these connections that are loving. Love gives you wholeness; empty desire is a mirror in fragments and it takes away your sense of self.
This is beautiful. xx
YES and so well put!!
Precisely!
The results of relationship i.e. the kids, the house, the long term partnership are results based on the power of the inchoate, which of course, needs time, space and whatever it’s nature demands to form to whatever extent it will.
We are whole in and of ourselves. That is stunningly complete in our incompleteness, our rough edges. the contradictory things that make us both charming yet infuriating. But we’re here to share that with another.
Just there are so many stories that make us miss the one we’re actually living. When I saw the Double Libran, I had a gift inside my purse, a small charm for good luck. But the more time I spent with him, the more I understood he already had it and I was alright saving it for someone else, without the notion of whether or not he deserved it.
We need to be ok with our instinctiveness – whether that’s in making our own relationship or allowing ourselves to change through it. And we need to be ok with whatever it is we can receive and give.
Yes you know the one i dreamt of is the only man in my life who has left me. Yet he left because i was angry that the flashes of who he could be as a man were not at all sustained. I now see how fragmented i also was then. I think i’ve been angry at myself for that, for not ‘getting it right’ even though i’m a gambler by nature. Have had incredible luck, plus incredibly frightening escapes. Luck is a state of mind – you think the universe loves you when you have it. I wonder whether experimenters are testing that the universe loves them, that we are loveable.
I’m not sure i get the gift in your purse, and the DL already had it? I will be back much later to read. I am having a Piscean late day… long story…the Russians!
haha..I loved it when you said, the Russians.. it could be anything!
No, I had a gift I decided not to give him since I felt he was well taken care of already, he didn’t need it really. It was a feng shui charm – I always gauge my gifts based on the receiver. In this case, he was happy enough just to have my support and my company, that would mean more than the charm.
I think it’s a good thing that you can now heal that anger, seems to have come full circle no?
lol omg my new excuse for everything:
“I’m sorry I am so late…(whispers) *the Russians*…”
I can’t come to the wedding. It’s the Russians.. you know.”
“My assignment has gone missing from my hard drive and all my backups. I believe the Russians have something to do with it”
And then whenever anyone presses for more info, just shut down and be like, “Oh, I thought you knew… Nevermind” and then just walk away
Darlink! You know, life is hhherd, but yu dhon die. No! Yu mast stei alife end liv this layf. Thet iz the hhherd pert.
Mor then thet, ai kent sey.
Omg! You guys are just truly extraordinary. I feel like I’ve just come in on the most lush crazy shhhh it’s the Russians comedy show meets heart felt sharing possibly ever! I only have these kinds of convos with my goddess breakfast gals ( you know the ones where you have a cut out poster of Ryan gosling on the spare seat). I seriously could have saved myself a fortune in therapy bills the last 3 years! Saturn in Libra has been an absolute blinder and the last couple of days has been a really messy ” previously on Saturn in libra”.where I’ve gotten recap every last knife twist! Thanks for the sharing Ive so laughed out loud…. Now I have to go clean up dog sick …. I think I prefer the Russians! X
*Puts hands over ears*
LA LA LA LA I am in the CELEBRATE lifestyle, you can’t catch me, Cupid!
Dark moon unclutter has been going on all weekend and continues.
Meanwhile, I’m swiveling between crazy bats fun, getting my image back to HOT and counting down the days till Saturn gets out of Libra so I can cease giving myself a hard time. Speaking of such, does anyone know the date Saturn farewells beautiful Libra?
Channeling venusian lioness energy into friends and socialising.
Dealing with intense dreams, drudgery obligations and fabulous new connections to leverage the kinda money and PR I want!
Well, my little cappy lady and I seem to more or less be taking a breather at present. Things got a little too intense for us both a little too quickly with the re-courtship thing.. That’s grand and well timed though I think, I’ve needed some focus time for a project that is going live this evening, which relates to another long term project and once those are out in the open I can definitely see some attention and interest from her coming to light again.
That’s certainly fine with me, I’m happily cooled off now. Not too fussed about the romancey stuff firing up again in a huge hurry until later in the month but meh, I’m down with whatever the universe has in mind…
The Hot Leo Flirtmaster has indeed been at the top of mind over the last little while for no apparent reason…just fancy him!
Not love, that’s not really a happening thing for me right now, but a few other relationships are in a state of flux. Realised yesterday that the best stance is acceptance, focus on what I’m doing, and give people the space they seem to need. And to learn the grown-up lesson that some of these relationships have been troubling for years, the zap zone is zapping my 5th, so stand back and let things happen as they must. And a realisation that ‘self-sufficiency’ is not the same thing as ‘withdrawal’ or ‘loneliness’ or ‘withholding’.
last sentence – YES. Lesson I am finally coming to understand.
Being strong and independent doesn’t have to mean isolated and alone.
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(lol and so I have a lesson in Venus conjunct SN in Aries opposite Saturn transiting NN in Libra
Gawd I Love the word ‘ludicrous’.
been one of my faves the past few years used sparingly.
good solid Etruscan etymology yet extremely current.
Wow Mystic, this lucirous love alert – just as I had been internet lurking on an ex…one where I was a true LZ. But it has been so over for so long – highly unusual that I should be thinking of him, let alone wondering enough to lurk. Had to smile at your timeliness.
Fallen Angel, I loved your remark about E Pluribus Unum so much that I immediately wrote it down on a yellow sticky, and now it sits above my screen and smiles at me. Currently LZ about an unavailable but honourable Virgo, who seems to show up again whenever I cut the cord. Meh. But if I play with “Okay, so he shows up with declarations. Then what?” my anxiety levels go through the roof. Because I’m ‘being positive’ and ‘appreciating’ – both good things – and segueing into ‘he’s my best/only option’. Meantime, guys literally approach me daily to chat, and I’m oblivious until on my way home. Hey, was that guy interested…? D’oh!
I love it too Pisceswoman! And then my gemini influences thought “aagh! only one? So I rewrote it below as “E Pluribus Pluribum” to see how that felt, then I wondered if I had my Latin correct, then I giggled at ‘bum’ in the last word. hahaha
nothing wrong with being stuck on the pluribum if that’s what you want no? haha.. it’s likely a tasty place to be.
Well, we don’t have it on our currency (USD) for nothing – yes it is in fact on almost every note and coin. If it can inspire a nation then by Venus, why shouldn’t it inspire one’s love life?
Here’s the thing. To borrow yet another economics inspired phrase, I think relationships move on a two- speed track. There are your feelings/hopes/desires and then there’s the reality of what’s actually happening. While we must certainly nurture our feelings to allow for authenticity, we must also nurture reality to allow for what is and isn’t, can or can’t be. Part of that is accepting that nothing’s happening because one person won’t give it a chance.
Guys are funny, when feelings tend to become too much they literally will step off and away from it. If you happen to be the source of those feelings, then yes, they’ll avoid you too. But what are you supposed to do with yours?
I say respect them, let them be but never forget that YOU are your best option. Hence you cannot stop living for what isn’t there, whether it may or may not be there later. Mind, by waiting he’s living for now too – as every chance exists you could be swept away by yet another handsome stranger. If they’re willing to risk that, so should you.
Out of the many, will come one. You’ll hone your intuition for what and who is right for you even as you enjoy the attentions of the many because your truth doesn’t rely on anyone else but you.
cool stuff FA.
Feng the shui, charge the crystals, turn on the himalayan salt lamp, get under the covers with your favourite chocolate chip cookies, watch a movie on your computer and DON’T SETTLE.
I agree “don’t settle”.. !!
rules to live by.. x
*groan* god pleeaase no more cookies…that was SO last week…i’m sure i have stretch marks from my five day dessert-fest
Yep. No settling. I want a massive, amazing love … I give massive amazing love. Why settle for anything less?
My ex-British-Army-trainer once suggested to me, “go out with a few and then choose one” so maybe this is ‘e pluribus unum’ in effect .
also just realised that this is a phrase on the US seal of something or other. lol
Yes so true, someone once told me similar but in a language I knew, ie food. About how if you were starving you would think the stale old muffin in front of you was everything, but if you regularly could choose from a smorgasbord you would be pickier. Kind of like a night at Sizzler, but with men, lol. Or maybe high tea at a posh hotel (Cap moon would not be seen dead at Sizzler)
this cap moon also agrees re sizzler. If that place even exists any more
. It’s a dating strategy apparently too. If you’re sleeping with / flirting with / dating / hanging out with generally awesome guys (or girls I guess) then it takes the eau de obsession out of your interactions with the yummier type/s among them. Vibe is freed up and more relaxed; object of affections does not feel like is trapped in James Bond-style laser cage of Love Doom; all is cool. 
It’s on our money honey! And yes, I’d rather see the stale old muffin for what it is, than be “instinct-injured” thinking it’s manna.
to be clear, this guy was my personal-trainer who used to whip the british army fellas into shape… as opposed to an ex of mine who was a british army trainer! No such ex lovers of mine have existed
OK so after reading all these whimsical and thoughtful posts about love I Oracled the hot lover to find out if he still thinks of me: ‘every night before he goes to sleep X muses on you’ .
Neptune: “OOOOh that’s so SPOOKY, he used to tell me that I was his last waking thought every night”
Saturn: “Yes, he told you that in emails or texts because he was in bed, in another suburb, with his WIFE”
Hmmm…. I have a future ghost to deal with…. In the future… Am waiting for him/them to arrive, so I can reject them
What this means – I have had warnings, premonitions, readings that a hot, messy, Karmic love interest/Mentor is heading my way some time later this year. I’m like “Pffftt… bring it on” but then every time I get cocky in the face of the Universe, the Universe steps in to remind me that I am a tiny atom.
To be perfectly truthful, Mr Triffid was my hot, messy, Karmic love interest. Still is. I can’t imagine any other man, or woman, measuring up to him and the incredible, turgid, painful, insane, breathtaking, crazy relationship we had before we finally clicked.
I tend to feel a bit “Oh Love Zombies, come on ! Pull yourselves together” until I remember that I threw away a PhD for him :/ … and it was TOTALLY worth it. Got three small trolls in return. And the love of my life.
Can you see why I’m a tad hmmmmmm about the future ghost ?!?
we’re here for u dt x
This is a great thread. Not going to post on each as it’ll take forever but have to read some stuff again later as I’m Jupiter in Gem Mercury in Sag Saggi girl and do read at the speed of light lol.
Capricorn men. My ex who oscillated and wobbled as Pluto hit. As anticipated. I allowed loads of space for the imminent change. It didn’t serve either of us as I know from previous experience of Pluto I was no match for the force of change. Still, without ego I say that I’m his regret and his sorrow at not being able to hold. I was in the same place for a while but am not now. I can’t be. He has been visiting energetically and in dreams. He is again transitioning something significant and as is his way he is attempting to connect with me and anchor himself through the chaos. I’m not contacting him. I have spoken to his spirit. It has quelled some of his angst but his rational mind.. well I don’t presume to know unless my mind is inboxed
Other than that I have one completely impractical work flirt which is subtle but none the less real on some level with a fellow Saggi that shares Venus in Cap with me. Hmmm… tricky and mostly I just allow a smidge of innuendo for fun and release and then shut it down in my mind as it’s not appropriate in my mind to work and play together in our field. Messy.
I’m all somewhat sworn off love at the mo and calling it busy doing other stuff but I know that in part that is not true and of course it’d be delish yeah. But I don’t have the energy to have dalliances these days for the mere sake that they’re there. I have changed. I was ok with that once but now I find I can assess my sustainable interest and call it early rather than later. Many of my encounters have been easy to call early and have no memory let alone regret. I think I am too busy evolving. I hope I’m not telling myself a fanciful story for not being in the flow of other things but despite this possible quandry I am clear about who I am and where I’m at to the best of my vision both with eyes and soul. Still.. some rain would be nice!
yes yes yes….pick me…yes ….pick me for that part of the weird rekindle….
Ok.. so I am reading about how everyone is hearing from or dreaming about ex’s. I had a dream of a dear friend of mine who is gay. I knew he was gay in my dream so it had nothing to do with me hoping he wasn’t. I love him like a brother but a little confused as to why he came up. A mutual friend of ours passed away a couple of weeks ago and was t was very clear that she was in my dream.
I went to sleep in a sink at his place and it was extremely comfortable.. LOL!
OH.. let me not forget I get a late night txt from a co-worker who I get along with. Yes the feeling is he wants to start something but I am not interested. He supposedly married but he doesn’t wear a ring. 2 children. Will not engage in that level of connection. Ugh!! He is hilarious and brigthens my day at work since we are dealing with crap. We have a mutual friend / co-worker who I get along with also. Needless to say I don’t want to lose these “friendships” but… Can men and women be “just friends” without the intimacy? Drives me crazy. xo!!
I didn’t know where to post this: Hello my avator name is Virgo Ellie and I am going psycho bats… roller coaster city people.. WTHeck. I went from feeling disconnected (a little sad), seeing a scene “that guy” having an extremely close connection and now feeling emotionally sad because I love this one so much! ugh!
[[[[APPLAUSE]]]].. is there a 12 step program! LOL!!
xo!
Hi there virgo ellie. This guy has been on the scene for a while now I think? What is it that attracts you to this man – what are the qualities that you admire / are drawn to?
Is he responding to you in a way that shows he is interested in you?
How do you feel if you are not in contact with him (if you are) – is he responding or not to your contact?
My thoughts re this are that maybe you might benefit from getting some space from this – get some air into the connection and let things breathe a little. If he is not responding to you (and sorry I can’t remember what that scenario was) then… try to do things that allow that non-response to BE. Hankering after a figment is like serious self-torture! Don’t do it to yourself!
Give yourself time and space to move past this guy if he is not that into you. There truly are others out there – 3 billion of them. That’s a lot of men. If he isn’t capable of realising how awesome you are in spite of your efforts to date, that’s his loss.
Step out and engage with other men, even at cafes or casual / socially, so you can soak up the love / attention from other men – (most) male energy is yummy (imo) and I personally believe that sometimes we forget that masculine attention can come from others in our world who are not love interests – and it’s healthy to expose our souls to that in that in the context of new and old friendships, work connections, little flirtations, and more. This also allows us to appreciate men in general and where we are not getting love from our ‘target’ but we can get it in many different forms from others in the meantime.
hope I haven’t missed the mark here. but try to go one step back from being buffeted by the waves – meditation is an awesome way to find perspective. or intense exercise (as I found personally
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also , remembering that “you are not your emotions” – you experience them, they pass through us, and they leave us again. we just need to allow them to pay a visit, feel them, sense them – after all this is what it means to be alive! To feel, think, CHANGE. But they are separate from you as a being. This might help you get a handle on the rollercoaster you feel – “Right now I am experiencing sadness / feeling sad about this guy” Rather than “I am really sad about this guy” … there’s a subtle difference – try it with everything you feel not just romantic things. xx
Hi Pi! Thank you for replying. Yes this scenario can sound pretty boring and/or “WTF girl” .. but for me it has been a situation that has taught me a lot about myself. He has been in my life for over 3 years but not in a committed way. He is not hurting me in any way. He is just being himself, working through his pain and rebuilding himself (IMO). He’s a good guy. He is just not sure about what he wants. So, I am around and he uses it. Which is fine. We had things going well up until November 2011. After something I said a year prior that I did not know bothered him and it still bothered him until our reconnect last month, we hadn’t seen each other in 9 mths. Our longest disconnect. Our reconnect was “cleansing” for me because I got to say things to “clear the air” and left him thinking. But we were not connected the way we were. He is scared. I know he isn’t sure whether he wants to invest in a relationship but why stay connected if he isn’t sure. For me, I know if a guy is gonna be worth my time. I just know from the start. This one I want in my life. He is the first guy that I dated, who hurt me but I walked away not feeling like a victim. I just loved him. I am not a LZ.. I am just learning from this entire situation. We have so much in common and I am just tired of trying to figure guys out (where they came from etc).. I know this guys story. I have been laying very low lately and will see what the universe brings to the table.
xo!!
ok. well, good luck then VE! take care .
Thank you! xo!
I am a week without any sort of processed sugar and a month without the smokes.
I am, however, a firey ball of love/lust.
Very firey.