She Scorped

“Martha was passionate and political, glamorous and exciting. She loved to drink and gossip and smoke and flirt. She was hugely entertaining. She was motivated by a deep-hearted, deep-seated concern for justice; she was the friend of the dispossessed, the oppressed, the neglected. And she was a good writer.” And she just happened to be beautiful into the bargain.

More here.

LOVE that Pluto in Gemini generation – there are a whole lot of them on this site – i need to give them their own category.

You know that Nicole Kidman-Clive Owen thing coming out about Martha Gellhorn’s marriage to Ernest Hemmingway?   I think she would have hated the idea. She was married to the dude for five years – i’m not so sure she was with him that whole time – and she loathed how it became what she was most known for.

Imagine if it were you and you did all this incredible stuff but one (difficult) relationship became your signature achievement?

Gellhorn was Scorpio (Sun-Mercury – an amazing journalist, she was one of the first people to break the news of what was really going on at places like Dachau) and get this…she was Venus and Mars in Libra square Neptune AND Uranus. So she was Venus-Uranus AND Mars-Neptune. With Venus & Mars conjunct in the sign of beauty. And yes, her love life was, well, interesting.

From this review of the Caroline Moorehead bio: “She left college, home and country early and by 21 was making her way as a young journalist in Paris, trekking alone across the Pyrenees while writing fashion articles for American journals. That sort of bold contrast was typical of her life. She was a striking beauty – blonde, stylish, proud of and enormously attentive to her appearance, with a lifelong passion for exercise, good clothes, grooming and diet….

It seems she didn’t enjoy sex very much and wasn’t good at being in love – fear of dependency, fear of boredom.  She had a long affair in her 20s with the handsome French journalist Bertrand de Jouvenel, stepson and lover of Colette. But she shed him because he was too demanding and too weak. She was ponderously pursued by HG Wells, but she said many years later “Why the hell would I sleep with a little old man when I could have any number of tall beautiful young men?” She had a post-war affair with a glamorous American commander of a parachute division but his “army-barracks” world bored her. There was a patrician American editor to whom she was briefly married but whose infidelity she didn’t forgive. She would move on as soon as things started to go wrong: “She hated all forms of attrition.”

Classic Mars-Venus aspecting Uranus, right?  And let’s not forget that Libra – despite it being so often talked about in pair-bonding mania terms – is the sign of Free Love. Especially Venus in Libra.

And  how good is this as a description of Venus-Mars Uranus types? Exaggerated, of course. I mean, I have Venus & Mars aspecting Uranus; it can’t be that bad.

“Hemingway came to find Gellhorn’s “racehorse” temperament (“just two speeds, either running away or asleep”) intolerable, and she ended up thinking him a monster whom she never wanted to hear mentioned again…”

Hemingway’s Venus was in Kataka, on her Neptune and thus activating that whole Venus-Mars-Neptune-Uranus cardinal square thing she had going on. His Moon in Capricorn did too. Her love life was a permanent Zap Zone. She was an extraordinary woman, super-haute Scorpio.

THOUGHTS?


 

35 thoughts on “She Scorped

  1. I just love the quote from her…

    “Why the hell would I sleep with a little old man when I could have any number of tall beautiful young men?”

  2. How annoying for her this constant association with Hemingwarp. I cannot stand him, and i get where she was coming from, feeling that way about him at the end. I also get why she might have been attracted in the first instance.

    I don’t have these conjunctions so i’m not sure exactly but i kind of feel the vibe of what you mean. Uranus in Libra trine Venus and square Mars, with Mars Venus semisquare, Mars Neptune semisextile…you see, fairly different detail but flavours of aspect.

    How can i please a man if i don’t please myself first and foremost? “She would move on as soon as things started to go wrong.” I did hang in there for 9 years with a man, i’m quite forgiving of human error, provided they are on their own adventure to grow. But once it’s clear that it is no error, it’s simply things going wrong, i’m gone. It just has to feel right. I’m the one who has taken a walk around the block to cool my mind and actually kept walking, perhaps going back to get my things one day.

    But the journalism about Dachau! Inspirational fearless truth telling. How could anyone not love her. Asked my nan while we were in Germany together, how long after the war did people find out about the camps? She looked me straight in the eye with her lips set straight: ah people always knew it was going on. I was deeply shocked. I had imagined thousands of people storming the places to help…

    Just love these beautiful haute Scorpionesses.

  3. Gellhorn wrote only the once about Hemingway – in Travels with Myself and Another. Self-effacing and absolutely hilarious, it is, ostensibly, about the couple’s disastrous trip to China in the late 30s. He never forgave her for leaving him – the only woman to do so – and said some pretty vile things about her. Gellhorn, in contrast, said nothing – apart from this one, beautifully written story in which she is nothing but kind. Interestingly, they both suicided – Martha at 89 because she couldn’t bear the infirmities of old age; Ernest in his early 60s because the muse had long departed and shock therapy/alcoholism left him an empty shell.

    Moorehead’s biography is superb. For a taste of Gellhorn at the front, you can’t go past The Face of War.. By the way, the affair with Gen. James Gavin took place during WWII – Gellhorn struggled with post-war life – like her best friend Robert Capa, she was a frontline junkie and couldn’t adjust. Amazing generation.

  4. She sounds like an interesting person..

    Fear of dependency and boredom… sometimes I do wonder if that’s why I am avoiding some sort of relationship (even that word feels like a ball and chain sometimes)

    On the other side of the coin, shame to hear that two of the most suave men whom I have had the pleasure of attempting to charm / attract in some way also have mars-venus conjunct in Libra. Fffffuuuuuuuuuuu…

  5. I don’t have any of these conjunctions and yet, I go by my own surname nowadays so as to not be known for my marriage to someone, but to be known for my own body of work !

  6. god I would hate to be known for a 5 year stint with some other man as my ‘biggest achievement when I had a life book like hers. That is the sexism of it all though. Lover and muse famed above own body of work. Then the turning on her for not playing the game, people still do this.
    I think I would OD for sure somewhere if I just got too old, don’t see the value in life you can’t live myself. Though I know that view is not popular.

    I am going to slowly start to write again just for my own sanity. One could go back to school to improve ones english and grammar though, my lack of decent education has been a spear through my heart most of my life

    sunmercury conjunct uranus 5th house scorpio

    • with this combination in your 5th house – not writing is against your stars.

      • that is kind. I have way to much mercury for my own good (gem asc, mars,NN, 3rd house jupiter,lilith,saturn virgo moon, venusneptune 6th house) so I hoard secret diaries.
        In all seriousness I fear I will have no friends if anyone read my writing, I make Silvia Plath look like a tropical holiday.

        • Don’t worry about your readers or your friends, two groups which may or may not overlap. You have to get it out. My humble advice: Whenever in doubt, read biographies of female writers.

  7. Inspiring , she was courageous to be herself in those times . Yet it is funny how little we have grown in accepting women who change and step out of the norm . I loved a women like that, seems like they are tormented . And are running from themselves ?

    • pushing a boulder up a hill against all of society can get a bit tiring no?, everyone wants somewhere to be themselves that is not in the line of fire against judgement no matter how much fight you got in you. I struggle enough now! I look at my passed grandmothers and can see the torment even in their lives.

  8. I went to sleep last night expecting all manners of dreamtime wonderfulness– but got my ex-husband instead! I was like, “What are you doing here? You’re not supposed to be here,” and he’s giving himself a tour of my house, and then tries to lie down on the couch like he’s going to take a nap. I pulled him up off the couch– he was drunk!– and I said, “If you come here again, I will get a restraining order.” I walked him out of the house, and to the car that had brought him to my place, which was waiting for him in the driveway. His friend was driving. It was a hearse.

    Sometimes I feel like the more I look at my chart, the more confused about it I am. I think that astro-wise Martha and I have some similar arrangements, though.

    My ex is a very talented, smart guy; I fell in love with him that way. Unfortunately, he has this Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde thing going on with his drinking/substance use, and he can’t seem to leave them alone. We met and married in the same year. I was very naive and optimistic regarding his drinking and what-not… Of course, I don’t regret our time together one iota: my son came from our union, and my son’s the best thing that ever happened to me! My marriage, then, was destined and worth every painful minute: I would go to hell and back again if it meant having my son in the end.

    My ex is drinking himself to death, and I’ve been aware of that for a few years now. I feel for my son. Maybe ex died last night– ? — maybe his death is right around the corner. My ex is Cap sun– my son is Cap sun. Zap zone. Zapped and zoned.

    I was born with rx Saturn in the 5th/Kataka. It aspects my Sun/Mars/Venus in the 8th/Scorp. I don’t think Uranus figures into that mix, but I could be wrong. Or does it even matter? Haha

    Unlike me, my son has squares all over his chart. Pluto in late degrees of Sagg/6th house, and Uranus in early degrees of Pisces/8th house. He has Sun/Venus/Mercury in Cap. Saturn in Leo/1st house. Moon in his 12th. Like I said, I feel for him.

      • I always appreciate the cosmic heads-up, however it comes, whatever it’s about.

        The oracle just advised me to put salt across my front entrance tonight. Done!

    • Scorp inc… that sounds like a bit of a heavy dream… I was wondering how does your son feel, with a father who is an alcoholic / heavy drinker? it’s strange having parents who have these kinds of problems, takes time to cone to terms with and dissociate the psyche as an adult :( love xx

      • He’s doing ok. It’s a lot to process, especially for a young kid. I left with him when he was a baby, so he’s never had to deal with the whole living with an alcoholic drama. His dad’s been awol on the visitation front for the last three years, but even when he was seeing our son 2x/week he could never stick with the schedule long before he needed “just a couple weeks off” (of being a dad). It’s hard to drink up/be hungover when you’re alone with a toddler/preschooler, I imagine.

        So my son deals with the whole absent parent thing, more than anything. We talk. I mention his dad’s good qualities and talents to him a lot; as he’s gotten older he’s asked me some of the harder questions. I just try to be honest yet age-appropriate, and speak about alcoholism objectively, without sounding judgmental or angry. I get how much my son’s identity is wrapped up in his dad, whether my ex is present or not, sober or not– and I try really hard to keep that foremost in my mind when we talk.

        Yeah, that dream… Who is inspiring nostalgia right now? Chiron? Haha Yeah, well, my ex can take his addictions and his buddies and his death somewhere else. My son deserves peace and laughter and wellness in his home, and he needs to be able to count on it. I deserve/need the same (although I never realized that until my son was born). I won’t have that Mr. Hyde shit, and I don’t feel guilty about it, either. My removing him from my house wasn’t leading him to his death: he rode up in the fucking hearse, he can go lie in it– not on my couch!

        \m/

  9. Why need acceptance from society or anybody ?

    From people muddled in their own heads who don’t know what they THEMSELVES are doing ? Who have a hundred e-mail addresses on their stupid, non-funny forwarded e-mails to show you what they do with their time ? “Well I’m into relationships, friendships, blah, blah, blah.”

    Enrichment, elevated consciousness not important to them.
    (They don’t know what enrichment is or how to spell it or anything.)

    And when a person can’t spell words correctly or do simple math though they grew up in a rich country and blame their busyness on having kids
    and tending to family I say, “but you didn’t have kids when you were eight and being taught all this stuff did ya ?”(Don’t actually say this but I will next time.)

  10. Wow… just read the article and am inspired to look up her own work. She is awesome.

  11. erm … I’ve read about Ms. Gellhorn in the past and, to me at least, she’s seems like a giant pain in the ass. While I admire her cajones as an independent woman in that era as well as the war correspondent fab part – the personal side was destructive. She was not the innocent the HBO drama portrayed her to be in the relationship with Hemingway. I doubt that she truly “didn’t like the sex” because she was apparently at it quite a bit with loads of people, many who were married and during her own marriage. It tastes like the excuse-making common among those caught red-handed in some embarrassment “Really I’m a victim of it all, I don’t really like doing it” to mitigate their stink. There were certainly many amazing benefits she welcomed happily as Mrs. Hemingway – if she didn’t want her lil’ star to appear teeny next to Hemingway’s Red Giant Molten Sun she ought not to have hitched her hooks to it.

  12. Hemingway so over rated, Gellhorn so superb. I need to read more of her work and stat. Love to see that Mars-Neptune being put to good use, she’s an inspiration to our kind!
    Not holding high hopes in Kidman’s interp, but more importantly, let’s hope the script doesn’t write her out of her story…

  13. I would love to have met her.

    Thanks Mystic and MM team for always writing about interesting people/matters past and present xox

  14. The movie should be about HER, with Hemmo as a minor character. Hyeh, hyeh hyeh.

    • He could just be depicted as a marionette, or lumpy stocking stuffed figure posed into action in the relevant scenes.

  15. She would move on (bolt is a better word) as soon as things started to go wrong? Sounds much like what today’s men and women do–leave as soon as it gets uncomfortable. And she was wondering why she couldn’t have a stable relationship? That’s just the thing folks, you gotta stick with it through thick and thin and sickness and health. That’s how it is. You don’t want to do that, then don’t get married. I’m not as blown away by Martha Gellhorn as a lot of the readers are. I just think for all the faults Hemingway had, she had the same if not more. Someone please tell me how you can constantly be away from your spouse, do what the hell you want and then have the person be there at all times, loving you and caring for you? Really?!! And then this bit about not enjoying sex. Puhlease!!! The woman totally enjoyed it. Just look into her history. As far as I’m concerned she was a total egomaniac and a philanderer, and later in life, a bitter, lonely and unhappy woman. Maybe karma caught up with her. Not only that, she adopted a poor little war orphan whom she treated like disregarded trash. No wonder the poor boy ended up a drug addict. Fine treatment and an inspiring woman!!!!!!! LOL Go check out other female heroines of World War II. They would be much more worth your time. And think before you bash Hemingway. There, I’ve said it all :)

  16. i loved the film, i found it fascinating. i am also scorpio, also venus in libra, so very interesting what u write…i must know more about the free love thing lol never heard that before. re hemingway/gelhorn…this was a screenplay, embellished…we were not there, we dont know truly their connection…they wrote beautiful letters to each other, that’s a fact…but we really can’t judge…

  17. Actually, they had a great love story (Hemingway and Gellhorn). She was indeed a Scorpio with Taurus Moon, and he was a Cancer (Virgo rising). They were, in fact, as far as astrology is concerned, more compatible than any of their other relationships/partners. They were together nearly 10 years, separated here and there while each was on assignment. That is true that she didn’t want to be KNOWN solely for her marriage to Hemingway, but it would be dismissive to say that it was not significant for her. She didn’t actually want to end the marriage, in the end; neither did he, really. Cancerian men are complex and moody. She got to a point when she just wouldn’t put up with it. They both had Gemini prominently influencing their charts, too, and that is interesting (both had the love of a secret affair; once it was official, it lost some of the appeal.) http://fenfatale.wordpress.com/2013/06/24/hemingway-gellhorn-literary-romance/