The Pluto Who Loved You
Pluto transits have a fierce rep and well, i am guessing that a lot of you know why, right?
Let’s just say one bit of you will die and that you be will reborn unto yourself and that you will suddenly be ravingly intolerant to anything not authentic about your lives and loves.
Check the Pluto category for a whole lot of posts & sensational comments re this most renowned of transformational transits.
But i got an email recently from a woman having Pluto on her Venus and she wanted to know how to stay sane during this astro-passage. Honestly, i’m not sure you can.
Pluto-Venus is intense, once upon a lifetime, fateful, compulsive-feeling and highly sexed romantic astro-weirding.
Okay so you can stay sane – but you won’t stay the same. Not even if you want to.
Potential Pluto-Venus themes:
* An addictive love triangle – possibly toxic – but you can’t let it go and you’re looking fantastic.
* Feeling the urge to get out of an ‘acceptable’ romantic relationship that’s safe and not officially dysfunctional but it’s keeping you trapped in a non-you mould. So you sacrifice security & intimacy for growth.
* A massive crush on someone technically impossible (like an astronaut who’s never there would be ideal) but the energy generated by this crush could power a small continent or you into doing usually unable to be accomplished feats.
* A huge makeover or artistic transformation moment – the whole caterpillar to butterfly trip – pulled off in your life and via powers that actually do feel supernatural.
* Psychotherapy or similar – the desire to understand subliminal drives and pattern recognition in relationships.
* Someone walks into your life and you are never the same again but you and the other person never hook up, because he/she was more of a Plutonic catalyst.
Check out your Venus – if she is approx 8 degrees of Capricorn, Libra, Aries or Kataka, you’re doing Pluto-Venus hardcore. Eight degrees of any other sign – it’s less intense but you’re there.
Pluto-Venus can send you sort of crazy-bats in that you’re not going to settle for anything that’s not resonating with your soul but that’s not a normal dating vibe and it’s not generally the case in a long-term relationship. Friendly compromise is not precisely Pluto, you savvy?
If you did a big Pluto-Venus scenario when Pluto was in Saggo – especially 2002 for various Venusian reasons – you are going to love (i think?) 2012…the Venus Retro in Gemini stirs it all up again, lol.
Thoughts?
I have Venus in Capricorn @ 4 degrees in the second house, squaring Neptune and Mars (who are conjoined sitting in my 12th conjoining the ascendant. Also, they are squaring Pluto in the 10th but there’s also an aspect with Pluto in the tenth and Venus in the 2nd. Between them all there is a Blue Triangle on Astro.com All I can tell you is yes, I’m in it deep. And yes, I will continue on. I’m doing the caterpillar/butterfly strong. This life is not my own… it is a journey of schooling. I don’t get to enjoy the typical human experiences that most peeps do. When I try… I get my hand slapped and my attention drawn back to the supernatural experience of it all. Do I know this must sound crazy to every other human on the planet? Yes. Such is my life. (sigh)
My Pluto conj Venus in Sagg was not about love at all but fits MM’s point about artistic transformation. That year I received a lot of theatre contracts but that wasn’t 2002 so I wonder then what 2012 will hold.
Re chart drawing on Astrodienst ( http://www.astro.com) -sorry, this is an astrological d’er question- which number in the accompanying table shows degrees? There is a number before the planet and then numbers listed after. I assuem that the latter specify degrees but what does the number before denote?
Thank goodness someone is asking I have no idea how to read the charts on astrodienst. Do you look up the planet positions: Longitude Latitude Declination? Or do you look up the aspects? If aspects do you look at the left column or the top?
In the table listing the position of the planets…
eg. Sun 6 Cap 12’32” means the Sun is at 6 degrees of Capricorn. The numbers after “cap” signify minutes and seconds of a degree for extreme accuracy. Each degree has 60 minutes, and each minute has 60 seconds. These terms do not correlate to clock time, just give precise location.
In the additional tables: longitude gives the position in the zodiac, declination can be used to find parallels and contra-parallel aspects.
Virgo at your service.
Yay Echo – thank you so much! Thank the goddess for Virgos!
So in that case, my natal Venus is 7 degrees and so according to MM’s advice, there’ll be some sort of zap-ette.
Ok got it.
Thank you.
Cheers Echo. That makes things clearer. I have 9 degrees Libra in Uranus and 3 degrees libra in my moon. Pluto and venus not any of the 4 signs mentioned and not even close to 8 degrees. Phew! So fingers crossed I have dodged lightning.
Glad to help
Just a note, Libra is in square aspect to Capricorn so you dont escape any zapping. Your moon got zapped in 2010, and uranus is getting it now. Uranus rules freedom, uniqueness and genius. You may have a turbulent time achieving independence, or be pushed to change things for greater freedom.
Hi Echo, just a quick question?
Do you read your chart at the time of birth or for now against your birth chart?
Still haven’t been able to figure out this answer?
Maybe that’s why none of Mystics chart advise seems to match any of my chart… just know i am Cap with Virgo rising and Aires thrown in as well… and some of the zap zone seems to apply of and on off late.
Need more of your Virgo insightfulness
Im not sure if you come back to this thread but I will answer you anyway, as nothing is nicer to a Virgo than to be needed
Mystic is talking about ‘transits’, which is comparing the current placement of planets to the placements in your birth cart. Astrodienst has an option in advanced chart selection for “natal chart and transits”. Also check their free forecast report, nice shortcut I still use
WOW you have just explained my last couple of years. Yes I have been pushed to the brink to change. Was made redundant (and a major relationship breakup at the same time) and was unemployed for most of 2010. was close to a breakdown. But it forced me to upskill and poor alot of time into my art. I have never worked so hard in my life. I am now working a fulltime job and coming home and doing my art at night and weekends. Felt like it was getting me nowhere and now I feel like I am coming into my own. Seroiusly a rising from the ashes situation. Touch wood I can pull this off. Have been to hell and back. But I am damn proud of myself!
Sounds oh so familiar with Pluto, well done on your transformation! This year will hold even more of that for you, especially since transiting Uranus will also oppose your natal uranus in a few months time triggering that pluto transit even more. Good luck with it, births are yucky, but so worth it
Lightening indeed! That’s exactly what it feels like.
Lol you don’t need to check your chart to know if you’re having or have had Puto-Venus transit – all or many of the themes above would resonate.
I have Venus at 4 degrees Libra, in my 7th house. Currently a experiencing a super-frustrating crush that I don’t know how to act on. Hopefully any Pluto transformation will involve me finally figuring out how to…well, figure out this whole “having a relationship” thing. It certainly doesn’t come naturally to me!
well I got pluto in scropio and venus in pisces..but hopefully love can find me again..love always find me.
Venus in Pisces here as well. Hopefully I’ll be very wise and wonderful by 2042 (in addition to being elderly) because Saturn will be mid-transit my 8th House and just beginning to conjunct my Neptune during this time =/
Transiting Pluto square to my sun AND moon almost killed me. At least thats what it felt like. Shudder. Im glad it happened now, as I am so much stronger and more effective, all my bad habbits got chainsawed off, but if someone told me I was about to go through it again I would take a bottle of valium and hug my pillow into oblivion.
Transiting Pluto trine Venus manifested as profound intense love for a real shady character. His natal pluto was on my sun and moon, and he had venus square pluto nataly as well. Bastard broke me down. Taught me how to love myself by spotting wankers.
I have Venus square Pluto natally! I also have Venus trine Uranus though, so I think that helps me be less mental.
Passionate placements
My boyfriend just had this transit. I wasn’t really looking at his transits very closely (or much at all) during the time it was exact, he doesn’t take much interest in astrology; i.e. thinks it’s “evil”. But now that I think of it, he was becoming extremely controlling, and regularly accused me of cheating on him. I’ve been noticing how much nicer he’s been recently.
I’ve been feeling like it is in my best interest to end the relationship, but I don’t know how. The feeling was kicked into esp. high gear last March/April (Neptune in Pisces, right?) when I was interning at a Salmon research facility and had this total soul mate epiphany about a technical biologist working for the USGS there (this place was by a dam and there was constantly rushing, churning, flowing water all around-how apt?). I got to assist and watch him surgically implant radio telemmetry tags into baby salmon. I even had a dream about him. We were at some research facility by the ocean, and he was going to do some deep sea diving in these dangerous, labyrinthine underground caverns and it was something about a twelve hour trip, and anything over that he would run out of air? Oddly enough, come Feb., I may end up working at this place again, full time.
I don’t know if it’s Neptune goggles (I also have Neptune within 1 degree of my Saggo Asc., first house side) or what, but when I try to talk it out with someone about how I feel about this person that I don’t even really know (never told him how I felt, esp. since I was already in a relationship – but I did tell him the dream, and couldn’t help following him around every chance I got and getting all moony-eyed), I end up sobbing, can’t even hold it back. I feel so pathetic about it, I don’t even like to bring it up. I’ve only talked about it with one very close family member. Even just seeing someone that looks like him can bring me to tears. It’s been really weird, because I’m usually not the weepy type. Shoot, I have a lump in my throat right now.
Anyhow, thinking about the possibility of coming back into contact with this person freaks me out. I don’t know if it’s Neptune’s illusory quality, or if I should trust my heart and just give it a shot.
But for now I’m still with my boyfriend, things are kind of improving. He’s still got a long way to go with Pluto, soon to conjunct his Mercury NN conj. @ 16 & 18 degrees, respectively, then Jupiter @ 21 degrees, and finally his Sun @ 26 degrees, all Cappy of course. I don’t know if I can handle it. He has a lot of baggage from an abusive childhood, lots of anger and rage issues, ex alcoholic, two years unemployed, etc etc etc.
I just really started looking to astrology for some clues about this life about a year ago, had never taken much of an interest before that, I thought it was all sun sign.
It feels good to get this off my chest in a public forum, sorry if I seem like I’m unloading my own baggage, or talking trash about my boyfriend behind his back. It’s true, I don’t know how to say most of these things to his face. I just had a Pluto trine Mercury in Virgo transit though, so maybe I just need to get a little ballsy, and unload on him what I’ve been going thru. I just wish he was the kind of person I could tell when I felt this way about someone else. As it is, I don’t know what he would do, but I don’t think it would be a healthy reaction.
This stupid post is soo long people are probably just going to skip it, but oh well. If anyone has any advice, I would appreciate it. Even if it’s just to say stop posting long boring things about your dumb relationship problems. Sometimes I need to hear stuff like that. Thanks.
I dont think its stupid about that other guy… i think that we are all going through weird stuff! I know I am.. Have you thought about this guy being a soul mate from a past life? Hence why its so emotional for you..or maybe that you are trying to purge of.. like the post above says..anything not authentic, or this new guy might be a catalyst….OR all of the dot points from the post..! …I have same thing happening. A guy that is 6 years younger than me, I fell in love the first day I met him, and he was the most amazing person I have ever met….but also love my partner at the same time and think he is amazing. I have not ever attempted to contact new guy in a romantic way, but can’t stop thinking about him..and so decided it best to avoid all contact for now until I figure it out!! So far I think….For me it is a catalyst to move on with my life, to be able to let go, especially of him, because now he is not in my life on a daily basis….. To keep improving my current relationship and learn about honoring my partner more. But also being willing to let go if it is the right time…but i will know if it is the right time, and its not for me, i am just going to have a deepening of my relationship…. When i am going to stop thinking about the new guy i don’t know!! I am still slightly crazy about him…love knows no boundaries right! So …I have also wanted to talk to my current partner about how I feel about this guy, which is weird, its almost like I want him to give me permission or something..but this is my life right, so I just have to make informed decisions myself! … I have for now, decided it better to only talk to a close friend about said situation, until i know what is going on! I know we can have more than 1 or 2 or more! soul mates.. so it doesn’t bother me how I am feeling (love triangle stuff), but I did have to read up about soul mates to satisfy my urge for the authentic…I am going through the whole list!!!!!
I feel a little bit icky about it, but I have to admit I Googled this other guy’s name, and he had mentioned where he lived, so I knew which results that came up were him. It was on one of those awful info gathering type sites, and all of the results say he’s Capricorn too. I think I’ve only not been in a relationship with a Cap one time, and he was Leo (it was more like “friends with benefits”, except he got the benefits, and we weren’t really friends), and we totally lacked chemistry. In fact, the only reason I even saw him at all was to try to get over a Cap (who, coincidentally, has the same birthday as my current boyfriend, which I consciously learned after the fact). So, I don’t know what day the other guy’s b-day is, but it’s very likely his Sun and maybe other planets are triggering my South Node in Cap.
And yeah, maybe this whole Cap thing is actually about just learning to let go of some past life baggage. I think you’re totally right though about knowing when it’s the right time to do the right thing. I have a hard time trusting myself sometimes, because I feel like I’ve let myself down often in the past – and yea, “breathe”, “let it go…”
Thanks so much. Your situation is so strikingly similar, and what you have to say really helps.
My dear ML,
leave him please.
(try and reread your post as if it were a strangers – just how many red flags are up???)
I can totally see what you’re saying…
Please dont waste your life waiting for your bf to mend. I poured 15 years into aguy like that and now i am nearly 40 single and a single parent and he is dead! Extreme i know. My life is good and in a few months will be awesome but the damage is done. I cant get those years back for me. I choose not to regret my choices, but i am very talented and did spend a third of my life being used to prop up a damaged being. A vampire. Being abused by the abused. Consider your life and what you deserve. The apologetic tone of your post made me a little upset. Never apologise for seeking advice or love. You deserve to be heard as much as the next person!
Whoo, makes me cry a little bit – for you and for me. Powerful stuff.
Messy, it sounds as though your boyfriend needs work and even though he’s supposedly trying, it may take a long time for him to figure things out.
The Neptune connection, water, soul mate, emotions, longing, return to the same job: seems that you’re on a sliding course straight into the new guy’s arms.
Maybe leaving the old dramas behind (ex) to resolve themselves without the fuel of co-dependency is just the ticket. His reaction? Well, that’s his problem and challenge. Put a protective shield around yourself. He can’t touch you.
Thank you so much for reading, and for sharing your perspective. Strong advice from a wholesome individual, I would say. I bet this comes in quite handy in the future.
Hi ML! I had some pretty dodgy characters while Neptune was in my solar seventh. One big thing I noticed was that I wanted to ‘fix’ damaged people and heal them. When you really can’t. People can only fix themselves. The only person who can look after you is you and that needs to be your top priority. If someone is being damaging towards you, get rid of them! It is just not worth it. Not worth it! I don’t know how old you are, but it took me having a child and needing to protect that child to actually step up and walk away, when I should have stepped up long ago, for my own sake. Also, who thinks astrology is evil? Kind of mental. I can understand not believing in it, but the evil thing…
Evil? In what way. How can it be evil??? I don’t get where your coming from at all.
Hey lucy the leo, me too. Left when babe was ten months (8 years ago). I became the lioness. Life has changed so much and is so awesome now! Now to find a decent fella for trysts would be grand but suffering still from damage control fear. Had a 2 year thing that severely damaged my faith in relationships. Loving myself for the last 4 years has been very pleasant!
Scroll up, blue moon, she did 2 posts.
Yeah, even though it’s not my personal view, it’s still a little embarassing to post about it, but here’s the thing. So during his Christian upbringing (and mine…), he was taught that anything predicting the future was of Lucifer, and his minions. So, since astrology can be used to make loose predictions on conditions affecting actions and the consequences thereof, as well as being used to gain a more wholesome understanding of who you are and how you can harmonize with the universe to effect the most good possible; well then, bottom line it must be evil. I’m sure you must be familiar, at least on some level, about the Devil’s trickery, lulling you into believing that something evil is actually good – only to ensnare you in fire and brimstone for eternity. I call it paranoia. My Grandma thought the same way, and she did a lot of raising me (her Taurus Sun was exactly conjunct my Moon in my 4th house). It took me some time to get out of that mindset.
I’ve tried to share my beliefs with him, but if my bf isn’t comfortable talking about something at the outset, he’s “taught” me that it’s best to just stop talking about it, so a LOT of issues have gone unresolved because of his tendency to control through emotional manipulation. Plus he has a Gemini Moon, and if he does want to hear what I have to say, then I’d better get it out in less than 5 seconds, or he’s going to interrupt with some “genius” thought that he just HAD to interject with. ergh.
totally feeling all of this, i was wondering why! this explains it =)
Venus 3 degrees on Aries 2nd house. Fortunately no love weirding, but changing my whole creative life (in other words my whole life) to one that includes a proper home, gardening, more time with midget, and more time to actually create for my own pleasure and income.
Not sure how many degrees in or out it has to be to be a transit. But life sure is changing.
Also exceedingly grumpy and intolerant of people who rub me up the wrong way, especially in regard to education and art….Yet at the same time jubilant about coming changes – which of course can’t come fast enough!
I was his Pluto-Venus transit; he was my Neptune-Venus transit. Yes, it was life-changing. I’m never going to see him again, am I? *curls up on floor, wails, speed-dials cheesecake franchise and blue devil delivery people*
ohh baby xx hugs
Thanks, Anonymous. Pluto has finished with his Venus and will shortly be taking a long trip across his sun – not that I still have his chart saved in astro.com or anything – so I feel a bit sorry for him
meanwhile I’m attempting to channel Mars in Virgo sensibleness.
Ah 2002! That was the last of the truly outstanding years for me. I got graduated and started over in an awesome job somewhere. Moved somewhere new. Moving into a home with the love of my life then. It was like a huge button press-restart on my life.
Part of me is sceptical that 2012 will even do half as much,, the other half is praying that it will happen.
And a lot of those items I feel like I do all the time and I don’t have a natal Venus – Pluto anything.
all of the above, xcept, a couple of people trying to slip me into their pretend love triangle and i won’t go there. Leos like circles and to be in the centre.
Wise friend told me, “just because you don’t know what’s going on, doesn’t mean you are confused.’
Just when I thought energies in my life were calming down, I’m being Plutoed with a hammer.
OMG I’m doing the whole list. (And some of them passed already).
Mostly sane after.
Oh NOOOO! It gets worse?????
Pluto is currently ON my sun. BUT – oh looky what’s ahead – Merc at 14 deg Cap with Venus at 21 deg (both 4th house). Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!
I’m barely getting through this Pluto-Sun thing. I’m actually completely lost as a person (who am I? what am I going to do today/ tomorrow/ ever???) and am already in a developing love triangle. How the fuq am I going to survive this on-going Pluto thing, especially when Pluto will be on my Venus AND squaring my Libra Asc. Fuq fuq fuq.
Thank Gawd for this site, Mystic. Arming myself with astro knowledge is getting me through my days at this point
when transiting pluto came into orb for a trine with my natal venus, I told my hubby I would take our marriage one day at a time. I would wear my ring if I felt like being married and not if I didn’t. He laughed. We went the longest we ever went without having sex.
THEN Just as it was almost exact…..I gave up gluten forever. My whole life changed for the better. My marriage improved(didn’t last long though) as did my happiness and my health.
This was gigantic!!!
OH MY….met my husband when transiting pluto squared my natal venus. Was almost exact!!!
I am trying to think of a relationship that I have had that didn’t tick pretty much every single box.
I think that’s why I kinda like being single so much:)
I am in a damn FINE mood today. I snuck away and secretly watch Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy and I am all bubbly and swoony over Tom Hardy.
His voice… lordy… his voice *fans herself*
He was also amazing as Heathcliff in a tv adaptation of Wuthering Heights a while back… very intense!
Oh yes Liomfish! His Heathcliff was an impeccable, right-on-target performance. You actually believed him .
R u natal Venus Pluto? That’s a whole other story!
The most amazingly full on thing is when you get a person who is – say – natal Mars or Venus with Uranus or Pluto.
But it’s maybe a bit dormant. Then they get a transit that awakens it and it’s always someone they personally find hot walking into their life to wake up the Pluto or Uranus
Can you say something about that whole other story – ie natal Venus-Plutos, Mystic>
I don’t quite know what you have to look for when it comes to “natal Venus Pluto”. How does that manifest in one’s chart?
When you do y our natal chart in astrodienst, look for Venus and Pluto making large aspects to one another like a conjunction or square or trine or something. There’s a whole bunch of symbols.
Interesting! My ex was Mars/Pluto and I am Venus/Pluto and we split around when Pluto crossed his Cap Venus. (I have Cap Ascendant). Feel well shot of him though.
Pluto trined my Venus (late Aries) as it went into my 7th house and my relationship with the Angry Pot-head Piscean crashed in a fiery wreckage. I suppose I can’t add much to the pluto-venus transit tales as it’s not coming close to forming any aspect – a SQUARE no less until I am about 50 years old.
*suddenly feels old, fat and depressed*
* A massive crush on someone technically impossible (like an astronaut who’s never there would be ideal) but the energy generated by this crush could power a small continent or you into doing usually unable to be accomplished feats. < this is me -_- but i'm getting over it real quick*
does anyone know how long does it take for pluto to transit all of capricorn? that is, i have venus at 19 degrees, about how long til i start feeling the effects?…(actually im looking forward to it)
2024 is when it’s out
but lol you’ll have uranus square venus before!
hmm interesting
What if your venus is in gemini for this retrograde?
Oh god. . I’m 6 weeks out from breaking up with my partner of seven years and pluto is about to be exact on my Venus. I don’t even really know how to react to the thought of this very very slow transit :/
No, this is how I am reacting: confused, scared, liberated, excited, tired, worried, empowered. But it can’t possibly be as bad as my sun/Neptune/ascendent transit of a couple of years ago, nothing could. Right, guys?!
WHAT??!!!?!?!?!? NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!
I’m having a lonely-heart double-whammy Saturn transit and Uranus-NN opposition – cannot be doing Pluto as well!!!
I’m going back to bed for the rest of 2012. Someone wake me up for the apocalypse OK?
ha! lol
I’ll wake you up with a cup of fresh mint tea and some home-made fruit toast TA. Sorry to hear about transit drama..nice to see your name here ! *hugs*
thanks PCFR
While Pluto isn’t tangoing with Venus at the moment he is currently square my natal sun and mercury, sextile natal mars, and tribe natal Saturn and chiron. Right now when things come up I just keep reciting “stay stuck and you are fuqed” and choose the most evolutionary option accordingly. I am also going to see if the Pluto juice will help at all. That being said Marlene Dietrich comes to mind; “buckle up boys, it’s going to be a bumpy ride.”
that was bette davis xx
My venus is not 8 degrees of these places and I am not, amazingly, going through any of the above….. not today anyway. How cool is that?!
I only have Pluto at 25° in Libra, but still… most of the love triangle weirdness applies to me. The safe companion vs. the annoying but possibly renewing social butterfly. Me not being sure whether safe is good enough (it IS good) or whether I want excitement, madness, unpredictability and so on as well. As I like things planned, ordered, under control, I’m not so enthralled by recent developments…
Hey DoubleScorp, I have Pluto at 26 degrees Libra, so Saturn is sitting right on it at the moment … am trying to be grateful for my life (house-marriage-job) but it feels like it’s slowed to a standstill – I just want to get out of here! Loaded 9th house with Aqua planets and current sun-in-aqua, merc-in-aqua is NOT helping.
So glad you shared that you, too “just want to get out of here” right now!
PS: 2002 sucked. I don’t want a repeat version of it! I didn’t have any s*x that year, methinks.
it won’t be a repeat – more like an echo – maybe someone you could not ‘get’ that year pops back up
echo sounds much better in my ears… i was in a love triangle back then, too.
er, make that a quadrangle.
Oh, and I do have, of course, Venus at 8° in Cap. Full on.
2002/03 WAS my big venus pluto transit mystic. I N T E N S E. was never the same again. never want to feel like that again. I’m done. x
I’m about to do pluto square MC though. would love some coping tips on that! lol x
there are heaps of fab pluto tips in the pluto category – one of the posts had a whole series of amazing comments, i remember.
it’s AMAZING for your career if you’re authentic and you really work your true self – damned hard on sticking to something to impress others
AW thank you, something I read was all people blocking you etc. but no that makes more sense I feel like I am on warpath, actualizing aries. Don’t see much on the squares or MC but will check it out. the whole zap thing has been a bit scary income wise but Im taking your advice! xx
oh I am SO glad I read this, Ms – you and I have close chart angles for MC and IC (I am MC ~14 degrees Aries).
I don’t quite know exactly what I want but I know what I *don’t* want, so at least I can move away from that. Might pay stronger heed to some life-urges that have come up lately
yes same. I am even ready to give up fashion if its not right for me as long as I end up happy I don’t really care I am after a life I can live to the full. I miss those days.
Ms, do you have Libra MC? I have that too at 28°. Wouldn’t mind a bit of career action right now.
Aries MC at 10 Degrees Libra IC x
High 5 Ms… my MC is also 10 deg Aries x
Gawd Pluto is opposite my moon all of the above started Dec 2010 and it’s gaining momentum. Jeez it’s been all that and more since…wild ride, I love it. It would take me all night to divulge. Better write a book/short story about it.
I got Venus 8′ aries – I think this little pluto party is turning me straight… I’m just lying low till neptune is in pisces where is natal on my chart and a fat grand fire trine kicks off in April…
Venus in Libra 9° in 9th house. Yes!! *punches fist in air*
After my Saturn/venus transit, I’m ready for some Pluto/venus action. I have natal Pluto in 8th house… transformation is the way I roll. Bring it!!
Just so happens i have a crush on a much younger Pisces guy. His Pluto is on my Sun and his north node on my Asc.
Starting to feel the Neptune in Pisces vibe. Feeling dreamy….
Have been experiencing the fun of a pluto-venus trine transit on and off for the last two and a half years. My venus is in taurus conjunct my midheaven so i don’t suppose it will finish until pluto is well clear of the relevant degrees of capricorn. Yes it is intense, and having venus-pluto opp natally… let’s see… for me it has meant attracting relationships with jealousy, having a realtionship with a full plutonian (every inner planet in scorpio being squared by outer planets); being cheated on; intimacy, weird sex, aaargh. To be quite honest today I wish I could have security and intimacy & am totally fed up of my aquarian 7th house which seems to mean every man I choose thinking he will be stable and secure turns out to have serious uranian off-map commitment issues and general phobia of women. Oh also has meant long-term chronic illness, to do with issues around expressing anger (but that’s the pluto-mars transit i’ve had going on simultaneously). I am waiting for that alchemical power-rush transformation, I really am. Pluto transits can also leave you washed up naked on the shore of your own illusions…
Pluto squared my natal Venus-Saturn opposition last year. The last pass was in December, although it’s still hovering close by until the end of this year. It manifested chiefly as the Universe forcing me to become more independent and autonomous in two karmic relationships, one in my family and one at work. All I wanted to do was stay in a cocoon of habit and routine and not have to grow in relationship to them. It felt like a tragic break at the time, but now I see it as those relationships being put in the proper perspective.
Now Pluto is conjoining my progressed Sun and Mercury for most of this year and in March it begins a long trine to my natal moon–from the eighth house, no less. At the same time, Pluto is on my Ascendant in this year’s solar return, forming a grand trine with Mars and Jupiter. And this long Mars retrograde is going over my natal Pluto.
Good things are happening, but I feel sometimes like I’m on the crest of a huge wave that keeps pushing me forward and I can’t paddle fast enough to keep up. I also feel out of control and exposed and as a Scorpio that is acutely uncomfortable.
I’m taking the Walnut flower remedy at MM’s suggestion and I do feel like it’s helping me get perspective on all the changes happening in my life.
so apparently I’m having this transit but most of the things you mention actually happened to me last year. at this moment, i’m in the middle of nowhere, trying to re-organize my life, to discipline myself, but actually feeling very bored and paralysed… like nothing’s ever gonna change. like i’m never going to find love again, or that i’ll have to settle for “less” if I want to enjoy company and intimacy (but i’m in a position where i have no one to compromise).
ugh, sorry for the novel…
2002 /2003 engaged and then married. Had venus conjunct transiting Pluto in 9th house and we eloped and got married in Italy. We had dated for 5 years prior to our wedding so i think we were beyond the obsessive courtship end of things.
Yes, thanks so much for this Mystic! Just like you say, very interesting situations. Self, physical transformation, among many transformations, absolutely – and very surprising it was. Re Venus-Pluto, yes, very strange goings on at the mo, nothing not haute, but compelling circumstances unfolding in very strange ways .all South Node…An intense push/pull of emotions and feelings and thoughts mixed with reality goings on. Recent very affirmative information received. No turning back like in a good way.
Masses of work to get through like you said, and Neptune time warps 9th South Node, having to stay up all night to do unexpected o/s stuff…tres wierd. lol 
Lol, thought I was doing it hardcore. Venus in Cancer natally, actually Pluto almost in trine to Venus! Ahhh. The Pluto/Venus opposition was quite a romantic time in my marriage..
this sounds so nice Andromeda, i can only dream of such realities…for now
Oh, no, my Venus IS 8 deg of Cancer, whups!
It’s Venus near trining my natal Venus. Okay.
Well, I guess i do feel a bit transformational butterfly physically atm.
I have lost a bit of weight lately. It is almost annoying how excited people get about it… Oh the approval! Like i chose to have a torn hipsocket from giving birth and give up jogging and become overweight. Tsk. Well maybe I did choose it on some level? Even so, all it has taught me is that other people are so fixated on my looks i was right to be so anxious about it in my earlier youth!
As for the rest, it makes Pluto-Venus sounds like a good name for a tawdry detective agency…
Yes I can relate to the weight loss and looks with peeps celebrating it like you’ve won a gold medal or saved whales or solved world hunger or something it is only looks though. Five years ago I was treated so differently as I was overweight and pretty much ignored. And yes Pluto Venus must generate all sorts of investigations
I’m a double Sag, with Venus in Libra @19 degrees. Pluto in Virgo. Feels like I am starting over in every aspect: almost divorced, starting new biz, looking for new place to live. Any advice/thoughts?
Well if it isn’t cheeky you could be my Putonic friend, lol. i love double Saggi’s, as I have nn in Saggo and gem rising you are probably completely delightful to me.
My sis is venus in Saggi & in the same boat as yourself. From observation my only thought is that forgiveness is what cuts all the ties with the past, while an open and loving heart is the best way to embrace the future world of possibilities that are opening up. Lots of luck to you Saggox.
Awesome!
Pluto opposing my Venus from 2002-2004 was a time of major transformation for me. I’m glad for the end product but im not sure I have the energy to re-live it. Though if it’ll get me out of the rut I find myself in, maybe I should look coward to it.
2002 was a really tough year for me. Best friend died. Lost other fair weathered friends. They didn’t want to hang out with me anymore because, I was too depressed, dark that year. They wanted to party and go clubbing and seek out cheap highs and try for their 15 minutes of fame. Money was tight.
I felt like shit. Didn’t feel like myself at all. It was a year of the Dark Night of my Soul.
I will think positive that 2012 won’t be a repeat or even an echo of that dark merde.
I had Pluto sextiling my Venus. It was definetly a spring awakening experience for me. And I had the worst taste in boy friends and guys ever. Right now I have Pluto conjuncting my Uranus. ”
You may become fiercely independent and rebellious, defying rules and conventions, especially as regard psychological mores and taboos. You could find yourself gaining insights into everything secret and psychological, breaking accepted rules. ”
hmmm……
Also Venus is trining my natal Pluto
Venus Pisces house 10
Pluto Scorpio rx house 6
Uranus Capricorn stationary rx house 8
This had not even occurred to me. My Venus is at 10 degrees Cancer. Only just recovered from Saturn squaring my Moon, Venus and Ascendant last year and was prepping for Pluto to cross my Ascendant but forgot about the bloody Venus and then Moon. Gah. Sick of being such a nutjob.
What about transiting Pluto on pAsc opposing progressed Venus in in Cancer in the progressed 7th house, natal 8th?
Don’t tell me, I am living it. Finally accepting that i cannot control love- my heart shines regardless of whether the twin soul/ hearth companion (who is unavailable due to altruism and circumstance) is in my life as a physical presence or not. Or whether or not he is “appropriate.”
AAARGH. Peace at last, but it has been a long go. Sometimes, the energetic connection is so strong, it is distracting- and also reality. There you have it- life with Pluto and Venus, even by progression. I am here to tell you that it is possible to live through it- but you will never be the same again. xo
I do have a wee crush on a fella 13 years younger than me. I am going to move to the burbs and i am very seriously researching home schooling my kid. Getting rid of the shop to go online and cant stop thinking about creating a scented garden and making preserves!
Yes and going to do make up for photography and brides too.
i didnt see this untill now.. but something STRANGE happened to me yesterday . i suddenly let go of all the crazyness that was driving me mental about my bf.. like my own insecurities and bs bubbling up for a few weeks now…. suddenly i felt AS IF in a transit of some kind.. but a great one.. im with the guy, but i have this new perspective that gives me so much peace. im libra with leo rising.. i dont know where my pluto is in this.. but im not complaining.. i knew it had to be something .. something reawakened in me and i feel like myself again. so im enjoying whatever is going on..
i actually mean i feel like a better version of myself ! changed. transformed . improved.
I am currently considering writing a book called “my Life as a Pluto transit”…..venus, jupiter & mars in Sagg & now mercury, saturn & sun in cap with the midheaven in the middle of it all….a Pluto colonic.
My venus will be transited by Pluto in a few years (not just yet… got to deal with it over my Neptune first!) and I think I’ll refer back here for tips – thanks Mystic! From my currently unaspected and thus relatively naive perspective it looks kinda non-scary? I kinda love the idea of depth-psych and transformative art stuff!
I live with my natal Venus and Pluto almost exactly opposite. All relationships are fated…blah, blah, blah…Getting tired of it. Think I’m moving to Fiji..
Oh yeah, I forgot..just had my Venus return and am about to have my Chiron return. ALL IN PISCES!! Blech on love at the moment.
Born w/ Pluto conj ascendant & square 10th house Venus…romantic/sexual relationships have not been the strong suit of my life!
I’ve had transiting Pluto on my Venus for the last 2 solar returns, He’s also about to square my natal Uranus/ MC/IC axis and then will move on to conjunct my Sun. Life has not exactly been the teddy bears picnic lately but I’m determined to take life by the scrotum and rock it to the max so whatever else Pluto has in store for me, bring it the fuq on! My mantra: “Pluto is my bitch, suffering is optional” (hubris much?!)
My Venus (and Mars) is in Cap (moon and 2nd) but Venus is 21 degrees. Pluto recently finished the long Saggi trek. Pretty much at the end of that my Cap BF and I finished. He intermittently comes back and is never really quite gone but I’m ok with it overall.
If’ we’re talking retrospect reeling rewind stuff, my greatest love (LOL, in my mind) from when I was young and I reconnected around April last year. It was going ok til I went all Scorched Earth over his Air. Don’t have his deets so unsure of his finer astro intricacies. He still stalks my sleep and crowds in on my mind when thoughts are busy elsewhere. It’s got to the point that I can’t tell if it’s him or me anymore and I’m good at ascertaining projection v monkey mind.
Just as an aside, love has been notably elusive since Pluto hit my moon/2nd. Ok, it’s been absent. I have been experiencing a drought amid the wet and I don’t typically get droughts. I always have options. Noooo.. not being smug.. just saying. Just a hint of blue like the type before my eyes. Of course it’s no biggie, I’ve got a great full life with/without it but it would sure be sweeeeet
and if it lasts this whole Pluto transit there won’t be much left sweet about me.. I’ll be cranky bo bo’s….grins… reality checks, feeding the drama? Perhaps.. or maybe just plain ol frustration at not being able to wield the universe to my liking 
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