I Never Liked You Anyway

Dreaming of Another World – Vogue Italia – Tim Walker

 

 

 

Yes, i know that technically this Full Moon just gone was like a massive Neural Dump of the past type scenario.  A clean-slate experience, if you prefer a more Virgo reference.

But you know how it was a Gemini Eclipse?  I am thinking it was also like a fight with the different personae within yourself.  For success in 2012, one of them has gotta go…or already HAS gone, if you’re doing this Eclipse thing right.

Thoughts??  And did any of you guys kill off an aspect of yourself this weekend (to be kind, not cruel)?  Or, did you just have general existentialist insights? One thing about a Gemini Full Moon – particularly an Eclipse – is that it will always leave you more tuned up and with the now.

 

 

189 thoughts on “I Never Liked You Anyway

  1. This is spooky. About two hours ago I was walking on the beach, pondering my current state of affairs, and I just suddenly thought: Okay, so I can either carry this old version of me with me forever, the wounded one who has had some seriously suspect luck, or I can just let her go. Just like that. And start afresh. With no damn baggage and a (somewhat) open heart. Going to give the second option a bash…will let you know how it goes…

    • Wow same as me. Feel like it is time to let my fun side out. She has been hidden for a while. Have been really focusing on leaving the past behind making a huge effort to let go of the grudges. And late last week have made a pact on myself to focus on my life goals. Not what other people are doing. I am getting serious about a major life goal.

  2. My Gem Sun was conjunct this Eclipse.

    During this week of withdrawal, I noticed heaps of self-negating mind chatter as one after another articles, phrases on self-respect blazed my clicks on the net.

    Last night, just as Eclipse was on, while washing parsleys at the kitchen sink, oh so skillfully I assassinated the self-undoing Pisces rising, nourished its rational twin (two fish swimming on opposite is now one fish) with the help of Saturn’s transit through my natal 7th house.

    But I felt lonely, even though the part of me I killed with no remorse would kill me eventually..

    This week I fell in love, then fell out of it. Another crush at a dead-end road. It was as quiet as a leaf dropping onto forest ground.

  3. I have been wirking towards major changes in my personal confidence/ chutzpah for the last 2 months. Have handed in resignation, got jack of the eedjits in control, joined a new band and started feeling like it was really time to take the reins- professionally and personally. As of today, we had our first gig, felt on top of the world and realised that the new me is actually the OLD me… Come out of the shell of self doubt and mental negative self talk that I had allowed to take over for years. Oh, and I made a clear decision a healthier physical version of me starts now too. Bugger the silly season! Mystic- thanks for the eclipse advice. On the money as ewww-shu-al!

  4. Wrote my ponderings in the Weekly Horoscopes so I won’t repeat myself. What I like about Gemini anything is the curiosity factor!!
    It was a tricky and fascinating eclipse experience for me anyway.

    Don’t know about offing the shadow self thing.. I think I am learning to stand in my power more though. Being that I am Rising Gem and I think that translates to others being aware of that too? All good!

    • Then again, I am also feeling like my light is standing out and getting beaten down a bit too by the nasties of late… This growth thing ain’t all it’s cut out to be.

  5. Yes indeed.. as I watched it complete itself in the wee hours it was like a natural release of some old ideas or aspects of self as they decided to at least loosen their stranglehold a little if not drift off entirely.

    Dare I say it maybe even a little of the old optimism I’m supposed to be renowned for came back. I can’t say at the end of today they’re all neatly wrapped up and being shipped off ‘get the fuq outta here’ but it’s not even like that. It just feels real, feels gentler than trying to rip something out of yourself whilst simultaneously holding on and I feel like every little thing is gonna be alright (yeah.. Marley popped in for that last line) :)

    It’s been a tense little period (read a few months there I reckon) and a trying few weeks where the tension was becoming palpable.

  6. I just felt angry and victimised (thinking of the past). It got so annoying that I fanged around in the garden – cripes am I finding gardening therapuetic all of a sudden!! I’m a brown thumb from way back but have kept a hydrangea alive for at least a few weeks and think I know what it needs now, plus reviving an abandoned honeysuckle and looking to mulch, buy a raised veg planter and possibly adopted a potted hibiscus.

        • Buahaha! The first thing I thought when I read the word Secateurs was”what? For the nutsack? That’s a bit extreme” and then I reminded myself to get the whole story before reacting and read on…

          Also had sudden unexplained anger burst towards ancient ex. And minor detail obsessing. I’m counting on karma to bite him on the arse, but annoyed at my brain for devoting any thought time to him!

          • They’d work on the nutsack as well. Not extreme at all :mrgreen:

            I’ve not had any luck with plotting revenge in the past – have only managed the “living well is the best revenge” bit. Every time I try intricate revenge plots they sting ME in the arse. This is not good. However, your mileage may vary.

            prowln – Just remember you are awesome :)

    • me too! felt angry and victimized by guys from the past! moving forward with self respect and making sure anyone who enters my life respects me and my feelings. I am no longer a victim :) maybe all this had to do with venus and neptune conjunct in 12th house, eclipse opposing these planets. I was blind but now i see :) and what i see now is oh so BEAUTIFUL!

  7. For the last six months, ever since my mentor left our workplace, I’ve been assessing the new landscape and wondering if I should stay on. It’s been a constant internal debate–one week it seems obvious that I should stay, the next it feels like I’ll end up in a cul-de-sac if I do so. Yesterday, I finally got it at that gut intuition level that it’s time to move on and start looking for another position, even though a part of me is afraid to begin the process and I’ve been promised new responsibilities that I’ve wanted to take on for a while. But I’ve got Pluto on my progressed Sun in the 8th house, it’s about to start a long trine to my natal Moon, and it’s exactly conjunct my Ascendant in this year’s solar return. Being ruled by Pluto, I don’t think he’s going to allow me to coast in a position I’m mildly satisfied with.

  8. Revelations…
    Unbelievable news this weekend has restored my faith in Karmic Law, and MYSELF.
    Proof, that the life changing decisions and changes I’ve had to make, were in fact, the right ones.
    No more self doubt.
    I finally have closure, and for the first time in over two years, I feel at Peace.

  9. since April I have been trying to a buy a house and after 8 months they pulled it because they said the title work was wrong and it would take months to clear it..I was heartbroken and angry because they could have told me this in April..
    so I let that go and went for another better house. Lovely, not broken and in my price..
    last Friday was the inspection. I paid 300 hundred dollars for that..anyhow, by nightfall, I didn’t want this house! Pretty, yes, roomy, yes..the basement has asbestos tile..I don’t want it!
    People, men at work say to me, no big deal, you can just scrape that tile off and remove it.
    I am a Libra dang it! I wouldn’t know about this scrapping of tile!
    Plus I think I would always worry about poison dust getting in my lungs because they didn’t remove it all.
    I feel free-er from that very mundane decision:)
    They say the third one is the charm! I am looking at another house this week.

    • My coworker has been having tons of fun trying to buy a house for the last couple of months because his lease is ending (I believe technically he’s now homeless/in between homes at this point). I get to hear about it a LOT. You have my sympathies. Though my coworker’s house is finally “on” as of the middle of this week, so I guess that’s finally getting going.

  10. The Gemini moon just had me feeling like I had a social hangover without the socializing. But…Uranus…just around the very minute Uranus stationed direct in my Pisces/Aries 7th house, I got a message from an out-of-town Scorpio tattoo artist saying he’s now single and going to be in town soon, do I want to go on a date. LOL! That man is like a living breathing Uranian transit.

  11. amazing that you picked up on this. I wrote in my journal a few nights ago about how a part of me died overnight. Yes, there is a psuedo-self that I’ve met and am leaving behind. It’s a good time to do so, to make room for truth, passion, and compassion.

  12. I had a dream the other night that kind of re-lived a RL incident of a beloved pet dying when i was little, except it only had the head of my beloved pet, the body was this sort of chimeric mix of other animals. I’m sure it means something inside of me is dying off, but I don’t know what.

    I forced myself to go to a holiday party for work, to pass out cards and make connections. I really wanted to be home feeling emo or on the computer or going for a walk. But no, my friends needed me to play ref which turned out fine. I didn’t have to lay the hammer down on any of those people. But then this fat and ugly f*&^tard of man subjected me to his jackassery for about 20 min. I was initially receptive because I am thinking, oh someone is talking to me about either potential work or maybe they have services I can pimp to others. No, he just “looking for fun”. Ugh. I try to scrape him off politely and when that doesn’t work, I pull out my phone and start texting in front of him. He’s apparently turned off by obvious texting. Good i say. For the entire 20 min and i was looking at a clock on the wall, all I got to say was my name, occupation, and where I worked. Not a conversation. Sick of the name-dropping. Sick of being like people’s free personal confessional. I went home and vomited. Times like this, I never feel thin or beautiful enough.

    • Foxy, your Grand and Amazing.
      forget the lame party and that crude man.
      Your beautiful!

      strange…Thursday I dreamed of 2 of my pets that died this summer. One I am still tore up about the way it happened. In the dream he was on fire, looking at me, waiting patiently to save him. I did. Broke my heart cause I blamed myself for his death this summer. I felt like it was him in the dream, trying to make me feel better, but it didn’t. But I feel he is alright where ever pets go.

      • Oh that’s so sad. I’m sorry that you lost your darlings so recently.

        This is what one dream dictionary site says about dreaming of dead pets:
        “To dream of a dead pet suggests that something that you had thought was left in the past is coming back to haunt you. Similarly to seeing your childhood home, a past pet serves the same function as trying to bring you back into that particular time period. A situation in your waking life may parallel a situation from your past and the dream is providing a means of resolving it.”

        As to why mine was a chimera-pet I don’t know. I’ve never owned any pet turtles.

        • oh thank you for sharing! That does shed some light on the dream. Oddly, there was someone(a human) who died earlier this year in the dream. Interesting.

          • oh and i found out something interesting about turtles. Their shells (some species) have 13 plates on top which can symbolize the moon phases.

  13. Oh dear, I strolled home on friday night (post official tedious work party) with what I thought was a hunky intelligent taurean but may have now proven himself to be an evasive neptunian type. What is it with 1975 toro men, are they all liars or damaged in some way, slightly lost since their adolescence? (from my scientific survey of two of them).

    Concerned that I did low-eclipse wierding (12th house and opposite my Neptune in 6th) not the sensual indulgence version. I mean, I had fun, but still. I don’t know about insights other than observing my attraction to potentially odd men. I was doing so well up til now. Debating showing up at work with ‘plausible deniability’ strategy this week, in case I was seen leaving with this fellow, vs. My usual strolling around the office being open and friendly, come what may, nary a care in the world. Option 2 is much easier and more fun though. Any wisdom you can add wld be appreciated.

    Normally I am so good at avoiding intrigue and especially with colleagues.

      • From one piscean to another… rehearse at home (hopefully noone lives with you or they are already used to some eccentricity?) the possible conversations designed to bust you: varying words, tones and contexts… you know, the trying-to-pry, the teasing, the gossip-firing, the accidental-bust, the knowing-smirk.

        You’ll find that your first rehearsals bring out your seething, cheesy, guilty-as-sin responses; then they are released. You will be ready to be caught ‘off guard’ and delighted by someone’s comment, it will be a joke…

        THEN you can stroll around casually cos you will actually FEEL rather more light and casual.

    • AAaaa I just realised that not only opp Neptune but the eclipse formed an exact sextile to my MC and trined my IC and Pluto.. What does that even *mean*?! subconscious new beginnings(?) Beneficially boosting public life & very personal origins?

    • Yeah, I thought when the Scorpio Uranian transit messaged me, you know what – it would be great to have a romantic adventure and have sex (which I haven’t had for years), and I’ve got my Venus in Virgo kink to explore, but I can’t tolerate bullshit. I can deal with a guy whose got economic and family problems. As long as he carries his own bags, works on moving postively, you know? Scorpios have their Saturn transit coming up, so I know he’s got realizations to come to. I don’t need someone to take care of me in life, but I sure as hell am not going to adopt a man and his karma. And his rockstar-big-cock persona is cool creatively, but not really the most interesting thing about him. And if he’s going to play hide and seek with his deeper-self, I’m not chasing. I’m good on my own. I have peace, clarity, and control of my own creative aspect. Play fair or don’t play with me at all.

      So, we’ll see. Maybe that’s my eclipse revelation: I’d rather keep things clear and let some adventures pass me by.

      • Oh, and my office holiday party had such a nervous, firey, social energy to it. People are all energetically vying for new hook-ups. At least, they were on Friday. Who knows how they’re all feeling now.

      • Funny enough this Scorpio came to a similar realisation about a Virgo, I’m not going to hunt out his real feelings or be used as buffer zone between stuff he evidently needs to sort out. I’ve never been flummoxed, out scrutinised or met anyone with a stronger emotional force field than my own before, totally out foxed by a Virgo.

        • Ha ha! Out Scorped by a Virgo, that’s funny.

          I’ve been digging the Scorpio-types lately. Mars transiting my 12th? I don’t know. I appreciate their depths and intensity. But this guy (maybe all Scrops?) I SEE them, I see the “them” they leave lurking in the shadows and never want to talk about. I figured I’d let this guy know from the start, that’s how it would be. If he’s up for that, cool, but he has to be ready to carry his own karma. I can certainly push his buttons to make him aware of exactly where all his karma is. LOL! And, really, that’s fun for me – deep intimacy – clearing new terriotory for myself and helping others do the same – but most people don’t have fun playing that sport. Most people are hiding. There’s no chance of intimacy in that game.

          Also, I just got myself balanced after a intense Neptunian thing with a locked-down, unavilable Venus/Eros in Capricorn dude. I’m tired of playing against someone’s defenses.

          • That’s how I felt, ‘seen’ and evaluated for my worthiness. It’s left me feeling bizarre, I’m just not used it I guess. That combined with his extremely impenetrable exterior, I have no idea what he thinks about me and that is enough to drive a Scorpio crazy. I must KNOW everything and I can’t. He’s hiding but I’m looking for that deep intimacy, something that means something and I’m not hanging around to eek it out of him and loose my self worth in the process. Shame because I think there’s potential for something special but you can’t force someone to give a crap about you, sadly.

            • Virgos are a pain in the ass. There’s no gaming them unless they’re borderless low Virgos who wannabe a servant. I have a friend whose been trying to get a Virgo man to open up. But he’s got to much self guilting going on to make room for intimacy. All that judging Virgos do to others they do to themselves first which leaves them often times too busy to make room for someone else.

          • JUst realised that a certain multiple Scorp in my life is my own personal zap zone. I’ve been trying and trying to connect, and I just get nothing back…

            When I think of them, I drink and entertain silly fantasies instead of focussing on the change in direction my own life has taken and focussing on the things that I need to do now. Such a pull from the past…. I realised it last night, three pints of cider in… “OH ! I could have finished my painting, instead of waiting on an email….”

            Anyway, have signed on for an Ashtanga Beginners course, starting Tuesday. Have decided to lose the last 30 kilos and the diffidence about my fitness.

            Walking along the beach path, barefoot. Have decided to lose the shoes as well (always used to go barefoot as a wild young woman) and the knickers – they just slow me down – wind drag :)

      • Hey, I really like what you have to say there. I think that’s the realisation I (hoped I had) arrived at. Even tho the easy pickings won over the usual self-restraint this time. I’ll wait and see what the week brings.

  14. It’s like the way this baby I know crawls around the floor, can’t even walk yet but motors around purpose driven and joyful, moves around like it’s a meditation,
    not bumping into anything, not apologizing because his parents have to pay attention.

    “He’s saying, I know I’m just a wee little thing, and f*** you.”

    The part of my self I’m letting go wasn’t really me to begin with. Just a default part of me I put on out of fear, anxiety, fear of abandonment. But I won’t leave myself behind again so I’ve got nothing to lose.

    • “He’s saying, I know I’m just a wee little thing, and f*** you.” Thats amazing, I love it *writes it down to remember*

  15. I had a moment the other night where I told myself that the past was the past, I couldn’t go back, I couldn’t touch it or smell it, I couldn’t taste it or hear it, it was gone. So move on.

    So I’m moving on.

    I definitely feel like I’m shedding that forever mourning personality of me and I’m trying to herd my two fish in the right direction. If I have to let go of past loves to meet my new love, I will do it. I will send them love but let go. It doesn’t mean I love them any less. It just means that I’m opening my heart to someone else.

    It’s been a Big Weekend so far.

    • That’s cool, bright, about the ‘forever mourning’ part. Is it a pisces thing (assuming you’re a pisces from that comment)? More often these days I spontaneously visualise certain elements of my thinking being consumed by flames in a white-hot furnace. And like after anything has burned up, all that’s left is open space and new beginnings. I might have to do this in matters of the heart. Bit harder but maybe I could approach it as a purification or tempering, rather than outright destruction. Thanks.

  16. I think I am killing off my personae that is unhealthy, ego-based, likes wine , etc. I’m a Scorpio with a Gemini moon, so imagine Gemini coupled with the intensity of Scorpio! In 2012 I’m allowing my purer being to shine through and by purer also mean sans vices, time-wasters, and people who just get in the way of the light. I’m an artist and I don’t need alcohol, choc. bad foods, etc to create I just hesitated because I thought I would be boring (to others) with out them but I’m willing to grow up and be boring. It’s lonely at the nutritional top but it may be worth it if I can make the best art of my life.

      • Me too! This eclipse for me was all about health realizations, primarily. Started feeling sorry for myself…like “I’ve done everything I can do already to heal” but that’s really not true. Need a major diet overhaul, something tailored to someone with immune system and adrenal problems. My man is on board, and I’m excited to do more with raw foods and healthy cooking!

      • Good for you. My party-Gemini-Moon self will have to take a back seat while her Good Twin who gets things done is going to shine.

        • DoubleMutable, I have immune and adrenal issues too. Along with a more pure diet I am going to be more selective with the people in my life. 2011 I did a lot for other people. Now its time to get some things done for myself. Also, getting back to my own creativity is essentially healing to my adrenals as well.

          • That’s a good point, Patricia. I recently entered a very supportive new love relationship while cutting off a circle of toxic, dysfunctional friends at the same time. It’s been hard and I just dreamt about these girls last night, but it feels good and is the best thing for my health!
            Do you take adrenal supplements? If so, do you feel like they work for you? I really can’t tell how much they do for my adrenals…

    • Right on! I thought the same thing about myself – I dont’ care if I come off as too serious or the typical “Virgo bore” stereotype. I know how I’m wired and I’m going to respect myself. Moreover, I want to spend more time with people who respect *their* self and I’m not going to meet those people if I am perpetually negotiating my legit needs.

      • I want to spend more time with people who respect *their* self and I’m not going to meet those people if I am perpetually negotiating my legit needs. ~YOU SAID IT PERFECTLY, 12TH HOUSE VIRGO!

        • Yeah, well, fingers-crossed I have the focus to live it. The saying bit is easy. My Aries daughter was all fired up this weekend. I noticed that with a lot of Aries peeps. I ask her to do things, she’d ignore me, I’d zone out and nap, and by the end of the day she said she felt ignored. And I told her she’d ignored me – every thing I asked her to do, when I asked her to sit with me, she blew off. Anyway – that’s the mirror, right? You can’t LET someone get away with treating you badly without committing the crime yourself. I let her ignore me and she felt ignored. Kind of amazing how that works. But it works. I don’t get to negotiate that.

          • exactly same sitch happened to me. Lusty has gone awol and ignoring my texts ( some drunken I must admit – bad weekend for it but a boring drunken xmas party will do that to a leo gal on heat).
            I’m letting him ignore me but not standing up for myself and he is probably feeling that his feelings are being ignored. aagh
            Will let it go – he is Moon in Aqua so he has gone intergalatic. I’ll just get busy and not react as I normally would jumping up and down like a 2 year old. I’ll leave him be. It’s the new me I’ve been fine tuning for a while but its 2 step backward kinda thing, Shall take a giant leap to gym now.

  17. Dreamt of crystal clear water..looked sorta turbulent at first…but was crystal clear and lovely to swim in. Down river it got a bit murky and as I swam in it I wanted to turn back. I wondered, as I looked back, if the crystal clear water had been contaminated.

    Of course it (Spirit) hasn’t but think those were my fears of getting back there.

    Yesterday casually picked up a book I have and brushed up on “The Dweller on the Threshold”. Think that’s apropo for this dualistic eclipse.

  18. What a murky week I’ve had. Don’t feel like I’ve had any major realisations that are actually practical or worth paying attention to. Other than the unrealistic ‘that’s it I’m joining a nunnery/going to live in a cave’ type crap. I feel like I can’t see anything at the moment, like there’s a veil of something in the way of my creativity. It’s such a massive infringement on my commitment phobic, multiple Sag nature when a person comes along who actually makes my brain wake up and go ‘oh’ and then the inevitable karmic hamster wheel I’m stuck on re relationships starts spinning me away from them and rationality. I realise two seconds too late that I got used again, sometimes being a Scorpio is such a penance, I’m only ever the ‘sex person’ never anything more. Oh and why did nobody warn me about Virgos? I’ve never felt anyone look through me in quite the same way. Out Scorped x 1000.

    • Oh those Virgos are quite tricky. They grow on you slowly like moss and when you are deep in and surrounded…you are like oh..crap… A female Scorp friend of mine just got totally used by her Virgo lover too. Gave her the brush off like she was like lint. :(

      I had my heart smashed by a Virgo back in 97. Luckily, that hasn’t repeated itself.

      I often wonder if I am a handy man that comes to fix broken hearts, but I try to tell myself I am paying it forward for the next life. One day I might reap the benefit of someone else.

      • Sorry Charley. Bummer.
        Went through this not long ago with multivirgo, his sex person.
        And as Foxy said….fixer of his broken heart. sigh.

        But I learned some valuable lessons and got some good things too. I won’t make those same mistakes again and continue to grow in self respect.

        Good luck.

      • So true. Instant attraction but slow burn and damn I’m hooked in. So clever, so interesting, so handsome, so on the rebound, so cold. Ugh. I can imagine being brushed away by him and it would destroy me so I’m opting out right now before I can feel like lint.

        Oh snaps Fox, I’m the ‘one after the one’, the buffer zone, the picker upper and duster offer. It’s horribly depressing.

        • Also I swear I don’t go round in a perma state of being a victim, it’s just been a very trying Saturn in Libra time when it comes to relationships, as I’m sure it has for many. Saturn return has left me feeling fairly immature in that regard too, like I need to catch up and change the old model sharpish or I’m going to be sidelined.

          • yes, you are not alone at all. Went through relationship lessons I thought I would NEVER go through. especially when saturn went over my natal pluto.

            Glad to read you were able to do what you needed to keep yourself stronger healthier in the long run. I had to do the exact same thing for the exact same reasons with my multi virgo(your description above fits him exactly), which was so difficult for me with him continueing to want to see me. After a few go rounds we have finally broken free. Feels much better now.

            Takes a strong person to walk away from something that will harm them down the road.

          • Well, a Virgo will try you on any issues of self-sufficiency or maturity. Those aren’t bad lessons and it doesn’t mean you were used. I have limited experience with Scorpios, but honestly, I think they sell themselves short. The “sex toy” mystic is quickly present with them and something they kind of do to themselves, you know? I mean, perhaps they learn to do that because they have been used or felt used before, but that doesn’t mean that’s who/what they are or what intimacy experiences must be about. I felt it from this Scorpio guy I like. He presents himself as a sex toy. And I told him he doesn’t have to play a role with me.

            Anway, I mention all this because I understand if you’re hurt and lick your wounds as you need to – but I don’t think you should feel bad about yourself, or used, or even rejected. Clearly I don’t know your personal story. But, Scorpios are watery – the mix boundaries quickly, and earth signs don’t. And for earth and water to go together they both need to keep separate boundaries – separate identies – or they’re mud. Who knows? Maybe the Virgo will work out for you yet. Or maybe not. But don’t doubt your worth. And don’t be afraid of lessons that teach you how to better honor yourself. Scorpios can’t get valued for the gold they are if they give without appreciating how much they’re worth.

            • Best advice ever, thank you! Truly.

              I don’t believe this person made me feel this bad knowingly, it’s possible but very doubtful, he has too much integrity and it actually a great person. I still feel bad but obviously that says more about me in the long run and my inability to take things as they are or avoid bad situations when I know I should. Thanks all for much needed advice and perspective, infinitely grateful.

          • ah you’re no victim Charley. Virg men are so infinitely charming…until you get stick of their “condiments purity edicts” clashing with their lack of washing before bed. I look back and I’m like….yeah…it’s probably a good thing we didn’t work out. What planets or things do you have in Virgo? I’ve got MC and venus there. so it feels like helping when I get involved….but like with the asswipe from the other night….realization. I’m not their private priest confessional or free therapist! It’s like PISS OFF! It’s not my job. I’ve had decades of paying it forward. I think I have a right to be mad. The eclipse was on my natal Saturn.

            • I have none at all, not an ounce. Even my Virgo house is intercepted, which I still don’t really understand how that plays out or works. Perhaps it’s why the men I attract always have heavy Virgo, I only just really realised. Even all the funtime Leos had a lot going on.

              Hell to the no way with the offloading or therapy, avoid like the plague and be careful not to over help, I deffo see that in the two people close to me with Venus in Virgo actually.

                • I know Saturn gets all the press as being the planet to get done, so to speak, but Venus in Virgo has been rough to deal with. Once I take someone into my intimate life, I feel a need to solve every problem they have and I see problems coming way in advance. Its a pain in the butt for everyone involved. But I decided this weekend that I would rather make it clear to any potential partner that I am interested only in individuals who care about self-improvement, painful as that path may be. I’m not going to change the way I’m wired, but I don’t have to engage anyone who knocks on my 12th house door either.

                  I don’t know if its Venus in Virgo or having Sun/Venus in the 12th, but all my serious relationships have a ridiculously fated quality to them. I’m trying not to let that make me gloomy right now. But its hard as my last soulmating experience was pretty painful.

                  • That’s right! you have venus in virgo in the 12th as well.
                    so agree…all my relationships have a fated aspect. Gets heavy. I wish I could do lighter fun dating. but no.
                    Agree, must be into self improvement.

          • Recommending for myself and anyone else, dating like you’re a teenager in the 50′s. Lots of coffee & movie dates and stay out of cars.

            “Will meet cha there kay ?”

            Let some time pass. Nobody wants to be the one after the one, hurts.

            No separated, freshly divorced, emotionally unavailables, heart- ruthless types.

  19. You weren’t wrong when you predicted bats socialising/ dating for Leo (rising) over the weekend. Utter bloody madness. The guy I like confessed that he fancies a mutual friend, who is straight. I told him this, then told him I like him, he likes me too, now we are going to meet up to talk later in the week. He is a Virgo. Grr I really like him & just wanted things to go right for once… hoping they still might. Instead of heartbreak & rejection. I am so sick of wasting my time energy & life force on this crap.

      • Thank you sweet!Really appreciate the good wishes.
        I have guessed that this guy has Saggo rising, hence the foot-in-mouth confession of amour for our male friend! I have no idea what will happen. Truth be told, love is such a minefield for me, I wonder whether I just need to blind myself to all people I find attractive, since they all appear to be destined to break my heart.
        On that note I am thrilled for your daughter, Sweetpea. He couldn’t have a picked a much more perfect day to pop the question, astrologically!

  20. Oh Wow, daughter….25 yrs old…Kataka/Sagg Mn/Scorp rising just got engaged to her Gemini boyfriend yesterday! Eclipse day…

    Eclipse was on his Gemini Mars/NN/Sun in 5th

    On her Draconic Gemini Sun opposite her Sagg Draconic Mars

    In her natal, the eclipse was in her 7th house conjunct Gemini Chiron exact 18 degrees opposite Sagg Uranus 1st house 19 degrees.

    I’d say that Uranus was a surprise..

    She is thrilled of course and I am too as he is a great guy. They have been going together two years now and next October, by the time they marry it will be three years. Think that’s a healthy time frame.

    • Thanks everyone! I will have to be sure and tell her it was on an eclipse!

      The eclipse SN was close to his Natal Gem NN @ 25 degrees, so he is going to be having a reverse nodal return…the past and the future sorta mixed up together?…They are now an interesting case study…lol…which I can only get a feeling for as there is much going on there.

      He had been planning it for weeks however and my eldest helped with finding out what kind of ring she wanted. She got a simple platinum band. She said diamonds “aren’t me” (her Saggo Moon?) altho he got it at Cartier’s which is a nice touch.

      She wants a retro dress (her Kataka Sun?) tea length and something (ceremony) very simple. These are college peeps even tho of course her dad I’m sure will help.

        • awesome insights with the astro Sweetpea, it’s nice your girl and you are so happy re the lovely guy, blessings, and good to hear about happiness xxx :)

          • Want to add his Moon 0 deg Libra, 8th.

            Dead on opposite trans. 0 deg Aries Uranus…and Uranus was shifting direct.

            Of course Libran Moon did the down on one knee somewhere in the gardens of The Huntington Library grounds in San Marino, Cal.

            He is Aqua rising and yes he even talked to my ex before he asked her. Some might not consider that very wild for an Aqua rising!

            But his natal Saturn/Pluto 27 Libra trine his Gemini stuff…mars, nn, sun.

            He is going to be having his Saturn Return anytime now. Crazy how the astro stacks up, no?

            • Wow it sounds amazing Sweetpea, boy sounds like he’s living with total integrity for Saturn return…three weddings of young ones in my family this year, all gorgeous and in love :)

  21. That’s lovely! Wow, mega news!
    I definately did – I spent a day talking to myself and have decided to get rid of the part of me which goes against my gut feelings – I have only just started doing this and it takes guts . So the astro at the mo rings true 4 me.

    • good for you. Over the last few months I have really started listening to my gut instincts and acting on them. Can be difficult at times. Good luck.

  22. Yes Mystic, definately in tune with this eclipse. I had an amazing conversation with my highly intuitive mother last night. She clarified and illuminated many things that I have figured out for myself, mainly regarding a romantic relationship which is no longer serving me. I am ready to let it go now and I have decided that, yes, I DO deserve better. I deserve an ocean of abunance! I am breaking it off the day after merury goes direct..and clearing the space for amazing things to enter my life. My mother was just waiting for me to come to her with my realizations..she felt it all along.

    I hope the eclipse is boding well for all of you as it is for me!

  23. what a week….Bricks on my head and heart.
    sick, still itchy, daughter itchy.
    Dreams of dead pets, exhubby trying to help me, and a crazy energetic vortex.
    Miss my family so bad it hurts and they live so far away.
    I need to make money soon and figure some things out but it is so hard with business so slow and me so sick. Being to really worry about how I am going to pay the bills soon.
    Been questioning why I left my husband and if it was a mistake(almost 3 years later). …heavy. But the two since him, glad they are gone.

    No big insights, just reminding myself not to go backwards.

    Went to 80s party and had fun. The clothes us women had on were great. Met a saggy sun/gemini moon man who was sooo quiet. Felt an attraction but don’t know if he did. It is hard meeting guys here in such a rural setting. And then when you do, you have no idea when you will see them again.

    • Goodness FF, sorry you are so sick! My heart goes out. I know what a concern it is when one is short to pay bills.

      God speed with some blessings for you! xo

      • Thanks Sweetpea. Feeling pretty good this afternoon. I totally emo-ed out this morning with moon in cancer! But then went uphill. Talked with my aqua son while we hung out. Got my virgo on some more and got more housework/decluttering/home improvement done.
        Plus, the adorable painter was back. He finished the two sides. It looks so good. What a boost to feeling further along on all these house projects. Afterwards we chatted for awhile as we have done on several occasions. So wish I had the nerve to ask him out, but need to do some recon first.

        Foxy, thanks. I agree. First instincts are usually right. Like with mulivirgo, when I saw him around I was magnetically drawn to him, but there was a weary feeling I had, a warning of sorts. This saggy guy, it is weird how he isn’t my “type” but the draw was there. Hope to see him again to talk more.

    • Yes, and? Lol! It was same for my sis, but she is astro unattuned and I tried to ask her how her Saturday night was but she is not very into ‘feelings’..for various reasons right now… So how was it for a Gem Moon?

      • 8O

        :lol: Ohhh yep!

        I had been inundated with feelings leading up to the Eclipse – at least a few weeks before & had major shifting re grief – but also I have been working on major overhaul of the psyche for a while. So in one way it just amplified some of the work I had done, which was a tad overwhelming, and in another way it was fine because it just felt like I was moving on from it, I need to move on from it. Some of the stuff is trauma related so it has taken major hard work to shift it, and I need to get body work to deal with some of it, although I am not quite ready for that… 8O

        • 8O

          I also felt EXHAUSTED! I know, lots of people feel this but I DON’T get exhausted – Mars in Virgo and triple conjunct Gemini. It was weird, it was like I had been swimming at the beach all day… I was knackered!

          8O

          • Sounds like with all the work you’ve done that was a HUGE culmination on the eclipse.

            Your natal Moon was eclipsed….deep…hope you rested and get lots of rest still.

            I have been sleeping heaps..just heaps for a couple of weeks now. Guess with the eclispe in my 12th I needed to dream and have been dreaming lots. x

          • I feel exhausted (still). Have been for the past 3 weeks. Which is very unusual for this Gem as well. Usually overflowing with energy. People are starting to comment that it is not like me. But apart from that, this eclipse has been fantastic. As said above in a post feel right on track to achieve some major goals. And feel like I have released alot of anger. Maybe processing this is energy zapping (Actually more like partying on the weekend).

          • If I remember right, think some time long ago you had a dream that had “double Moons?”

            This eclipse would entail “double Moons”. Maybe a premonition of your healing process…

          • You were probably swimming all night in your dreams, or doing something exhausting! Poor BGem.
            Actually ended talking to the Gem Moon sis today, she sounded like she had more perspective than in a while.
            I think there were so many realisations and layers to this moon, it will probably resonate for many weeks or months for you Gem Moons, she is 16 deg, so pretty bang on for her too. Xx!

  24. This gemini eclipse build up has been MASSIVE for me.. love, work, family ALL having issues … but no one talking about them… me remaining silent until post-eclipse to delve into. fuq’n hard as patience wasn’t my forte (note the use of ‘wasnt’.. not isn’t.. as now im all post eclipsed calm and totally invoking patience as new mantra de jour)..

    On the weekend I found something i have been wanting for ages and just could not organically feel/find – the passion for fairness and truth which drives my work. This sounds soooo boring to my Gem sun, sagg moon ears but i feel really peaced out and in control again because of a work solution… My work now feels like love and not labour… and the lover, family issues feel like they will just work themselves out… Feel re-newed!!! xx

  25. i laughed at this post title – my thoughts exactly!

    and this morning, realising just how energetically drained i actually was by the eclipse build up – build ups are doozies aren’t they? i am rarely one for sharp, crystaline realisations – mine come by scooping up a pan of sludge and running your fingers through, you come up with something a bit different, larger, harder, softer, and you know you got a nugget to keep in your breast pocket and you don’t quite know it’s weight yet, or combined weight, with all the other bits you’ve picked up along the way, but one day, the penny drops!

    Just to mix up a few metaphors, and tenses. All good though.

    • Oh my lord I have their cd….was only a couple of good ones on there tho (as far as I’m concerned…did they have more than one cd? I don’t know)

      • That what I like about this clip, the 24 year old women are redoing the songs they wrote when they were 18. And the tempo is like double, watch Torry beating those drums. She ruined out her shoulders and wrists and had to retire, she beat herself to destruction.

        But yeah, The Donnas have a ton of albums. Check out The Donnas Turn 21 or Gold Medal. Here’s a vaguely astrologically related video from Gold Medal.

  26. Well i’ve had an v.v.interesting few days too, well two weeks really…totally been seriously preoccupied in very worthy – super fast lightning like – soul growth schemes :)

    With Jupiter in Gemini in 4th…there were two roads i could have taken, short/inappropriate/empty/meaningless/lower-like or long term/higher soul/delayed gratification…for awesome fireworks or networks in future, as in next year :)

    i took the path of discipline, (didn’t realise i could harness so much of it) and realised soon after, that this will have positive ramifications for my potentially meeting a far more appropriate, absolutely awesome partner in the future – because of how i handled myself in this situ…or a more timely/beautiful/appropriate Venus/Mars interaction with ?, next year if go o/s, as been invited to a couple of situs, ahem.

    I’ve had the most beautiful and unexpected Mars/Uranus transit in my 4th…and it sure did hit on my Asc…(a surprising lift for the Venus in me i never could quite believe really existed, esp at 45 years old and despite all my Saturn in Pisces Asc serious self downering of the past) hahaha,

    so lessons about the ‘real’ beauty/higher love of Venus, power and relationships big time, which is all my core healing in this life, i now see more than ever…

    To sum up i did Saturn discipline, patience, Pluto truth and respect for my power potential and vulnerability of/power over others, and Uranus – staying happily in the moment with it all and light airy openness, (despite full on powerful ‘xplosive’ Venus/Mars type mutual OMG tensions for 12 days…OMG…yes, what a surprise it all was for me overall – i was literally stunned all this was happening in ‘my’ life…’my’ home…and to ‘me’…). So learnt to ‘relax and surrender’…it looks better on me.

    Awareness majorly in that i saw my Venus conj Mars in Aqua 11th and my Pluto conj Uranus in Virgo in 7th dynamic operating clearly & i so grokked it and worked it.. it was all made easier by my Taurus moon & other’s Taurus compatibility, as well as vigorous Aries physical outdoor activity and refusal to dwell on the negative or unreal or unsustainable.

    A brave, soft, honest, higher loving, respectful side of me took matters in hand, and explored fully then the higher ways of ‘romance’ with another, that was truly creative, gorgeous, meaningful, melted both our souls, and turned all the physical tensions into the deeply heartfelt, worthily and unforgettable friendship bonds …it was profound experience for me ‘spiritually’…other’s Chiron is same deg as my Taurus moon…I’m forever changed and uplifted in my heart today :)

  27. Seriously, the cosmic joke is greater than I thought!!
    I have merc 18 pisces/uranus 18 gemini
    My ex-husbands ex-wife ( the one before me)
    Who I haven’t thought about in 35 plus years finds me and opens with a really provocative statement on a message in facebook.The high road was mine to travel and I know I navigated it properly.
    Another part of the past has been healed and I am greatful.
    Happy Holidays to all!!!!

  28. Moon in Gemini and Uranus in natal Aries, I always felt this eclipse would be tres important and it was, spectacularly so. My (soon to be ex) husband finally went on his merry way after a week of dragging his feet to move solo into his new house. The anger has lifted and at last I feel my heart centre opening again after eight months of supressed emotions. I feel energised to the max due to Uranus going direct and I hope the 5 month career rut ends too. The effect on my two boys has been equally positive.

  29. Hmm, currently grieving over Gem Sun Cancer Moon man who has gone from being wonderfully attentive to downright cruel and mean. Like he wants to get rid of me, I guess this must be a good thing and I must evolve.

    • Ditch that guy. Cancer Moon ladies are rockin’…..Cancer Moon men are best avoided IMHO. They are the most vengeful pieces of crap I’ve ever encountered. Lock your door at night. lol.

        • I heard a guy say that guys will be mean so you will be the one to break up with them!

          Had the pleasure of telling an ex “and you were mean to me”…Hope he thinks about that the rest of his life.

          Course double Leo Mom used to call Aries dad “a mean, miserable, rotten son of a bitch”…

          Don’t know how much he later thought about that over the years :lol:

          • Sweetpea, that is so true. It means the guy is a rank coward. The Toro did that to me so he can feel like the “good guy” who gets dumped. Takes 2 to tango baby.

            • Best thing there is just quietly get up and go. No “break up” no arguments no ‘splainin’… lazy arse can figure it out for himself.

      • ooo really?? Thanks as I am feeling really hurt, strange for my Aqua sun and Aries Venus/Moon I think, normally I move on but can’t, he has me trapped.

        • Move on! Leave him! It will be over anyway, but the sooner you leave, the more of your ego and self esteem can be salvaged. It is soul destroying being with someone who is mean and cruel to you.

            • Trapped? AquaRam, baby, sounds like this meanness began long before you realised.

              Hurt is ok, you’ll just need some tender time and healing time. Go now so you don’t get shredded. Noone puts shredded back together. I’m with Lucy. Godspeed, girl xxx

              • Had my self esteem kicked to the gutter, yes, even for a Ram.

                Taken me years to get it back. Heed the advise of others here and don’t let that happen to you.

                Feeling trapped is because you ~must~ take your power and excersize your WILL…

                • On a softer note AquaRam, if you do, you will surely receive a blessing. You know when you feel trapped, so does the Great Goddess…she lives and breathes thru you. x

                    • Thank you guys you are all so lovely, the kindness of strangers. I have no idea what it is about him but he loves me chasing him and I do it like a little lost puppy begging for scraps off the Gem Sun Cancer Venus and Mars! Probably hard to believe I am Aqua sun Aries Moon/Venus Virgo rising!
                      Thank you all so much, you are truly lovely xxxxxx

  30. I’ve emerged from the Eclipse feeling totally cleansed and energised. Last week’s monumental blow-ups broke a dam of long, outmoded, self-imposed restraints of being polite, nice and pleasant. Yeah, I know I should feel sorry but I don’t. I feel absolutely as if I’ve emerged on the ski slops to a new way of being, the toboggan run to the Next Great Adventure, moving over the Rainbow Bridge whenever. I have polished myself into being brave, bounteous, beautiful, bodacious, brazen, brilliant, mouthy, gorgeous, glowing, opinionated, stubborn, feisty all packed today in a bright red, goddess dress. I’ve just had a good friend describe me as a living legend which is think is pretty damned nifty. Think I’m boasting? Yeah, damned right, same advice to all of you – don’t hide your light under a bushel. Be a beacon! I am no longer going to be tactful and diplomatic. I loathe and abhor all “isms” – fundamentalism, whether Christian, Islamic, Hinduism, socialism, capitalism, socialism, fascism, nazism – because they all antithetical to a free, brave, adventurous, passionate world respectful of all – and if anyone doesn’t like that, to quote dear old Rhett Butler, in Gone with Wind, “Frankly, my dear, I don’t give a damn”. Brilliant words, eh? Oh, and since goldfleece’s inspiration words about apps, I am focusing entirely on writing my book, the dam gates on this have burst too, it’s as if all the ideas I’ve had have suddenly got themselves in order and are lining up to pour out into words. Forty-two pages so far, 31,000 words, and about one hundred pages in other material I’ll be importing. I had a dream a while back that I had to write 342 pages for my book, so ploughing on. Thank god for eclipses!

  31. A profound and exhausting weekend. Having shifted back to my home town I had to deal with family members that I had forgotten I had gladly left behind. I indeed killed off the persona of the ‘eternal giver’, ‘victim’, ‘passive woman’. It is interesting, I read ‘Women who Run With Wolves’ prior to moving away nearly five years ago…to step into a highly abusive relationship. I found the book again when I was packing and have consumed it voraciously. I wasn’t ready for all of it’s message five years ago but now every page rings with truth for me…I hand back to my family and friends (the ones who have not changed at all over the last five years) the task of how to cope with the consequences of the profound changes in me…For me, my authentic life is finally beginning and I relish every moment of it!

    • I love that book, Saggisue. We left some incredibly dysfunctional relatives (of my husband) behind after livingi n the UK for 2 years, and I know one of them is still mired in bitterness (because she couldn’t control us, heh-heh-heh). So glad you’ve enjoyed ‘Women Who Run With Wolves” and are now living a truly authentic life. Shine that light, Babe!

  32. Well, I drove by myself in a car for the first time today in a rental…and then the rental broke down. What a mess. Whee, Uranus.

    • good gawd…rentals and breakdowns beyond our control…right?

      First time I drove a stick…circa 18 yrs old or so, I drove it into a pole. Aries, eh?

      16 years later, was like a fish to water..magical…don’t know how it happened but it did…

  33. ugh, i slayed my ego Kali style on 11/23 my birthday…but she is such a strong beast that she rares her head a la zombies. After this eclipse I felt a zinginess of a fresh persona…yet tonight i feel a certain frustration of loss & wanting to stew in this retrograde communication funk. (& yes I am a saggo…with locution skills-I link to think so anyway.)

  34. The day of the eclipse was the day of my solar return and I don’t feel different except that I had a lovely evening with fabulous friends.

    I would think that it would mean change but I’m still waiting…

    Am I not tuned in?

  35. Another vote for “uhhh, spooky” here. Laid to rest a not very nice part of me last night (Saturday). Hope that’s the last I’ve seen of that cruel, spiteful bitch!

  36. Wow, this is crazy! After reading the post, I checked my journal and here’s my entry for Dec. 7th. (after a quick rest in the middle of the day):

    “Now I am somebody new. Somehow, during my brief rest, I dropped who I’ve been all my life and became someone new. Interesting.”

    Mystic’s prognostications have been so eerily accurate lately.

  37. The eclipse was on my ascendant, and I’m including my experience purely for research purposes (and at the bidding of MM).

    I had: news from an ex after a very long time apart, vindication of my intuition with regards to the situation (despite talking negatively to myself about my gut feelings for an insanely long amount of time and trying to dismiss them as wishful thinking), quite a bit of bittersweet sorrow, some confusion and ‘wtf?’-ness, and a decision yesterday that it’s time to bid farewell to the horrible part of me. The side that treats herself like dirt and tries to look on the negative side because that way there’s no ‘false hope’ (I mean, really. WTF, me?).

    If I had a friend like that, I sure as hell would ditch her, so the time has come to cull that albatross and work on some new neural pathway habits.

    PS Any tips on how to do that??

    And PPS, yes, MM, you are insanely spooky! x

    • Fleeing pain by not having “false hope”. Yep, I think we’ve all done that. Taking the moment for what it is and squeezing all the goodness out of it, not worrying about the next moment or “where this is going” or rules about what should be happening now — if he doesn’t do this or that, it means.. — being completely thrown out is the only way I’ve found to find true peace in relationships. When we are fully happy, that positivity brings so much goodness into our lives.

      Moving on is so often a part of life and must be learned to be accepted. We change, they change, we’d like a different flavor today…who says things have to stay the same for happiness? Sameness is comfortable and change can make us feel insecure. We fear loss and the ability to get what we want. But we don’t have to. If we feel we can have anything we want, and we can, we can let go of situations that have become less than optimal quite easily. And feel really good about it. If someone “rejects” us, it’s only moving us along. Rejection is only having an inaccurate perspective. There’s really no such thing as rejection. There’s only realignment.

      Life is constantly moving flow. Stagnation breeds decay.

  38. Try giving the parts of yourself you do not like compassion first.
    If your best friend confided in you that she had done something stupid would you ditch her ? You would tell her she wasn’t that bad and to learn/reflect and you’d make her some tea.

    Wise teacher told me to treat some of the hard stuff like a meditation.

    • i was just thinking that too. all these people for the most part are helping each other unconditionally. i love that this technology is an opening – a window or a door.

  39. Wow. wow. wow. Saying goodbye to an inner persona is the perfect way to describe this weekend’s eclipse.

    On Saturday, right around eclipse time, I told myself “You have to forgive yourself for the mistakes you made as a child in order to grow up” And I knew that I had to let go of the scared little girl persona I’ve held inside of me, the girl who is messed up and has made so many mistakes, in order to move forward with the rest of my life.

    Later, I had a dream that I was flying, quite masterfully, about my city. I woke up feeling brand-new.

  40. DoubleMutable, congrats on the new relationship! Good for you! Rest (emotionally and physically) is your best medicine. I have a long history of trying out many supplements. I do a mix of Sunrider (a multi-level marketing brand) and ayurvedic rasayanas from a company called Circle of Health. http://www.ayurveda-herbs.com/

  41. yes clean slade…so true this did happen things from the past old lil hurts and peeps emerged tot he surface…waiting to get dumped..out of my system!
    l never liked you anyhow stuff just feeling like shouting it out mercury 9th h here argh! But no! not wasting energy.
    This eclipse fell in my 10th h. and also things about my carrier kind of came up. Like wtf??
    l had a blast! it was good! it felt liked getting out of a prison or something to me!
    Still processing all the new insights and l think it would be best to write them down before forgetting it all!
    if only! great stuff this full moon was the BOM! for me!

    l

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