Suddenly Leo
“Oh lady, oh wow.
Can I just say- and yes, I know I can- I am so excited to have found your website. Is that still a question? I found it two weeks ago, subscribed last week (yippee!), and am shamelessly neglecting my work (I’m a librarian – tons of shizzat in Virgo, whatever House it is that’s all about organizing- I forget which one- I’m a Virgo in that) to read everything. Lilith, thank you. Men’s torsos, yes. It’s like you have a picture of me next to your computer screen and you’re like, “How can I make this girl’s day better?”
But then checking up on the Leo stuff (and baby, I just found out two weeks ago that I am hours into Leo, and not in fact a Cancer, and that Makes So Much Sense- I don’t care too much about praise, but other than that, yeah), let me just tell you wow. The hair? Yes, fear of frizz. Half my hair fell out this summer (divorce’s a bitch, but hey, I lost ten pounds) and I just spent $300 on hair accessories online. Not kidding. Shopping spree if I’ve ever seen one and I don’t do manic. But yeah, got to fix the hair and thank gawd it’s wavy so people can’t tell . . . too much.
Great stuff, Medusa, great stuff. Keep it up.
Suddenly Leo, Shanghai”
So exciting to be suddenly Leo! Has anyone else ever been in this situation? If not Leo, another sign?
Remember ages ago i mentioned my friend who realised she was Sagittarius and gay on the same day…
Nice image and post MM. Thank you. xx
I remember finding out I was a Leo rising, not a Virgo rising, and was a bit shocked cause my sister is a Leo and we are totally different. Like I’m reserved-quiet, compared to her Leo Sun with Gem Rising. But I have Saturn in Leo natally, and in the first. So my Leo is a little restrained.
I also remember suddenly learning (from my astro teacher, mentor) that I have three planets exalted in my natal chart – Jupiter in Cancer, Moon, Merc – and all placed well. That was a sooper day for me.
spent most of my life thinking i was a Gem and then discovered i was Toro. made a lot of sense in the end but quite disconcerting for a while, like a change of identity and the Kataka rising doesn’t make much sense to me, i don’t get that one at ALL!
i don’t really understand what it means with lilith in gemini in 11th.
would anyone happen to know about that?
‘saggi and gay on the same day’ aaahaha
the closest i’ve come is realisng that I might actually have moon in 8th house not 7th. the difference is about 4 minutes in recording birth time. Either might apply.
Planets/luminaries at the end of one house are interpreted as being in the next house. Not sure why. Eg my son has Moon in Aries end of 7th house and it is interped as in the 8th house. Too lazy to research as to reason why – it’s somewhere in my brain, just forget right now why. My Venus is at the very end of my 4th house and I experience it in both my 4th and 5th houses.
Oh my god yes- always thought I was aries with pisces rising- fire-water… always befriended (uneasily) pisces women and had one female friend who was also aries sun pisces rising… and who was rapt to find a fellow contradictory or internally torn being… it was our excuse for being confused and conflicted artistic souls…. but with some proper parental memory recall- lo and behold! super, uber aries… aries sun, aries rising (plus three other planets)……. makes sense… discovered this just before saturn return……. but what the hell do i do with it now?
Go crazy, Broadway style!
Thanks UP, will do, channeling Liza as we speak…….
Co-signed!
Make that stage yours! Also add some All of the Lights and you’re unforgettable: “turn up the lights in here, baby, extra bright, I wantch’all to see this!”
watch out for wacky stuff happening and don’t get zapped by Uranus in Aries – go for it and be weird!
How awesome for your friend to realize she is Sagittarius and gay in the same day!
MM, when does this Leo Revolution you speak of begin? And as for the mousse in the streets, I hope it’s dark chocolate as well as extra-hold!
dark chocolate mousse!
I think MM means hair mousse….
can the mousse have gold sparkles?
obviously, but dark chocolate sounds good.
My progressed moon is in Leo and I’ve put more money into my hair than I’ve ever had. I let it grow long, had a straightening procedure done and bougnt expensive blowdryer. I wonder if I’ll finally get organized when my moon goes into virgo.
I’ve been reading up a lot on the 12th house (Sun, Venus, and Neptune there) latelyy, and I think I’ve been having that “suddenly 12th house” feeling, where I’m like, “oh yes, this explains my entire life and what all my problems have been.” I had always previously ignored learning anything about the 12th house, thinking it was rather unimportant.
When reading up on astro for friends, I’ve never had such a profound sense of comprehension as I did when I studied a friend’s Moon-Neptune conjunction in the 12th, so I know what you mean. It unlocked my understanding of my 12th-house Sun-Neptune mother, my 12th-house Moon son, and my own 12th-house Mars-Neptune. Consider your 12th-house Sun/Venus/Neptune as a treasure trove that you can mine for riches the deeper you delve.
I remember discovering that my moon was actually in the 12th house and not the first (virgo). I can relate to you lee about that “12th house feeling” as an explanation for the course of my life. I have a 12th house moon, venus, (both virgo) and north node (leo). I finally understood why I didn’t have the typically virgo traits of obsessive organization. I don’t live my life by hem lines (though I do notice them!) This is in part why having a first house moon in virgo never made sense to me.
I totally get understanding the whole not having typical traits for your sign. People are always shocked to find that I’m a Sagittarius, because I can be rather reserved and laid-back. Totally explained by Sun in 12th house.
I like the idea of my 12th house being a treasure trove to explore. There’s a lot in there!
I feel like the 12th is a treasure trove myself…..I always look at the 12th house first. I am a cancer sun and my moon is in leo in the 12th. All my leo energy is closeted. My venus is in virgo in the 12th house, conjunct my ascendant. Honestly, i feel very Piscean with this 12th house energy.
I love the book Your Secret Self by Tracey Marks. It is about the 12th house.
Fusciafairy, forgive me if I’ve commented before on your Leo 12th house Moon, but I follow it closely because that’s my son’s Moon also, and it really is a conundrum with the extroverted Leo energy being in a contemplative place. One of his teachers described it this way: “He plays his cards close to his vest.”
That Marks book is phenomenal.
AAAAHHHH !!! LIGHTBULB moment !!! THANKYOU once again to the wonderful denizens of Mystic Medusa.
My LEO is in my 12th house.
I’ve been sitting here going “I don’t have any Leo, none of this applies to me and anyway, I have a dreadful cold and my fur is drooping and I dyed my hair the wrong shade of henna – its not glowy enough, and I have nasty little sore patches on my head and astrology doesn’t apply to non-glowy people with horrid colds”.
ROFL !! And I was hoping to feel better cos my Ruler Pluto went direct today. SHOW ME THE MONEY ! I say…
oh spooky… just this very second my phone went off and its my henna supplier saying she’s got my cherry red back in…. actually have goose bumps… glowy here I come….
“Astrology doesn’t apply to non-glowy people with horrid colds.”
oh, i love that…he plays his cards close to his vest….yes perfect. My local astrologer says it is the perfect placement for a puppet master. I also think of other behind the scenes creativity, like costume designer.
My twins also have leo moons, but in the 7th house.
I can see puppet master in broader sense as well, as in the regal Leo reigning over his subjects, but from behind the castle’s closed doors.
ah interesting. my good friend potential biz partner is leo 12th house moon AND mars (not really conjunct kind of a handshake) he struggles with it a bit (early cancer sun getting some serious zap zone man training) and as I have no 12th house (part fortune actually) I wonder about the expression of people with this as the interp varies endlessly
a treasure chest hidden under the sea, if you like!
heaps of mega-creative-imaginative types (for a living eg, B Dylan tapping into the collective unconscious) have 12th house moon, mars or neptune planets.
i have mars in 12th. i was hospitalized alot as an infant/ child with a lung condition – my astro teacher says thats 12th house mars for a child (if i was just unwell it’d be 6th, but hospitals -being confined is 12th house energies); i also work well on my own – can do insanely hard-yards / long hours on my own — thats working in a hidden way / hidden strength.
i have the moon ruling my 12th house (and the moon is exalted in my 10th) — i do well having time-out on my own / meditation / healing and getting in tune with the haute-pisces vibe — i totally get fushiafairy’s comments below.
I still don’t think I understand my gem moon in the 12th. It’s still a mystery to me.
I dunno davs, you have quite a universal, metaphysical consciousness. You do the boundlessness thing rather well and I can get the ingenious Gem take on it.
The thing about the moon is because its unconscious or instinctual it often something you do very naturally without being conscious of it or intellectualizing it I suppose. Kind of primal.
how fabulous you have gemini moon!
does any of this sound like you: a dynamic communicator, writing, poet, loves cinema, imaginative, light-airy-fun to be with, crafty (do you like to play little tricks just to get away with it/ entertain yourself?), debating, always on the mobile/laptop/ twitter accounts you name it, read magazines or short bits of info (Oscars, guiness bk of records type info) rather than a virgo who reads every freakin novel they can get their paws on, etc
i know a gem moon man and the only true way he relaxes is by seeing movies – like two or 3 in a row, and he likes to sneak in – not cause he cant afford it, but gem moon like little crafty-witty games.
someone will hav to help out with 12th house; but it sounds like you have mercury ruling your 12th house – writing, comms.
what sign do you have mercury in and what house?
I have merc at 0 degree Aries, gem asc. It’s that darned 12th house moon. Funny about your friend. When I was young at school like 3rd class they had put me in the D class on assessment. My saviour was that in my day there was one exam at the end of the year that graded you to go in to 4th class, no teacher assessment. Turns out I came 2nd out of 120 kids. Duh, little did they know I had read the brittanica that year and had taken an interest in every time magazine I could get my hands on. They just never asked ? Like a mental sponge, I knew hundreds and hundreds of little facts about every fuqing thing..much more than I know now. I was the know all of nothing, just knew a little bit about everything.
A real smartypants, but only if you ask.
Merc in Aries the 9th stationing direct.
the brittanica / encyclopedia – little bits of fact- info is gem moon. your story is a gem moon in 12th story! for eg., your gemini ability was hidden /unexpected – it surprised you, and your teachers who ‘just never asked’ – thats so 12th house – a hidden treasure story that when revealed is like a golden ticket.
my friend knows who won what oscar by each year – its freakin bizarre. and he knows album /tour dates little facts about a whole bunch of artists. loves the gemini artists too, like kylie minogue.
mystic has mercury in aries i think. communication that keeps it real…?
my sister has gem rising – she party’s, is life of the party, looks young, ages well.
emotionally dexterious, a real go with the flow kinda guy.
(I am thinking of the lovely story of your happy kids)
For months after I was first learning about astrology I thought I was a Cap. ascendant. I didn’t question it bc I related a lot to the description since I have a stellium in Cap. But then I find out my mom told me the wrong time! I was like omg I don’t know myself anymore. Turns out I’m an Aqua rising. I had an aha moment when reading the description. It makes more sense to me now why I’ve always felt so wierd or out of place.
I’ve never had a thought-I-was-one-sign-then-found-out-I-was-another moment. But, once I started studying Astrology (and especially started reading this site) I discovered that I was Aqua Rising/Moon, and suddenly it was like OF COURSE! That explains it!! I could never quite reconcile some of the aspects of my personality as being Cancerian, specifically the distant/extreme loner/misfit/rebel thing. It’s like I had finally figured out who I was. So liberating! In fact I now relate so much more to my Aquaness then my Katakaness.
Funny same for me but other way round. Aqua sun but Kataka rising & moon (in 12th). It solved at lot of mysteries about being security conscious ie financially & love of old crap. Also, I noticed that during the years where I was grappling with coming back from the brink of mental illness the emotional side reigned.
Same here, JKA! When I discovered my moon sign is Aqua and my Ascendent is Gemini, it was such an ‘ah-ha!’ moment of things clicking into place. And likewise when I look at the men who are drawn into my life.
A similar experience recently when I read up on my Lilith in Pisces… that was a combination of “NOW I GET IT!” and pure horror due to the manner of the description in question I was reading at the time.
When Mystic said my Lillith is in Aries in a consult, that was a decimate ah-ha moment. Relating to how I behave with men, when I was younger & now.
well, not me, but my partner’s step-aunt always insisted she was a kataka i queried this (she sees at least one movie a week, likes bright shiny objects,has the gift of the glib, has a lovely quicksilver personality – no offence to gems out there: my BFF and partner and about 10 other friends are gems!!) and eventually got a time and date for her birth and discovered that she was actually a gem! back in 1920 something, the sun moved into kataka 3 days after she was born she seems to have coped with this news remarkably well and delights in telling everyone she’s a gem (for the past coupe of years)
Haha. A native gem sits comfortably with several identities
yeah tell me about it! as i said, bff and partner and other (multiple) friends are all gems their personalities seem to multiply when in proximity to other gems bff and partner love this and freak me me out all the time (aries etc) grr
I found out I was suddenly Sag Rising when all along I thought I was Capricorn Rising. When I was 12 my hippie new agey aunt took me to a psychic/astrologer to have my chart done, as a Confirmation present, lol. He said I was a Cap Rising. A few years later I asked another astrologer online about my chart and he told me I had Sag Rising. Apparently the first guy didn’t factor in daylight savings time, so it was off by an hour, which bumped my rising sign up to Sag.
Both signs have qualities that I embody but it took some time to realize that I didn’t have to give in to the melancholy and low self worth that can plague Capricorn. With all the intense and moody Scorpio and the Virgo Moon in my chart, a Cap Rising just added extra earthy heaviness. Imagine finally coming to terms with being so serious, critical, judgmental and well, just plain sad sometimes…only to discover that you’re a firey ball of energy who should be enjoying life, not apologizing for your tactless and honest observations or worrying endlessly about money and work. Suddenly its ok to take risks, go on adventures and stray off the beaten path! Its ok to be happy and not have a reason for it!
Veeery neg take on Cap rising Lauren !!
If it didn’t fit – well hey I’m soo glad you found yr bounce with Sag, I love my sag mars too, but my cap rising may be at times serious, but actually I more often feel criticised & judged than giving out those qualities …
Am Saggi with Cap moon.. and the Cap ain’t ever dulled my partying spirit or even my experimental or intimate spaces. It isn’t really that heavy an energy. I have a Taurus rising too. Hey it all works or you make it work for you. I prefer to focus on the strengths when I’m not focussed on the negs… LOL.. yeah sure, it happens to the best of us =)
sag rising means your entire chart ruler is jupiter — you lucky girl lauren!
according to my astro teacher its “natural brilliance.” and virgo moon is a love of serving – do you teach / instruct, nurse/nurture, into natural therapies/ healthy living? (or moon – may be more to do with these quals in a mother)
Oh, I know Capricorn has plenty of positive traits, as all signs have their dark and light side. I’m not getting down on Capricorns, I just identified more with some of the darker traits than the lighter ones for a time. I once read that Capricorns don’t know how to be happy. Not that they can’t be happy or don’t want to be happy, but for them it doesn’t come naturally. They have to learn it and work at it like acquiring a new skill. Whether that’s how many Capricorns feel or not, it was something that struck a chord with me, especially in my angsty teen years before I had my chart redone.
I have a friend who decided to come out as gay on a Leo / Aquarius full moon.
This made sense, after years of struggling to be straight and wondering why it didn’t work out. Then I checked the ephemeris and there it was : Sun in Leo in the natal chart in close opposition to moon in Aquarius. Couldn’t have picked a more appropriate time and she knew nada about astrology!
When I was a kid, I read Linda Goodman’s book, according to which my rising sign was Aries. I tried to act like one, tried really hard, failed colossally…say for 15 years… Once the daylight savings was in, thanks to astro.com, my rising sign turned to be Pisces – which explains my oddish looking feet.. With Neptune in the mix, now my life catapulted into another series of mess
Born Aries but the descriptions in the books never seemed right. Then a few years ago I discovered I have 5 planets including the moon and Saturn in Taurus all in my 10th house. Suddenly it all made sense.
I remember the first day I realized I was a Cancer rising (Pisces with CA rising) – someone apologized to me. Of course, it kind of hurt my feelings D: and that is why I will remember it for always.
Wha? I love katakas!
Kataka is such a great sign, people should stop giving it flack. I absolutely adore my Kataka side.
New to going deep into my chart other than being a typical Aries (triple) Always thought I was cancer rising but my red mane knew the truth. I feel so Leo all of a sudden and am going the whole hog with ition terms of playing with a new look to the extent I have grown out my layers and vibing the biggest thickest coiff I’ve ever dared. I have recently begin to embrace my Virgo aspects in Pluto, Mars and Uranus – total control freakery but phased by nothing and uber organized. I have Gemini moon but don’t get that at all.
I know, I know….does she ever shut the fuq up……(and Soz off topic
Mystic but just HAD to share this one last thing)…Remember I wrote some threads back about men having usually played some transformational/helper role in my life…
Came back to tell you that one’s life can change in just a moment and the “Suddenly” of this topic prompeted me to share..
I met someone…Was sitting in my car at the drugstore ready to leave when this really cute guy (man….43) popped his head in my window and made a comment about the sun beat paint jobs on our cars..(desert heat..). It took off from there and I spent the whole afternoon over at his place…Yes we partied a bit and I gave him a massage (he’s a massage therapist too). Months ago I had met his mother at the drug store so it was just like too weird, ya know? He couldn’t get over that and he kept praising God about all kinds of things…lol
Yesterday totally platonic tho..I made that boundry distinction…
when did his body work…
He’s a Toro (great sound system….;) , Mercury in Gemini….
But my Venus on his Sun and his Venus on my Sun/SN/Pof..
The kicker and why he has been heaven sent is because his Libran Moon on my NN…just what my NN needs I think and his Venus on my SN…there is a history there from somewhere…
Mars in Sagg… I needed to tell Mystic about the Libran Moon (like hers…
and that trans. Venus was on his Virgo Uranus/Jupiter/Pluto yesterday when we met…
….enter Sweetpea….
If we end up only friends that’s actually fine. I just loved hanging out with him and having tons of laughs. Just knew I loved him from the get go and it does not necessarily mean sexual…Just as a person, heart to heart…
Tarot lady told me years ago that sometimes we have to give certain things up to get something else. Yesterday I sacraficed Mystics (just because also on a different time zone and it’s hard on me…I tend to stay up way too late and noticed my patterns)
And because I must focus (incredibly difficult sometimes)… Yes, Prowls I still love you… x
Over and out….lol Come back somewhere down the line and let ya know what happened…or not!
sounds awesome for you Sweetpea & i like how you’re confident that it will be whatever it might be, and it might just be out of this world in a good way heh !
Such a great story! Thanks for sharing! and be careful with those Toros!
;D
Sweetie, if you are still around to read. ABOUT TIME!
It’s all about TIME if you ask me
Happy as for you, a kind of serendipidy isn’t it.
As you are a Giver i hope you get Given to now.
xx
omg Sweets! – Honey, I am cheering all the way from Illinois !! You are so fabulous I am soOo jealous of HIM becuase he gets to hang out with YOU !
Oh I love ya doll, and you deserve all the wonderful friends in the world and if it blossoms into more, that’s great too. This makes me very happy tonight ! I am so happy you have someone to appreciate your wonderful sense of humor and your thoughts, because there is so much in your deep still waters, even just what you have shared here, with us. Hugs XO
ps. watched Letters to Juliet last eve and wow cried buckets, I’m such a romantic and you and your story has made my day !!
You go Gf on your new quest Your advice and love have been invaluable to myself and many here at MM.
Miss you already xx
Love you sweetiepie x will miss you
Well, a drugstore pickup has the potential for some peculiar outcomes, lol, but I trust your judgement is pretty good by now. Keep us posted. You’re a darling person Sweets, and deserve the best. And he’d better treat you right or he’ll have a high strung Virgo feminist on his arse.
Don’t stay away too long lovely Sweets, we need you here!!
xx
aw SP miss you already but i totally understand the late-night chaos of staying online xxx see you round.
yea….wonderful to make new friends, no matter which way the tide pulls.
Yes, do drop in and give us a little update! This is juicy stuff. We love you Sweet lady!
When I think of you, I see a golden afternoon, clay pots and aloe vera baking in the desert sun, peace and that drowsy sense massaged muscle warmth… Spread your lovely vibe throughout the world, we come and go, relaxed and easy. Xx.
Oh Sweetpea! So beautiful! (Sad for us here, but surely you’ll check in from time to time to regale us with your lovely life chapters.)
God, beautiful voice on these pages, lady Sweetpea. Just imagine, folks, how she’s gonna rock this chap’s sox off. Okay, okay even as friends.
Love xxxxxxxx
Great SP! Love the astro connections in yr charts and sweet meet. As for Taureans – just love them and have recently discovered the joys of the male Toro variety myself, so sensual, centred and relaxed. So happy for you, but don’t stay away for too long. xx
It’s like you have a picture of me next to your computer screen and you’re like, “How can I make this girl’s day better?”
Great voice in the letter. Could this be more Leo?
When I first erected my own chart as an adolescent, I used tables. Like Lauren, the tables didn’t account for daylight time. For many years, probably around 10, I thought I was Scorpio ASC. Color me surprised to turn Libra/Uranus rising with the help of astrolog back at the dawn of the internets.
I’ve been asked by more than one astrologer, “What have you got in Scorpio?”
A: All the right people.
I think I still play Scorp for some because of the Mars-Pluto, with local space Pluto and Neptune exactly due east.
Ha ha, yes I remember you related that story about your friend after I had mini nervous breakdown on discovering my actual birth time.
Firstly, Australians, you should be able to get your correct birth time from the hospital you were born in IF born after 1950 or so – your mother’s recollection is NOT trustworthy!!!!!! CHECK IT.
(Of course it could be MY mum, we celebrated my bro’s birthday on the wrong day for 14 years, he was so offended).
Will never forget trying to log in and the internet not working for five minutes after I had the actual time, I was scrabbling at the keyboard in a frenzy!
Anyway, I thought I was Leo, Rising Aries, Moon in Saggi – but no, I was Rising Gem, Moon in Scorpio. So I went from being Fire Trine to Andromeda, whose biggest astro feature is actually a …water trine.
It really was like finding out I was gay or adopted or something.
Andromeda, i really hope you are feeling being, less caged.
As i relate the month of Virgo about regeneration & health
focus, just as i had made a series of physio & spa appointments
to shrug off the winter hibernation, i came down with a life threatening
illness. Has to do ‘hospital’ at home alone.
I was suffocating.
Then i read what Sweetie said about suffocation being Heart Chakra!
Slowly i had been suffocating in my environment by DVN’s attitiudes
& behaviours.
Believe illness to be a sort of spiritual crisis and that change is needed.
LIberation has come of it, as the sickness came on the day i quit tobacco
after 3 weeks of counselling with cognitive therapy, yes, depth psyche stuff.
Woha, heavy or what. A purge of the old to prepare.
A kiss and a prayer to our Health. x
Indeed lovelies, a kiss and prayer to you health. xo
oh dear, and my typing lol. *your health, our health, to infinity and beyond
(sat next to bestie in typing class…years later, I pay)
Thank you Pegasus, I totally agree that this is in the realm of a spiritual crisis. Crap. I mean, I have never dedicated myself wholly to the world of Spirit with more direction than I do now?!
I am doing a reno on a space for a therapy/temple room,
I have freebie crystal dreaming people booked until the end of the year waiting to be seen,
I meditate every day (that is amazing considering how busy and exhausting my day can be!), I was vegetarian till my fit, but Gem Hub has insisted on meat being part of the diet as I am low iron/mag/zinc/iodine/Vit D/B12, stuff epileptics really need…
How far does Spirit need me to go? I feel like my Crown touches the Source a third closer than it did pre the fit.
In FACT, tomorrow I am doing a Pranic Healing course which I had been looking forward to for many months with a remarkable woman to crown my learning of the last year. I contemplating if I feel well enough to do it.
I feel like sh!t tbh.
Anyway, I am sorry to hear of your illness my darling Pegasus. I hope that we both work out what is needed. I always remember someone saying that healing does not mean jumping up in the pink of health, sometimes it means transformation/death too. I found this deeply comforting, a flash of understanding.
Being relaxed and accepting, indeed loving, of whatever the next step best for us is the miracle for me. I am obviously a little tense or I wouldn’t have had the Kataka lady who did my EEG this morning screaming, “Relax! Loosen your jaw!! Now the back of your neck!! Relax!” while I am thinking, I am relaxed? Ha?
Sending much love to the green emerald & living crystal that is your glorious heart chakra darling. Xx.
xx
same for me andro. My bday was celebrated on 16th for 12 years – it never felt quite right. Now its the 18th yay!
aha mo when found out I had eros in scorp right after meeting the Lusty. Soo cool to share that with him and of course its our secret (aside form you lovely peeps). He has Aries NN and eros but won’t face it.
I think Aries NN and Eros is kinda sexy! Eros in Scorp, well golly.. Day 9 (18th) idealistic, clever and yearning for the spiritual, both my kids are Day 9 babies, sweet.
My father is obsessed with exact time and timed me at 8:58pm. Always thank him for that.
Same here. Having an Astrologer for a mother means you can probably trust she got the birth time right, but then sometimes we look at my hair and history of spotlight hogging etc and have gotta wonder – 10 mins earlier woulda made me a Leo Rising, but, as you’ve noted before Ms, it’s still a 5th house sun and a f***-off 1st house stellium, so, y’know…
Being into astrology since a child, I made sure everyone had the exact time on their watches and checked right away at my kids’ births…..my virgo ascendant needed it EXACT thank you.
My husband was watching the clock at my kid’s births and bringing the pooter into hospital so I could do their charts asap!
Lexi, I would have LOVED an astrologer mum, lucky man.
haha. word xx
Ha .. That was a crack up, you freaked baby !
That’s for you andromeda x
Yeah, soz, that was kinda whingy… lol.
the more i delve into astro the more i see there’s something of so many signs in me…which help me coz they make sense/give confidence in the good bits and give me so direction and hope for the not so good…which no other system encompasses in one go…there’s several ways to look at one’s moon sign using other signs i’ve discovered which are very helpful…
my latest insights have come through Mars…like if it’s not real, ie. visible and concrete why do i spend so much time on such ‘intangibles’ or information-like-gluttony, when i need to focus my diffusiveness to be more successful in the outer world
so i thought ‘yes’ work on my body is real and visible, painting and design is something visible and makes me feel good, when tv/reading books for just myself achieves nought…and i thought once i get over my own problems with a bit of focus and consistency, i’ll truly be able to live my Neptune, now prog on my asc and give my humanitarian spirit to the service of others
A long time ago, I checked out my natal chart at Astro theme. I stil keep that chart. It said my rising is Virgo. So I thought to be Virgo. Several years later, I checked out mine again, Same hour, birth place,..every info was same but it said Regulas rising. Suddenly Leo born-plus, Regulus. It makes far sense when it comes to one thing-I have one astro twin around me. Around two hours apart. I looked more like her brother than the astro twin. The reason is that my astro twin’s rising is Virgo(Looked like Marion Cordillard). her brother is Leo(looked like Sting). Then, I started raised questions. What if my birth info I have known is wrong in some reasons.. like adoption thing? Additionally I just found my moon degree is shown differently in other chart. Isn’t that important? Moon degree is the only thing which is different from my astro twin!! -of course rising, house and some asteroid.
Eventually, I felt void being into astrology and started believing in something more authentic-my self. Plus, respecting asteroid and house, and rising. Suddenly Regulus accepted the truth of universe. Succumb destiny.
Furthermore, ‘Suddenly Regulus’ found Relugus falln to Virgo.?!?!?!??!?!
I thought I was Kataka till a couple of years ago when I discovered astro.com, courtesy of Mystic. I was sure I’d seen horoscopes showing my b’date as cancer, and figured the others were wrong. have a lovely silver crabby charm/pendant that I don’t wear anymore.
But other peeps picked it before I did. I used to describe myself as Gem/Cancer cusp … and they pointed out I behaved more like Gem.
I know when I thought I was kataka I used to think I should be more home loving. But I find it interesting the way some of us talk about being able to do or be xxx now we know our sign, as if wearing the wrong label has held us back, or we’ve been trying to conform to the wrong set of instructions instead of just being me.
WEll, I just found my bag is Ferragamo I thought it was Bur/Vuitton.
Then, My nanny told me that my real father is DarthVader.
xoxo
I am just who I am
So we’re half sisters then?
My SHOES are Ferragamo and 20 years old, never been soled.
A real smarty pants..is this your third or 4th sign in name?
twisted bullshitter. you have problems w Ferragamo?
No I have issues with those that snipe Myst on one thread then continue to use different names to snark on others…. Another mental loser, sheesh. Just pick a name and stick with it, or is that to straightforward for your special needs ?
Oh who cares DavidL. Its a public forum. You don’t own it.
I do ahole, is that ok ?
Total trash. You don’t even face your problems. Deal with you anger out there before poking at everywhere.
Nothing quite like that no.
Though I was surprise, when I looked up my chart at a friends insistence, to find that I had an Aries rising and a Leo Moon.
I had always assumed I must have a lot of earth in me to balance out my insane Cancer water vibe, but no… not much at all. Mostly fire and water. lol
Leo Sun and planets but I forget about my water ascendant and wonder how it affects. Does it temper, calm the fire a bit or just water me down.
Fire and water make a powerful substance: STEAM.
When I first discovered astrology I used a very rough guide to work out my rising sign and mistakenly thought I was aries rising for six months. Made doubly embarrassing by the fact that I had bought myself a red coupe and had a ram emblazened on the bonnet to honour this. When the real rising sign was revealed as pisces , it made a lotta sense. I mean I did mostly get parking violations rather than speeding tickets
lol.
And now you have a submarine, a blue one?
A cruise ship, thankyou, Pegs
3 cars later and now I take the bike, bus, train, plane. So I can blog on mystic as someone else takes the wheel
Love the sound of your Ramzilla car Twinfish !!
Reminds me of ”Mylo’s Muscle Car” song. xx
My first chart in ’88 was done in NZ and had me as Aqua rising which made
sense to this old hippie and the age of Aquarius and all.
Wasn’t til i found MM and Astrodienst that it was Cap but that made sense
too as was older and more Cap Dedication than Aqua Space Cadet.
It was discovering all the 8th house planets that really blew me away
and the Moon/Neptune conjunction. Explained almost too much.
A kinda OOPS.
One of the counsellors from the Quit-smoking group asked an Astro question
to me and we found out that we both receive the Daily Mystic. She a Psychiatrist.
We agreed how wonderful it was to wake up to MM saying Hello Lovelies &
the Stay Amazings’ every morning.
SO ASTRO IS BEING BROUGHT INTO DRUG & ALCOHOL COUNSELLING.
I think it’s easy to confuse 2nd house for rising because 2nd is where u act out your talents and choose stuff, so it’s something u can strongly identify with. But I think u lucked out as a cap rising, especially if involved in healing work or therapy.
And I echo your praises for the daily MM !!!
Sorry to disagree but the BESTEST ever real life witches i trust to be grounded, pragmatic and GROW things while HEALING in a cheekily dry realistic manner are CAPRICORN. No lucking out… but basing the healing on what is REALLY REAL, plus a healthy dose of something quite else. LOVE LOVE LOVE the Cap magic.
I think you misunderstood the turn of phrase ” you lucked out ” . Where I live this means you were blessed with good fortune/opportunities.
And for the reasons you outlined , Milli, precisely why tis helpfl to have capricorn energy in healing/therapy work. The work stays focussed and the energy builds , from firm foundations. Plus the she-goat acting at best with the Earth , not against her.
Yeah i reverse read it! Thnx for clarifying. Where i live noone speaks properly and the same expression means various in diff people’s mouths
Hiya TFR, maybe progressed Asc has 2 do with qualities expressed too. I am now into an Aries Ascendant and loving it.
Aries Asc rocks!
so true ! astro helped me immensely, explains the way I think, my default settings. With Neptune opposite moon & square 8th escapism and addiction was my way of life until a few years ago. Wonderful your consellor is using both, Pegs !! ~All good blessings on your journey~ x
Thank you all my little Darlings, it may be that the dancing shoes
have been put away for ever.
Have a powerful urge to head to QLD, a desire to hear frogs, be around
water and gentle people.
A health crisis shows that some radical changes are necessary.
Have always felt a rapport with Chiron and the Wounded Healer
that your own wounds give you the compassion needed for yourself
and others.
blessings
Pegs, QLD is lush haven after the big year of rain , following a long drought. And ya know what else I just noticed , another flood blessing, fewer biting ants! Hey, I know they’re necessary for the breakdown of material into soil etc but during the drought u could hardly sit down anywhere in the bush or the park without getting bitten. Their peak cycle has passed and they have been flushed out for a while. Sad, for them, but they’ll be back. Nice for fleshy bods that like to sit on the earth
WELL once upon a time I had firmly believed that astrology was a crock of shit because I didn’t think I was anything like Leo. I think I was around 11 when my mom bought me a children’s book about astrology? And I remember strongly identifying with the section on Scorpio…
Fast-forward many years later and I’m starting to realize I’m more Leonine than I thought. Still can’t explain why I’m so reserved and almost painfully shy, when Leo is supposed to be an attention-seeking star, but at my core I could feel the Leo in waiting… Then a friend mentioned her Rising sign, and I thought, what? What’s a Rising sign? I asked her and she directed me to astro.com, where my eyes were finally opened! Like, I could hear “A WHOLE NEW WORLD” resounding in the background…
I AM Leo but actually have more Scorpio going on in my chart than Leo. Scorpio ascendant, Pluto in Scorpio (even though it’s an outer planet), Scorpio Lilith and Venus in the 8th house. Then my Aqua moon explained all my love for underdogs, unconventionality, the unorthodox (all these UNs
). Not to mention my weird bouts of emotional indifference, which prior to that moment just seemed bi-polar because of my other intense bouts of sensitivity (all the water in my chart).
Oddly enough my chart doesn’t say that my moon aspects my sun? But apparently the Aqua moon is opposite Jupiter in Cancer. Didn’t make any sense to me until I realized my Jupiter is at the end of house 8, so in the 9th house, where my Leo sun is. That’s the only explanation I can think of because technically Aquarius shouldn’t be opposite Cancer… Hmm.
Yah, I have mixed earth and fire grand trine between my sun in early Virgo, plus moon and Asc in late Aries and Sagg. I totally get its effects.
I know a leo rising by the way, who is not using it — always hiding her light under a bushel, but I reckon that’s her Cap moon restraining her somewhat. As she grows older I expect she’ll grow into the full Leo rising and will increasingly move toward centre stage. And I keep encouraging her to do that.
Oh I love Sagittarius! If that’s your Ascendant lucky you.
While my True Lilith is Scorpio my Mean Lilith is Sagittarius, though honestly I’ve yet to figure out the significant difference between Mean and True… And I’m just now realizing that my Sun in the 9th house puts a Saggo spin on my Leo? Yes please!
What is your friend’s sun sign? It does seem like the reserve of a Capri moon would “cap” the wild ways of Leo.
Is she into astrology? I’ve found that the more I learn about my chart the more I learn to work each aspect of it. E.g. my Mercury in Virgo. Used to be sorely disappointed in it because I felt it made me too uptight about certain things, but I’m coming to terms with it trying to use it to my advantage!
wow. a grand trine mixed element. interesting..
Most astrologers say that our rising sign our modus operandi from an early age and our life’s work is to fully embrace our sun sign, ie if we are doing it right we are more our sun sign as we fully develop. Our moon is autopilot, where/how we flee when the going gets tough (eg kataka moon into our shell), and what soothes us too. Of course it’s way more multidimensional and complex than that but that’s the basic gist of it.
not sure I agree FF. I’m becoming less my Sun sign and more my rising sign but that could be because Pluto is sitting there right now. Hehe.
Hey gorgeous Cappy, I think this has more to do with you being a very powerful Plutonic Sun (ie without revealing too much darling). There’s the aspect to yr Asc and think @ that plutonic conj * yr planets/pts. We’ve had this disagreement b4, I’m sure. Love it if u moved up here, xx.
I don’t believe we’ve actually disagreed on this before but I did save your astro interpretation from Oct 2009! (Mars in Virgo likes to keep interesting info). I’ll have to read it properly later.
Only aspects to Asc are: Venus Square, Mars trine & Sextile Saturn
I’ll let you know if/when I get up there and we can have a chin-wag over a cup of strong coffee
I have a grand air trine. not much in the way of trines really cause my chart is a slice of pie so I am more conjunction queen. my chart swings from saying I am too sensitive for the world or I am a bulldozer. thank god my ruling planet is in the sign of balance
Sometimes I wish I had something in Libra so I could be more diplomatic (I have 0 Libra). Not to say that I’m a crazy dictator, but having 6 planets in fixed signs and a fixed Ascendant can make a person just a little stubborn.
Looking at my chart now, I see have both an earth and water trine.
make you focused though!
she plays the long game
have you checked out the sign / house / element of key asteroids (apollo, eros, psyche, etc.), p.o.f, vertex, lillith, descendant, south node (even if you may not have planets in descendant – look to the sign on the cusp)?
i agree with ms. focused, plays a long game, and doesn’t give in/up easily – v important.
on the other hand, being a libra is sometimes like being as friken sensitive as a hellium balloon – wafts and floats and when the bubble bursts/ is pricked (that’s often) it’s a shock. it’s also tiring running everything through my diplomatic filter in my head first before i take any action.
ms i think youre totally cool – you have a dry wit, detatched, cool air vibe. grand trine is pretty freakin great. do you find it hard to put weight on? i mean, i hope this isn’t too personal writing/asking that – but my interest is that lots of air or merc in a chart may indicate a tall, slim/thin person, a bit like a professor look, whereas the more water dominant in the chart means hard to drop weight no matter what freakin diet fad is going on.
more importantly, do you hav any plans/vision for your grand air trine energy?
im libby sun also, but earth dominant.
hey Roses. ty very sweet. funny you mention weight been an issue only recent though kind of fixed now. for years yes, totally could not gain weight, like ever. hormone issue – fixing- now back to 8/10. But yes, tall sylph like. very svelte. Peeps on here have much more interesting grand trine action mine. I am not libby sun sorry my ruler is pluto and in scorp so I am water sunmercuranus 5th house then a wad of saggo 6th. grand trine is asc (gem) pluto (lib)4th eros (aqua)8th
earth dominant lib sounds awesome. venus with her feet in the ground
*sorry pluto libra, of course, but I am scorpio sun with the conjunction as above* x
scorp sun, of course, the mouth/lips/teeth image is scorp.
water sun and air trine energy is a nice balance. this is based on – sometimes air (mental, ideas) signs are drawn to water (feelings) and vice-versa because of the way they express or lack an element.
pic is my attempt at astro humour. I am gem rising with merc conjunct sun and lesser conjunct uranus in scorpio 5th house I felt this was appropriate. fang hotted up mouthpiece.
I am balanced in elements but heavily planet bound (virgo, scorp, sagg) in one sign (bar air/ grand trine) hence weird pie chart. venus conjunct neptune sagg 6th or merc sun conjunct as gem is rising are my features, that air trine is super tight though and I have Mystics aqua problem only its with aqua venus peeps dancing on my eros trine. Like some kind of electric vortex love triangle.
what are your deets?
hehe, excellent astro humour (chuckled when i read it and looked at pic – clever!). I would definitely agree and say that Gem is THE signature of your chart. Totally cool – makes me think of edgy, witty clever song writer (you know Dylan, but more up-and-coming Laura Imbruglia. I hope i don’t offend, but her writing is v gem, poetic like Dylan at the mo, imo – I only draw a comparison to her and your pic/astro humor cause i think she’s a new return to cool, like you).
One question I have (before i get to deets), how does your virgo handle your gem rising? do you party hard and then self-guilt afterwards?
i ask because my sister has gem rising and is leo sun and she wrote across her school bag when we were at high school ‘life’s a party’ – so true for her though, even today.
haha. so true! I mean, I am kind of retired party wise, t’was my whole job/ lifestyle/ stage/ clubs etc (when I stopped painting went into performance etc ) but yes love a good do and then I guilt afterwards if I go too hard -would go on a macro water booster diet but sometimes not guilt at all and drive with the pedal on permanent GO. Guilting would be more “am I allowed to go this for a living?” as I tend to just make up my own work and fail when I have to do the straight life. I need loads of time to self and create but yeah very true. clever pants aren’t you? x
thanks lovely Ms. (my virgo loves being old I’m clever, and so does my leo for that matter too!)
Keep shining!
earth dominant but balance with air (libra), water (cancer), fire (leo) – my personal planets. – jupier in cancer in 11th, uranus in scorpio in 3rd, neptune in saggo in 4th – the outer planets. -saturn rising
-My chart has a Capricorn flavour (saturn rising (in my 1st) and earth dominant, and cardinal sun and stuff).
-mars-jupiter in cancer, mercury-venus in virgo. i’m my own muse atm. i don’t do limitations. i’ve got my shit together. i have jupiter exalted but its squaring to my sun in fall = i create my own opportunities but at the cost of getting exhausted (hard square aspect).
i think aspects tell alot more in a chart, perhaps more than the stereotypical stuff of signs?
saturn rising is an underestimated hotness I think. kind of strict. Fun to crack the shell. Do you attract wild peeps you have to tame like lions? Really interesting mix with the cancer 11th. I agree re aspects to chart, I have 2 exact conjunctions and that trine and thats pretty much me down. having shit together sounds nice, I really respect peeps that make their own opportunities rather than expect life to come to them. thats where the power is. kudos.
Saturn rising in 1st and Jupiter in Cancer in 11th is like a mixed (contrast) bag, I think. My saturn is a bit reserved / restrained / strict for sure and she can pull out authoritarian if need peeps to take me seriously. It’s also got that ‘old soul’ even as a child – I’m way younger and more playful now, but a was serious child. my jupiter in cancer (together with my leo) shines a beacon of light to everyone and wants to help/care – and in the 11th – I just can’t stop networking. it’s exhausting.
Thanks again, makes me feel nice!
I remember finding out my moon was in Libra and things making a lot of sense—my love of beauty, strong sense of justice, difficulty making decisions. Then I found out I also have Mercury, Venus and Lilith in Libra .. things began to click even more. I knew I had a lot of Virgo qualities, but I felt like there was a lot more to me than the sun sign descriptions I read, an intense appreciation for the arts, etc.
One thing that struck me as odd and actually caused me to do a double and triple take was my Mars rising (granted, it’s in Virgo). But the more I thought about it, I began to recognize that part of me too … growing up in love with punk rock, always trying to appear tough, etc. In recent years I’ve come to think of that part of me that tried to be more masculine was a way to avoid showing my softer, more vulnerable side to people—but maybe it is Mars, afterall! To be honest I don’t know an awful lot about Mars rising in Virgo but that’s my interpretation for now .. ;P
Also, just to throw it out there … do you (Mystic, readers) consider the Sun and Moon signs to be of equal importance (i.e. are equally ‘you’) or does Sun / Rising always take precedence? I tend to find I can’t always make “full” sense of a person until I know their moon sign (women especially).
Maureen – I’ve got Libra Rising AND Libra Ascendant. But I got the time of my birth wrong the first time I had an astro reading and she talked of my ability to manage money and my groundedness. Gee whizz, that was right off, and when I got the right time off my mother and found out I was Libra Ascendant, it all made sense. And knowing my Moon was in Aquarius also helped me understand my need for space and independence. I think they all rock together, to be honest!
What is the difference between rising and ascendant? I thought there was none! I have Mars conjunct Ascendant in Virgo and Virgo rising .. so is it still Mars rising?
Yes, planets conj the Asc are rising.
maybe late for this thread but a question if i may:
If the planets are in 12th but conjunct Asc. are those planets still rising?
agreed. you can do a reading on sun-moon-ascendant, for best results.
sun = the solar path youre trying to achieve;
moon = what you do or should do to nurture yourself; your habits;
ascendant = mask we wear to project to the world.
as libraquarius noted – understanding them is the key to unlock the wealth of your chart.
if you are working with your ascendant-moon-sun then you will feel fulfilled, happy.
moon is sooooo important, always. but becasue it is linked with the yin/female/mother energy it is somehow considered secondary to the sun hence we say sun-sign, our calendars are about following the sun. this, i feel, explains gender inequality – it’s not just a social construction, but also astrologically women/moon/mother energy is less valued in society than the sun/yang/male/father, but equally important.
look after your moon – and do the things associated with your moon sign when youre sick / unwell, feeling upset. catering to your moon will help you listen to what your emotions want/need. ie., a torro moon may need a bath tub, picnics in gardens/parks sourrounded by trees, hug trees, money in the bank to make them feel secure and relaxed. leo moon loves drama-acting, movies, dancing. aries moon may need to work-out and compete in a sport almost everyday or he/she will feel flat. libra moon – take em to a cup cake shop for morning tea, and they love to be surrounded by beautiful things/art works. pisces moon – the venus loves/ attracted to pretty things, their needs may sometimes have no boundaries.
thanks for the info.
i read a lot of the same online, but wasn’t always sure what practicing astrologers / astrology fiends truly thought. i find i doing my sun / rising sign comes pretty naturally .. like you’re driven to take care of yourself in some ways, but the moon is where you make a point to take time for yourself and relax, etc. personally whenever i’m stressed i am almost always looking at pretty photography as a way to calm myself down.
also, my libran need to imitate others is totally seeping out .. i’ve switched to small caps (which actually is my preference). was going to change it once i noticed what i was doing but thought it’d be more interesting if i kept it as is :p
no worries Maureen.
i’m not a practising astrologer yet – it’s just a hobby for now.
Wow, that would be cool. Im still unsure whether im Toro rising or Gemini, as im right at the end of the Toro rising. Do doctors round off the time at birth, like i find it hard to believe that I was born exactly at 3am??
Anyone else have this confusion??
If it’s that close you get to choose. Which do you prefer ? that’s it.
Aries rising, not Taurus!! It explained a hell of a lot and now I just let it unfold and enjoy the results.
LOVE this!
And what a lucky girl to find out she’s a Leo!
OF COURSE! It’s my first choice for my next incarnation.
Your kidding, right ? You… Leo ..ha
c’mon she would ROCK leo. she can rock anything
Mm maybe ? She’s got good hairbrush skills, hmmm ? but I think she prefers spanking to grooming. it’s a backward step
with her character though she would be the kind of woman queens would be dragging for centuries. man eater hair flicker gold diva
Yep, the sort of lion that eats the lamb.. No laying around with lambs for her.
thank u darling
I’m talking about my next life, you Aries pest! I mean I can’t possibly do Virgo again, can I? 6 Virgo points, both my parents Virgo (arrrghgh), my nemesis brother with a Virgo stellium including Virgo rising — even the freaking dog is a Virgo!!! Enough already.
So, why not a Leo in the nextie? Opera singer! Or a film director — I’ll make the 21st century equivalent of Citizen Kane — with hair like Dolly Parton and a Berlusconi tan! Yes.
I could work my way round the zodiac.
And ‘you are’ is spelt ‘you’re’, preshuss.
Ok, ok, Leo it is and I personally blame all my spellun errors on my iPhone, actually come to think of it it’s all Steven jobs fault.
I misunderstood my partners’. Loved m.p’s Saturn +Mars in Leo. Found that Moon+Jupiter in Leo instead. kinda- less love.
Our Progressed Sun:
Hey Cancers… if you’re over 30 and less crabby than in times past, well guess what?… You guys are now expressing more of the Apollo Leo ego-identity. How does it feel little crabs?
Im under 30, and my progressed sun has been in Leo since I can remember and I’ve never felt it that strongly for some reason. Though I have been hair-obsessed my entire life…LOL.
That’s cute SourPatch. The hairy flair of slashing bold hair! Have you seen yourself as more bossy, or having more leadership swagger socially?… or do you tend to retreat into your shell when drama hits the fan?
Heck no, I go straight into my shell when there’s any outside drama. Dont really care to be the center of that type of thing. And I’m definitely no leader, I just prefer going with the flow.
… and late degree Gemini’s now in their 40s and 50s. Go Leo, go!
I remember when I wasnt sure if my Rising sign was Cap or Aqua (until mother came up with a definite birthtime). Sometimes I’m still not sure..LOL. Im a typical Cap Rising in some basic ways, but in other ways I’m not. I guess it doesn’t help when you have Saturn conjunct Uranus too…LMAO.
Ive only become aware of my Leo moon just recently. Lived my life associating with Virgo and neglecting my hair. Where now?
Onwards and upwards! Lol.
and to scheming a leo hair do.
Ps. the best hair cut i ever had was from a virgo. of course, perfect, but being mercurial – she had moved on by the time i next went to rebook.
I meant mutable (also mercurial)??!