Mercury In Capricorn: Let’s Talk About Work – 2

Old Hollywood

David Hedison on the set of The Fly (1958, dir. Kurt Neumann) (via 20th Century Fox: Inside the Photo Archive)

Take it from a man who clearly knows that of which he speaks:

“In your career, you must be so careful, otherwise you get caught in a particular image and it’s hard to break.”

This is SO poignant.

Hands up who has a five year career plan or whatever.

Citing your Sun Sign and/or Mars-Saturn situation – do you plan way ahead or wing it?

Are you proactive in career reinvention or do you sort of trust to fate to bring the right opportunities your way?

Do you have a rad work ethic or do you secretly wish something “would happen” so that you could be drinking Blue Devil Hoochie Juice on a beach someplace?

Is the work you are in now something you would have wanted to be doing when you were about 14?  Or would the 14 yro you look at your life now and scream?

Have you altered your strategy much since the G.F.C. and what is your Pluto in Capricorn gameplan???

161 thoughts on “Mercury In Capricorn: Let’s Talk About Work – 2

  1. Libra Sun, Mars square Saturn

    Wing it, the moment I know what’s coming around the corner, I don’t want it anymore. Always just do whatever I’m really passionate about RIGHT NOW, and opportunities show up if I want to take them.

    Always been really lucky with employment, never had to face a job interview, people just offer employment, no questions asked, as clueless as to why that occurs as the next person. And friends have come to me to write their resumes only to find themselves instantly given an opportunity, 100% success rate on that. (Guess I could freelance resume writing if I’m ever tight on cash ;-) )

    I have zero work ethic and am convinced I will at some point build a little cabin in a forest of Norway and live off the land and read books and be a beekeeper and drink lots of wine and bake lots of pies and never ever ever wake up before noon.

    What I want to do changes every week so I don’t think my 14 year old self would be all that surprised. I was quite the rebel at that age anyway, how dare the schools think they could determine where I ought to be at 9am! :P

    Planning some Uni time for languages, Mercury is currently transiting my 10th house, guess now would be the time to lay some groundwork on that?

    • Darling, your work ethic is truly there in the form
      of working the land. A guardian of bees, fantastic!
      Building a mud-brick or wood cabin. That’s work.
      You just want to choose where you put your energies,
      as we all should be able to.

      • true, thank you for the change in perspective, Pegs.
        guess one could say zero duty ethic, not wanting to hear the word “should”, but willing to work where happiness and pleasure can be found, and bees can be taken care of! :D

      • smooth in one area mean chaos in another. ;) i really just have to credit my pluto placement, as i learned at a very very young age, to just accept whatever world showed up at my front door every morning, and not clutch onto anything. it’s smooth because i don’t offer resistance. :)

  2. I had a 5 year career plan thing that kind of emerged as it happened. I finished it last year and I am on hiatus working for my parents (both good and bad) while I prepare for the birth of my first babe. By the time I go back to my field (a field in which i can branch out and do different things) I will probably start developing another career plan, only short term. The thought of doing any one thing too long feels suffocating and stagnant.

    Sagg sun…

  3. Ugh! All I have been doing since March is sit and wait and think about how much I HATE my job. Nearly gave my notice this morning before I saw your warning in the first work post. Won’t say much because I REALLY don’t want to talk about work right now.

    I am a Virgo and I always like to plan ahead and I always have goals etc but then stuff just ends up happening and my plans crumble and I fall into other things. So basically to preserve my sanity I should just not even bother with a plan.

    My 14 y/o self would just be happy to be earning money I am sure… My current age self hates me for making me work jobs that I loathe.

    I am usually pretty good with work ethic but lately I have just been waiting waiting waiting for something to happen so I can go travel and sit on a beach somewhere drinking Blue Devil Hoochie Juice for as long as possible.

    Hopefully something will happen after March. That is my hope. Wahhh Thursday sucks. Enough talk of work and back to work. sigh.

    • Have a plan A plan B then plan C.
      A wise-man said ‘if you can go live in outer
      Mongolia for a year THAT’S freedom.
      (choose a country Mongolia only an example : -)

      • welll…. apparently ” true freedom requires sacrifice and pain. Most human beings only think they want freedom. In truth they yearn for the bondage of social order, rigid laws, materialism, the only freedom man really wants, is the freedom to become comfortable.”

        I’d say I really only want the freedom to be comfortable. However I do just want the opportunity to test my limits, see the world, have little or no obligations, deadlines, committments. So v. sick of the cubefarm.

        • interesting quote… i would beg to differ, and say that true freedom is probably uncomfortable, in what case comfort is not freedom… but anyway… whose quote is that?

    • Good luck G/Virg!!!

      Sounds like some kind of nasty Saturn return shamozzle.
      You can do it! Hang in there! What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger etc, etc.

      March really isn’t that far away.

  4. definitely winging it at the moment, and much happier for it too. Spent too many years hanging about in jobs I hated or was completely bored by, but unable to bring myself to leave. Now happily taking only short term contracts, so there’s no chance to slip into a rut. And they have just been falling in my lap for the last 2 years, which has been great. The less effort the better as far as I am concerned…

    Of course, it’s not all sunshine and roses, there are still shit bosses to deal with, and people with miniscule IQs or no imagination, but all in all, it’s working for me. Not working so well for my friends, some of whom are freaking out at the thought of me not having a job at the moment. They are constantly on the look out for a job for me, even contacting others about possible opportunities, making enquiries on my behalf… I do work hard when I have a job, but if I had my way, I’d get paid for pottering around the house, doing a spot of gardening, perhaps a batch of scones?

  5. Have plan..it’s just remembering it sometimes
    & always quite surprised when it goes accordingly
    & realise ‘that’s the way i planned it’.
    The again, nothing’s set in stone but wise to have
    a 2 year plan at least. Five’s a bit loooong.
    I-Work therefore i am. Perhaps a bit of the Scottish
    & Sicilian work ethic in ma genes.
    Self-employed since age of 28. Always a challenge
    generating work-income, but love the hi’s & accept the lows.
    ‘You need to love your job so much that you would do half
    of it free’ Quote from ABC radio announcer.

  6. Virgo Sun, Mars square Saturn, Right place, right time with the right talent.
    Smart enough to hold on to a good job that I love. I am happy with what I am doing (non-profit arts), and on the Pluto scene (ASC) I am glad that I am going to be earning money for doing natal charts beginning in January in my free time.

    • Sounds great!

      I also have Virgo Sun, Mars quincunx Saturn.
      Pluto Scorpio Rising
      I finished my 5 year plan. Returned to finish my BFA in Fine Arts. Took a year off to relax on the beach and road tripped across America.
      My next 5 year Plan is continue my work in the Fine Arts and avoid corporate gigs.

  7. I’m (Virgo) using discipline and hard work (Saturn) in communications, technology and writing. I’m feeling energetic (Aries) and creative and trying to apply that to communications.

    Something’s happened (floodgates of work) and I can tell I will be crazy-busy for quite some time (a good deal of this for free, Pegasus). But it feels good. Just hope I can handle it! Nervous, but steaming ahead.

    I always, ALWAYS, have a plan. It’s just that I feel free to change it!

  8. Self-employed and doing what I love for the past 2 years. I’d say I’m proactive, patient and intuitively know when to strike. Scorpio sun (Cap moon & asc.) w/ Mars/Saturn opposition. Otherwise I’d echo much of what Pegasus has to say!

  9. Saturn and Mars in Gemini (also Saturn-Netpune opposition)

    My work style has been to do the shittest thing that the boss hates to do first and do it well and without fuss..without complaint..ever (well until they know you’re golden and then you can get down to the business of bargaining a wage rise and give them some lip too as you’ve earnt your rung on the ladder).

    Somehow i’ve blagged it in the past, starting off work experience in punk tshirt shop in Sydney city in 80′s, then decided wanted to go bush and did, then wanted to work in friends antique shop and did, comic shop, yep, print tshirts, yep, street poster printer,movie set something a rather – tick – sculptures assistant, rock n roll merchandise printer and worker at cool shows and festivals, tick, enough inside night time work so, study horticulture and work outside as gardener, tick.. i’ve never been big into chashing dollars though, but scrape by with enough to be a little generous to friends and eat ethically and pay bills and the odd new garment…since having little people and not back into work yet, have been thinking whats next..my absolute dream would be my own stall at Salamanca markets in Tassie, living there and working weekends on stall selling beautiful hand made modern quilts (um by me)…i know its soooo katakan .. but its my dream…it was that or cracking out the old pottery wheel and ceramics, but quilts are unbreakable and im worried about where we’re heading energy wise so to be firing up a kiln would not come easy without guilt…
    Was lucky enough to have the Phoenix reading from Mystic that clearly stated ýou need to work for yourself or autonomously” and making netptune and saturn work together to make your living through something artisic but that brings in the moolah..or words to that effect…I’m excited, and feel safe in this economic climate of uncertainty (meaning if piscean landscaper / stonemason husband out of work for a over 6 weeks – fingers crossed, been busy still, we get to sell up leave sydney and downsize) knowing back up dream is somewhat affordable..and that mr piscean loves tas, but i am apprehensive about leaving Sydney without as much help as we can get for our little boys with autism who are absolutely coming along in leaps and bounds in their affection/eye contact/engagement/speech and whatnot. that holds be back for now, the support in alternate theraphies,here in Sydney is unbeatable in Australia, but just a few/couple more years and we should be there…
    Oh just re-read Phoenix..excited about Mystic stating ‘Best Career/Creativity Stars are Yet to come”..I’m waiting for the red velvet cutains to open behind my eyes (or mind)…exciting times . .oh and i hope i havent come across as too much of a you know..toss pot ! and hopefully, in the not too distant future, you can pop by for a cuppa at the stall if you’re in town..will have to have some sort of sign for the magical bloggers of Mystics site!!
    must rest up .. xx

    • ohhh…I love your dream, you are on your way, you have described it so vividly ! I pictured someone smiling wrapped in a quilt in a dusky sunset market ~

      • Oh thank you Saturnrox, i hope to see you there sometime…funny “Collectors” had a special on Salamanca Markets today on the googlebox.

    • My 14 year old self would be stoked to be heading into an arty direction. Mystics phoenix said something like a powerful authoritarian figure clobbering me at early age so i doubt my creative talents..i remember mum coming home from a parent teacher night saying ónly 2 teachers think you’re going anywhere..your art teacher and your ancient history teacher, where the bloody hell do you think thats going to get you” .. i was in too much shock to answer the most obvious at the time “ummm maybe teaching them?” .. poor mother of mine..she stills feel awful about it all.. i left a year after that.

      • I think my young self would think I am groovy and want to hang out. Sorry about your Mom, that’s a hard one. I remember drawing breasts and getting yelled at as if they were to be ashamed of, or dirty. Well, that sooo backfired~ Good for you GF-RF for pursing *your* dream !

        • We’re good as gold now Saturnrox, she’s a ramzilla too, so there is the odd ramrod wrestle, but i must admire her on being able to step up to the mark when needed….at other times though, i thinks she’s sort of lost and scattered with me, but right now, best intentions and actions at heart, (she has taken boys out for the day so i can lounge around and indulge on Mystics blog and whatnot whilst recovering from op on tuesday)…cheerio .. im glad you would be happy to hang out with older you, that’s a true compliment !

          • I love hearing about the progress of your boys, GF. Had a big breakthrough with my girl yesterday, too. It’s so very heartening when the small steps happen and we realize what was is not always what’s gonna be.

            Enjoy your day! (Or rather, with the time change) I hope you enjoyed your day!

            • Thats great news WeatherGirl, any steps make you beam with sunshine, pride, and hope, it’s such a beautiful sign that everything is going to be alright isn’t it.

              I had one of the boys first therapists ring when mum and step dad took them out the other day, absolutely blown away that the boys were walking along eating icecream with grandparents peacefully without any dramas/screaming/tantrums/hissy fits .. we both got teary about it on the phone, its strange isn’t it, it takes someone with a special needs child to appreciate such big steps… I used to feel like i needed a valium milkshake to take them anywhere together, just to fend off the stares or onlookers.
              Life gets brighter a little each day ..
              happy weekend and thankyou again Weathergirl. x
              PS did you see our friend in NZ won at the WoW awards ?

    • Your dream sounds awesome goldfleece. I would love to buy one of your quilts when you get there. My mum absolutely loves Tassie so may just get back there one day. I can really see how quilt making could be relaxing/ therapeutic? when you know what you’re doing. I really see how timing is important with your boys who have autism- it can be very difficult to get support and services in certain locations. I guess the good thing is that we know so much more about Autism now and there is more choice in what sorts of strategies you can use. I imagine you have worked really hard with supporting your boys and it will be really nice to have something for yourself. I enjoyed reading your post :-)

      • Oh schucks thank you Wonder Women of Mystics Blog, this is such a magical oasis to visit. The handsewing at night is definately my therapy,you are right there Water Pig, i don’t indulge in the blue hoochie juice anymore – umm, probably more due to the over indulgence for quite a few years, so it’s like my couple of glasses of Sav Blanc each night to wind down. happy weekend x

  10. I had some sort of a 5-year plan. Then, you know, life – smth about, if you wanna make god laugh, make plans, or smth along those lines.
    Been rebuilding, have a broader picture type plan, though a bit hesitant at the same time.
    My 14-year old self would look at me now, and go, Whoah, would not mess with that woman EVER.

    My new trademark, which has been forged from experiences of late, is:
    “Forget lead into gold; I turn shit into platinum.”™

    Have wondered if I ought to get that seriously registered/trademarked for real.

    • Ha! No need to apologise, it was loverly and natural, like you were sitting here talking!
      Hope you managed to get a rest in.

  11. Taurus, so I have the work ethic. I don’t think it’s just my Sun/Merc that influence that though. My parents are immigrants and have worked hard to get our family where we are today, and that affects me the most. I feel too privileged knowing the way they used to live.

    Good things don’t just come to you by sitting around trying to be fabulous. Life doesn’t work that way (for 99.9% of the world, at least).

    As far as career plans, I have plans for one or two years ahead, but I don’t plan ahead that much. Life is too sudden and unexpected, and sometimes it’s nice to have things mapped out a bit for you by those spontaneities. (That’s the Pisces Mars talking…)

  12. Gem sun and saturn, squared by pluto:-
    Don’t do 5yr plans but do frequent reassessments of direction.

    Overactive in career reinvention with limited staying power but can wait forever for the right timing and pounce on cue on luck opportunities c/o Jupiter in the 10th.

    My born-again perfectionist 14yr old self would be appalled at my lack of ambition,(actually cool confidence)but would be stoked at my current careercchoice.

    Pluto in Cap gameplan:
    Rise along the path of reinvention
    Stay one step ahead
    R&R =fuel
    Negotiate, negotiate, negotiate!
    Pure intent
    Act as if less is more, now.

  13. hhmmm – I really get your gameplan points twinfishrising:

    Don’t do five year plans but always have to go with my absolute gut feeling about work – even when I know that somewhere isn’t going to work out but I have to do it to keep the mortgage in check.

    I really need to learn to say no and I have learnt that if I don’t say no then the work just makes me ill – like in hospital ill.

    My 14 yr old self would probably be quite impressed with where I am these days. I’ve always wanted to be published so I’m happy that its happened.

    I’ve developed more of a sense of where I want to go – career wise – in the last few months and my ‘shit job radar’ is much more sensitive these days to the point where I can’t even apply for a job if the sinking stomach feeling starts just imagining being in said job. Its a total waste of time, energy and effort on everyone’s behalf applying for situations I don’t really want to be in – no matter how much money is on hand.

    • BlueLib, totally relate to that “shit job radar” sensitivity. Last month in the midst of worrying about income insecurity I was thrown a grandiose scheme of making “name your price, honey” money for doing 28days of what first was presented as a travel opportunity but after sniffing it out I’d call it both entrapment and slavery. No money can replace your cellular memory.

    • Totes agree with you bluelib and twinfish with not having 5-year plans that are set in stone! Frequent reassessments more in tune with me, along with having plans but at the same time flexible enough to allow pop-ups, which do occur, as that’s life hey! :D

    • oh BL, the ‘shit job radar’ right on, i completely agree! i decided that if i got that ‘oh god not more of that crap’ then i moved down the jobs column!!

  14. makes me think of pink’s song “conversations with my 13 year old self”! loved it, but cried

    aries w aries rising scorp moon don’t have 5 year plan never have gem BFF always knows where she’s going have had many crap jobs but none as exotic as described in comments in prev posting! jealous last one (i walked out of 2 this year) they *made* me rewrite a 1.5 page memo 6 times the day b4 i walked was in same industry 10 years b4 at higher level so am disgusted! still working out what to do re income, but think might have to go into business for self scared tho’

  15. will have to read string above tonight – as too busy with reinvention to pause

    LIB Sun – Mercury 15Virgo in 6th / Saturn 29 Aqua in 12th – interpretations there from wise ones WELCOME!!

    yes have 5 year plan – that WILL BE WINGED!!
    habitually treading into territories that don’t have a precedent I find that retrospectively my route becomes the precedent if that makes sense.

    frustrated, like many, with archaic sectors / practices within media – am gonna do it myself. internet based / iPad app based / books (yes beautiful books) & the curve ball keeps coming with TV – that previously would have been scoffed at but should it come off then the plan makes sense & is then head down bum up with strategy to build future security in a mere 5 years.

    YEARS AGO (18-20 or something) I was working with a designer furniture emporium. trained in design & marketing & being skilled at shopping (& ahead of trends by instinct) told then owner he was doing it wrong & drew on an envelope who a showroom needed to be laid out. that became the prototype for contemporary design showrooms globally for the next 10-15 years. that idea I scribbled was bought by the biggest retailer in the country & they still drive it.

    said to Le Ram last night – I feel like I’m in that same space now. Not sure of the eventual outcome but compelled to act on the unfolding opportunities.

    beats sitting on my hands as I was last 2 years & NOT for want of trying to initiate things. how the worm turns!!

    gotta run – look forward to delving into stories above laters ;-) xox

  16. When I started my jewelry Business I Did not know any better it was Passion /Survival . I jumped unto it with $1000.00 no car rode the bus to pick up and deliver the repair work from local jewelry stores. 4 years later i had my own store.
    Early success nearly Killed me ( 13 years later) . Went on Sabbatical and emerged as an artist and have not looked back. in 8 years i Opened Now my current studio gallery is celebrating 11 years . I am opening a 2nd location which will be a full art jewelry/Sculpture.
    in march with a plan . It was an opportunity I could not pass. Pluto in Capricorn .
    I feel that my Vision of myself and my work is expanding. It was Tough, I remember not having electricity in my Apt. I opened the windows in the Summer heat 101 degrees and the mosquitos came in and were torturing me.
    Or eating the 50 cent taco at taco bell etc..
    Celebrating 38 years self employed. The secret: do what makes you happy or what makes Money. But do not go after money it will elude you.

  17. Have a vague idea of where I am going over five years. I think I have been planning for it all my life.

    I am Leo with Virgo Mars, Cancer Saturn. In general I tend to trust in my instincts rather than plan ahead.

    Have been phoenixing like crazy in the last three years. Studying hypnotherapy and counselling (“at LAST” screams my 14 year old self!), having two babies, renovating my values, growing confidence and developing my sensitivity.

    I spent my youth working and drinking Blue Devil Hoochie Juice on several beaches in various somewheres (sagg NN!). Now it is time for me to take all my life experience and make something useful and helpful out of it. Just gotta raise some kidlets first.. So my life is no different due to the GFC as I was in the ‘family way’ already.

    I think my 14 year old self would be sorry it took me so long to accept who I am and understand where I want to go, but pleased that I am getting there..

    My Pluto in Capricorn is transiting my seventh house… funny time to marry and start a family!!? Hub has Cappy NN though..
    Uranus and Jupiter all over my MC currently, confusing. As always, drawn to esoteric subjects.. My 5 year plan involves letting the Universe place me, when I am ready, in the right place. So, yeah, winging it! :)

    • Um, I thought the comment that I just posted would be in reply to your post here, but it wasn’t….d’oh!!! :lol:

    • When Pluto was on my NN in 1978 I got married. My first and only one.

      Can’t remember what my 14 yr old self was aspiring to way back but like you Andromeda, still feel in the process of ‘getting there’ in many ways.

      I think that’s good as means one has a dream even if it seems difficult. Older now, however, and I often feel the crush of time and I don’t like that feeling. Jupiter is in my 6th, natally, and I’ve been fortunate that things always work out. With Uranus coming up upon Aries perhaps I’m just feeling anxious about things that will come more naturally and that right now, like MM says, it’s a time of sort gestating until the full on.

      Then again, I can’t use that as an excuse to be lazy either! Saturn square my Aries stuff and so he’s always driving me, driving me…(Oh shut the fuq up sometimes.. :lol: )

      Good on you for all your aspiriations and willingness to grow. No matter where we are, I liken us all to flowers with our faces towards the Sun.

      • Well I hope you get your flow of natural on Sweetie you deserve your time in the Sun. I wish Saturn would go sit in another part of the solar system for a few years sometimes… Yes, we are all flowers, I love the Sun and that Spanish chick who thinks she owns it has got rocks in her head.

        Oh and interesting about the Pluto transit, I also married around the time it conjoined my NN in Sagg 7th house, amazing..

    • “Have a vague idea of where I am going over five years. I think I have been planning for it all my life”

      so true, I feel that. Maybe the gem asc neptuen 6th. like a magnet slowly being drawn in

      x

      • What a memory! If you have a sec can you explain to me about how the Gem Asc, Nept 6th would make this so?

        Thanks, I do feel the spiritual path is the only I understand, the feeling of vocation cannot be fought, only accepted. etc. etc. Have had to really wrestle with my 2nd House Leo Sun whose inclination is like this:

        “Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis”.

        • ah I remember ;)

          well it spoke to me not on spiritual per say but as an impossible to explain intuitive ability to gravitate towards work choices. I did relate to your exact quote. Ever since we all posted neptune 6th (there’s a few so feel free to join in) I was thinking of its meaning on a few levels. I have felt guided/ intuitive about the path, rather precisely my whole life but all the hard and fast is my own decision making. Gem Asc for the ability to incubate an idea whilst doing something else hence vague yet plan whole life feel. Like your auto pilot is on grand plan and the day to day over takes the brain but you still drift in right direction

          • :) Thank you for explaining that. Love the Neptunianally evocative idea of a life being on auto pilot towards the grand plan in a gradually drifting way… Neptune in the 6th, maybe we are working our Neptune, ‘every day in every way’ so that we hone our skills a little constantly.

            I always am aware now that genius only makes up half the story, all the Mozart’s and Tiger Woods’ out there had people prepared to push them as hard they could handle going with their God given talents..

            So, while we all have Neptunian abilities, it would be a good thing for any sensitive to have a natural work ethic regarding that.. Gem Asc I am still not sure how to think about in all honesty, or what it means…

        • Re the neptune in the 6th manifesting as spiritual work I’ve experienced it as some phases of working in occult or esoteric businesses – the new age mag was one of the worst jobs ever – work a 20 hour day for “spirit” get fuqd I am in a physical body and I feel my spirit gradually seeping away with every lame assed dime store philosophy you spout at me in order to exploit me as a resource you hippy was on my mind most often. The witches were always the best to work for – you knew where you stood and they’d back you all the way and were happy to agree to disagree as well. They had more awareness of elemental energies and balance maybe that’s what it was. The neptune has also manifested as a phase of studies towards homeopathic degree but I realised I’d have to listen to people complain for the rest of my life and I’m not up for that how tedious (gem asc) so I moved on from that pretty quickly and the other way has been in working with words (combining the gem asc) and images. Working for liars, high functioning neptunian and scurrilous types has also featured. Always interesting.

          An astrologer told me years ago that gem ascendant will usually have a 2nd job and it’s more likely to pay more by the hour than the main job. I have always found that to be true.

          • That’s interesting whatevs. Haven’t worked with any occult type businesses. It’s funny but I can handle a fair amount of tedium which I attribute to my Mars Virgo/Moon Scorpio as their relentless detail scavenging tendency is intense. My Gem Asc must be like a helicopter that lifts heavy machinery!! I hope that 2nd job thing is true, it would be really handy in the coming year.

            • Is your mars virgo in the 3rd? It astounds me the a lot of us have such similar charts and such different ways of expressing them – subtle nuances. Obviously there’s the generational similarities but the other similarities with the faster moving planets are really interesting. I have mars virgo in 3rd and I am a total research obsessed sleuth – moon in scorpio in the 6th same as yours. Is helping me succeed with the studies.

              You’re really good at writing – have you ever considered hooking yourself up with a blog and then using that as an entry point into one of the “new” jobs? After 6 months of successful blogging get work as an online content producer or blogger with a parenting magazine or whatever – check your MC 3rd or 5th house for the ideal subject matter? You’re smart and remarkably fair minded you’d be good as a site/forum moderator or similar too.

              I don’t know how you ladies with the kids make it work – for real – I’m constantly amazed by it. Good luck with the job hunt x

              • Oh hi, yes it is in the 3rd! You also? That is pretty weird, eh? I wonder if MM has noticed any regular features to her blogger folk in general. She must have done the charts of all the regular contributors!

                I too feel like a magnet is pulling me but I thought we all did?! The magnet of death/life, inexorable tug towards the DNA homing device of the stars!

                I don’t know about blogging, but thanks for the compliment re the writing. It’s just very time consuming and I don’t want to put the kids in child care, it would have to be something I can control the timing of better…

                MC in Pisces (9th), 3rd House Leo (Mars is in Virgo but 3rd house), 5th House Libra (just)- what does that mean? Do you have similar house placements yourself?

              • the magnetic life death thing’s a wee bit more profound than my approach to work! I meander. I just have faith it will all fall into place – psices MC. Saturn’s in my 10th tho and in aries – my only fire planet – so when I do get going I’m all business – do it once, do it properly. Lately with uranus and Jupiter on the MC I’ve experienced more drive and some things ARE actually about to fall into place – tomorrow will be telling for whatevs.

                Re the charts yup – we share the pisces MC, 3rd house leo + mars in virgo there – do you have pluto uranus and jupiter lurking in the 3rd or 4th? My sun’s in libra in the 4th.

                If libra just edges over the line of your 5th it means your 5th house is ruled by Libra and venus – that’s a fortunate placement : o) 5th is creativity and venus rules it so I think they call that a planet in dignity? If you go to strangehouse or cafe astrology armed with the knowledge of which house your venus is in and look up “the ruler of the 5th is in the …. house” it will tell you something interesting about your venus that you maybe haven’t read before – you can do it with all your planets see which house they rule and then look at the house they’re actually in – is fascinating and ancient so therefore sometimes obscure – things like “will have luck with animals of cloven hoof on long sea voyages” etc.

                MS – mars in your 2nd with north node – in virgo? Am I right in thinking that regulus is conjunct your mars as well? That would give you incredible drive to succeed and lead. Your mars if it’s in virgo is also I think pretty fortunate for your chosen field of studies – attention to detail and perfectionism ; o)

              • Hey sweet, yeah I just looked it up. its conjunct mars 1 degree near exact and conjunct NN as well. I am yet to know much about regulus but what I have is a bit daunting, rise to power short burst and fall? hmm
                I have drive alright and a very militant energy when engaged think with aries MC and sun 5th this should turn out alright? mars is square many things but I heard this starts to turn by 30 into something more about knowledge less head hitting.
                People always want me to direct them but I feel I have earned this now and I am a competent leader should the role fit. Def better leading than following unless like I said somewhere else the leader is better and I may learn under a master

              • yeah I think with your mars it means you have to work hard-out for whatever you earn – but your industry is phases of relentless work with gaps in between? so you’ve chosen a good place to express your martian vibe + your sun in the 5th = you were born to shine in creative realms but also there will be the breaks in “seasons” or runs to recoup energy I’m thinking – Aries MC – the ruler of the 10th is in the 2nd? http://astrofix.net/2010/05/18/ruler-of-the-10th-house-in-houses/ and this from strangehouse –

                “Ascension due to the native’s personal merit, and in connection with matters governed by the Ruler of the Second, and those governed by the Ruler of the Tenth.”

                You’ll make your living/$ and rise in the public eye from things related to the planet that rules the signs on the cusp or your tenth and 2nd houses. Regulus isn’t all bad – just POTENT. better to rise and fall than never to rise I figure. x

              • Thank you so much. One of my now till new year vows is to make better ground for future trends and understand work patterns so I can really start to plant roots. I am trying to take the saturn coming for pluto seriously. Yeah I do rise rule and then leave or kill what I create when its effect turns (fall?) but 2nd house does want long lasting career in something to provide. I never worry about love its always been there but this is something I must master. much love to you xxxx

              • hey hon this thread has been done to death but it just occurred to me whilst making tea and staring out the window at the sky that if your 2nd house is ruled by leo and you have sun in the 5th = that means your sun is in dignity or whatever they call it – MAAAATE ! google ruler of the 2nd in the 5th if you feel like it – I’ve got tea to tend but that’s a fuqing awesome placement that plus your mars & aries MC could be a crazy combo of drive and ability to succeed AND make some cash SPLENDID xxx

            • I’ve gotta say hypnotherapy sounds a lot more interesting than people banging on about their ailments day in day out! I live with an aqua – there’s only so much talking (or more accurately listening) I can take in one day ; o)

              • Love hypno it is so beautiful when done at highest level..also as a therapist you talk and listen in equal parts. It brings out the essentials from the client, intense yet so light it’s less painful and more healing as a method.

                Yes I have a fifth house Libra cusp – that’s nice! With a 6th house Scorpio moon, it’s good have a little dignity somewhere!! However there ain’t nothin’ in it. Bummer, would have loved a creative venture expressed more directly there…

                Thanks for the tip for looking there. I actually have been crazy about house placements in synastry lately, it made so much sense with my ex. I had major 7th/4th house action with him, while he was only stimulated by the 11th/3rd house re myself. BIG ‘oh’ moment. Kind of a relief.

                Ms. your leadership ability sounds beyond excellent. Good luck with your endeavours..x. Thanks whatevs, funny crew on the old astro boat we have here, interesting!

          • interesting 2nd job theory. I can see why, if I have to split the love and money thing. Not sure I could sustain a stage career for uranus so I will clearly need to design something

      • “like a magnet slowly being drawn in”

        Thats exactly how I feel DRAWN – gem ascendant Neptune in the 6th in scorpio – I mean I was looking at all these thinking god how organised are these people? They actually have plans – I have never had a plan just a constantly evolving MO that requires me not to ever return to things work wise that didn’t work – is strange tho during saturn libra retro this year (saturn is in my 10th in aries) I suddenly returned to something I’d walked away from in 2007 and all my reasons were reinforced but the weird thing was I was able to see the things I DO like about that work so I can integrate them into my future – I’m glad I kicked it into reverse before moving forward again, it’s the first time in my “career” I’ve done that. I did do it on the advice of an astrologer tho. They said something new would come from it and they were absolutely right. The mad money was good too.

        But now I’m left with the magnetic feeling you speak of – I was just reading how the japanese used to dye fabric – they would soak it in their soy solutions sometimes for up to a year praying with it etc. before doing the colour part of the process – the soy taken up by the fabric changes the acid vs alkaline charge in the fibre and then when dye is introduced the acid or alkaline photon in that adheres to the charged fabric and voila! you have colour. I feel like I’m coming to the end of the soy phase and the colour draws near.

        • interesting. yes its hard to justify/explain anything of my day to day it just is, it comes off as vague but really I know exactly what I’m doing, its just not anything that will come off correctly on paper.

          I feel actively directed its very guided by voices and pictures. things just scream at me some days and I know I am meant to go and do this or that, I am more freaked when its quite cause I think am I not listening or are they on holiday? Interesting analogy and BTW I am becoming obsessed with japanese dye techniques (half shibori’d all my silks) and japanese designers in general. Think japan may be next stop…

          • What a strange thing to have in common. Japan is high on my list but studying gets in the way of sojourns for at least another year unless something awesome happens and I’m open to that – I had an obsessive shibori phase when I studied dyeing – this is so not astro but it’s an old thread and they do get zen buddhists to pray on the fabric so maybe it’s ok…? Right now am about to go get soya milk so I can dye some stuff in the traditional way and using plants from my garden that the neighbour is really pissed about because they’ve gone feral but I was growing them for dye so you know… whatevs deal with it – maybe if he has a problem with the garden he could do something to help in its upkeep? : o)

            I digress – did you do the pole wrap or clamping? I’d love to grow some indigo but it’s notoriously difficult – am willing to give it a try tho. Would love to do it all by phases of moon. Make it totally reverent and magic. I’m gagging to get my hands on some old metal and do some rust dyeing too – I mean some of these surface treatments aren’t so good for clothing – I struggle with the hippy tie dye associations – but they’re great for large scale installation or maybe props?

            Do you know there’s a 4 day shibori workshop in the grampians early next year? http://www.grampianstexture.com.au would be so much better to do it over some days weekend workshops are not enough. Also here is good for supplies – they’re awesome and do student discount etc. http://www.beautifulsilks.com

            • okay, your love of Japanese fabrics to the extent of making them yourselves is where we have parted ways!! :P Lol (sounds divine though!)

            • I have plush silks arriving tomorrow via supercrab who is posing as my new textile merchant from holiday in India. I think its a sorry present. he wants to work it out.

              I did pole wrap as I like the effect but clamping is nice too. Soya milk I do not know about yet but I have some great colour bleeds in silk jersey I have been playing with as well. have great idea for new dress

              thankyou for web deets! need to get some money rolling in first and then I can start the ball on upskills for techniques.
              I am also in love with the way designers re Japan cut away from the body and cocoon. Totally falling in love :)

  18. Hey, I had this stream-of-consciousness event this morning and it was all about Capricorn under a new and more whole consciousness, cos tha is da future already.
    It went like this and it’d be great to see if this rings any bells.

    Capricorn in a ONE world could be about trailblazing, foresight and determination to ge to the top of NEW ground, to new heights and inevitably bearing the responsibility of gathering followers on the path.

    In the OLD way, there’s establihed hierarchical authorities and capricorn was about climbing via etablished routes and gaining authority wih every foothold to get to the top and to claim the pinacle. Now, without those established paths, where we are all leaders within ourselves, divinely inspired to ingegrate as a whole authority, capricorn is about going forward with the wisdom of extensive past fully attained and focussing not on the attainment of position above others but on developing ultimate respons-ability to lead in a totally chaotic and changing environment.

    To be able to lead those little lights wihin others demands of capricorn that their own paths are greatly lit by all manner of strength from within and without, so reputation is still important, but perhaps more visibility and public recogntion than is previously attracted to them along the way. They may have to integrate feedback more readily than in the past.

    The image that comes to mind is like a humble priest without robes. Magician of sorts?
    Not a detached monk on a personal spirit quest. Not a pope looking to perpetuate practising dogma. Not a christlike “fool”(as in the tarot) who channels through the heart of a child. Not a seeker but something like it with a constructive bent. Perhaps the best decription is a Seer who does what they see. And thus creates a new responsibility and directs a new power via practising a more eternal/unifying vision than a paved path of ‘man’s power.

    So, perhaps they are becoming more confident/competent directors in humanistic ways.
    Since the OLD world, of material and immaterial ivory towers, is crumbling perhaps in this age of constant change and chaos perhaps capricon provides their own example of mastering living simply so that all may simply live. Ie it is not about accumulation but about extension.

    Like, past and present/future capricorn both have a firm grip on the world and on it’s power, but since the power has changed to a spiritual basis of fluxing oneness this is the reality on which they have a firm grip. Not the collapsing rigid systems where rules dictate that some hold power over many.

    So a major exploration of tools such as language synergies and positive communication,
    design that is in harmony with actual necessity and in harmony with all beings, these may better define the new tools of management

    • I realise that was so long and also, it was not really logically constructed, just how I got it, and it actually feels weird putting it out there but hey, what’s the worst thing could happen? I look like a fruit. She’s apples.

    • I hope you don’t mind, but I copied and pasted this incredible vision. I love it! You’ve certainly captured the image of Cappy’s highest order “practical mystic”.

      You’ve got nothing to apologize for, nothing. Thank you.

  19. Andromeda, this “I think my 14 year old self would be sorry it took me so long to accept who I am and understand where I want to go, but pleased that I am getting there..”, is absolutely beautiful……. I’m all verklempt and sniffy from the truth of that sentence. Thank you for putting it so clearly!

    • Aww UP Virgo, that’s so sweet, shucks, I can’t believe you got verklempt, I think I have Venus in Verklempt as I frequently tearful!

  20. I think my 14 year old self would be thinking ‘man, that is such a cool job. You even have keys to the place…’ 8O

    My 14 year old self would also be the ONLY one thinking like this, thank god I am cool in my eyes! :D

  21. Um I just wing it and leave it to fate. I’m aquarius and unaware of my Mars/Saturn situation.

    I know that MM thinks it’s naff, but I’m also not that in to career planning or financial planning or relationship planning at the moment.. I’m waiting for the 2012 ‘end of an era’ time to pass.

    In other words – why study more? Why top up super? Why bother with frequent shopper points cards? I’m 35 and can hit pause for a little while and unpause in 2013.

    • So know that feeling… It’s a definite place.
      About the pause button, I agree with you intellectually but for some reason I also feel like relating the time I nearly drowned when I was diving because I couldn’t cope with being seasick and vomiting underwater and I lost all my energy, so I let go.. just for a moment, I thought, I will let go..

      When I told my friends later I had thought, my friend (who was an English Kataka Spy/ex-assassin) said, “You never, ever, EVER give up!!”.

      (Of course I found this ironic coming from his as he in life he had really given up in life as he was an alcoholic who had nightmares about all the awful things he had done..).

      There is no 2013, my Gem would say, there is only Now. :)

  22. I have know what i wanted to do since I was 13.

    I am currently up to my eyeballs in applications that will realise this dream more completely than I have previously.

    I would love to discuss this more… but I have a world to conquer.

  23. scorp sun square mars virgo (mars sq everything?)
    saturn virgo square asc gemini

    always want a plan. love a plan try for them and then have to throw them out the window as obstacles appear that demand over the plan, so now I have small flexible ones so I can cope with them not happening if the need to be binned. I had grand plans (jupiter 3rd house) but lack of schooling and or confidence led me in a different direction. I have lived. can’t complain. I am hoping for a whole new era of work and self for my 30s. All the annoying headslamming and self orientated manner is turning into something cool and I can feel it growing just can’t feel my direction atm. after school I can get myself back and hopefully start to reconnect so I can bloom again. making 2011 my year of bloom. really hope jupiter on mc next year brings me something good. I fear my own retardation however not being able to see what I am best at. had about 7 job titles in my time. no idea still what I am best at. though everyone says managing people. I loath this answer. I only am cause I am surrounded by idiots doesn’t mean I am amazing. I would die of boredom organising others.

    btw my HIT pick for success before i left Uk was girl from glasgow whom I have been in contact with since, she has just handed her lookbook to kate moss this week. so proud. love watching people phoenix.

  24. all I ever wanted to do was to be an artist and fashion designer.
    I made my first look books in crayon and texta as calender girls complete with astrological profiles lol
    I taught myself to sew by taking my mothers patterns and re sizing them and I would have loved nothing more than to be in world of old couture and illustration.

    • That sounds awesome, I have a non-sewing fashion designer living inside me I saw appreciate the love of this, good luck -I love that your calendar girls had astro profiles!!

    • Hey toots you can so make this happen – you know that deep down inside – it’s just the wading through the fuqwits part that slows a girl down but when did you ever let that stop you? You’re way closer today than you were a year ago and a year further away from what you wanted to leave behind so I figure ONWARDS AND UPWARDS The ones you want by your side will gradually emerge. Sometimes it takes waaaay too long for my liking too but they do eventually arrive – the equals or betters as opposed to the cannon fodder.

      • aw thanks guys. I am at peace today despite all. I am crystalising and when that happens things will fall where they should. I know I am almost near the alchemy needed to make it go just have to make the ground for it and that means ALL things, like health and home. all the shit I usually ignore ;)

  25. Taurus sun conjunct mars & MC & Pt Fortune in 9th house, conjunct mercury & chiron in taurus (10th). Only aspects to saturn in scorpio (3rd) are trine between venus (11th) & moon (7th).

    I’ve always really wanted a 5 year plan but haven’t developed one yet. When I started uni I would’ve laughed to the point of crying if someone had told me I would be at uni for 8+ years. It’s not something i’m proud of and I cried through most of it. A lot of it had to do with not having the courage to change courses when I knew I was vaguely unhappy. Turns out it was a big deal after all and it would’ve been a good idea to listen to my instincts. I only worked out in 3rd year that I wasn’t that happy with where I was going but I felt like I was so close to finishing (one more year to go) and that I had sacrificed so much by that point that I couldn’t let it go. I really thought that I couldn’t walk away and start again.

    I don’t want to bore everyone but 14 yr old me would be disappointed. I started my very first job at that age and always thought then that I would be fine work-wise but it hasn’t actually gone so well. I wish I had some Aries courage to be a more proactive. I hate the idea of waiting for opportunities to come to me (they haven’t) but i’m not that courageous.

    Changes since GFC. One of the reasons I continued in my course was that I knew one day I could work for myself- after I get some more practical experience and even more training. I guess since GFC I definitely spend money differently and I also have more of a desire to work for myself.

    • I believe you have the courage to be who you need to be Water Pig. As a Water Pig you will also naturally attract support, who doesn’t a love a sweet Piglet?

  26. This post and the previous one are full of gems and insights. I need time to digest, as am working against a deadline atm. Thank you for sharing experiences – good or bad. :-)

    Gem Merc, NN in Aqua, Merc retro in 10th house: found my niche into thinking if am giving away what I know and only hope to change someone else’s life a little bit am OK.

    • My 14 yr self would be amazed with me now – I was an old soul then, very much under control of parental expectations.

      Since 2006 (Pluto oppose natal Sun and square natal Pluto) and 2008 (Saturn square Sun) I have changed a lot, still changing and loving it. I dropped any notion of stability, became a light traveler – home is wherever my cat sleeps.

  27. The 14yo me has finally had her dream come to fruition, no snorting or derisive remarks, I’ve just purchased my own heavy vehicle yuh a truck. Next year I start a new phase in the blokey career path I’ve been happily wandering the last 4 years. I’ve done a lot. Federal & state governments admin& welfare, hospitality, customer service to the point I hated people. I see freedom on the horizon in a strange way :)

    • I love it when people find their true calling and sometimes it’s not at all what we thought it would be. I really hope your new journey brings you that freedom and happiness. I’ve found it really inspirational to read everyone’s comments. Thanks for sharing!

  28. i’m too lazy to read everyone’s comments atm.
    So here’s mine anyway.

    I plan. I scheme, strategise, dream, imagine, write lists, big picture dreams, daydream, envision, creatively visualise, guided meditate, research, talk to people, read articles, do a course or 3, read a book about it or 10, play around…

    then procrastinate for a couple of months / years.

    But in the meantime it’s all cooking. Then I seem to get to a point where it’s like, “OK you spineless lazy bozo, move it or lose it, now or never, get a move on!” then push things a bit further along and it seems to work.

    Not as though I’ve had 5 careers or anything but that’s how it seems to work atm.

    “Feel the fear and do it anyway” has one of my fave motivational quotes atm, s’thing like: A jumbo jet in flight is always correcting its course. The pilots notice it is a little off track, correct it, then some time later do the same in the opposite direction. That means, while the jet is heading in the general direction of its destination, it is only exactly on the path/track about 10% of the time! I love that .

    So by the same token I don’t then say, “OK on June 15 2010 I will be X” Because I like to let go of the process a little .. I suppose you could say I am faithfully proactive? when I am not drunk and morose at least?

    The Blue Devil and the rad work ethic sort of intertwine in my world. I figure they feed off each other.

    14 YO would look at me and might think, wow, she was at a crappy desk job for HOW long? what TF happened? what were you thinking? so, hopefully with a few changes I enacted she’d be satisfied… much happier!

    As for the GFC, it’s the indirect reason I lost my (desk) job a few months ago. All good. So, yeah, dammit, i have a new strategy alright! Pluto in cap gameplan is to not be afraid to Go Deeper in my human interactions, where it feels ok, and to watch out for freako power issues in my circles.

    the end.

    • Hi UP,

      I really love the motivational quote about the jumbo jet- I won’t forget that one. I guess it’s about being adaptable and flexible and having a back-up plan if possible and knowing what you need to do to get back on track (or at least in the vicinity of on track). I wish I had a bit more structure but i’ve never been one to see the future clearly for myself- yet I have very vivid dreams… I think I would like to do more of the lists, dream boards, strategies for long term and short term and definitely more talking to people. I have found myself to be quite isolated and it can be tricky to know how to best research and talk to the right people. I also know that as a multiple conjunct taurus (pt fortune, mars, merc, sun, MC, chiron- all conjunct in 9th and 10th) that it’s a challenge for me to act on someone elses advice even if I want to. I was born in mercury retro in taurus, too so I think about things for way to long- even though when i’m done I come up with good ideas- just not functional/realistic timing in the real world.

      Thanks for sharing UP!

      • hey water pig, glad you like the jumbo jet comment – it’s a good way to know not to beat up on yourself if you get a bit off track, you just edge back in the right direction and she’ll be right!

        How are you isolated – socially, physically, culturally, financially?
        Maybe nailing that down will help you to find the right ways to bridge the gap..? The world is getting smaller but there are still definitely some places that are a little far from everywhere else.

        I can really relate to the slowness too , but for different reasons. Trying to change that now.

        When I say research / talk to people, I guess what I mean is that I google the hell out of something, visit the library, devour any news/mag articles I see about it..not so much like uni research (yet). Also lately I find I meet people who do what I love, so I just pester them with questions.

        I read somewhere that it’s ok to ASK – have you met someone you admire? cool! if you can, tell them – “hey, i am so interested in what you do and i’d love to learn more about it – could i buy you a coffee this week so we can chat about it for half an hour perhaps? I think it would be great to hear what you have to say” that sort of thing. or just hav a conversation while they are in their office / market stall etc , grab their biz card, ask if it’s ok if you stay in contact etc…
        it is a bit flattery ish, but who doesn’t like to hear nice things about themselves? plus, it’s the truth :)

        Even email, phone, if face to face is not possible. I”m no expert – whatever you feel comfortable with that works :)

        [i am going on a bit sorry] it’s interesting what you say about being so toro-dominated. Maybe you can use that to your advantage – how does moving slowly *benefit* you? ..building empires, unbreakable buildings, reputations, networks…you see..:)
        if you are down on yourself for going slow, why? can you enlist help? ie someone who understands you properly, and can help you manifest your (great-sounding) ideas sooner? if you want that?

        so many questions, sorry, i just love to see people learning and growing :)

        • Thank you for your thoughtful reply UP I really appreciate it. You know the first important thing you said was to work out the specifics of the situation- that always helps doesn’t it because it’s makes it a little bit easier to move forward.

          Those are all great questions and certainly things I have thought about a lot. I do try and talk with other people and peers but trust is an issue in a small profession you might say (long story). It may take some time before I find someone who I admire/ has been successful at what I want to do. Sometimes I can get caught up in thinking something is perhaps more limiting than it actually is, too. On the other hand I do wonder if so many closed doors mean that this is not the right path.

          One of the great things about astrology is finding your strengths and utilising them to the best of your ability. I’m not so sure i’ve chosen a career that works with my strengths but rather challenges my weaknesses- might be a chiron conjunct mercury conjunct sun, MC, Mars karmic lesson?

          Oh well, nevermind the why/reason… those ideas are really helpful. Thanks again :-)

          • Oh and I don’t know if any other taureans find this but tenacity (or is that leo rising?) and an ability to stick with things and see them through to completion might be helpful and admirable but sometimes it’s hard to know when it’s time to move on. I read somewhere that taurus often keeps going long after others have moved on but it can also mean that you miss other opportunities or you miss/ misinterpret the omens by not moving on when you really should…

            • hey wp, i think you’re right abut taureans keeping on keeping on. I guess you stop when it’s not fun or doesnt feel worth it any more? Maybe gather insight on those moments/ life/biz timing by talking to trusted confidants, or just general conversations… (well, my chart is ruled by mercury, i pretty much figure everything out via talking..or reading!)

              I don’t know how you’d get around finding people you feel you can trust. Perhaps you can get an online business mentor, or some coaching, where it’s a professional relationship instead. Must be an interesting line of work you’re in :) Reminds me I was thinking of getting some life coaching or something…if I can afford it :S

              you sure have a lot on your MC – sounds like it’s always going to be an active area for you. Sometimes the other impetus for slog or fricken hard times might come from saturn or pluto as you’d prob know…what’s the long range view there?

              x

  29. Gemini Sun Mars in 5th house pisces square saturn in gemini 8th house… mars square saturn… not very charming… in fact as astrodienst puts it

    “With this aspect, life seems hard and unloving to you. And the danger is that you will gradually become hard and unloving toward others. If your family, especially your father, does not give you enough emotional support, you will eventually come to believe that no one else deserves a better break than you got.

    Often when you have a burst of energy that makes you want to go forward, something seems to hold you back. That is very frustrating, but what it really means is that you have to be very thoroughly prepared in anything you do.

    Anger and irritation are often a problem with this aspect. Be careful that you do not let your anger build up so far that it takes over. ” astrodienst

    fortunately ms gem reminded me to look at the trines for some positive insights…. But anyway, this does mean that I have felt pretty sorry for myself at times, worked hard since I was 14 in menial jobs, had a few breaks, but yes as above something often holds me back just when im moving forward. Another way I look at is that I always have back up plans if the current thing falls through, have prioritised the art of being and loving kindness and compassion to deal with anger and resentment issues, they still pop they’re ugly heads up, but I just have to remember the love pill. I always have 2, 5, 10 and 20 year plans, and understand its the journey not the destination that matters. Though it is fabulous to manifest some of these dreams. I think it all changed after saturn return a little less than 10 years ago, when i got my serious pants on, and decided nothing was going to get in my way of me achieving my career goals, even if I didnt believe in them some of the time. I think my mars in pisces kinda kills the ambitious spirit, but when I align that ambition with service to others and a ‘spiritual’ for want of a better word purpose, it all flows well (and apparently thats what mars in pisces is on about (I used to wish i was mother theresa at some point in my childhood).

    I think the positive is that I can be fluid with my goals, and not disappoint myself too much, Im adaptable and change, maybe with the help of Gemini sun the master of none but skilled in many areas, ive always got something up my sleeve.

    I grew up with a strong work ethic, and a marxist discourse around the dinner table,so i feel very passionate about work and workers rights. Ideally I am working towards the goal of loving my work, or my work being what I love, that way it will never be work, but just what I do. Im an ox in chinese astrology and it shows, i work hard, have endurance, am loyal and enjoy being part of a good team. I have to watch myself that i dont just stay loyal for the wrong reasons, and want to make sure I know when to find better employers.

    I am finishing my degree tomorrow, its taken 7 years, and will be starting new career asap. My plan is to fast track at this stage of my life, and continue upskilling. Thats my pluto in cap plan, plus north node transiting my natal north node, all systems are go! Cant believe mystic has said i need to wait till january though to sign any contracts… but i will let myself have this holiday.

    My 14 year old would be so bored with what i am talking about, and wondering when we are going to get drunk and pash some boys.

    • WOW! good on you for getting it done – is not easy – especially if you’re a mum I certainly wouldn’t be able to study if I had to take care of anyone it’s hard enough remembering to eat myself. Good luck with the next phase x

    • A big congratulations for your degree – the best degree is the done degree and now the world is yours, enjoy time off before the conquest :-)

      • Loaned my daughter Robert Hand’s Planets in Transit. Believe the daily write ups @ astro.com are from that book. She said “oh my gosh, he’s so negative!”.

        I didn’t see him that way but then again, Saturn colors some of my energies quite strongly.

        • The short report forecast on astro.com and the scopes used to just make me want to give up. These days I use it to find out the major transits then look up definitions elsewhere! Not that Hand isn’t a good astrologer or Liz (her psychological horoscope is unreal) but it’s nice to err slightly on the posi even when things are crappy. Precisely why I love MM so much!

          • astro.com is saturnine for sure – good to take your knowledge from a few sources and make it work for you – not too heavy, not too light = the fine line.

          • By the way Charley girl, I’ve looked at your site and you are very lovely/pretty. Don’t let the Leo’s or any others give you the shits.

            I call you Charley girl because there was a song once about “Charlie (or Charley Girl)….Can’t find what I’m thinking of anywhere…

            “Hey there, Charlie girl”….la de dah de doo…

            Anyone?

            • georgie girl? but there was that perfume called charley so maybe they stole the song and changed the words? Is that the song you mean – i think it might be the seekers sweets, not sure.

              • Do remember the perfume tho…Whenever I wore it I got compliments. Guess it worked with my chemistry even tho it was certainly not considered “high end” frag.-

              • 1968. Mind you I was 9 years old.

                Was she a hint of preggers and a no-no back then on the tube as seems boquet would be quite cumbersome to sing with if not needing to.

              • Other fave’s from back then were Lulu’s “To Sir with Love” and Petula Clark’s “Downtown”.

                Realize this has nothing to do with employment…. :)

              • And here I find “To Sir with Love” is associated with Glee.

                I’ve never watched Glee. Have no idea with they’re talking about or even what it is about. I really don’t watch much t.v. Lived the real thing/era thank you very much. ;)

    • yes sure.. as it goes it depends on where we are at in our evolution as to how to interpret the chart… but in saying that it is also empowering to see where my challenges lie… all of that above is also very true… and has had me having to learn ways to deal with that energy, and so the challenge can be the opportunity, Yes? My father was emotionally blah and it has taken years to work with that, i probably still am, but actually I am not cynical, and I would only want to support people to not go through what i did and to find freedom and safety and LOVE with all beings. So its interesting isnt it…

      Thanks for all the congrats re finishing uni! I appreciate it… One of my astrologer friends recognised my academic ability in my chart, via a grand trine, and has supported me endlessly throughout the last 7 years, she is a like my spirit mother, and whenever I would complain of loneliness, despair, sacrifice etc… she would promptly remind me of my greatness and to just focus on uni… It takes many people to make goals be achieved I see, and while I was determined, I couldnt have done it without some amazing support around me.

      I am now soooo relaxed for the first time this year, my sister said even my hair looks happy (it had been doing coarse stressed greasy look no matter how much i washed and conditioned). I went to my 7yr old nephews ballet performance last night and it was so magical and beautiful. I havent been to the ballet for over 30years, apparently my mum took me when i was a babe. It was so posh and bourgeoise, but i let myself enjoy the fantasy and femininity.

      Im ready to do everything now!

      • What a great friend to have PG. I can’t wait to hear what happens next for you – exciting threshold – you ended just before the new moon with uranus going direct – PERFECT.

  30. Sun in Leo in 9th (ruler of 10th)
    Sagg Ascendant
    Mars in Aquarius (ruler of 6th) conj IC
    Saturn in Gemini in 6th (ruler of 2nd) opp Neptune in Sagg in 12th

    I’ve never been much of a career planner. I’ve always just jumped on good opportunities as they’ve arisen and never worried too much about where they might take me. I’ve mostly worked in the not for profit sector and have never been overly bothered about making or saving money. I worked part-time for 4 years and loved the freedom that gave me to do ‘stuff’ ie. potter about, read, surf the web, analyse charts etc.. The thought of making a 5 year plan made me want to run for the hills!!

    BUT.. that’s all changed in the last year or so.. Pluto in Cap has moved into my 2nd house and suddenly I’m like “OMG, I’m 39, I’m single, I live in one of the world’s most expensive cities and I have no financial security whatsoever”!! Actually, I think this realisation started hitting around the time of my Pluto square at 36 but it was only when Pluto went into my 2nd that I decided I needed to get serious. So I took a full-time job (still in the not for profit sector) and started squirrelling away money each pay with the aim of getting a half decent financial buffer together by June next year, just in case I get sacked.. or my car suddenly dies.. or something drastic happens!

    After just over a year of doing this though, I’ve also realised that I absolutely cannot work full-time for an organisation for the next 25 years of my life, slaving away to watch my pennies slowly build up in the bank! I’ve always been very independent and have never been very comfortable having to toe the party line so to speak. So the alarm bell that’s been ringing away there in the background for quite a few years is becoming quite deafening now and I know without a doubt that I have to work for myself. The challenge is working out how I can still save money and set myself up financially while somehow finding the time to start getting my own show on the road. I feel sure that I’ll do it though – as they say, it won’t happen overnight but it will happen. Here’s to the future!

      • Thanks Sweetpea, good luck to you too! It’s quite scary making the transition to being fully self-sufficient in a financial/career sense but it’ll be so worthwhile in the end I’m sure and so much more fulfilling.. x

  31. Scorpio Sun, Mars in Sag sextile Saturn in Libra, Pluto currently sitting exactly on my MC.

    My 14 year old self would weep with despair if she saw all the bad choices I’d made, opportunities lost and yes I still WANT to be doing what I wanted at that age. Just not quite made it there yet. My issue has been a case of avoiding what I really want to do because when I love something/want something I immediately run away from it *YAWN*. Then trying and trying to find something else I can put my heart into but it never working because of the former. Feeling horribly frustrated because I’m actually a hard worker who really gets off on the satisfaction of doing a good job and would like nothing more than some kind of glittering career (NN Leo) but it constantly eluding me. Bad juju man, this is crunch point though, post Saturn return, Uranus direct, Pluto bothering me, I can feel it changing just got to be brave.

  32. I’m Libra Sun conjunct Mars in the 10th house.

    I have plans but it’s also not written in stone. When I see an opportunity that is not within the plan, I jump. So 1/2 planned; 1/2 winged.

  33. I’m a Scorp Sun trine Mars :)
    I do have a five year career plan! I’m going to university to study Classics (Latin and Ancient Greek), then I’m going to train as a teacher. I love youngsters (I work part-time as a nanny) and I woul love to pass on a love of my subject to them. I also want to use the long holidays to travel and write.
    My 14 year old self would be pretty disappointed with this plan, I used to want to be a forensic psychologist creating profiles of serial killers- how Scorpionic is that? :P My 8 year old self would actually be pleased though, as teaching is what I wanted to do when I was little.

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