April 7 and Pluto goes Retrograde whilst on April 8 Saturn slips into something a little bit less comfortable – that’s right: Virgo. Hair shirt and all. Saturn in Libra may be weird but it’s exalted. It’s like a Gothic dance that they do.
But forget Saturn for a sek.
The reason I mention Pluto now is that the planet-of-transformation is already in slo-mo, getting set to Retro back to 2 degrees of Capricorn…
Whenever Pluto stations Retro or Direct, it zaps out Plutonic rays of psycho-weirding and it is as if circumstances conspire to make you do a bit of psych work you would otherwise have happily left undone. That’s right. Not done at all. Why even bother? But when Pluto stations Retro, you look back to where you SHOULD look back.
Poignant reminders that we are in a new era now evoking quite intense & exquisite nostalgia for the old one. It’s Pluto, so there is always some major psych insight to be had from it…but still.
Think – if you dare – in terms of Pluto Eras: 1995 until early 2008, 1984 to the mid-90s…I could go on but need to go take some Pluto Juice.
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…myst, when was pluto last at 2 degrees cap? early 2008?
argh, i have done this period of growth to DEATH. i for one have been wanting the new era, pronto…sigh, more looking backwards psych work.
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Me too. How depressing. Stationing on my north node, not sure what that means.
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Nostalgia? Tick. Keep listening to mid 90′s indie low-fi – like Matthew Sweet.
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also check on the nostalgia – went to see Massive Attack last night, ran into my past and relived the 90s in a haze of light and sound and heaving bodies
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fantastic.
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I just watched a fav retro movie, “Night of the Comet.” Definately a freeze-frame momement in time.
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Geez if I look anymore inside, I am going to turn inside out.
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Ditto that.
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me too … but every time I think I have got myself sorted out I have another major blow-up … need to keep Pluto Juice on hand clearly, although a pocket full of vodka worked wonders yesterday.
Sigh.
Do I have to leave everything behind and sojourn at a convent, or spend a year in a hut in Mongolia before I get this all sorted out?
So Pluto has affected my whole life from adolescence onwards … ’84 to mid ’90s and then ’95 to 2008, well that’s basically 25 years of Pluto.(hey, good film title huh? “25 Years of Pluto” starring Kate Winslet as the lead and Sandra Bullock playing against type as the woman she ends up with … and a tattooed woman as their evil nemesis who turns out to be a wise woman …)
Anyway.
I am so over this period of evolving, wish I would just evolve into whatever it is and be done with it.
On a lighter note, I have a second date tonight with a delightful Younger Man of exotic origins. Very gallant, chivalrous, educated, perceptive, sweet and rather sexy. Am trying to stop myself from dragging him back to my lair too soon as this was possibly the problem in previous liaisons. Sigh.
Need to figure out what sign he is .. am betting on Taurus (sensual, determined, likes food, fairly conservative) but will see what I can find out tonight
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Hehehe….have FUN with the young exotic one!
Btw, itawy re: the evolving thing…sighing too….. I’d just like a breather, you know? At least a break.
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Hey I was right: Taurus and 10 years younger than me. Heh. He’s a sweetie (so far).
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ha!
c. 1994-5: numerous attempts by my besty and I to watch My Own Private Idaho – sweet young things, we kept on falling asleep a quarter the way in, and I’d wake up way earlier than she and pass the time dreaming about Keanu.
Last night: me and my man finally watched it all the way through (love it!, even wooden Keanu), getting all nostalgic for Portland and Seattle where our love began.
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ah so this is why high school friends keep popping up in dreams. 94-95
last night I dreampt I was pregnant, trying to get married and then give birth, worrying about money and all surrounded by a swirl of friends from high school and their parents houses (gothic palaces). very very weird.
pluto….
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watched alice in wonderland, dug out the book from the depths of my bookshelf…and remembered a little magic i believed in way back then.
i had lost my muchness…maybe pluto can bring it back
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I saw that too, loved it … I have lost my muchness too … need to fid it.
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FIND it …
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mystic I am only just getting over saturn virgo returns!!! I am hoping the re visit is more a reminder and pointers chart less of a faceslap. funny I really thought my saturn returns would be cruisey as I felt like I had been having one my entire life. thought I was prepped. how naive eh?
and pluto retro. pluto juice indeed. thats a long time
transiting saturn is heading for my pluto. this makes me nervous. world fall over is not an option.I can feel this nostalgia stuff though. looking back I feel like the queen of discs in the toth deck now. looking at all the millions of miles travelled. how things connect. really feel like a new era of self
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Yes, when was 2 Degrees Cap for Pluto? Was it 2009? When in 2009? Did I even get that in the ballpark? Teehee…. Days, months, years seem to have blended for me.
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Oh yep – feeling like I am going over familiar ground again (and have a repeat of my Saturn return in Virgo) – but this time (I hope) I am at least a little older and wiser and can see things that I couldn’t before.
Oh well. No way out but through.
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It’s an edit. A final draft. Starting to actually get big glimpses of the ‘finished’ product. So much change soon. The evolving’s getting more lucid. I can see more what’s at stake, now. And as for the angsty nostalgia, had a healing-family time yesterday, very special. Bless the open-hearted souls of this world. They let you know it was all worth it. So, moving right along…
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Happy Solar Return magnificent Mystic, hope you are doing wicked things O gorgeous one. xx
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84 to 90 was my prime party years single carefree etc no nostalgia tho as i’m still single and carefree ha! thats a bit sad. Same shit different decade. No i’ve learnt a lot since then and have really only put into practice in the last year.
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Weird I was just sitting here “feeling” my way back to those times – the earlier range – and thinking if I could go back I’d tell that girl I was that I loved her and it was all going to work out in the end – blind faith is what got me here, a few pointers along the way might’ve made it easier, a time travelling future self to word me up – and then my body started to rock and some weird flash of light thing happened. And now a pete townshend song my dad used to play really loud is in my head – and I just googled it and it’s about a sufi guru – who knew? Not me. In the latter pluto era we are meant to be checking out old ground of I met some sufi peeps and flashing light thing happened when they were around too. I hope I meet some more of them they were fun – does it mean we meet up with old peeps or similar style peeps to the old peeps too? Bring on the dancing sufis.
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OH MY GOD writing stuff here is the strangest thing – the simple act of setting thoughts free, I find often makes more flow – something that never really happens if I have a diary – I just had the sensation of “seeing” the way the events through those times were placed if they were terrain and then suddenly it all joined up like lustrous silk roads had been marked out. And even those words are pretty crazy in the context of those times and the people who inhabited them. I’m taking the wackiest bush flower remedy right now – went and chose it on the new moon day. Ever since then some mental stuff has happened. TOTALLY MENTAL. Blessed be the flowers.
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whatever, do you have any flower juice suggestions for remedying sudden outbursts of frustrated scorpionic energy? or is rescue remedy a good idea. Sort of need a catharsis-stopper, or something. I don’t seem able to have my catharses at home where they can happen in comfort, always happens in a really awkward public situation so i can’t totally let go and let it follow through …
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God how frustrating to actually achieve the point of epiphany but not be able to indulge it in a “safe” environment. Here’s some suggestions and if you feel like these aren’t fitting let me know and I can ask you some short “trigger” questions that will make the choice of remedy obvious.
BUSH
Dog rose of the wild forces is bush flower for becoming the still point in the chaos & balancing emotions.
Do you think you’re susceptible to to the moods of others and this might be triggering your stuff – you can’t quite put your finger on what it is that’s made you feel like releasing at times you feel aren’t appropriate? Angelsword helps with the connection to your higher self/inner voice, whatever you want to call it – tunes you to your own frequency and blocks out the unwanted randoms. Good if you spend time around neptune’s treasure chest.
Black eyed susan might help if you’re always surrounded by others and feel like time’s not your own. Gadding about relentlessly getting things done?BACH
Rescue remedy’s good for broad spectrum triage you can’t go wrong in the moment with a squirt of that.
Cherry plums the go for restoring composure – getting rid of the ticking time bomb feeling.
I read your words above about pluto and maybe hornbeam – which is for when you feel like you’ve lost your oomph.
Oak is for the stoic who just carries on regardless – are you having the outbursts because you’re not giving yourself enough rest & time to process?
Agrimony is for people who pretend eveything’s OK when it’s not – smiley face when they’re writhing on the inside.Do you have someone you can have non-sexual (I know, sorry! boring : o) quality time cups of tea, chats and hugs with? Or talk to on the phone? Our virtual world means we’re losing voices and touch and it’s not good for the soul. Hope you feel better tati – if you’re in sydney these peeps have the pics of the flowers on the shelf and you can choose a remedy by the flowers you’re drawn to then ask them to make it up for you – it’s what I did this week and it has been profound http://www.newtonspharmacy.com.au/ xxx
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this is exactly what has been happening to me!!! So freqeuntly over the course of these last two months that I think it finally manifested in physical form just to have a form of expression and I was up vomiting last night and still feel like crap. Theres a psychosomatic illness if I ever had one. I know it is because I eat extremely healthily and have only had two vomiting episodes the last few years- that is one last night, and one last September. Both times of extreme stress.
But I have absolutely no idea what to do with myself at the moment. I really have regressed back to a toddler like I was in 94/95 and have the same weird issues and am definately coming off as very insane at the moment. It’s just weird….. -
Pisceann, bush remedies pawpaw, bottlebrush and crowea are all relevant for psychosomatic stomach related things but have you considered seeing a doctor to make sure nothing else is going on re the physical symptoms? And is there anyone you can talk to face to face about your stress? A doctor will just try and give you pills for stress but maybe a trusted friend or relation or a counsellor if you’re not within range of loved ones? To help you work out how you can manage your stress so it doesn’t make you ill?
Coping with stress is often as easy as separating each aspect into its own pile and working through systematically – most urgent first and sometimes the urgent ones take care of the smaller piles. There are def peeps who can help you with that – if you’re a student there should be someone at school and it’ll be free and confidential.
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thanks whatever illl look into those remedies. One of the reasons im stressing though is to do with relationships so I’m not sure how that will work ut. Ive been calling free counsellors but so far have jsut been running circles in my head. I haven’t felt this lost since I was that young I think. And I think I’m making it worse by beating myself up for acting like a wanker. But I have really pushed people away and am living in a dreamworld….. So much so that people have started avoioding me now. And I KNOW its me, but can’t seem to get out of it….. (there I go not taking responsibility again…) I’m seriously a ‘dark sun leo’ at the mioment sucking any light from aything
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I’m also way too embarassed to go to a healer of any kind because I can feel how immature I am acting and how horrible I am to be around and I don’t want to inflict that on people- hence the pulling away
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Pisceann – I second Whatevers comment about going to see a doctor though. The way you were describing how you were feeling on a post a while ago sounded to me like how I felt when my thryoid went waywire. Very moody, ver tired, unable to think straight etc.
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It’s funny I just answered the ten of wands question for shell on the other page – it’s about being overburdened and one of the things that can lighten the load is to ask for help – no matter how wanky you think you might be being. People who work as counsellors etc. are invariably so fascinated by the workings of the mind, the intricacies of how each person puts it all together and the process of assisting the person in need of help to find ways to manage their situation that there’s not a thought of judging you in their heads. You’re like a beautiful car in the hands of a restorer. That might be a shit analogy – I’ve had a few lately, let’s not go there – but you get what I mean? The motivation of people who work in those jobs is to help not judge. You’re being much harder on yourself than they would be, of that I’m sure.
It’s zero point aries tonight – a good night to devise a plan of attack and think about how you can take control of your scenario and work towards a less stressful environment. Even if it’s just a list you can tick off as you enter this new phase with gusto ; o)
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Hi again, thanks for the advice. Shell as to the thyroid thing- I wouldn’t rule it out by any means but I’ve been in this situation before and it always starts with a psychological thing. It starts with me cutting off all my options and injecting negativity into everything and then realising I have nothing left and getting hopelessly stuck etc. But I can definately relate with the symptoms of hyperthyroidism that I read up on- with the insomnia, exhaustion, anxiety, hot flushes, diahorrea vomiting etc. But it definately starts with a constant worry in the stomach, a massive regret and grief and loss over something. It’s just a shame because in this situation I confuse the past and present and the good with the bad. So I end up cutting off amazing new influences and going back to old relationships with family and friends that are sucking out my energy and making me feel like absolute shit. But I have no awareness of it. I am booking a session with a psychologist tomorrow but was thinking maybe hypnotherapy or something would work better? Just because I’ve been calling up free counsellors like once or twice a week over the last 2 months and talking about it doesnt seem to be helping me to get out of this head trip. Also I guess massage and maybe acupuncture or something too? I’m not sure.
Once I kind of rouse myself from this disconnected stupor I seem to go into high anxiety panic attack mode and I haven’t had one of those for years. Breathing into a paper bag and everything. But completely immobile otherwise. It definately has roots in my life situation at the moment but I can’t decifer what actions I should take. Listmaking has helped to a point but I think I’m using it to distract myself from the real issues I need to sort out.Anyway! I’ll stop because you guys have given me good advie and I’ll be following up on it and see what I can do to help myself. So thanksa gain
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I definitely agree with letting someone help you. I have been trying to deal with a lot of shit all on my own lately, and have felt the anxiety you describe pisceann. I saw my new psychic/medium last week and she told me I had to seek out a social worker or someone, that there are people out there who want to and can help. Next day, all my problems were sorted (well at least up until last week’s problems) by a lovely lady the moment I walked into a local community organisation.
The relief from the burden was immense.
I don’t normally like to impose myself, and often don’t feel deserving of help. But it really does work. Reach out. There are lots of people wanting to help you who can. -
thanks so much whatever!!! you are so perceptive!!
You’re right that it’s often to do with being susceptible to other people’s moods and generally very reactive, rather than choosing how my attitude will be. And feeling a bit like I am having to be there for other people all the time and do what they want & behave in a way to please them. Whew. This does not sit at all well with my “must be in control” Scorp nature. Time to reclaim power for myself, or something.And wise advice about sorting out the stressy things and working through them systematically and making resolutions.
Pisceannn – sometimes it feels like stress reactions are stress trying to physically work it’s way out of your body – vomiting, skin rashes, acne, headaches, stomach pain etc – it’s all like something erupting & trying to get out…. much like an emotional catharsis that never quite happens.
Sending you a virtual hug – I know what it feels like. What you’ve described is a lot like how I feel a lot of the time.
The last thing you will feel like is looking after yourself right now but you deserve it (yes you do) and it’s really important for you right now – your most amount of compassion needs to be for yourself.
I need to follow my own advice. See, I’m good at seeing what others need and lousy at implementing it for myself.I do however strongly second the idea of going to a counsellor, preferably one who can take you on for an open-ended treatment time not just a few sessions. It might take a few goes before you find one you can totally trust, too, because you will need to feel able to trust them with your feelings no matter how awful or profound.
The panic attacks will probably stop once you make a decision – it’s all part of a process.
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Oh tati I just thought I should’ve said, not a good idea to mix the bach and the bush (well some peeps do but I was taught not to) I gave both choices because some people have a preference so you could choose your weapon. xxx
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This picture reminds me of a dream/nightmare I sometimes have – edging along a rickety balcony or staircase with no banisters or railings, with a long drop below me. Makes my palms sweat just thinking about it!
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Just wanted to say good-bye to my friends here at least for some while as my Mom died this morning. Yesterday she’d said she’d been out of breath when she even did the littlest bit of walking in the apt. and this morning, something woke me and I noticed her light was on. I went in to her room and she would not respond. The paramedics came and told me she was gone.
So, won’t be in much of a whimsical mood for awhile but in all honesty, she was ready to go. She told me several times that she was just sick of being here. But I’ll miss her and grieve for our journey together. I loved her very much and we had always been close.
Good-bye my large hearted Double Leonian Mom xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo
Thanks for being such fun and wonderful friends here guys. God Bless you all.
Love, Sweetpea xo
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Omg Sweetpea, I’m sorry to hear that…… ((((((((HUGS))))))
Take as much time as you need. When you’re ready, let us know how you’re going, ok? I hope your Mom is in a place she feels better about, less discomfort.
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I’m still on line and just wanted to also say that here in the northern hemisphere she died on the first day of spring which is very sweet and comforting to me. Like a fresh start for her.
Thank you UPV. xo
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SWEETPEA BIG LOVE COMING RIGHT ATCHA.
I will light a candle for you tomorrow if that’s OK?
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oh baby all of my heart goes out to you. My sincerest condolences, even if you don’t read this. i wish we could be there to help you and give support in a more practical way. i wish your mother a safe journey onwards xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Sweetpea, I’m so sorry to hear about your loss. Bless her. Sending you strength and peace.
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Sweetpea, my heart goes out to you. Take care of yourself during this time. Peace. Love.
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Glad to see your back in the saddle BL x
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Oh Sweetpea, I’m so sorry to hear that. Please know that I am thinking of you, as we all are, and sending hugs and blessings to you and your Mom. Xx
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Blessings Sweetpea,
Hope your Mom’s journey is full of light and love that showers you and yours with grace. Maybe you can somewhat enjoy having her funeral celebration with all your family and friends. It’s a special time. She must have been amazing to have given the world such an wonderful daughter in you. God bless darling, sending you light. Xxoo.
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Dear Sweetpea, my heart goes out to you, am so sorry to hear this news. Will light a candle for you both also. *big hug*
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big love to you sweetpea
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I’m so sorry Sweets. Take care of yourself. xx
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Oh Sweetpea, I just read this..darling, all my heart goes out to you. My Piscean Mum was the same, when she was done, she was done..and just like that she went.
My thoughts are with you and know that she is at peace. xxoo
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dear sweetpea – have enjoyed reading your comments over the months. so sad to hear about your mum. lots of love and care to you and your loved ones. x
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Darling sweetpea, sorry to hear about your loss honey. Do what you need to do and come back to us soon, wishing you and your family strength and a long life. I will light a candle for you and your mum tonight. Wish I was there to give you a big hug x
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Thank you! Tears welling up, literally…xo
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oh sweetest of SweetPeas, you are such a treasure. So sorry to hear of your loss. I’m in shock. Had to grab some tissues before I could continue reading.
My heart goes out to you. You’ll be in my thoughts today. Will light a candle for you and your mum tonight. Hope you feel our love and find some solace in our blessings.
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ((((hugs)))
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Big hugs and kisses to you darling Sweetie.
Take care
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“Angels fall like rain”….
“The ghost in you, she don’t fade…”
Guess there was a reason why I downloaded this song recently….
“Love is only heaven away…”
“Don’t you go, it makes no sense…”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aMHL1lEQBk
As soon as I relocate, will see ya…Thanks again guys.
~Love~…..
You can’t give it away..
xo
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O travel safely lovely sweetie. I was shocked last night and didn’t know what to say. Just love to you is all.
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For the Double Leo, RIP.
The Seed Market
(A Poem by Rumi)
Can you find another market like this?
Where, with your one rose
you can buy hundreds of rose gardens?Where,
for one seed
get a whole wilderness?For one weak breath,
a divine wind?You’ve been fearful
of being absorbed in the ground,
or drawn up by the air.Now, your waterbead lets go
and drops into the ocean,
where it came from.It no longer has the form it had,
but it’s still water.
The essence is the same.This giving up is not a repenting.
It’s a deep honoring of yourself.When the ocean comes to you
as a lover,
marry at once,
quickly,
for God’s sake!Don’t postpone it!
Existence has no better gift.No amount of searching will find this.
A perfect falcon,
for no reason
has landed on your shoulder,
and become yours.-
Your intelligence and sensitivity is much appreciated UV xxx
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Thank Rumi. xx
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Sweetpea, so sorry to hear your mum has passed on; it sounds like you woke as she passed – a state of Grace? Blessings to you and your family at this time.
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Sweetpea.
hugs, love and light to you.
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Aww my sympathies to you and your family Sweatpea on the loss of your dear Mother. It sounds like she had a very smooth transition. May she rest in peace! Love to you.
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Sweetpea,
Sending you several big hugs … you are being very brave. Sorry to hear this, take care of yourself.
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Sorry to hear of your loss. Stay strong, big luv
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