D.I.Y. Astro: Retrograde Wisdom

Right now, Mars and Saturn are Retrograde. And linked in such a way that they could work awesomely together in tandem.

Given that these are powerful, action-planets & that Saturn lends wisdom to the oomph of Mars + their being retrograde is about a revision, it makes sense to look at where they are in your chart.

Mars is at 6 Leo and Saturn at 4 Libra. ie; the very early degrees of these signs. Find which house (chart sector) these are in your chart and think about what to do with that area of life can be ruthlessly revamped and with great glee.  Because that’s the kind of energy it is and it’s totally worth tapping into.

Think: Extra willpower, elegant control and chic assertion in the areas of your scope/chart/life where you have early Leo and early Libra. Also that the arena for this steely evolution is one that has been activated since early last November.  And that you’re kind of stuck at this point, going back and forth until you totally get something. Like, REALLY get it. Grokking the issue du jour.

Think this through enough and you will get an ‘aha’ moment.

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  1. virgo cat’s avatar

    1st house and 10th house. Is this a sign I should put WORK (MY work) before EVERYTHING else? Somehow I think it is.

    Or that I totally need to assess whether the work I am currently doing is really me…

    ????

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  2. saggigal’s avatar

    ive really noticed the revamping in these two areas- thank you mystic!
    mars retro in 4th, saturn retro in the 6th for me. and ive pretty easily (im still shocked at how easily) gone vegan and macrobiotic, something ive never even really thought that much about but suddenly a little while ago i started reading up on it and Boom. done. same with yoga. started it and suddenly was there 5 mornings a week. loving the ritual, regularity, rhythm of my mornings. as fpr mars, ive completely reassessed where and how i want to live, with a house move in the works for March (coincidentally, when mars goes direct ;) ) So ive really appreciated these transits. i feel like im sorting out my foundations so that i can then take my attention to my big visionary lofty goals.

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    1. postmodscorp’s avatar

      I’m 4 and 6 too Saggigal! But My fourth house revamp is much more roots and origins, and dealing with father stuff (in a very good way), and my sixth house stuff has been about really identifying who I want to be when I grow up, and continueing to nail the exercise thing….. health and fitness was it for the bulk of my saturn return, and as we retro back there the work and routine aspect is much stronger….

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      1. FireTrine’s avatar

        Am 4th and 6th too Saggigal and postmodscorp!
        Sun in 4th (Leo at 5 deg) Pluto in 6th (Lib at 4 deg).

        Ditto on the dealing with the dad postmodscorp, I have done so much work on family in the last months, and it is finally taking effect!

        Even my Sagg Ex wrote to me and said he regretted everything he’d done wrong and I had shared 4th house Sun with him.

        As for 6th, have gone sugar-free and dairy free as baby seems to react badly to me doing what I merry well want. Gotta get this body back together as it serves a family not just me. And never has routine been so important as in the last weeks with so much change around the home due to new addition.

        A 6-4 whopper combo f’shizzle.

        When is your birthday saggigal? I gotta know…

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        1. Virgoan one’s avatar

          Yup, 4 and 6 for me too! Haha, have spent the last few days ’serving’ my flatmates by cleaning, rearranging and bringing them food from work.

          6th house – have just gone cold turkey on the high sugar diet I used to have. Was tough, but am out the end of the first week and feeling much better.
          Have also been reassessing my feeling re: conventional and complementary medicines – e.g. should I take roaccutane or not, as its making me feel terrible.

          ahh, love these DIY astro times.

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        2. saggigal’s avatar

          firetrine – december 14. xx

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  3. Sweetpea’s avatar

    Mars conjunct Uranus trine Mercury and Saturn opp. Mercury.

    Have decided that my Gem Mars/Asc needs to be allowed some play in between typing pages (yikes this is the most boring part of getting my book onto this computer), so, this means allowing myself to go out of WordPerfect and into astro site pages just for a breather. Just don’t see it working any other way and today I got that…

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    1. Sweetpea’s avatar

      Mars close to 3rd cusp, Saturn in 4th close to 5th cusp

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  4. unpredictable pisces’s avatar

    ok, in my 2nd and 3rd houses…”embodiment of worth” and “neighbourhood, networks and communications”….

    i think it’s time that i really take stock of how much (or how little) i value myself…”i am worthy” comes up a lot as an affirmation for this fish… putting myself out there, and knowing that i am worth having as a friend, a colleague, a contact, and having the confidence to express that or just, like, Live It.

    speaking with more confidence – ohhh hahahahahah saturn in my 3rd, yet another communication challenge as i am currently in a foreign country learning aforeign language and continually trying to talk myself out of daily crisis of confidence, *light bulb moment*

    yes ok thanks mystic i’ll take it from there xxxxxxxxxxxx

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    1. Sweetpea’s avatar

      Well wow, UP, speaking a new language would be a challenge and good on you for being brave..

      Over here we have a group called Toast Master’s which teaches you to speak in front of other’s with confidence. Tarot lady suggested I look into that..You know, for my book tour and all ;)

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      1. Sweetpea’s avatar

        ~others~

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      2. unpredictable pisces’s avatar

        hey SP i am in toastmasters too :) it’s great – I am the PR officer but not doing the greatest job – probbly a saturn/3rd challenge i am yet to meet

        do you enjoy it? really helps with any sort of public speaking or corro I think :)

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  5. Libra twins’s avatar

    I’ve been panicking over long term goals since November, middle age crisis at Uranus return etc. Tried to change careers but didn’t get into course.

    Now I’m reminded of Saturn going back over opposition with natal again and conjunct MC/IC, so it’s been jumping up and down on these since November.
    Long term goals stymied (what a perfect word) by Mars retro now squaring natal Saturn.
    Maybe I’m just supposed to be an accountant for life. Sigh, what a sentence.

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    1. Libra twins’s avatar

      Sorry Saturn in my 4th (natally 10th), Mars in 2nd and yes have been redoing our budget constantly lately. Trying to make it work.

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  6. Pegasus’s avatar

    Nothing going on for me there astro wise but the phrase
    ‘Elegant & Assertive action’ is exactly what i need to be about.
    AND, am going back & forth over things workwise & need to
    revise, revise revise. The Pluto in Sagg, yes, how true about it’ being over
    & still thinking you’re in it’, but, as Rising & Venus is in Capricorn,
    i’m starting to mantra ‘the never ending story’, (Didn’t Bowie make
    a movie called that?) regarding Saturn, Time & Learning.
    Chronocology?

    Saturn in Leo……a royalty of lessons learnt the hard way?
    (The crone at the crossroads or the maven making the most of it?)
    Yipes, always restless on Sag Moon.

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    1. postmodscorp’s avatar

      Bowie was in Labyrinth. Never Ending Story came out about that time too… but don’t think he was in it…

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  7. virgolicious’s avatar

    so, just to clarify, am I looking at the houses in my chart that Saturn and Mars are CURRENTLY transiting?

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    1. Sweetpea’s avatar

      Yes licious

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      1. virgolicious’s avatar

        thanks Sweetpea – then Mystic is bang on as usual. 7th and 9th it is then, relationships and questing for a different sort of life. Check, and check.

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  8. Baristagem’s avatar

    Mars in 5th & Saturn in 7th

    Last November was Saturn return & this is all tied up with that. I have been trying to sort through some stuff & I just know when I really get it sorted out I will know exactly where I want to be… & will have some pretty useful skills to show for it. Until then back to work…..

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    1. pisceannn’s avatar

      Same!!! It’s hurting pretty bad..

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  9. Uranian&Plutonic Virgo’s avatar

    Mars 6 Leo in 9th house, conjuncting natal Venus at 0 degree. Am waiting & biding my time to do any reaching related to work, both for vet nursing CV drop-offs & applying for a Div. 2 fully-funded course.
    Saturn 4 Libra in 11th house, near natal Pluto at 12 degrees. It’ll be wowee when Saturn hits on my Pluto-North Node conjunction alright…

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  10. lady j’s avatar

    Mars in 5th (natal Gemini!) & Saturn in 8th — November brought some interesting relationships that never festered into anything more than one-night stands/faux friendships. Since then I haven’t had any romantic pursuits — since Gemini is in 5th house, I presume it’s time to get back out there? I’ve been having a positive outlook on love, but I feel like it’s going to come to me this time rather than me scouting it out.

    As for Saturn in 8th, I feel like my sense acuity with people and spiritual phenomenon has reached the same interest and peak as it did in November — I have become more in tune and accepting of picking up on energy and information from people and things. Unfortunately, I cannot tell anything about myself and where I am headed. : / Hopefully this will bring out a different change?

    Any others in the same boat?

    xx

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  11. Seabird’s avatar

    Mystic, I would love it if you could provide a crib to what your take on the houses is. Every time i see a post of yours about the houses, I then google to see which house is about what, but the answers sometimes confuse me and I find it hard to apply the information to myself.

    Mars in early Leo in my 3rd

    Saturn in Cancer in the 2nd

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    1. shell’s avatar

      aye me to (the house thing that is)

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    2. Über Virgo’s avatar

      Hang on, Seabird. You need to look at transiting Mars and Saturn, which are currently sextiling each other. The Mars retro has probably formed a conjunction with your natal Mars in Leo in the 3rd, while Saturn is currently in Libra, so probably transiting your 5th house. Therefore, as Mystic advises, the 3rd and 5th houses are the ones that would benefit from revamping and revisioning during this transit. 3rd house is ruled by Gemini and is about communications. 5th house is ruled by Leo and is about self expression, creativity, art and children.

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  12. shell’s avatar

    Mars in 1st, Saturn in 2nd
    Mars also zooming up to natal mars/asc/saturn thingy.
    Talk about working in tandem.
    Setting in place structures to manage how I go about what I do so that through them I can be more the person I want to be.
    Bloody hell I’m tired though.

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    1. shell’s avatar

      Actually i was thinking about this yesterday re natal houses, which would be 3rd/5th. Since Oct, and until June, I have/will be on a paper writing frenzy. And it’s all about coralling my creative meanderings into something structured that can be distributed to the masses (or academics anyway).
      Getting a handle on the 1st/2nd thing so i can be super successful at the 3rd/5th thing is really what it’s about.

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  13. bluelibra’s avatar

    Not sure if this could be deemed as ‘elegant control’ but the ex-gem-slut-boy flew out to Hawaii this morning to meet his ‘new love’.

    He sent me a text:

    ‘Boarding! See ya! Be good!’

    To which I replied:

    ‘Bon voyage and I am good. In fact it has been said often that I am excellent. :) .’

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    1. Uranian&Plutonic Virgo’s avatar

      That is BRILLIANT, bluelibra!!! What an ace reply! :)

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    2. scorpalicious robot’s avatar

      yes, nice one Bluelibra! Definitely ‘elegant control’

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  14. matthew-minerva’s avatar

    Mars is in my 6th House, Trine Natal Mercury, Sun, Jupiter and Pluto Square Venus
    Saturn in my 8th, squaring Natal moon and Conjunct Chiron
    wat the hell does this mean?

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  15. nat’s avatar

    I’m confused.

    Are we supposed to look at our Natal Chart to see what houses the early degrees of Leo & Libra fall into? (i.e. not the placements of Mars & Saturn in our Natal Chart)?

    Any astro wisdom would be gratefully appreciated.

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    1. Baristagem’s avatar

      Only transiting positions nat ;)

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      1. nat’s avatar

        Thanks Barista. I’m not that confident interpreting the transit chart from Astrodienst… but I think retro Mars (in Leo) is transiting my 10th House and Saturn (in Libra) is transiting my 12th House…

        Soooo, 10th House would represent vocational concerns, place in the world, executive & organisational abilities, authorities (including Father), status, reputation, amassing wealth (he he, bring it!)

        12th House highlights spiritual life, isolation, other realities, merging with higher energies, dreams, visions, retreats from the world, healing…

        Yes, I can see some “chic assertion” developments in some these areas but I will need to think about it some more to link the two. Need a cuppa. Good night all x

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        1. unpredictable pisces’s avatar

          good luck with the analysis natty nat nat :)

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          1. nat’s avatar

            thanks U*P*! I keep missing your posts so hope you see this reply. I gather that you are O*S*. Yay! Can you say which country… do not disclose if you don’t want to – I never state my specific location on the internet (I just typed “internat” then, bahahaha, what a mad old system that would be!). Hope you are going well and that taking some time & space from the Le Taurus is healthy for you x

  16. Plum’s avatar

    12th/2nd. Bread and secrets indeed.

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  17. Jac’s avatar

    Hello Lovely Peeps, could anyone share there wisdom on how to best work this transit when you have a Leo rising, must say, a little lost for a plan and I am a girl who loves a plan! XX

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    1. unpredictable pisces’s avatar

      strategise for the new you? stronger and more powerful? image and how you come across to the world. more power avail to you esp after mars is back in action ~mid march. I am picturing you hunkering down working out how and where you want to be / appear powerful, dynamic, active, etc. Then once it goes direct, barging through your saloon-style doors with a blam! and a fresh attitude.
      my 2c :)

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