Okay so I have banged on about this in the Scopes & the Daily Mystic at length but, briefly, this is the sort of Full Moon Eclipse that would have had the ancients merrily bunging up their drawbridge & perhaps stationing a few extra guards around the place.
Retrograde Mars Rises, Saturn & Pluto are in square, Venus + Pluto and the Sun are opposed/eclipsed…the Full Moon is in the emo sign of Cancer & the whole thing tends toward muckraking, grudge flashpoints and definitely a poignant stirring of any unresolved feelings. Less poignant would be if you are in a relationship repressing a virtual tsunami of torrid unaddressed irks re security, shared $$$, sex and fertility…
Oh and Retro-Mars rising can inspire twits into lower level assertiveness.
The good? Oh well, high-Qi emotional breakthroughs & awareness, perspective of course. Still, I shall be cocooning, for the days around this Eclipse…It’s strong from right now…Keep a vast artists pad close at hand to scribble stream-of-consciousness findings and your major aha moments. Think especially in terms of freshly understanding your personal history, how/why things happened the way they did.
If you want to get really astro-fiend/cosmic about this, apart from the general catharthis it’s like a confrontation between the patriarchy and the feminine divine…Not only is it the Cancerian Full Moon (Artemis etc) opposing the Sun (Apollo) in the Saturnine sign of Capricorn, the chart for the Eclipse just oozes Saturn squares (reality check to the max, ready or not) AND Mars opposes Lilith…
Stay serene, keep being gorgeous, enjoy your insights & see you on Jan 4…& THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE IN 2009…also, all you subscribers & peeps who got cosmic consults – thank you for helping to keep this site naff-advertising free!!! xx
Tags: 2010 astrology, Daily horoscopes, Eclipses astrology, Full Moon Eclipse 2009, Full Moon in Cancer, Gervasio Gallardo, Retrograde Mars, Venus Pluto in Capricorn
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it is also on my birthday. should i stay home ?
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I am interpreting it as not to do anything that feels too risky or out of comfort zone, you know. Not to not leave the house but not to do amything that does not feel right either. So I am going out but within walking distance to my house and with simpatico types, easy people, the known and homie environment
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I’m an Aries….Do as you damn well please girl…B-day only once a year…EXtra spec. to me….Also special is an eclipse on your Sun… Look up “eclipse on your Solar Return” on the web and get some ideas….
Can mean you may be noticed in some wonderful new way for starters, or that men (The Sun, Animus) may be important to you, or, that you may use Your Will (The Sun/ego) in a way pertinent to you..
And Happy Birthday!!
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oooh, I’m going to channel this bit: ” apart from the general catharthis it’s like a confrontation between the patriarchy and the feminine divine…”
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Like that was the story of my childhood, and explains why I live a CONTINENT away from my family. Next time I will use that as the most succinct explanation for my escape to America.
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the flood of teary Cancerian wallowing has already started … *sigh*
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Shall I stroke your boots for you Prowlin? Hugs. Yes, mine did on the 24th.
AND my car got hit by a Rabbi at the mall parking lot yesterday. No punchline, that actually happened.
AND all sorts of Martian Men are oozing out of the woodwork save for the one I actually want to emerge from it. If I took every offer for coffee up I should be able to avoid sleep till the New Year.
AND that one is a Cappo while I am a Cancer so the astro is making me wanna go “Oppose this M’er Effer”
But I did get a whole bunch of really nice gym pants as my Lilith is VERY frustrated and taking it out THERE five x a week. Ah the silver slim lining…
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i’ve just been reading tarot cards for other people. I’ve avoided that for years but it’s just pouring out of me like a proverbial well of intergalactic connection. Anything. ANYTHING to avoid my own well of self absorbtion, self pitying, wallowing CRAP. God I hate it when stuff is in Cancer … particularly a friggin full moon eclipse. I spend so much time pretending I’m not one. *grumps*
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Oh HON, I SOOOO get where you are! BUT I must say through the years I’ve been managing to catch the flip side of Katak Moon activity i.e. tons of pitiful crying, smeegel like self-flagellating followed by luminous vibrating as if I have inhaled all the powers of the Moon, can see, hear, know, feel ALL as a Goddess Incarnate.
That sounds slightly bipolar but Cancer is nothing if not ebbing and flowing…at least you are using your magna-vibes to help peeps!
I just bought 5 gym pants, painted my nails in Black Diamond while reading Utopia and about 5 other books…so yes, distractions galore!
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I hate it I hate it I hate IT!!! That damn moon … that friggin ebbing and friggin flowing can go friggin ebb and flow in someone elses life. I have Gem Asc thankyouverymuch and Sagg moon. Neither of which have time for all this bollocks. Ok so I honoured that most hated part of myself today and had a good ol’ cry – at least 4 tissues were involved. Then just sat reading cards like a machine.
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yeah but no but yeah but… Prowln there are SO MANY lovely Cancerian things about you. Like you are an artist, you have your own ability to create & make things, you are a Goddess in the kitchen… Can you not channel the ebb and flow into those areas a bit more? Draw/cook/create your way through it? And (yes, I am lecturing you here, if you can’t find the thing you want right now you have to BE it).
And what do you mean 4 tissues? Surely you mean 4 boxes of tissues – thats a cry
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I was just thinking where do Cancer & Saggo intersect? Maybe take your Cancerian Sun and Saggo Moon to the beach prowln? Yes, a VERY long walk on the beach will sort you out, little crabby one x
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at a bbq darling Nat, that would be the convergence of Cancer Sun and Sagg Moon, cooking while telling lots of jokes slightly tinged with Lunar Laughter. With Prowlin’s Gem Asc she should also be able to mix drinks, do a jig, maybe a spot of Karaoke while slapping down a sausage on someone’s plate with a snicker.
Once she gets through Super Nova 5 of course.
My eclipsing resulted in more shopping (fortunately or unfortunately) – it may be my Venus in Leo sulking mightily. Truly I am feeling so Q. Elizabeth right now, surrounded by knaves I have no taste for EXCEPT the fuqing one I’d like to feast on. Seriously, does it have to be this hard???
NO matter. Whatevah happens, these boots are made for walkin…
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close Angel … but yes long walk along beach would have me sticking rocks down my trakky daks and hoofing it into the ocean ready to End It All. Too much preponderance. Sorry Nat, I appreciate the effort. *grin*
Gem Asc requires TALKING … lots. Cancer Sun/Venus requires talking IN DEPTH lots. Sag moon requires talking in depth lots and to LOTS of people. Leo Merc just likes being a verbal show pony.
The Best Thing is what I’ve been doing – tarot readings. Hours and hours of them. Pondering over other peeps issssues, in a rock steady environment with cool as music and witticisms aplenty for the less than salubrious guests. Oddly enough it is working a treat, the readings are spot on considering I’ve given them a 3 card – 5 min time limit.
This one fuckwit … I mean guest asked “I’m going hunting and I want to know if I’m going to kill a deer?” … Obviously my innards were ACHING to scream at him that what he required was to put down his stupid arsed gun and go get a fuqing education in conservation land management.
But I shut up.
The card he drew was The Empress. Brilliant! Respect for nature and Mother Earth. So simple. Couldn’t have said it better myself as I snickered and handed over the cosmic message. Trying not to snicker of course cause we all have our journey and blah blah blah.
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Hey prowlin, I’m with you on the full moon eclipse in Kataka – it’s hitting my moon in the 5th and my French Kataka lovely – everything has gone pear-shaped! I dumped him but can’t let him go, weird text messages, full on texting arguments; and I might be pregnant (eep!). Anyway was given the Alistair Crowley pack by my sister a while back and did the Celtic Cross for myself on one occasion (I’m being very respectful of these cards) and the result to the question (card 10) was the Princess of Disks. Question was in relation to my relationship with Kataka. Anyway did his cards to his own question and his resolution (card 10) was Prince of Disks and his card 6 (future influences) was Princess of Disks. Please tell me if im preggers??
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sweetie if you wanna know if you are preggers take a test pronto! With Cancer in the 5th your idea of fun now is serious homemaking, power shopping at Ikea with your beloved and generally enjoying lots of cuddles over yummy home cooked meals. No messin about.
What the cards are showing you is that you’re both learning how to “bring it down into the real world” …. the relationship that is. And because you’re talking about knights and pages (princess/prince in new decks) it means growing and learning as you go. It’s a new relationship so that makes perfect sense, but on an emotional level you are growing and learning how to actually “do” this relationship business with each other.
Growing pains are normal! Is it just you texting or both of you going back and forth? You need to sit down together and on a practical level be grown ups to have honest discussions about how this is going to work for you and what you both want.
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It’s too early to do the test. And yes we text back and forth. His visa runs out 22 Jan and he’s gotta go. He needs to do another year of his profession before he can become a resident. When we’re together it’s total cocooning, but there’s other factors like hey I have children and his parents are here (and they don’t speak English) and he has to take care of them and he’s a cancer so of course he does. And the there’s his fuqing aqua rising that is always weirding around. Anyway….
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if you like email me at prowlncat@hotmail.com and we can tee up something more suitable offblog.
but good to actually SEE YOU Ms FF *grin*
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Full Moon Eclipse + severe PMT = a very quiet and insular NYE for moi!!!
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I am feeling mega bitched up at men , no it’s more society in general, which no amount of ocean swimming, meditation and Bach flower remedies seem to shift. And so thank you mystic because at least now I have a cosmic reason for my rage. Godess vs patriarchy indeed. A huge catharsis moment is upon me I am sure. Grrr. And there I was thinking I was cruising through the build up to the eclipse season pretty well. Oh well. More wonderful ’stuff ‘ to release, right?
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I would like to know if we called a 15 minute world wide Prayer to Lilith, invoking the heart focus of every single female on the planet, if it will finally a) significantly improve conditions for world peace, b) create subsidies for alternative treatments, cosmetic surgery and well, shoes, c) make most things in relationships a LOT more straightforward, i.e. girl likes boy, either asks the other out, they get on or they don’t, end of story, and d) make having a real woman’s figure THE norm rather than being a bobble headed skinnitarian who is all hair and bug eyed shades?
Seriously. Funny enough I was meditating on Lady Godiva today, mainly as I have been feeling rather Rapunzel’d waiting for the Comedy Cappo to come out of the Tundra. When really I’d rather be horse riding through the streets with nary a stitch to meet him somewhere for a meaningful conversation
But Saggi do not despair, I was reading Psych Today and they had an article on the Nice Woman’s Sweet Revenge, por ejemplo:
“In 2003 Clair Harris ran over her dentist husband – twice – after he told her to get a boob job and lose weight so HE’D stop sleeping with his receptionist, only to be caught coming out of a motel with the younger woman. The jurors who convicted her wept – and begged she be given the lightest possible sentence.”
I’d say that has Lilith written all over it.
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Ha! The article sounds fab, FA.
And i LOVE your idea to have cosmetic surgery and alt therapies subsidised. Bit of Botox on medicare, followed by a fantastic neck massage. Stress free and no more frown lines
And yes, why aren’t relationships more straight-forward………
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Lol, that made me smile for the first time today fa! I love that the jurors wept for her. Yes indeed!
And yes, normal womens figures! I can’t believe generation after generation has to fight for that one. I am fed up enough is enough had it ip to here with the entertainment industry, mens mags, womens mags too, all sporting teens and early twenties as the epitomy of beauty. And I am OVAH the word ‘hot’. Just fuq off. I am so sick of it all. Oh dear Lilith please grant me some reprise soon!! Xx-
EXACTLY, Sagg! When does it end – generation after generation of this perpetuated “women can only defined by their looks if they want to count” BS! And what makes me most angry is when I feel crap for being me when the sexier, younger, etc etc chick walks in and all male attention turns to her. WHY do I still suffer from this when I know what’s going on???
I”m smart and funny and creative. When are those traits going to be worth more so women have something to aspire to? It always seems to be about less and less – less weight, less age, less hair – BLAH! Over it!
Here’s to a new decade when more diverse, cool, un-objectified women of every age take the spotlight and women stop buying/creating stupidy wimmin’s mags which perpetuate the whole “body-centric, ridiculously youth-obsessed, wisdom-less” bulllll! And can we PLEASE ditch crapola words like “cougar” and “yummy mummy.” ICK!
There. Vent over. Feel better now.
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Oui, the article was par excellence darlings! And it quotes a Fortune 500 female Vice President who photocopied vital documents proving nearly all the women in the company were paid $20 to $25K LESS than all the men, which resulted in a grievance that won female employees the correct compensation. She said anonymously, “The best revenge is simply to make the truth known.”
And Le Truth is we are more than our physical endowments. I mean, kudos to the hot chicks but that ain’t got staying power. Don’t get me wrong, I LOVE it when men react that way to me, I am truly that vain. But what does it get?
When I know potentially once I open my mouth and evidence of a brain, or worse, remnants of Lilith start seeping though, depending on the man, he will either get turned off as the brain activity required to focus on my conversation interferes with erectile function.
OR. If he’s the good sort, it truly makes him more enthralled. Yes, I get pissed off about it too, specially HERE in LA, for crying out loud, where hipsters abound with irksome sound bites masquerading as convo. Yet I’m glad that in a way it has become a handy filtering system to root out those I should not waste my time on, I have no interest in and who’d hardly do anything for me in Le Sak.
As for objectification, I pursue a non-discriminatory policy on that one. You can objectify me as long as I can objectify YOU. Bend over Baby… whooooo!
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“As for objectification, I pursue a non-discriminatory policy on that one. You can objectify me as long as I can objectify YOU. Bend over Baby… whooooo!”
Aaahahahahha! Quote. Of. The. Century.
With you on that one FA, and oooh BOY do people that way inclined HATE IT when you give them a taste of their own medicine.
All the while I just calmly vibe “What’s got your knickers in a knot? I thought that’s what you wanted…after all, it is how you treat moi, no?” -
“the brain activity required to focus on my conversation interferes with erectile function.”
buahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha….
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Oh ye speaketh the truth, Gilded, and isn’t it SO hilarious that these “people” have the temerity to look absolutely affronted when one simply mirrors their lovely behavior??
I once had a tryst with my ex, the WHU (Well Hung Uranian) who, bless his little heart, likes to really lay it on THICK with the compliments when he was angling for a shag. I’m a busy woman, I ain’t got time, state your name, rank, serial number and let’s build this bridge.
Hence when the deed was done, he was luxuriously coming in for a cuddle when I swept all my clothes up like I just got drafted to war and said, Doll, it’s been fun, gotta go!
It was not ill meant, but ’twas the only thing we had in common so I saw no point in pretending otherwise. I had work the next day etc. The man clutched the sheets to his chest and I could’ve sworn his lip quivered. Like I raped him or something. Then THEY dare complain when a lady prefers they spend the night after some romance?
Oh yes, aquaphobe – at times I feel like I need that karaoke bouncing ball to help them, “follow the words, sweetie, follow the words, stop looking at my tits”.
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“follow the words, sweetie, follow the words…”
HAHAHAHA…
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I hear ya Stress Princess. I LOATHE those terms “yummy mummy” and “Cougar”. AAARRGH!! And I’m sick of hearing about the personal lives of celebrities on the news. Yes, the news!!! Gee, if i was interested in hearing the 911 message the stupid fuckwit Charlie Sheen’s wife/girlfriend or whatever left i’d go and read it in the trash mags. How does that make the news? Pffft. I’m not interested in their boring lives. Go away already! I thought Pluto in Cap was going to be the end of celebrity worship. *sigh*
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Our society has lost all …. all … Class. Style. Purpose. Integrity. *sigh*
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i despair at humanity sometimes. I really do.
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God i’m so glad to hear you ladies think the same way. Tonight of all nights I need to feel that I’m not fighting out this whole thing all on my lonesome. And yea, I totally have that inner conflict of feeling inadequate/ wanting the attention myself and yet hating the paradigm that sets women up to feel that way in the first place.
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Ugh. Also hate “MILF” as well as “cougar”. Older woman with younger man does not = predatory, just LUCKY and possibly a bit immature.
Am feeling slightly sensitive on this issue as 3 out of last 4 men were MUCH younger. hmph.
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agreed! The news have became tabloids. I hate tabloids and don’t buy them now, I turn off the news.
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OMG “Cougar” has got me steamed too Scorpy! And guess wot?
One of my close male gay friends was having a bitchy jealous moment as we walked arm in arm through the shops, having just turned 30 he seems under the illusion that he is shielded from the process of aging and actually asked me, “So Angel, how do you feel when people look at us and think you’re a cougar??”
I coulda slapped him. But in my utmost dulcet tones I replied back sweetly, “Oh darling I DON’T think about it, after all, I hardly look my age and I think you’re greatly underestimating yours.”
I will NOT be out-bitched!
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Oh and yes, Scorpy I also make it a point to AVOID celebrity brands like the plague. Seriously is it not enough they’re polluting my culture they have to get into the stuff too?
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OOOH, nice come back FA!! I would have been pissed off with that comment too!
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ooh FA totally fab!!
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yep, me too…had some sort of steam vent last night at work. snapping at a group of them and being sour faced. walked outside for five to talk myself down. in the vein of …WTF….why am i being a cow….its like part of me wanted to swat them like mozzies.
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Thanks Mystic, your astromagic has made an at times right shit of a year much more bearable and been the only line in the sand sometimes that i could point to. And laugh at. Bless.
Hope your 2010 is a wee cracker xx
I have called off all NYE plans with people I know and opted at the last minute for a festival with reiki, organic food and great music, taken solo. Tomorrow. Will be leaving the phone at home and immersing myself in hippy love and eclipse magic.
Love to you all for the new decade x
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LOL cancerian eclipse + hippie love = pack contraception & rizlas
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and pizza
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mmmmmmm pizza
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Oohhhhhhh, deary me. My b’day is on the 31st. (Cap sun, Cancer moon). My Saggo boyfriend and are at a very tense, hardly-speaking, avoiding each other all day and night type of place (which is esp tense considering we live together.)
My Cancer bro is visiting from overseas with 2 gorgeous (Leo and Virgo redheaded) toddlers and his ‘mood-swings-r-us’ Saggo wife, and they’re staying at my bitched-up Scorp mother’s house. On Thurs, we’re having a big family “happy b’day me/ Happy NY” thing at mother’s house – Saggo boyfriend is invited too…
Ergh. Should I just stay home and play with my animals? I’d prefer their company anyway…
BUT ending on a positive – I’m getting lots of writing project done and i LOVE it that Mystic continues to drop little bloggy bits onto this site… So informative and affirming. THANK YOU MYSTIC! xx
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Happy Bday Stress P! Ah look it’s your day, IMO, you can act like a spoiled brat and it would be completely merited, in fact why don’t you?
You can out-mood the Sagg sis in law, out-nonspeakers the Sagg Beau, out-bitch your Mum (and yes it is possible to out bitch a Scorp) – it will be like Survivor, Your Version, haha..
Trust me. Think of it as a social experiment and watch them suddenly melt in sympathy and concern. I come from a family of 6 kids and have had decades of watching siblings act up to get what they want. It’s not becoming, but on this occasion perhaps merited?
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Do a heap of writing just before you go to celebrate with the rellies… At least then you will have done something productive & might feel happier in the evening?
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Thanks for your words & wisdom this year mystic. Word to the mother ship.
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Very convincing Kali impersonation has been successfully kept in check today by watching The Sound of Music. “The hills are alive…..!”
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Oh that’s hilarious! But go Kali I say! Anyway, Julie Andrews’ character wasn’t exactly swimming with the cultural tide in that movie……”How do we solve a problem like Maria” but then again she wasn’t exactly decapitating people and donning their skulls as trophies either. Kali certainly knew how to accessorise!
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Look sorry but FUQ LILITH … who the hell is she when she’s at home?? Just a freakin rock that’s wot. I’d happily have a biff with Lilith and Pallas and Eros and that one that brought gluten intolerance and all the rest of ‘em …. they can all just EFF OFF cause I’ve got more than enuff to worry about. I’m still not on speaking terms with Pluto. Mercury my chart ruler has gone AWOL. Mars is being a gutless coward and I wanna kick his sad sorry little red arse from noon to sunshine. Saturn and I have only just come to tacit agreements about consumption of vegetables and the paying of bills – on time.
oops hang on … I think I just channelled Lilith.
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she says as everything was lain to waste around her… hahahaha
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*sniffs* quite
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but I have an EXCELLENT Yoville apartment.
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Sweetie you sure you not on speaking terms with Pluto? Coz I think you blew him back into Hell, haha…he may hire you to do his PR. Seriously, Yoville or real world.
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Yo!
Pluto bro.
I no be takin yo shit no mo!
Yo want me to define it?
Mess wid ma planetary alignment?
Well I be messin wid yo mojo
Ho!*scratches head* you think that scareded him?
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Honey, I think he heard your boots tapping down the hallway followed by that crackling whip and he got out of Dodge pronto… I mean, he really is only used to dealing with submissives, and you got hell AND leather AND tits AND a massive divine fuqing feminine primordial rage.
I think that whole bit of him sending Persephone back for 6 months was his way of saying he could only take it for half a year….
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*Applause*
people are going to totally kick 2010’s newbie little arse, huh?:)
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*stands in silent awe*…then *hoots and hollers*…because.
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well actually I’m wearing something that can’t work out whether it’s a kaftan or a shirt dress, with bare feet and 2 inches worth of greys in amongst the black hair that quite frankly IS looking Medusaesque … but by the stars am I channelling some sort of “massive divine fuqing feminine primordial rage” even if after biotch slapping Pluto back to Hell, I need a good tissue box soaking cry. SO EFFING WOT!
feels good.
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oh fuq – you are eclipsing – forget my question, maybe i’ll ask you another time. remember you are beautiful, articulate and witty, anything less and we wouldn’t love you. *hands over tissue box* xoxoxox
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reading that just make me want to give you a hug, make you a cocktail and place a giant choc tray infront of you. (ok, the tray would be giant…but i think at this stage i would have eaten half the goods)
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I just saw the DVD of Revolutionary Road; an absolutely chilling film, brilliant script and Sam Mendes is great at conveying a sense of dread, menace within the oppression of suburbia (as he did too in American Beauty). I find that Kate Winslet relies too much on technique and fails to inahbit her roles (I can see her “acting”) but Michael Shannon who played the “mentally ill” mathemetician (actually the soothsayer in the narrative) was excellent and I’ll be keeping a eye on his career.
But the point is, I thought that the film was very Pluto-esque in that it could be seen as a possible manifestation of the consequences of avoiding the transformation that Pluto demands. Or, having read MM’s latest post, perhaps seeing it in terms of Pluto is too narrow as other planetary transits/progressions also evoke change.
Revolutionary Road is a chilling reminder of how dominant Western culture suppresses the cycles of life. Astrology, thank god(dess) invites us to embrace them. Gawd the characters in the film could have used some wise astrological counsel, I thought.
Sorry, this reads like a dry review and inappropariately contrasts with the conversational tone of all your insightful blogs. Forgive me. Disregard my tone, if it helps,but my point is sincere.
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Great review! I love Kate Winslet. I so wanted them to go to Paris.
Yes I agree you have to surrender to pluto’s urges sometimes or you will die anyway (or slowly wither away in an unlived life – which our society is keen to encourage as long as you consume/work with a smile.)
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Yes, like the running line in Anton Chekhov’s play “The Three Sisters”: “When are we going to Moscow?”, that constant yearning for another place against a backdrop of selfishness, the inertia that comes from lack of awareness, preoccupation with the banal at the expense of the bigger picture.
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I’m not familiar with The Three Sisters but your synopsis sounds like it could be seamlessly transferred to modern life.
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I think Woody Allen’s work is Chekhov-esque. The closest contemporary seamless transfer, I think, of of Chekhov’s aesthetic and content. I mean Allen’s FILMS not his personal life!
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I freaking loved that movie- very chilling, as you say- and it was the big wake up call I needed to see how I had internalized ideas of marriage ( yea me! Supposed feminist chick), and how my husband and I were falling into patterns that were old, older than us. It shook me up so much that I started being very real about when I felt like the Kate winsley character and when I felt like the Leonardo character. I could just see it played out, that dynamic, in everything. Needless to say, I avoided the tragedy by deciding to get a divorce. But what a powerful film it was to get me to start unravelling my expectations if married life…. ( not saying I got divorced because of a movie tho! Never fear!)
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WAAHHHHOOOOO Kudos to you for realising and acting – it freaks me out how so many people change into old people when they get married – they change the way they dress and kind of fade. It’s weird and I don’t get it. It’s like they merge and lose themselves and give up and a little part of them dies – a good part. No sir, I don’t like it. I haven’t seen the film but I’m going to now. It sounds thought provoking.
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Yeah you should, it’s fab. Btw I didn’t mean old as in age, I meant old like outdated- like from the 50s! I realized I had both the freedom loving woman AND an internalized inner housewife fighting it out in my head. Freaky.
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AAAAH I getcha – I did that right at the beginning it was pretty strange cos I am so not a housewife I got all obsessed with some weird domestic diversions – aqua came home one day and said ok who the hell are you and where’d you put the one I love cos this one’s a freak. And he was right it was some weird innate housewife thing. So that was the end of that. I went back to my old self. He did a weird thing too – he got all man of the house has to bring home the bacon and look after the little woman and got all workaholicky but I called him on it and he saw it for what it was and let it go. It’s strange tho isn’t it – wonder where it comes from. I reckon the next phase is the fading that happens to people. It’s sad that love goes that way.
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Saggi I’m reading a lot of feminist writing at the moment and your talk of the stereotype of the housewife is poignant. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with being a housewife if that’s what you’re into and you’re doing it because you want to not because it’s expected or considered the norm but the fact women AND men fall into that stereotypical groove once wed or cohabiting – altho the wed seems to be the almighty clincher – does make me wonder if it’s nature not nurture. A primal response to finding a mate.
Maybe it’s the accoutrement of domesticity that turn us into stereotypes? We wed the labour saving machines and domestic rituals and that combined with the inhabiting of another machine, that of employment outside the home and its associated rituals that turns people into domestic machines or “stereotypes” as a result of needing to synchronise with the external mechanism.
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O GOD I just realised that’s a minefield what I just wrote – I’m not saying that I think the primal impulse is to be a stereotypical 50s housewife just that nesting seems like a logical progression when considering the fact we are descended from animals and I’m pretty sure they mate for life – therefore it would make sense that domestic response.
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hi whatever,
i did a whole degree in the stuff! and i really thought i was above it. but i think we internalise roles without even realising, even if our mind tells us something else. i dont think its nature (v nurture) which i think in lots of ways is an outdated debate anyway, esp since theyve discovered so much about neuroplasticity etc, but i do think that despite the best efforts of feminist mothers, and for that matter feminist fathers, and good teachers, and excellent role models for equal partnership etc etc etc, there is still, in *some* people an internalised stereotypical role they act out. was that way for me, and i just thought ‘who t f is this??’ but i needed to go through that to find out who I was, not just ‘feminist me’, -another role- but truly what i wanted to be in monogamous relationship with a man, legally sanctioned. – usually called marriage, lol.
anyway it was quite a journey for me, and i havent sworn off marriage or anything, but i think you need to be super concious to be involved in one, just like any relationship i spose.
im a bit emo re my divorce right now, so this is all very present for me.
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O soz if I’ve skated onto thin emo ice – I’ve seen a lot of divorce via my various parental role models & I know it’s hideous even if you were the one who chose it – you’ve got balls – so no harm was intended if I’ve said anything hurtful with my intellectual feminism training wheels on an all lol I’m a novice & I might be saying stupid things without knowing it. It does my head in the feminism – the intellectualising – cos I’m good at that the thinking but I don’t necessarily agree with the theories – I’m able to discuss and see all sides have some validity (go libra fleur with gem rising – the lilith conjunct asc gives it a nudge) but at grass roots level – which is what my friend the intellectual feminist tells me I am – I do think it’s more about evolution of the soul and that the qualities of masculinity and femininity aren’t necessarily gender specific. Is that some theory I can go and read about? I have these thoughts but don’t know what they’re called.
marriage is hard work – sometimes I think o fuck this is boring having to go through this lesson cos I’ve got a co pilot who didn’t learn it yet but it’s a reciprocal agreement so he probably thinks the same about me – it’s not that stupid fairy tale prince charming and cinderella thing is it? and sometimes it just doesn’t work as peeps change and evolve. It’s hard yakka. I hope your new year brings some of the things you wish for in your life Saggi xxx
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LOL inappropriate contrast warms the cockles of my heart. Hilarious. You’re the one I find in weird corners at parties, we exchange knowing looks and the talk don’t stop till sun up. I like the cut of your discourse pilgrim.
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Aw shucks whatever!
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I guess I knew december would be intense
but really that Sag new moon and then solsticeI mean it’sjust so ridiculous over the top and I’m just pissed off
I can never get any warning decent enough off these sites
I mean its a major suck in my opinion sheeit
u haveno idea and udontknow what yor talking about not calling December
sheeit Thats just ridiculous insane… sago moon going off then solstice
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Wills,
Been nippin’ in the smog-nogg?
Smog-Nogg…you know, tainted/spiked/polluted L.A.~esk~ egg nogg my dairy workin’ relatives used to make…..
Gave my bro some “Jim Beam” bbq sauce. Going to his place this NY for drunkin’ barbie….(psyche!
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Nice – that was a false alarm you slinking off all minxy – thought you were a candidate for the woman taken by the eclipse for a while there sweetie.
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Well, will be gulped down by it for awhile but will lurk and giggle I’m sure. Just won’t have time to write/read as much as writing needs to go elsewhere and yes, sounds terribly lonely and will take every ounce of everything I’ve ever had minus all my bad habits which have been a huge distraction but which I’ve loved..
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o yeah that’s what the kia kaha message was about bigW i figured you’d have an interesting time of it. Mines been low key – I forgo the extended family get together on the grounds of pagan beliefs and receive notes from my 2 agents on the ground. Family secrets emerged. Skeletons all fell out of the closet over lunch. Revelatory.
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I am literally afraid to be alone with my Cancer Sun, Taurus rising, Pisces Moon husband during this full moon/eclipse. I think planetary configurations, both recent and upcoming, have made him become mentally and emotionally unhinged.
Does anyone have any advice for me ?
And when will things begin to settle down?
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I’m sorry to hear that esp. in light of the news lately and violence in the world. If you are truly afraid I would remove myself from his presence regardless of any astrology.
Good luck, SP
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wgs,
When married, I pushed and pushed my ex Cancerian Sun, Virgo Moon sign husband too far one day and he snapped and held a hammer up that he had been holding and threatened me. I was holding my toddler at the time and he did not hit nor did he ever, but any human being has their limits.
I had to look at my participation in that and the provocation. The hammer was not premeditated but just that he had been working on the house in that instance.
As an Aries, I had to look at my bitchieness and how I pushed his ultra patient nature (Virgo Moon) so far as to hold a hammer up to smash me.
I was not proud.
A Cancer Sun, Taurus Asc and Pisces Moon sounds like perhaps he has taken alot in and not let anything out?
Just a suggestion love. I had a Pisces Moon girlfriend and she was a counsler who in her despair when wrought said, “I give and give and give”..
We all have our limits. There are two sides to every story. Protect yourself but own what’s yours is all I’m saying. Takes courage and honesty.
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wow sweatpea, I’m a crab with Virgo moon, I do snap…especially I live only with Leo nanna. Not physically, but definately verbal diahoriah and slamming doors. I’m professional door slammer, need to be left alone when loosing it.
I think giving each other space is deffinately prt ofthe solution… and yeah admitting your contriution.
I hope new year brings you love and joy.
MWA’s
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This eclipse is on the Chiro Doc I work with Sun @ 8 Cancer.
We were just talkin’ today. He said he’s “this far”…~replicates an inch with fingers~ from losin’ it….
He might have been kidding but perhaps not? He hates confrontation but then of course we know where that can lead one if pent up emo’s for too long.
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Wgs, I’m with Sweetpea. You shouldn’t feel afraid. Protect yourself.
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yup me too – if you think you’re in danger get out of the situation asap – the space may give the person room to think about what they may have done if you hadn’t. Violence isn’t just a physical thing the fact you feel scared is a kind of violence in itself. Can you go find somewhere else to be until you’ve worked it out? xxx
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recapitualation of May with jupiter neptune conjunct
I mean do you have any idea what MAy was?
What is wrong with…. oh forget it, just forget it man, jesus…
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Love and laughs for 2010 be open to change and growth, forgiveness for self and other perpetraitors [spelling deliberate], continued evolution no matter the cost and remember to breath as one leaps into the unknown and is awed by the amazing beauty of the universe and the privilege of experience and awareness.
Thank you all for your wisdom and insight and may it continue as it enriches us all. Thank you Mystic and Happy New Year one and all and don’t forget to raise a glass to Auld Lang Syne! -
Thanks whatever and shell for the well wishes over on the Saturnalia thread. Yes, need to tweak my time tables and energy outflow this coming year. I HAVE been reading ya’ll though and amusing as ever.
~Sun Sagg/natal Saturn conj moon in Cap said~:
I just saw the DVD of Revolutionary Road; an absolutely chilling film, brilliant script and Sam Mendes is great at conveying a sense of dread, menace within the oppression of suburbia…
But the point is, I thought that the film was very Pluto-esque in that it could be seen as a possible manifestation of the consequences of avoiding the transformation…
Revolutionary Road is a chilling reminder of how dominant Western culture suppresses the cycles of life”
Haven’t seen the movie but good points I thought and some of the precise reasons I didn’t stay married at 34.
This 10 degree Cancer/Cap eclipse is square my Aries Medusa 10 (and other Aries planets as mentioned on the Trine Thread)….
But no time like the present to get that energy going and right on the new year just emphasizes it more so.
Great comments (“consume/work with a smile”…~libra tiger~)
Prowlin’ am devastated we’re no longer married
And White Musk, lovely, inspiring post!
Happy New Year all! xo SP
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p.s., been listening to “Fireflies” by Owl City…Such a fun and uplifting song!
“Everything is never as it seems”..
No shit….lol (had to throw a cuss in there for Auld Lang Zine….(er, Syne….)
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well Sweetiepie … am I allowed to be a bigamist? I doubt an Aries and and Scorp would allow such things!
Happy New Year and hope 10 is a good ‘un for you!
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I am soo glad to hear you guys venting like this- it makes me feel better.
I am sympathising with you P-cat. I feel eeverything that you at feeling , but am to miserable to put it into words….
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it will pass … I feel like Tigger from Winney the Pooh. Bounce Bounce Bounce. Well at least for today!
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Blackstar – hugs.
sometimes it really helps to make the effort to put it into words – even if you delete it later or don’t post it … or write it longhand (some people say burn it later) ‘cos you surprise yourself with your own insights.
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“Keep a vast artists pad close at hand to scribble stream-of-consciousness findings and your major aha moments”
AHA I’m going to spend my NYE with a bunch of artists on the water. Shall we draw then????
HAPPY NEW YEAR everyone!!!!
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Thanks Mystic & Happy New Year!!!
Are Scorps slightly more immune due to being emo most of the time anyway? Am feeling pretty good actually. Am laying low and doing the finishing off unfinished projects, clearing out stuff etc etc. Getting a haircut tomorrow – is this safe? Will I emerge with a pink quiff? New hairdresser too. Will have to say to hairdresser: look into my eyes, do NOT cut much off. Else no TIP. lol.
Beginning to wonder if Cap Boy is worth the trouble. No word from him. Just because he’s in another country with the rellies is no excuse. Sigh. Back tomorrow. If he does not show up on NYE he may find himself excommunicated.
…. maybe.
Happy celebrations all, have a fab time anyway. xxx
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Tati, I’m sorry to hear about Cap Boy. What a bore! I think that’s rude that he hasn’t kept in touch. ‘Communication technology, hello! Fingers crossed for you for NYE.
Your prescriptive script for the hairdresser is hilaire!
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My close friend has a similar dillema to you Tati. I hope it works out for you. It has been such a crazy year, and nothing is permanenet.
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Thanks guys … Being able to post here helps stop me messaging him – damn Scorpio obsessiveness. However also v stubborn & not contacting him. Suspect we are both scared of contacting the other, or am I being charitable?
Dreamed about him dammit. As if it isn’t bad enough thinking all the time … My dreams should be filled with pliant satyrs and co-operative über-buffed types. Never are though.Now I can’t get back to sleep. Not helped by having a blood test in the morning so can’t eat or have coffee – I’m ravenous. Think I may devour the nurse if my attention slips. That might be considered somewhat impolite and not helpful for the other patients though.
Hmm maybe I should take myself out for breakfast afterwards? Oooh.
Am going to transfer my diary – proper eclipse-y sorting out unfinished business activity – will prob fall asleep halfway thru and find dried droolmarks on the page when I wake.
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Go the breakfast tati, nurture yourself!
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good advice, I did & felt much better, sated. Diary all sorted. House nearly purged of extraneous stuff. Things getting much more manageable. Went to the library & got loads of books on sex/relationships so after the next 2 days of frantic decluttering/party-preparing/partying I can have a proper Scorp slob-out on New Year’s Day and read all my books.
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ok, i’m taking a new tack….instead of happy new year i’m going with the “goodbye 2009″ angle….purge purge purge…..
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Yes, suitable for an eclipse….
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MM Happy New Year and thank you for your wonderful site and its associated humour, counsel and brilliant aesthetics. You enrich my days!
And please fellow bloggers, please accept my sincere thanks for all your generosity and wsidom. I am genuinely touched by your kind words. I read EVERYTHING and I have learnt so much. I have read our challenges but I think with knowledge of the planetary cycles we are armed well. Truly. No need to doubt the power of awareness. I am sincere when I say that I think this is a special community and please accept my best wishes for the New Year. Many thanks.
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“If you want to get really astro-fiend/cosmic about this, apart from the general catharthis it’s like a confrontation between the patriarchy and the feminine divine…”
Like I said, eclipse squares my Medusa/Sun/Point of Fortune/SN…..Reason why after the first, MUST focus on Her and why yes, the Sun ~can~ shine out her ass at this time in history..
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I’m off to the gym to punch things hard…and then punch them some more.
I am also going to see what wit and wisdom my young PT may possess to help me understand a situation regarding Sagg daughter’s Sagg bf. We spend a fair amount of time together as a family. He’s for the most part a good natured, sweet kind hearted soul…until he experiences disappointment of any degree and he pouts…and he’s doing it more, and over sillier things…like at dinner last night Aqua daughter drops into convo a stupid situation that happened in the past…a year or so ago about something to do with Sagg daughter’s taurean bf…. if anything from how stupid this was it has given her a benchmark of what she does not want to bring to this relationship….and then boom, Sagg bf took this thing that happened way before they were dating like someone had stabbed him in the HEART with something nasty, and then went off to have a smoke and brooded…and then brooded some more…and then when he woke up this morning was still broody because my Sagg daughter wouldn’t apologise for him being ridiculous.
This definetely becomes my business when he stays over at my house and flips from pleasant house guest into the broodmonster. They’re coming up for freaking NY eve. I’m starting to see all this brooding as so much manipulation…although it could be that he hasn’t finished growing yet… but fuq it’s annoying. He’s reminding me of my Leo ex, this inability to handle disappointment. I’m trying to detach THAT from THIS, but there are echoes damnit.
Punch punch punch.
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Irritating, cos you can’t throw him out without upsetting daughter.
Didn’t know saggs brooded like that. Other chart influences?
Perhaps best to suggest to daughter to downplay prev relationships … Sounds like he’s young & hasn’t got over the jealousy of anyone else who touched her ever. I remember that phase, it lasted about 20 years. Perhaps spike his smokes with something smokeable to help him *ahem* relax, dammit.Failing that, send him to Siberia with all the other men. Encourage daughter to get a new, all-consuming interest (playing soccer, organising local theatre group, running for student president, competitive macramè) so that she is busy & unavailable & maybe he will come to his senses (or she will).
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I would say check his Moon to understand what his emo needs are and what aspects the Moon makes, etc.
Check the Nodes as besides other things like past lives and future, is a maternal influence indicator, and the fourth and tenth houses for parental influences/childhood.
Is Saturn Retro as can signify issues with an absent father or a father who was there but simply not available.
He may have issues with a fear of abandonment or could be a case of a controlling personality which I would look for Pluto influences to his personal planets.
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LL darling, punch away. I have a Sagg Boss, and every Monday morning he comes into work with a bad mood, it’s clockwork. That mood lifts roundabout Tuesday afternoon, unless something stupid like an office mishap occurs, then it dips back down. ANYTHING seems to affect his mood, having said that he was raised with only one brother, was the apple of everyone’s eye and cannot seem to get it that being happy IS A CHOICE.
I know he likes the attention of being fretted over, of commiserating about his “lot” etc. You can’t talk them out of it. The only solution is activity. IGNORE the pouting and play ball, or something sportif, the endorphins should naturally kick in.
All that mess of jealousy and being sensitive he’ll have to work on his own and with your Sagg child, but as a short cut, rely on the great outdoors. Talking does not work, as they just get more broody. You just have to FORCE them to do stuff. In the 10 years I have worked for this man, I have got him to regularly get spa treatments, book more regular holidays, try new restaurants, have more parties, taken him dancing, etc. – once he feels like he’s in the spotlight once more (which I think I read somewhere Sagg men secretly desire – don’t think the Sagg women actually care) he will calm the eff down and start enjoying himself.
Failing that, get him drunk. That works too.
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Oh and incidentally, my other boss is a Leo and she is VERY good at supporting him though gets quite disturbed by his moods like you. With my Cancer sun, I just tutt tutt and start booking him for things.
He complains but he goes and does it. Then he thanks me after.
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After my session at the gym on my way home with all those snazzy little endorphins kicking in I thought run…I have to encourage him to go for a run when he gets all broody…and or anything active….and yes it’s very much a default attention getting device…or at least I suspect it is. I strongly suspect a golden child past…and I do know his existence at the moment is all out of whack with parental marital strife and all that goes with that…so I think he’s missing that level of attention from his parents as they’re full emerged in their own merde.
Also Sagg daughter and I do try to get the message that happiness is a choice through…I think exercise will really help. He just funnels any words into his pit…sort of shores up the walls of his moody mood with them…so yeah talking is not all that effective.
Also yeah the Sagg daughter can more than handle and jealousy issues…its just the bleed over of emotions that I’m starting to get a little sick of. Oh and he’s sort of fun with wine, but by the end of the evening lately they’ve been competing about anything…and that too is a little wearing.
Ohhh Ohhh guess what?
I found out today that my PT is a CAP. It makes so much sense…and has huge benefits for me, as I can’t get away with shit..eva.
Speaking of young men and booze though he injured his back last week trying some extreme breakdancing move after being sans booze for weeks and then breaking his own self imposed drought. Is quietly furious with himself…but not bleeding emotion every freaking where.
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You mean you have to CHALLENGE him to a run, yep, them Sagg men hate being told what to do, but you have to egg him on to it. Nothing worse than someone meant to be of Jove mooning about, I mean at least we can say us Cancers do moods with aplomb (or I think we do).
I do tend to think that Sagg Men (soz Matty Minerva, no offense meant) are a bit more precious than Sagg women, part of it is an immense drive and a dual natured energy which needs to be intellectually AND physically channeled. Think Chiron, he was a philosopher, healer, teacher, star scribe but he also lived in the woods running around shirtless. I think the investing their energy in education and physical pursuits is how they deal with emotions.
I have never had a conversation about emotions with a Sagg man where they were convinced the discussion would have a resolution or a result. They can be the ultimate jock and you have to bond with them over a sport to get through to them.
Of course your Cappo PT isn’t bleeding emotion everywhere, Cappos understand action = consequence more than anything else, and Dad is Father Time, so he knows what he did was stupid and he justly deserved the result. Ergo he would consider it “unmanly” to even whine about it.
Try that with a Gemini.. haha
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We talked charts early in the piece. He has a fair amount of interest in astro…and I remember there being plenty of Scorp in his chart (most people I find it easy to get on with have a certain amount of Scorp going on though…scorpiness is the common demonator between my daughter’s and I…cannot remember his moon though. Maybe cancer, maybe Scorp?
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BTW that was in reference to both Tati and Sweetpea….and yes I think somewhere there is def a fear of abandonment….but I can also see where that leads to attracting what we most fear…’cos he is pushing it…
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Ya know whatever this is going to sound ott leo, and arrogant, but …I think I have a grip of my Scorp moon…as in I can be around polite company whilst in the embrace of the dark side…which is where I think age/experience might well come into it.I’m pretty much ready to let lillith go uranian all over him.
However I am trying to work out ways that I don’t mess with my daughter’s ability to negotiate her relationship…BUT and this is the big scary but, also not put up with someone coming into my home and polluting it with their emotional merde over and over…once twice, maybe even thrice..ok…but I am well over being the supportive silent 3ply. Oh and you’ve called it whatever, I totally get that he’s comfortable…I’m working on creating a sustainable kind but fair boundary…it’s either that or get a whistle and just blast it at him a few times till he realises that means sprint damn it. Faster harder…etc.
Also no he’s not a cusper is pretty much dab in the midst of saggland only 3 days away from my Sagg daughter’s b’day.
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O god for a minute I thought you read my words as a critique of you – crikey I thought it was all on LOL For the record I have a stellium in scorp and my moons one of em. Sounds like a shape up or ship out moment is inevitable.
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Nah…lol. If you wanted to have a go I’d manage ok anyways. I’m calming down a bit now…feel like I’ve workshopped it getting some ideas from you all. Thanks guys.
About time to take myself off for a goats milk bath. Some powdery goodness I got from the girls at Chrissie.
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@ whatever “It’s bad form to seep in someone else’s home” LOL that made me laugh, and it’s so true, at the same time.
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Apart from my fire Sun, Asc, Moon – the rest of my chart is water – mainly Cancer… Boo hooing today over silly family issues with Cancer sis, bleurrgghhhh.
Anyway, went to ante natal check up at the hospital to discover baby is full breech. Doc tut tutted and slapped him and I meditated while being hooked up to a heart thingy and asked baby to please turn.
After half an hour the doc says come in, let’s do it and does an ultra-sound – “He’s turned!!!” he says excitedly. Well I asked him too, he poo poos this and says it is due to the quick wrestle earlier. Whatever.
The nurse tells me all the babies are coming in breech in the last few weeks!!
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Good work Firetrine. Sheez I feel for you in this humidity.
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I’m so not into babies but I’m starting to feel excited for you and your impending birth Firetrine – doctors have to believe they’re omnipotent it’s part of the deal with their buying into the allopathic paradigm but you & the baby did that together don’t doubt it for a minute.
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Hi FireTrine, do you know that you don’t have an obligation legally, morally or otherwise to get your bubba vaccinated? I was blessed to have a bunch of well-informed friends & friends of friends clearly deliver the message ” Don’t vaccinate!” Check out homoepathy, if you haven’t already- safe, pain-free & as equally effective as the toxin-laden allopathic alternative. I have heard too many stories that would break your heart, all because the alternative information & facts are not currently advocated in the mainstream medical system….
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haha! Excellent Fire Trine … just ignore doctors they are mostly ignorant and continue to treat pregnancy and birth as if it’s some sort of “disease” they must cure!
My daughter turned when I asked her to as well … ok I took her to a live band with a thumping cool live double bass in amongst the breezy jazz. So there I was the size of a freakin barn, asking for my first pint of Guiness after no alcohol for 9 months and I felt this … well how do you describe it? Freaky shifting in the inner realms. Then she got so into the music she decided to dance which meant headbutting my pelvis … so I was sorta bouncing looking vaguely bemused whilst Toro daddy-to-be kept clutching my chair looking nervous.
Blessings to you for your new Cappy girl Fire Trine!
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ps. re what starstrokes said about vaccination. Use your own intuition and don’t be bullied NO MATTER WHAT.
And don’t forget to take Arnica prebirth …. a few drops three times a day from now on.
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go baby firetrine !
its my birthday on 1 jan but according to astrodienst my natal birthday is 31st so the lunar eclipse is on ny natal birthday in my ninth house …. woo hoo ! thats all i can figure out as not up for the techno detailery.
got an interesting email yesterday from a spiritual guy who says that while people are ok with giving maybe they are not so cool with receiving and that its ok to ask for a miracle. so for everyone who reads this – this is my gift to you all – find a quiet place and after being quietlly restful for a while say – i want to receive a miracle. i did today ! i got one ! so why not have a go
happy new year everyone !
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Thank you all!! I am getting excited about the baby coming too; almost looking forward to the ‘de-cluttering’. Actually baby’s turned fully up and down two or three times today and now I am truly exhausted – can’t work out what’s going on there…
Yay MM, thanks for the good wishes!! And so good to hear that others have had success turning their babies at the last, it might be an ongoing thing till the birth it seems in this case.
Thanks for the tips. Will find out about the Arnica prowln, funny story too!
I did vaccinate No. 1 baby though I always followed up immediately with his paediatric chiro (who despaired of me a bit, he is totally in love with No. 1). Meditated on it and I felt he could handle it and he did, plus hubby is trad on this point.
However, this baby feels different to me and I am considering I may avoid vacc’s for this one, I don’t know why. (Maybe it is to do with that star child dream, I am vibing an uber sensitive type who may not respond well).Oddly enough, my amazing chiro healer and his wife are also about to have a baby – our kids will share this funny astro wierding currently!
Oh and I mean to write the nurse said all the babies in the last few DAYS (not weeks) are coming in breech. She also said everything had been quiet in the last weeks and then yesterday it all went beserk in the maternity ward, not enough doctors even to attend. Lots of little souls wanting that harmonious Taurean Moon?
Bubble bring on those miracles I say!
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“Retro-Mars rising can inspire twits into lower level assertiveness” hmmm prophetic Mystic – I got dumped over the phone yesterday, now that’s what I call lower lever assertiveness
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heee heee eclipse in action and effing Saturn in Libra – lessons abound eh? It ended up being over the phone cos he wouldn’t come over to see me after sending a ‘we need to talk’ text, and I declined his kind offer to meet in a coffee shop!!!!
Thanks Scorpalicious you made me smile. Twit indeed, I’m more inclined to exchange the ‘i” for an “a”
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Spent pre eclipse day gem moon hanging + chats/ merde re lost time with Leo sun cancer mars/asc Father sorting out 8th House BS *ping*
Managed to save my stuff from burning to cinders re premonition fire dream bushfire -sad and spooky. Merc retro revise artworks and family 4th house stuffs going back to party on harbour with ex and new fiscal plan ala 2010.
Kataka boy OS email bang on pluto venus click.
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So just your average day huh? Sheez Ms pack some stuff in. Congrats on seeing the message in your dream. Yes sad, yes spooky, yet you survived.Thankfully.
Does your Dad have problems receiving gifts graciously? I say this because I’m wondering if there is some link between their emotional and sometimes physical absence and the free givingness in others.
Aqua daughter again mentioned when she gave her Leo Sun dad a chrissie gift that instead of saying thankyou, he focussed on how much money he thought she had spent. She spent what she normally would feel comfortable in spending, and tried to match the gift to things that would bring him pleasure, like a lunch with the second wife at Spirit House at Yandina…so the switch to funding feels like another way she’s feeling rejected in small ways, and just feeds the general unconnecteness she feels.
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That’s the problem with gift giving – it’s not always free. Sometimes there’s strings attached. For instance, the Low Libran Spawn of the devil Pandora jewellery wearing woman I worked with who got me a “little present” when she returned from her holiday. She was clearly sucking up and I wanted nothing from her. She got me a ginger chocolate bar which went straight in the bin. The next day she asked if I liked it and I said “it was nice, thank you”. Well that wasn’t the response she wanted. “Nice?!!!… do you know the trouble I went to to get that!!!!” WTF! Was she expecting me to get down on my knees and lick her stupid sensible daggy shoes in gratitude. My affections cannot be bought after being treated with disrespect. Gee, it suddenly occured to me how boundaries were a huge issue in 2009 and I’m grateful for the lessons.
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LOL lick her stupid sensible daggy shoes
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Stuff rescued, farm ok… just. smoke damage but no trees no orchard. Other peeps not so lucky. Sad. I am grateful for the heads up.
Oh I so get that! but my hilarious Leo father is fine with receiving yet totally obsessed with money/numbers. Got the senior citizen’s discount tour of new town complete with ‘posters of my face were here’ on retirement village promo. Had fab chats re 8th house crap.
Cancer lunar 8th house could not be more apt though with inheritance angst, agro mars retro peeps on warpath and merc retro new info to light -mis communiq happenings, now a fire. Thinking Champers low key style this eve flying back in to digest all this might be best.
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Hope you are ok Ms. Love and light sent your way xxx
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thank you, we are fine its the town that needs the love now.
Thanks too LL. x
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LOve this site. Thanks scorpylizzy, I put it in faves….xo
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Well, I feel surrounded by saggies, and all of them are brooders. My eldest (aqua asc) and youngest (scorp rising) grownup sons, their dad (my Leo ex, 24 years of it I had) who had saggie rising (horrendous pass-agg broodfreak) and my partner (a tomboy anyway). The youngest doesn’t really do it anymore (btw just turned 18) but the others seep their heavy shite everywhere when unhappy. I’m a scorp with sagg rising, and i like to let everyone know what the problem is lol, but am anti-brood. I hate it. I like peeps to spill it so we can sort it. Brooding is a way of manipulating others. It’s selfish and pointless and hostile. I have wrinkles and grey hairs because of the guilt-tripping sulking manipulative BS of my beloved saggies. Bless em.
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im so appreciating the saggi insights. Seriously! not being sarcastic. because as you all know, i have – well up until *NOW*- loved my saggi men, who could pretty much do no wrong. like i said, until now. they are completely giving me the shites, and i know i have to look at what they are mirroring ine me, blah blah, yes am doing that
But i have never really gotten how weird they can actually be about relationships. ive always enjoyed them, yakked away, travelled etc. but they are fuqing oddballs. and the forced cheerful glibness when they are quite obviously losing the plot. cant just talk about it, no everything is ‘UP!’ “All Good!’ when they are distancing themselves and seething, and everyone can see it. this may be the infamous eclipse circuit breaker mystic was talking about- i have finally finally seen the light about the lonnnnnng list of saggi men i have loved and lost/ended it with, through seemingly ‘inexplicable’ reasons.
‘but we’re soul mates…!’ Yeah, right.i am feeling tres pragmatic and very very strong with this Cancer moon. if the Feminine is vs the Patriarchy, in the psyche at least, the Feminine is KICKING SOME SERIOUS ARSE. in a really positive, white light, illumination kinda way. of course
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Hey Saggigal,
I have had same experience with sagg men,…so sexy and charismatic and handsome, but so odd.
Having trouble letting the most recent go but I KNOW I should. x
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BTW, love the pear bottom pix….So pattable Mystic…x Reminds me of my precious Cancerian daughter….which is appropriate I guess for this eclipse!!
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hey happy NY Sweetness – wish you all the luck in the universe and maybe a few miracles too with the book writing xxxx
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