This pic, seriously, is like me looking at my e-mail just now. Mercury AND Mars Retro is so infuriatingly bats ALREADY that I am back here even though technically not blogging again till Jan 4.
Okay, I am INSANELY into positive Retro spin. I have been musing upon a hokie little How-Mercury-Retr0-in-Cap-Helps-You-Process-the-Past-and-get-your-personal-history-reframed…And I was born with Mars Retrograde so it can’t be that bad…Mars and Mercury Retro great planning times, excellent for major eureka flashes re your past & soulmining for the benefit of fab future creativity…
But you know what guys? It is STILL Mercury Retro and it can still screw up perfectly functioning e-mail systems so they – in this case – throw up thousands of previously deleted e-mails…as if they were new & unread again…Is there a cosmic message here? Am i supposed to be pouring over the fake rolex offers for celestial significance??? One counts one’s blessings but it’s weird…non? And on the first day of Mercury Retrograde…
So hang on to thy sanity – i reckon it’s gonna be a BIG Full Moon Eclipse & please-please-please I know it is the post-Saturnalia sales and all but it is NOT the time to buy big items or make massive decisions or initiate lawsuits. You can process weird news re your exes or similar without shifting continents, becoming a breatharian or buying a pet marmalute. I am slightly biassed against the latter right now as one tore my front gate off its hinges. Mars Retro also his weirdings, you understand.
Tags: astrology blog, Capricorn, December 2009 astrology, Leo, Mars Retrograde, Mars Saturn Mercury, Mercury Retrograde
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Does anyone have any tips or recommendations for travel during Merc Retrograde? It’s the time of year when I have to take my holidays… no choice but to travel during this time! I’m flying to Fiji smack bang in the middle of it!
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Me too, also to Fiji for work. Maybe the trick is to accept that M Rx has the power it does to alter the best paid plans so accept what comes with a view to the bigger picture.
Which we’ll all see later, right?
*sigh*
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Well, I’m glad you’re back. I’ve missed you so!
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i love you mystic medusa xx
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I’m becoming increasingly tempted to fake agoraphobia, turn off the ‘puter and phone until Mercury turns direct.
Yep, my past week has been *that* bad!
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do you mean malamute mystic?
we have one here, so needy. sorry to hear about your gate
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I mean u r just such a total freek I swair..
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I know you are not “really” back until next week but i am remarkably happy to see you again.Thank you
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Mars & Merc Retro have me confused. I thought Mars Retro was the withdrawal of men which HAS happened, with THE one guy I actually liked, but otherwise, the rest of them are agressing on! Puzzling.
Doll, honestly I echo the LS, happy to see you here. You right, I have been processing ye olde merde for like the nth time and hope by the New Year hits I have something nouveau to look forward to!
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I was born with Mars Retro too. Heaps of retros in fact. I have been happily in solo lockdown, but am about to go on hols til the 4th…will beware of bats!
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i absolutely Have to travel to Bendigo for eldest son’s wedding on th 16th of january,will th retro be passed by then? some ‘old biz’ issues seem to be resolving after crawling out from under th carpet-wasn’t too pleased at first but yes, th ‘reasons why’ are much clearer now and it feels better-OMG how easy it is to hold onto bad stuff w/o even knowing it!
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So good to see you Mystic. Sorry to hear about your gate.
I’ve been feeling a bit out of sorts and a tad melancholy, like an echo of the last eclipse. I know you warned us not to buy big items but i didn’t consider a small designer storage unit a big item.
Bought it today, took it home and decided it looks AWFUL with the rest of my furniture. And i had a look at the receipt and there are no exchanges or refunds allowed. I will NEVER buy from that store again!! What is wrong with exchanging? Why don’t they have a big sign in the store saying “chose wisely, no refunds or exchanges permitted” I probably wouldn’t have seen it anyway during a Merc Retro. Should have just stayed away from the shops.
Every time i look at the unit I just want to burst into tears for being such an idiot.I just want to go to sleep and wake up in 2010.
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Scorpy buyers remorse happens to us all at some stage, being an idiot is not a prerequisite…Maybe try selling it on ebay after merc retro?…or some other type of matching someone that really wants it/needs it to said not vibing with your home object?
Also there is a subclause in the Trade Practices Act that may fit for you.
“Under the Trade Practices Act, you may seek a refund if a statutory condition is breached. This means that you may be entitled a refund if the goods you purchased:
*are or become faulty through no fault of your own
*are not fit for a stated purpose or a purpose you made known to sales staff at the time of purchase do not match the description or sample shown to you…
*have defects that were not obvious or not shown to you before you purchased.”Did you mention to the sales staff that you were concerned in anyway about how well this storage unit would fit in your abode, in style or size at all?
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hehe, yes Nat, the item is already in an alternate location and i’m going to see how i feel about it over the next few days, otherwise eBay it is.
I’ve been going a bit nuts with the de-cluttering and Feng Shui- ing lately. Maybe it’s time to give it a rest but i want it all done before the new year.
I used to LOVE wood but all of a sudden i can’t bear to have it in my home. I feels so HEAVY! Just gave away the last of my wood furniture (a large bookshelf). I felt so much lighter after it disappeared.
I love giving stuff away for free (freecycle.org). Someone always desperately needs what i’m throwing out and i’m relieved to have it taken away.LL, it’s not the first time i’ve had buyers remorse, just painful this time around ’cause it wasn’t exactly cheap.
Thanks for the TPA tips but i don’t have a leg to stand on. The item is in perfect condition. I did actually mention to the sales staff last time i was there, that i was worried about how it would fit with the rest of my stuff and she mentioned a hiring service. Pfffft, i just ignored that comment as i thought it was an inconvenient option and she wouldn’t let me photograph it either which is really odd ’cause you can download the images on the internet.Oh well, i’ve learnt my lesson – always ask about the returns policy and don’t buy big items during Merc Retro!!!
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Scorpy you sound like you have it well in hand now…the first wave of retail grief has passed and you’re working with the possibilities. Money pit items suck.
I’ve noticed that when dealing with retail, or wholesale people…actually anyone selling you a goods or service that they give you cues to whether they are going to be a treasure or a complete arsehole in your first interaction with them….this works even before checking the fine print…which I did in likewise fine detail when I was fashion buying a couple of years ago.
I mention this because honest to goddess someone that is too freaking precious to let you take a picture of an item you wish to purchase…pfft. There are way too many people on this earth willing to do honest mutually generous trade…fuq the hard to get on with ones I say. Well actually not fuq them yourself, just as in fuq off hard to deal with person, begone, that sort of fuq.
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Oh, I hate that Scorpalicious but sometimes occurrences as such could bring in some classic Merc Retro happenstance down the road. Yah never know. Such as anticipated Ebay buyer turning out to be a Hot Man. In your House.
At this point, being philosophical about it aids in the attitude adjustment. Incidentally, if Ebay does not pan out, can you alter it via paint or something? Just a thought though you’re probably too tired to even consider it at the moment.
As for moi, I got backed into by a Rabbi today. No, that’s not a joke…as in I was in the parking lot and this Rabbi, etc. My poor little car aptly named Devil btw, ended up with a scraped bumper and side panel when his HUGE SUV took a bite out it. He was very nice about it and is the police chaplain for the local station.
I was meeting a GF for a late lunch and voila ran into him and his wife at the same restaurant. We said hi, chatted and shrugged. He said, maybe something good will come of this. I’m thinking a Hot Cop please? Soz for the one track mind.
So I consoled myself with some shoe shopping (any reason will do) came home then somehow bumped into the glass vase in the hallway I’ve had for YEARS, and the thing just shattered into pieces. Disconcerting to be in the midst of destruction this entire day.
So darling I feels your pain.
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HAHAHAHAHA… LL, you are so fuqing spot on! I did actually get cues – pretentious arsehole cues! My purchase was made on the third visit. Don’t know why i went back. I can’t stand attitude from shop assistants. They don’t OWN the shop or DESIGN the furniture. Nor should they judge my bank balance based on what i’m wearing.
Maybe i should write a letter to the company informing them that they’ve lost a customer for LIFE because of their stupid no exchange/refunds policy and that the shop assistants are a bunch of snobs.
FA, sorry to hear about your vase. Maybe when you shop for a new one, you bump into a Hot Cop?
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Yes, ’twas one of the few times I wish a Hot Cop appeared and I actually had some form of injury that would render me steamily deshabille. But alas no.
If you loathe the shop that much I say go to Yelp or some other retail review site and simply tell the truth about the experience. Peeps DO pay attention to that!
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Funny about the wood thing – I’ve just spent the last few days clearing thru my stuff & have resolved to get rid of all my furniture that isn’t wood (have a bunch of fake chipboard nasties). Already given away 3 pieces of furniture and the place looks way nicer and less cluttered.
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I may as well be shifting continents regarding the ex. Unfortunately it is the Federal magistrate’s court ordering me to move from one side of the country to the other with the kids during this period.
As for major decisions, and signing contracts, unfortunately these things have to be done by mid January. How do I do these things without risking blowback?
Is an appeal considered the same as initiating a lawsuit?? It is not completely new aggression, more a case of trying to find some sort of justice in our justice system.
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Agree with being confused about the repercussions of making big decisions at the moment. I’ve been forced into one too. Aries sister who suffers from a mental illness went completely ballistic on Christmas day, threatened to suicide, screaming, crying and threatening people. She punched me in the face when I tried to take my baby niece off her as she was trying to attack her husband (Merry Christmas!). I’ve had to make the decision that she can’t be someone who is part of my life right now. Very harsh, but this is third time I’ve been seriously assaulted by her when she’s had a breakdown. I support the rest of my family in their choice to continue to support her but I think that there’ll be repercussions in my choice to not support her. It’s weird but I just quickly checked the last few times I remember that her breakdowns were really severe and seems like they were during a Mercury retro.
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Oh, that’s awful taurusymbal. Good luck with setting up some boundaries there.
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I love malamutes – they have such wonderful natures, so close to the wolf breed. They are everywhere in Alaska, where I first encountered them. What a wonderful pet MM!
I don’t know whether I’m feeling the eclipse already or whether the following experience is symptomatic of my prog moon sq moon but an old Aquarian school friend, who I’ve re-united with after we lost touch, severley reprimanded me the other night for my using the “f” word in front of her children. She told me off like an authoritarian boss or school principal. I was so shocked; my stomach turned and I went cold. I think it was insensitive of me to swear in front of her kids but the way she spoke to me humiliated me. Why not just a quiet word instead of putting me down in front of her family?
I tried to get over it while I sat with her family watching a DVD – the movie had the “f” word in the script, interestingly and no comment was made.
My friend has changed a lot since school – is a devout Catholic now and very ambitious – her and her husband support each other in going up the corporate career ladder. She is a manager and seems to identify with those in power but talks critically about the professionals (teachers, doctors, for e.g.) who work with her children. It seems that no-one is good enough for her children.
She and I are so different. She seems to value my friendship – consistently contacts me but after the other night, I am now questioning it. Perhaps I’m being too sensitive? Eclipses are interesting, they are often about, for me, reforming something, letting go…
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^let her go, it’s very rude & insensitive to tell someone off like that – adult or child.
MM good to hear from you. Marmalutes are cute – not as cute as Ralph Fiennes, would like him on a leash anytime. Actually both have those creepy light blue eyes that weird me out …
Love the pic here, it’s fab.
I’m staying inside and resisting the sales, concentrating on eating, drinking, entertaining, and working. All good. Also doing a major tidy-up/purge of all my stuff. Will emerge phoenix-like in mid-Jan with a tidy house and streamlined wardrobe, all deadlines met and clients happy, etc. Cap Boy has gone to ground, no word – but I’m almost wishing he stays away until I get myself more sorted out….
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I’m laying low too tati, Just hanging with the kids praying for some work just chilln. My man has gone to Siberia also. Even after inviting him to a overnight stay in a truly beautiful location he txt back ‘ i will not be coming up” very Merc in Virgo aagh! I I went anyway and had a ab time , maybe Siberia is where all our men have gone. MM keeps saying they’ll be back. Just gotta be disciplined to be patient. But are they worth the wait?
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Yes had a very ab time eating lollies! i meant fab time.
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some of them need to stay there…
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LOL aquaphobe. too true indeed but some of them are a bit addictive to be around, or is that just because I’m an obsessive Scorp?
Hope they freeze some sense into them in Siberia. Am busy trying not to think about specific man (or men), just men in general.
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Thanks for your reply tati. It helps to get your perspective. All the best for the New Year.
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and you too – here’s to a much better 2010!!
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I’ve noticed Sun Sagg/natal Saturn conj moon in Cap that some Aquarians can get mighty righteous when it comes to swearing. Not all Aquarians as my Aqua daughter can let fly succintly and in a quite pithy fashion when the occasion warrants it. Some other Aquarians within my sphere react like you’ve thrown gobs of burning sulphur at their ears and sort of bring force that rigid rigid, ‘I am right’ stance they can do where swear words are ALWAYS hateful spiteful insults against nature et al…instead of sometimes just being a descriptive adjective, or maybe even a doing word.
It does sound like you are looking at what she says and what she does because the disparity was so clear. I mean really insulting a ‘claimed’ valued guest in her home because of a perceived insult? I would be wondering if this is a part of a larger pattern of rules for herself and a more rigid set for the rest of the world…and whether you are prepared to take the time to negotiate some balance.
I don’t think you’re being too sensitive, quite astute actually. Good luck.
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Thanks for your affirming insight Leonine Librarian. I had thought that a one-on-one chat over dinner is needed to see if balance is possible.
It’s intersting to see the self-righteous manifestation of Aquarius, supportive of the dominant culture when I had obviously wrongly assumed that Aquarians (I have Aquarious rising) were into social justice/power-to-the people/alternative paradigms. But then Aquarian idealism can be applied, I suppose, to any set of beliefs.
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we are often prone to being self righteous a*holes. seriously, we are.
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You are so honest and generous aquaphobe. Thank you.
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Hey long name lady seasons greeting to you. I figure it’s important to let the person know how it’s not working for you and if there’s no compromise or adapting to your needs then they have no place in the vista that is your life. The fact she makes contact a lot indicates she has a need to be met that maybe you’re not 100% aware of? She may not be aware of it either. Saturnine & Pluto issues and maybe a slice of lilith in there for good measure.
Yeah eclipses. I like to initiate change to coincide with them cos I figure the energy’s there to be used for something and I’d rather work with it. You’ve reminded me it’ll be a good day to call my recent friend rekindled after 20 years to see if her bitter angry control freaking tendances are enough to tip me over the edge and allow me to tie up the last loose ends of that distant epoch of my life. I suspect the last vestiges have no place in my now.
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Thanks whatever. Yes it’d be interesting to think about what I offer her.
Good luck with your control freak friend. Sometimes people come back into our lives for closure and not for another chapter! Not that I am saying that this is the case in your rekindled friendship but a reminder of the possibilities instead of a singular script!
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o no, you’re right the fat lady is singing.
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As she was so upfront with you, I think you need to tell her that she could have been more gracious with handling this issue. As in what skills of negotiation/discussion/attitude in handling differences does she want to pass onto her brats? Oops kids! Get this out of the way or you are going to brood this into the new year and fell blah.
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You’re right. It’s noy good to hang onto it. Mind you, these blogs are helping enormously!
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I am going through a similar thing- talking again with old friends who have changed so much I no longer recognize them. It’s shocking.
I had to question myself who changed more- me or them? Then it dawned on me the reasons we were friends in the first place are gone.
I’d let her go and just remember the good times.
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Thanks scorpion. Godd pre-eclipse advice. Happy New Year
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I meant Good but perhaps “Godd” was an apt Freudian typo!?
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When anyone tells me I am too sensitive I offer a gentle response that maybe they are insensitive.
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Good point little fish. I’ll remember that one. Thank you.
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nice one little fish. I’ll have to remember that one too.
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I was born with Mars retro… in Cancer… in my twelfth. How does Mars retro impact you, dear Mystic? Some say it makes it complicated to express anger. It is true that I get quiet when I get upset. I feel the emotions but nary a word will come out.
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I have: backed up all my computer files, paid bills required for the month, had necessary convo with tape measure Virgo neighbour person about why I told him to eff off (we are now restrained friends and I am on his son’s “call if can’t find father” school thingame), refrained from downloading porn, had nearly three alcohol free days in the past week and have bought nought but chocolate coated honeycomb and Angry Angus burgers. I think I ate mushrooms and tomatoes to appease Saturn.
The only McRetro Beef I have to date is that series one of Dexter doesn’t seem to want to play on my DVD. humfff
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Good job prowln!! I have: not yet backed up my computer files, backed away whimpering from my bills, not refrained from downloading (free) porn, managed one day of full-on work and several days of ruthless de-cluttering, as well as one day of edgily wasting time. Have successfully avoided vegetables and increased my chocolate intake. Alcohol: minimal (apart from that bottle of cava). Cigarettes: 3, and none yesterday, because I basically forgot to have them. Nicotine cravings are not working. Sigh – can’t get any addiction to work, save to completely unsuitable men.
Also: watched Ralph Fiennes DVD (“In Bruges”) but it was boring and depressing. Prefer it when he doesn’t phone in the performance and where the script wasn’t written by a semi-literate 10-year old.
Should I sacrifice some root vegetables to Saturn perhaps? Or would a small frankfurter suffice?
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tati if it wasn’t for the fact that you’re female, we should probably get married. Sorry Sweetpea ya got bumped
In Bruges sucked and I never could work out what the fuss was all about. I reckon you would’ve had to mainline a keg of Guiness to get a mild giggle out of it. One of Rafe the Rake’s worst performances. He’s far more suited to playing strangely romantically weird tortured suffering souls.
Frankfurters have red food colouring in them. Sorry but I doubt Saturn would approve. But then I have been smoking my brains out so by comparison a few “little boys” would hardly make much difference.
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I’d offer to help torture Rafe the Rake anytime.
Prowln if we can’t get married, can I at least borrow your boots occasionally?
Hmm red food colouring … that would explain the itchiness, or perhaps that really is nicotine cravings.
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you can HAVE my boots darling … I only wear them during Scorpio season. If you refresh cache you will find it’s just me looking up mournfully at the world like the FUQING PISSED OFF CRAB THAT I AM
*cough*
would you like a tossed sesame garlic honey prawn salad with that?
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I told him to eff off (we are now restrained friends and I am on his son’s “call if can’t find father” school thingame), refrained from downloading porn, had nearly three alcohol free days in the past week and have bought nought but chocolate coated honeycomb and Angry Angus burgers. I think I ate mushrooms and tomatoes to appease Saturn.
The only McRetro Beef I have to date is that series one of Dexter doesn’t seem to want to play on my DVD. humfff
– “welllllllll, isn’t that speciallll, ….
I just cant imagine who could be keeping your
dvd from playing…who could be keeping those bulbous knobs and
buttons from turning on the titillating videos could it be…. oh, I don’t know, perhaps …..SAY-TON!!!!!!!???? -nnn- nnn-nn
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In my book about the Moon nodes I write about Mercury retrograde in natal birth charts. If one has this position you did not want to be born. You had a reincarnation refusal. Those people live more with the angels aove than on earth. maybe you are interested in that.
http://www.booktopia.com.au/…northern-moon-node-the-message-from-the-beyond…/prod9789080715547.html
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Loving the unicorns & fairies Bastiaan – is that a nest they’re sitting in or roots? Canopy vs Earth? So nice to see an astrology book with what at first glance appears to be a light-hearted cover. If you don’t mind me asking what is their significance? Thanks for sharing the link – Mystic’s book is top of my list but yours just got added.
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Wow! That’s a must read! I have Mercury retrograde in my natal chart.
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My sense of time is out of whack. Which wasn’t much of an issue till I mentioned to the Aquarian daughter that I had to go to the State Library today for study purposes so could give her a lift back to brissie….um I was sure it was Tuesday today…not so much for everyone else… on Public Holiday schedule.
Oh slightly trad merc retro thing, I was getting familial pressure about my DVD player not working. A connecty cord got broken when someone body slammed danced into earlier this month at the Sagg birthday bash. So yesterday morning when the Sagg boyfriend got a bit moody, and pouty, Aqua daughter and I went to buy a DVD cord to mute his mood with DVD rays. No cord in this town so we drove a store 30 minutes away which meant 60 minutes at least without moody Saggboy…btw in succession each female in this family was hormonal over the Christmas break so maybe he thought it fair for it to be his turn…except he was the moodiest of us all…anyway got the cord and I also bought the American Werewolf in London, and some movie with Ricky Gervais that the American’s sweetened the last line up to gag worthiness btw…otherwise it was good..
So we get home and Aqua daughter is connecting the cords up with their matching colours and goes , ‘It won’t fit.’ ‘I’m like what, it has to fit it’s a universal cord?!!!’ She shows it to me and it’s like a micro smidge bigger than the previous cord….I’m thinking wtf type of producer of universal dvd cord thingies lets their cords have a fat day? Then she switches it about and goes ‘ Nah my mistake I had them in the wrong way.’
So it was weird at least….sort of.
Happy Public Holiday Aussie peeps.
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was the Ricky Gervais movie Ghost Town?. I loved that movie.
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Leonine Librarian, your DVD anecdote is hilarious!
And yes, of course, not surprising that the cord get s broken during a SAGG party. Too funny!!!
And I don’t know about Ricky Gervais doing Hollywood. It would take so much courage/purism to say no but I hate the edge taken of subtle irony and accurately targeted cynicism.
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Yeah it was SR. I loved many aspects of it…had many laugh out loud, oh that was a good bit moments…and it was a fine line he was walking and thought that for the most part he did keep that ‘accurately targeted cynicism’ SS/NScMiC mentioned. I’m just an especially hard sell on the first line and last line of a movie/book.
m.e.r.c.i.l.e.s.s.
TOTAL tangent change but did anyone just notice the merc in merciless just then? I wonder if there are any word linkages? Hmm
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oh i’m the same, the only reason i gave it a chance was that my sister wouldn’t shut up about it. I’ve got a bit of a soft spot for Ricky Gervais. Just looked him up. He’s a Cancer with a moon in Virgo. And Merc retro in Cancer… interesting. Mars in Leo.
No, can’t say i’ve noticed the “merc” in m.e.r.c.i.l.e.s.s. Merc Retro is annoying and inconvenient but it’s not THAT bad. Not as m.e.r.c.i.l.e.s.s. as a Saturn or PLuto transit.
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LL your new avartar threw me for a sec! So used to seeing that golden heart of yours : >. Take pity on Sagg’s. I would like to kick butt, but there is no one around to even pick a lively discussion with! So instead ah am going to go eat some more bad food and will go and get into my Sci Fi. Grr! Talking about electrical things, I boiled the bloody kettle and nearly blew it up as it had no water! How stupid was that!
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As we came into summerI felt hot each time I looked at it, SS, so I had to go all cool metal…well at least through summer I will.
I love Sagg peeps lots SS…but dayum if you guys go pouty. It’s a mega pout sort of all that sweet enthusiam folded into itself. Also yes I get that no-one can be ‘on’ all the time. Especially the fire signs as we’d burn out, it’s just he’s all young and hasn’t worked out how to tamp down gradually yet…so the pout becomes this big thing instead of just him winding down. Does that make sense to you energywise?
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Sounds like some people had Oooohaaaahhhh Xmas Daze… FULL ON!
So nice you dropped a thread Mystic! I think you must be as addicted to posting as us to reading and blogging.
Have a question: If you were about to drop a bundle any moment (I am 37 weeks and a bit) what moon would you prefer for said bundle? Given the Cappy action currently especially?
What would go well? Taurus Moon nice? Gemini? Kataka Eclipse any fun?Morning ritual involves a hot tea and the ephemeris currently. I suppose this is a naughty question, baby will be heaven sent in any moon, but I am NOT good at waiting!
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WOW never occurred to me those 2 signs are so close together and yet so different in nature. Gemini will be changeable and possibly fickle – but also able to adapt to changing situations readily emotions wise & Taurus deep intense emotions – still rivers runs deep and be sedate & dependable. Isn’t the eclipse immediately before birth and indication of past life stuff or the mission in this life or something? Some karmic destiny kind of scenario? The child will choose its moment if that’s the case. Best wishes for your birthing Firetrine – exciting times : o)
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Thanks guys for the good wishes.
Full on Astro wierding for this little Goat/Ox… Nat, while karmically I deserve a Taurus moon thrown at me, I think it would be too challenging to my Sagg Moon… So, yeah, actually I have been keen on the Moon in Sagg too SR! I think it would add a little levity to his scope and No.1 babe is Sagg Asc, so it would be uber compatible.whatever – sooo interesting about the karmic eclipse factor, let me know if you remember where you read this!
As for the birth… the ultimate in “de-cluttering” is the most positive spin I can put on it.
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ROFL – yeah fengshui that womb – but maybe give the salt cure a swerve. The books on my shelf will go check it out for you xxx
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I must’ve sold it in the one of the culls but googled and it’s available on amazon & is one of the ones that’s always in 2nd hand bookshops – Spiritual Astrology: Your Personal Path to Self-Fulfillment – Jan Spiller & Karen McCoy.
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I know you’ll soon be busy Firetrine but do tell us when you know, if you have time, the moon sign of the new arrival!!
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Hiya MM, so fab you are back on deck and helloo to you gorgeous peeps- i love saying gorgos @ the mo, don’t know why. I have been sooooo baad, eating a whole box of Lindt chocs whilst watching fun DVD’s. Nothing cerebral.
My ex Scop has vanished and this worries me. I think he has gone to a detox & hopefully has not conked out somewhere.
Had a fab Christmas, went to the beach and had a picnic with disgruntled-i want to sleep all day, stay up all night Aries teenage daughter! She ended up having a fab time, loving the water etc. : > Could not make bluelibra’s yummo trifle as shops closed. Hopefully for New Year’s Eve I can.
Am resisting shops as my CC’s are already chockers and I do need more stuff to clutter my home. Am having a real need to eat sweet stuff and salty stuff – me who is usually a health freak scoffing down green smoothies!
I am aiming to tidy and de-clutter, yet here I sit at the PC wondering what wicked thing I can eat next! I am wondering if this is male withdrawal symptoms! Sigh! Stop It! Stop It, I sternly say to myself! I do not need a man in my life to be complete, though it would be bloody nice. Hmmmmm maybe its sex withdrawal symptoms!?!
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I meant to say I do NOT need more stuff!
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OK Merc & Mars retro plus some plutonic vibe to boot means I have had some great deep seated revelations – not unlike some of the other peeps here – about boundaries. Familial stuff – the people I’ve chosen to have in my life (other than the bitter chick from the distant and possibly soon to be recent past) are all great and respectful of them but some of my family members need to pull their heads in pronto or it’ll be all on.
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OOOOO of course – the penny drops – the cancer eclipse – family patterns & traditions…. and the irritant is a cancerian too. Interesting.
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there.s the trick SS- we want men in our life but we don’t need them, Maybe Mars in retro run away and hide time is a time for us gals to reassess our relationships too. I’ m gagging to txt my man but hiding the mobile from myself .
I will even mark off the days I don’t txt him while he’s in siberia and then treat myself with somehting wholesome like a carrot for every 2 days i don’t. Where is saturn girl whn I need her? -
OMG, Whatever, Kataka is on the air oh no! My ‘irritant’ is cancer too and has major famile issues – I knew that was why he has done the post Xmas hideout probably licking his wounds after not so cheery xmas day.
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Yeah it’s weird cos I haven’t spoken to my irritant for more than a decade and all of a sudden he’s on the phone annoying the crap out of me just like he always did – on a DEEP level. A weird sick feeling I always had in my stomach as a child came back for the first time in years too – they always accused me of being a fussy eater, maybe I was just perpetually pissed off LOL… no actually, it probably isn’t funny.
I just stumbled across this – I’m thinking it makes sense in the context of personal boundaries and the buttons being pushed – written by Jan Spiller (who by strange coincidence wrote the eclipse book I was talking about to firetrine above) about Saturn in Libra – Acknowledging yourself as creator of the harmony and disharmony that you experience gives you security in your ability to experience what is created. Once you are willing to undergo the possibility of disharmony in relationships, you have the capacity to actualize yourself by sharing your honest, individual point of view.
Although I don’t necessarily think we “create” all of what occurs in our realms – sometimes we’re the observer or witness to what others have created for themselves and we learn from their experiences hmm maybe that means we create something from it… anywayze semantics aside I’m thinking I might voice some of my feelings re the irritating yet strangely familiar behaviour I always felt I just had to put up with in the past and see where it gets me hehehehe. Am guessing it gets me fireworks on NY eve.
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i like that little point about acknowledging harmony/disharmony there whatever. its something i’ve been thinking about a bit, in a actions/reactions way. reminds me a bit of something i think nat talked about a while ago, about seperating emotions from situations. it’s on my mind of late. bloody easier said than done though.
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Ahhhhhh! So good! Y’all back here!
How do I work out where Mercury was when I was born? Seriously, a psychiatrist that I saw in my early 20’s told me that I hadn’t wanted to be born, and i frequently feel like I’m particicpating in life from a bit of a removed position, because I am weird.
Mercury retro, what? After seriously learning Arabic for a couple of months, I was able to go down to my real-estate agent last night (everything stays open here until 9, it’s just wonderful) and yell at them in not-awful Arabic about my unpaid water-bill and subsequent disconnection of water at mains. The water was put back on half an hour later, just as they said it would be, which is a miracle in this part of the world. Although I don’t know how much credit goes to my shrieking in Arabic.
Re men: where are they? The one I’m interested in didn’t rise to my invitational text, meanwhile the one I’m not so interested in who is far too young has made it clear he’s very interested, despite my comments about how I would warp his brain and ruin his innocence. I don’t want to do this to anyone, I just want to become a calm domestic goddess, and fall in love with a god. Is that too much to ask?
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i think your requests are perfectly reasonable.
Apparently all the men have run off to Siberia. Hehe
To check your Merc and/or get free chart go to Astro.com and then ‘Free horoscopes/Astro Click Portrait’. There’s a handy ephemeris there too.
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You do know that saying you could warp his brain and ruin his innocence is probably NOT a turn off to him don’t you Seabird?
Also not too much to ask.
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Touche LL! Exactiment.
I am in same said situation, i.e. deluged by men I have zero interest in to the point, that one of them asked me, “SO, what are you looking for in a man?”
And I answered, “Well, him apparently.”
The same guy then blithely invites me to coffee, texts, emails, calls, etc. his number to please reach him as he wants to get to know me. Like, isn’t it quite enough to know I’m liking someone else?
Seabird, kudos for standing up for yourself in Arabic no less. I have to say cultures in that part of the world do have respect for the impassioned argument so you probably more than spoke their language in that respect.
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nothing more off putting than someone actually saying “I’d like to get to know you better” Eeeuuuw. No need to point out the bleeding obvious when they’re practically stalking you!!
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HAHAHAHA. I do love you Scorpy!
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I like this news in the merc retro style – http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/latest/6626879/google-dreaming-locates-hidden-crater/
Love that a scientist is willing to take ancient oral stories and use modern technology to prove the truth of them.
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Actually I think he’s positively aching to be ruined. I just can’t really deal with the aftermath re young men – they idolise you, follow you round, do anything you ask of them, play with your kid and get unbelievably cut-up when you move on. On the other hand, they have no baggage, are usually pretty cheerful to be around and have heaps of energy. It’s just not what I need at this stage of life. It probably IS what HE needs though!he’s very sweet, very intelligent, very easy to get along with, very innocent and a bit too young for me! I’ll go a five-year age gap, but not a ten-year one unless they’ve really got their head screwed on tight.
meanwhile the other guy…ohhhh…..slow drool falls out one side of mouth….ahhh eh eerm. Ok. Stop.
HOW do I figure out if Merc was retro when i was born though? Scorpalicious, I went to astro.com but can’t work it out because am dumb blonde
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A ten year age gap is NOTHING!!! Go for it!
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hehe, okay go back to astro.com and go to the ephemeris (link on the left) and select your year of birth and then go to the month and day. The planets are all lined up in order across the top – Sun, Moon, Merc Venus etc. There’ll be a little “R” in the mercury column if your Merc is retro. Give that a whirl and if you’re still confused then I’m happy to look it up for you if you don’t mind giving me your date of birth.
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seabird, how about Audrey Hepburn(sp?) her guy adored her and he was heaps younger. The age thing is a hang up as we women have been so brainwashed that it is we who can be heaps younger than guys! Why not the other way/ Have you noticed older women with younger lovers are called cougars. What do old guys with young chics get called?
However….tis your call…ah know tis a hard call too. Just do not want you to miss out, for life is way too short.
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Um yeah in favour of young guys sometimes working well …my Virgo Dad is 7 years younger than my Aries Mum. He is however measured in his approach to life…and while chronologically 21 when they met, was probably vibing about 32. They’ve been together for 48 years…and are awesomely happy together.
oh and SS old guys with young chicks are these days called Rhinos, ‘cos they’re considered horny and ugly. Um that comment about old guy labelling is not meant to be judgement ridden, um just informative.
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heh! Heh! Aw LL you are tres gorgeous ; > Tres informative indeed! ; >
I think my brain was so overloaded with sugar that my thought patterns in spelling etc were totally up the creek! I looked at “chics” and thought hmm something is wrong! Duh! chicks it is!
Rhino’s ha ha ha I lurve it…
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Ten year age gap is all good. All that matters is that you are hot for each other … but if you don’t want him, don’t bother unless it’s for practice

I’ve tried dating older men – my age, 10 and 20 years older and I’m afraid I can’t gather the enthusiasm to go through with it. 10 to 12 years younger is about my mental age level, the older guys are generally too conservative and less open, more controlling. (in my experience only) Could be a sagg venus thing. I like to feel free … and it’s hard to have an equal, “friends” type relationship with someone who is acting like a daddy figure instead of your equal. (eek)
I have no real maternal twinges yet so I don’t think I have much of a motherly approach to younger men. It still surprises me that I’m over sixteen, quite frankly, because I suspect that’s my mental age.so …. Seabird …. go for what you like!!
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Scorpalicious – you’ve learnt me something new, thankyou! No I was not born with Mercury in retro, it just feels like that.
Re all the comments above – yes, if I wanted to I would. he is very sweet and wildly clever but he’s also from here, and despite being educated in the states, he’s a young country boy from the backwaters of a backwater country. His love-life to date is already 100% more adventurous than most of the young guys here, due to US education, but that’s not saying much around these parts. If he was from the same background as me, he might know what he’s up for. As it is, I think he has no idea, and when I inevitably theoretically tell him to go away, I think he’d take it very badly. Now I am not responsible for his emotions, but I feel like starting the new year as a fully conscious woman as opposed to the dumb bimbo I’ve formerly channelled for much of my love life. I just don’t feel like being in charge of someone else. Judgmental I know, but I just feel it might be like pulling the wings off a butterfly. He might like this, but I don’t wanna find out!
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Mind you, I just realised my last lover was 25 and when I told him no way he wrote me a long letter explaining that I was being narrow-minded – and he was right, but I left anyway. And before him there was a slew of early-to-mid twenties guys, interested but not taken on. What’s the go? I am a (almost not any more) bitter divorcee with a six-year-old child and a rather colourful past, not to mention a slightly unstable way with the world. Maybe I’m vibing something they like. It just makes me feel a bit dissipated. Which is a feeling I’d like not to have….
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Retro Mars = changing your approach. It sounds like your saturn/uranus and maybe some pluto/lilith to boot – men sense what you refer to as instability (I read it as a sense of freedom that is maybe not accepted as the norm) and they want to catch and tame it. You’re a challenge. You sound smart. You know how it will end. You know you don’t want that. Rational choices based on experience and knowledge of yourself. Sounds like it’s a diversion you don’t need. You’re not weird you sound smarter than most and possibly due to lessons learned less driven by need than desire. You’re judging the situation and probable outcome not the man. There’s nothing wrong with that. Trust your instincts you sound so totally NOT dumb.
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i just want to go to sleep and wake up in 2010! fuq!
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Doing feng shui clearing out of extraneous clutter from bedroom in order to allow room for good luck and more men
or something like that. Just looked up my chart (still learning) and 4th house (home stuff) in Virgo, so combined with Taurus Rising, perhaps explains my need for a calm, uncluttered, well-ordered home environment. My lovely Ex never understood it – he always equated clutter with work & busy-ness, whereas I find it hard to do work in a chaotic environment.
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Oh and I vacuumed … this is an event for me.
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Oh prowln you make me laugh. Whenever I vacuum (highly infrequent) I have to go and have a drink to celebrate.
My (male) flatmate vacuums frequently and I find myself immediately strangely erotically attracted to him when he does so. From this we can deduce that I need a traditional-style “wife”…
… but one who looks like a male stripper.
I think I need the not-really-boyfriend to come back soon, I am going to implode with frustration otherwise. I don’t know how I’m going to wait until mid-Jan or mid-March. Will just have to download more porn and continue looking outwardly cool and enigmatic.
Off to feng shui my room some more.
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the retro vibe is officially no good for essay & the writing of. I’ve worked out the middle just cant get the beginning & end happening. Normally I write the last para first & work back but no, that doesn’t work right now. BAH.
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Noooooooooooooo. Say it ain’t so? When is it due in whatever?
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Whatever, ok after my empathetic wailing…I’ve found in the past that sometimes taking yourself out of the situation helps.
Sorry this is probably going to sound a lot like wanky pop blithering and is not meant to come across either as patronising…but this has worked for me . It sounds like you’ve gone for the meat without incorporating the bones…
I recommend looking at your work as though it is your friend’s work. I would ask a friend have they relooked at the question, really relooked at the key words and what is asked…also cross analyse this with what your marking criteria is.
Does this match what has already been written?
Are there gaps?
If you had to explain this in conversation to someone (in non-academic writing style) what is your argument?
Sometimes bribing someone to sit still long enough as a sounding board helps shake this loose…and write stuff down as soon as you think of it, say it.
See if this helps you shape your essay into something with a beginning/middle and end.
I hope this helps whatever or at the very least know that your pain is shared. I’m just about to get back into mine.
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good stuff LL !
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GREAT advice LL no wank perceived – thank you – I’ve got myself in a bit of a pickle and the subject is huge and I think I’ve been trying to answer 2 of the possible questions at the same time maybe to have a bet each way. The aqua will listen luckily but I don’t want to use up that critical ear credit until I’ve got something more substantial. I just haven’t got the bones yet you’re so right.
Before when I was just studying along normally it was all ok but now I’ve got the use saturn as a way to succeed idea in my head and I have my eye on the grade point average and suddenly I think I have performance anxiety trying to match my last marks and it’s causing problems for me. I need to stop thinking about the big picture.
I’ve got all these ideas flying round in the head contradicting each other and it just occurred to me it’s because what I’ve discovered about the topic is actually a contradiction in itself. Maybe I go back to drawing board and make it ABOUT how contradictory it is as opposed to trying to order it in my head – my head likes to order things. Maybe there is no order to it – it’s an issue that was unresolved in its time which is why I can’t resolve it on paper. The essay is like a metaphor. The writer is going for a walk.
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discussing the apparent contradictions is a good approach if your brain can’t get past them. things can be ordered into – this side says this thing, this side said that thing, this bit is where i compare and contrast. means you have to make sure you can see why the contradictions exist (diff methodologies, applications etc), and make sure its not just that you’ve missed something.
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thanks shell I had the epiphany during the walk and your words totally resonate with how I decided to approach it. Am struggling with enlightenment pholosophies and how they were all for the rights of man but not woman and how that worked – or didn’t – in relation to the arts. And it appears to be oh so apt for this particular eclipse that this is my choice of topic. Bizarre.
Thanks so much to you both I’m super grateful – I think I’m on the right track now. Feminism always does my head in. Too much thinking.
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I understand how easy it is to latch on to our successes and beat ourselves just a little bit harder to reach that bit higher.
Funnily enough I’ve worked out that my last two subjects mean diddly squat to me getting into the masters program I’d like to do…all I have to do is pass. The editing one I ended up with a distinction, and this one meh…we’ll see.
I find sometimes that just going back to basics, and looking over it helps. I found after the car accident and my return to study that I was overlooking just how much prep I did to make it look easy. It’s fricking hard work…but satisfying if we let ourselves enjoy delving and splicing together new theories…and damn it even substantiate our arguments. Also in reference to your comment below and Shell’s a walk does wonders to shake things out, and I think it’s the cracks where you find the interesting stuff…
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YES I LOVE the research LL – and finding the cracks and all of it. I become consumed by the quest for just that little bit extra – same with the astro research I do as a diversion when I’m meant to be studying LOL. I think I went to the same eris place as you a few days ago where they talk about her good qualities – also where all the info about sedna and nessus was? FASCINATING.
You’re right about going back to basics too – I went off on the feminist tangent and now I’ve had to pull back because it was becoming convoluted and about that more than the question. Merc retro seems to be taking me on sprawling voyages of tangential thinking and then I have to get all the way back home again. It’s helping me learn but it’s not getting it done. Good I realised tho I’ll stop doing that now hopefully – good luck with your editing one – I always wonder if merc retro helps that kind of thing.
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It’s law, business freaking law and ethics…and I have to/chose to if I want to graduate…which I do, do a 1500 word essay analysing/assessing the ethics of incentives and bonuses in regards to CEO’s et al within the context of the recent global crisis.
I spent the morning at the state library and have to go all highlighter and mind mappy tonight while it’s still fresh. I am concentrating on not spinning off into side stuff. I keep having these plot lines for thrillers poking at me as I’m doing this…so I’m just going to let myself play a little in the margins with a couple of stabby knives and poisons …for now…but still doing the steps that are necessary to analyse and assess etc. I’ve stopped judging myself too harshly on how I get there, as long as I get there…big lesson of 2009. It’s been all notes to self…’lighten the fuq up!!!’ and get your shit done.
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it’s funny on the other post re the moody dudie I was going to suggest arsenic as a solution but figured that may be a little dark even if I was joking… and I was.
Onward and upward Lovely LL – with law and ethics you’re within a framework of pre existing rules & theories and that give a good foundation from which to analyse? Saturnine theories and Jovian misconduct. They tell me Saturn is exalted at the moment – fingers crossed the dry old bastard helps you thru.
O and accident? Mars Saturn Uranus bingle? Hope you’re ok now. Accidents have a weird way of making you more determined than you might’ve been prior. Seeya.
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Oh hey weird thing my enlightenment tangents of the last week led me to the theories of Adam Smith – the father of modern economics. His theories of moral sentiment & the wealth of nations were loosely mentioned in my scintillating readings about labour and crop rotation and like Alfred Nobel I think if those theorists knew what was going to happen they might have kept their mouths shut.
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Yes, what are eclipses all about? What is the energy you are experiencing?
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eclipses are all about change.
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Sudden, radical, out of the blue change – this one’s in cancer so it will relate in some way to family/group traditions, rituals and dynamics or someone in the family/group suddenly changing or leaving. So if it happens in your 6th house it may manifest as someone at work suddenly leaving – probably a woman because cancer is ruled by the moon which is symbolic or feminine energies. How it unfurls in your life depends on which house in your chart is ruled by cancer. Sometimes the effects are played out over a few weeks or sometimes it’s a single event that hits you like a lightening strike. Then later on in the year the events or situations relating to them are again triggered by eclipses occurring in the same astro signs. They echo. Uranian types love them – it feels like home to them. Bring it home mama bring it on home… lol
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the july eclipse last year was in cancer wasn’t it? does that mean looking back to then for hints to this now? or is it better to focus on shorter eclipse time frames – this one to the new moon one?
i think i getting a tad over trying to do psych work on myself, it almost makes it all worse. the shite still carries on regardless, just now i react more cause i’m always bloody analysising/feeling it. or something.
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I think they are linked shell they come in little clusters and all work together – anyone else know for sure? Sweetpea’s exited stage left and she would’ve known… missing you already sweetness.
That one was trined by uranus – I harnessed it by ending a lease, having the final inspection and flying to a new city all on that day. It was in the 29th degree of cancer and the last degree of a sign is meant to be about endings – and cancer rules the home so i guess that was apt. It had a powerful effect on peeps whose sun is in the last degrees of the cardinals cos it happened in the last degrees of a cardinal sign. So if you check out the degree and sign of your sun I’m pretty sure it’ll give you an idea of what the theme of the next one is. And yes hear hear to getting sick of analysing. It’s a bit exhausting sometimes.
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Thanks for answering BlackstarARies question so well… really interesting whatever… You guys are a great read by the way, I can’t contribute on romantic yearnings currently but I love the drama here, so gutsy!
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yes whatever, i’ve heard they come in clusters. Something might start at one eclipse and then come to some resolution at the next.
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that july eclipse was smack bang on my saturn, in the 12th, which is conjunct my asc and mars. i’m not sure what it ended, life was pretty all over the joint then, but certainly timed around the beginning of some kind of emotional shit fight (with myself mainly) that does not really have seen to have let up, even when i think it has. i’m a bit tired of it really.
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12th house is secrets coming out isn’t it? And hidden enemies? Wow that’s a whopper of a conjunction you’ve got going on there.
The 12th isn’t one I know much about – which is kind of apt now that I’ve googled it – this may be of interest to you http://thezodiac.com/12thhouse.htm – having saturn there is full on – saturn rules prisons and places of confinement and the mars as well would make it all a bit intense? Makes sense what you say – the change is maybe occurring deeply in the psyche? Catching fleeting glimpses of yourself in misty corridors…
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Dr Z’s a bit intense in retrospect – it’s weird the random astro that pops up with a google. Sweet dreams shell, I’m off to read about how bad it would have been to be a woman 200 years ago – puts my life into perspective let me tell you x
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thanks for the google whatever, tried to read it on the train today, on the teeny little laptop i’m on which ain’t so user friendly. not much sunk in, but got me pondering a little the connections between saturn in cancer, pisces moon in 8th square neptune in 5th. only minor aspect btw sat and moon /nep. but thinking about things that were hidden becoming apparent, and beginning/ending in relation to those areas was intersting, and needs closer googling. once i get home away from the mossies and this lame little computer.
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Well my Saturnalia season started with the news of the death of one of my oldest friends. We’ve known each other since we were 3 (him) and 5 (me). I got the news at our Christmas Eve drinks party, and then I had to hold it together until our guests left, at which point I fell apart, got blind drunk, and ended up drinking whisky and watching Dirty Dancing. Xmas morning was spent with the bereaved family – it was heart breaking when his father arrived and the parents hugged and mourned their little boy. Christmas night was in intimate dinner for 8, all long time friends, and it was wonderful. Boxing day was spent letting the wider community know about the death of my friend. Ever so grateful the weather in Brissie is just so wet, it allowed me to totally hibernate, avoid the world, and just sleep, read, eat and mourn.
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I hope the energy shift that comes with the eclipse assists you in some way with your grieving PMS and v happy to hear you’re surrounded by loved ones right now. PEACE
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Thanks whatever and shell – he was a scorp too, so I’m choosing to see his death a his final escape from a reality he hated – so his final phoenix rising in this lifetime.
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sorry to hear that love. take care
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Sorry to hear your news postmodscorp, you tell this story beautifully well and it is touching to read how you celebrated his life this Christmas.
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Has anybody noted that it is apparently a blue moon on Thursday night. I am going out to the desert – to the Empty Quarter (God I love writing that, it is one of the most beautiful places in the entire world – especially at 5am) and sit under the full blue moon with friends and ponder what comes around only in a blue moon. Last one was apparently in 1990.
Blessings to all the people regularly on here. i find it funny (being a bit old-fashioned) that I derive so much support from an online community, but I do, and I think a lot of other people here do too. Maybe one day we could all meet in the real world!
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Seabird the desert is the most splendid place in the world for stars… that sounds so completely beyond awesome… May your Empty Quarter runneth over this blue moon.
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i second that. How lucky you are Seabird, to see the blue moon from such a gorgeous place. And you’re not alone in deriving support from this community. We’re truly blessed to have Mystic provide this space for sharing, learning, fun and humour.
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Cancer my 6th house. Thnx What-evah!









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