Venusian Bats

Raymond+Meier+×+Caroline+Trentini+-+The+New+York+Times+Magazine+Style+01.05.2008+-+POW!+KERPLOW!!+BOING!!+-+003Raymond Meier

For the next few days Venus hooks up with Weird Planetary Dudes Uranus & Neptune.

It’s totally too hard to do bourgeois loving. And boy, have you picked the wrong few days to do dinner with in-laws or dutiful shite.

Think of Uranus as more like Prometheus or Promethea and in harmony with Venusian values for a better grip on it.  Add the square to Magical Realist Neptune and well, your love life can be v.satisfyingly morphed between now and next week’s Full Moon. It may be morphed overtly (compleat with peeps tut-tutting) or simply a mental segue that is nonethless QUITE the thought-quake experience for you.

It could be something else Venusian -getting suddenly over a past romantic thing, a $$$ realisaton or a rad makeover. Dreams bring good love guidance and it’s no use trying to be conventional. Unless that’s  your form of rebellion because you’ve been an insane player all year or something.

Note also that Uranus is zapping out weirding-rays all OVER the place, a bit like Mercury Retrograde, only it’s more affecting love,  your nervous system and systems in general. Let your mind run free (excellent fantasizing vibe) but ground your body and run any planned communiques through a sanity-check or at least wait until you have sobered up before bashing the send button.

N.C.+Winters+-+I+love+technologyN.C. Winters

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  1. shell’s avatar

    “Dreams bring good love guidance and it’s no use trying to be conventional”
    ha.
    I dreamed this morning the Mars was a cucumber. He was (not surprisingly) particularly unhappy because he threw a party (in the fridge) and some of his friends didn’t come. I advised Venus, who was coming later, of Mars’ current mood, and suggested she bring some violets for protection.
    Later, when my aunts and grandmother were asking me if I’d come to church with them, and I explained I don’t do that, and that I was quite tired, because Mars had kept me awake with his tantrum throwing, and they were like ‘Mars?’, to which I replied, yeh you know, mythological god of war. Then they tried to bribe me to come to church with a fancy lunch after, and slipped in that they needed to take something for the after church cup of tea session, yes a cucumber. I agreed that could probably be arranged, and made a mental note to self to ask Venus to bring another cucumber with her when she came. She must have had a garden or something.

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    1. Leonine Librarian’s avatar

      Freud much?

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    2. Baristagem’s avatar

      A cucumber??? just looked it up & surprisingly there is an interpretation.. lol

      Cucumber
      To see or eat a cucumber in your dream, signifies recuperation and recovery. You need to regain your energy and health. Alternatively, it is symbolic of the phallus and have sexual connotations. dreammoods.com

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      1. Über Virgo’s avatar

        Sometimes a cucumber is just a cucumber.

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        1. Leonine Librarian’s avatar

          Wouldn’t you think a mars cucumber would have a little more going on than it’s inherent cucumber state?

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          1. Über Virgo’s avatar

            Sorry, couldn’t resist a Freud piss take. But I love the image of Mars as cucumber. As in cool as…It’s pure genius, especially the ladies auxiliary taking it to a church morning tea. And Venus would bring her own cucumber when she’s currently in Scorp. Great dream, but perhaps time to let Mars out of the cold. Motorize him?

          2. shell’s avatar

            he can organise parties for example.
            there was even fire twirling.

          3. Über Virgo’s avatar

            Not to mention Greek salads

          4. nat’s avatar

            … and cucumber sandwiches. they are most refreshing when the cucumber is sliced very finely & dipped in a little vinegar with sugar.

          5. shell’s avatar

            and in war, whilst he may not be effective in battle, he can always be relied upon to feed the troops.

          6. Leonine Librarian’s avatar

            I’ve had a few nights of strange sleep, my brain is being a little too literal…poor little neurons are being a little slow in their ability to push through and connect…slackers.

        2. Salacious Sagg’s avatar

          heh Uber, I can just see you grin gleefully here! I must say i thought of sex right away! ahem!

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      2. shell’s avatar

        brilliant – cucumbers as classic dream iconography.
        I’m just excited about the idea of Mars as a cucumber. No need for Saturn Boy, we’ve got Mars as Cucumber Man!!!

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        1. shell’s avatar

          Robots – can you photoshop that?

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          1. Leonine Librarian’s avatar

            Well there is already bikermice from mars…cucumber mars…why not?

          2. scorpalicious robot’s avatar

            Hehe, it can be done but would heaps more work than the budgie. It would require drawing a cartoon character. I’m better at transforming pixels.

          3. shell’s avatar

            Yeh, thought as much.
            i did somewhat tentatively google cucumber man earlier, wondering if there was something easily altered (the search results were actually very lame). Perhaps green lantern, or the hulk as a template, a bit more cylindrical, or lumpy?
            Green lantern was always my favourite league of justice dude.

      3. venus a-go-go’s avatar

        I would be much more interested in going to church if there was sex after. Or I ate Mars.

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        1. Über Virgo’s avatar

          The Rajneeshies are into that.

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          1. venus a-go-go’s avatar

            Thus far, I like them.
            Who are they?

          2. Über Virgo’s avatar

            Followers of Osho, the late guru formerly known as Bhagwan Rajneesh. The group was embroiled in tons of scandal and controversy. Plenty of free love to be had though, as long as you’re not gay. I went out with a follower once. He was an Aries and totally in it for the free for all sex, as the compassion and enlightenment side totally escaped him.

          3. venus a-go-go’s avatar

            The last bit normally bypasses most people, I find:)

          4. pegasus’s avatar

            O Uber that’s o so Osho.

          5. pegasus’s avatar

            I replied at same time. Yes, it was my teacher Margot Anand that was
            the one he chose to carry on his work in the west.
            Acutally The Book of Secrets by Osho is fantastic but as someone said when they
            saw it on my desk was ‘well guess it won’t be a secret anymore’.

  2. Baristagem’s avatar

    Omg I think this pic is Prowln who is sneaking off to secretly hook up with ex toro dude… lol

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  3. bluelibra’s avatar

    Am contemplating your posting this morning Mystic. ‘Ground thy body…’ hmmm – alcohol is probably not what you had in mind (?) Loved your dream shell. Most of my dreams lately have been quite violent and featured either my death or the death of my children and or close friends – not a good feeling to wake up with.

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    1. Über Virgo’s avatar

      Srsly, I have Tarantino style violent nightmares if I drink red wine or any kinds of liqueurs or fortified wine. I hardly drink at all these days, but my sleep is disturbed by alcohol, caffeine of sugar.

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  4. bluelibra’s avatar

    I’m also finding The Source Weekly pic I love technology quite poignant.

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  5. Sweetpea’s avatar

    Had told the Pisces/Leo Mars-Moon ex that when in the veggie dept. picking out cuc’s I think of him.

    He said “thank you”…

    Twas true.

    Now, just this past week, needed a cuc and low and behold the memory.

    Cuc’s die hard. Even if not battery operated Uber..lol

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  6. unpredictable pisces’s avatar

    god, PLEASE give me a thought-quake, love re-awakening (NOT with toro), and / or sudden release of past romantic thing …I am going crazy. Doesn’t help that I am in a town with limited useful / interesting distractions, or even alternative eye candy. Am taking a pisces (male) friend’s advice and getting a new hobby. In this case an old one revisited – surfing . No time to mooch and be a sad sack when waves are landing on your head

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    1. shell’s avatar

      and surfer dudes to ‘appreciate’

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      1. unpredictable pisces’s avatar

        oh yes there may be some appreciating. it’s a bit dad- and grommet- heavy in this part of the world so is more about me re-establishing jurisdiction over my heart and mind.

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        1. xox rockstar libran publicist xox’s avatar

          current Aries object d’interest be both a dad & a surfer – as was the prevoius Aries surfer…….

          but good for you UP – think how fab your abs from all that paddling!!

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          1. unpredictable pisces’s avatar

            water temp around here is about 21 degrees…i have NO excuse RLP :)

          2. xox rockstar libran publicist xox’s avatar

            where are you UP?
            BTW off to check water temp round here RIGHT NOW!!!

          3. unpredictable pisces’s avatar

            mid north coast…temp still a bit variable late spring but sure is good on those hot days

  7. unpredictable pisces’s avatar

    why is a cucumber better than a man?

    you can bring home 10 cucumbers, none of them complain or get greedy, and no one gossips.
    you can leave a cucumber on the bench when you parents visit and no one bats an eyelid.
    a cucumber will stay hard for about 5 days.
    a cucumber never lies.
    it will help keep you slim and healthy and if you slice it right it even takes the bags away from under your eyes, rather than putting them there.

    love, cynical pisces (today only) xx

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    1. Sweetpea’s avatar

      Cute…

      Saggo bestie told me this years ago…

      “What is green and goes “slam, slam, slam”….

      Answer: A four door pickle

      Pickles are just a cuc revisted, no? :)

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      1. Sweetpea’s avatar

        Oh, forgot one slam to make a four door..

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        1. unpredictable pisces’s avatar

          ok. why does a chicken coop have 2 doors?

          because if it had 4 doors, it would be a … chicken sedan.

          boom boom

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          1. Sweetpea’s avatar

            love it….haha!

          2. Sweetpea’s avatar

            Why did the chicken cross the road?

            I don’t know…Ask him yourself! What do I look like Barbara Walters? :)

  8. sun Cap asc Virgo moon Pisc’s avatar

    thank you so much all for the light relief!
    I’m sticking with cucumbers for now…

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  9. nat’s avatar

    Mystic, thank you for the insights into this weird vibe.

    I totally hate it when Uranus goes zapping its rays around. Its all calm on the love front but it is totally messing with my neurones, nerves and my tolerance of other people. Dolts at work are THIS CLOSE to getting a blast from me today. I am biting my tongue, gritting my teeth, counting to 20, running the Noblesse Oblige Generator, the Saturn Girl Filter & every bloody restraining device I can think of… and retreating in here for a tune up of course!

    Yick to Uranus. Maybe if I had more (read any) stuff in Aqua I would get this vibe better? Valium until it passes seems like an attractive option, but alas, I have sh*t loads of work to get done by tmrw. Prometheus or Promethea in harmony with Venusian values, eh??? I’ll give that a go.

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    1. Salacious Sagg’s avatar

      nat, can you get hold of some Resue Remedy? Or some yumm Lindt chocolate? ; > Huge hugs and good vibes fly your way xxx

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      1. Salacious Sagg’s avatar

        That was supposed to be Rescue Remedy!

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        1. shell’s avatar

          Nat – we can set Cucumber Man on them if you like?

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          1. shell’s avatar

            oh my god, my brain is all over the joint with this vibe – and the cucumber dream – so shouldn’t type the following but just canna help it…..

            Nat – Cucumber Man is particularly adept at tackling Uranus….

          2. shell’s avatar

            ah – just remembered uranus is in my 8th.

            off to try channel some of that energy into manifesting a bit more of some other people’s money, rather than, um, cucumbers.

          3. shell’s avatar

            a bit more looking, cause i’ve been wired since monday.
            mercury conjunct my neptune in sagg in 5th, moon conjunct my moon in 8th, venus in loose/tight opposition to sun, merc, jupiter and venus, trine moon and jupiter, mars square venus, uranus square neptune, etc… and all that aqua stuff in my 7th.
            no wonder i’m dreaming of cucumbers, and feeling very silly.

            yes i’m going now.

          4. scorpalicious robot’s avatar

            me too – Uranus in 8th…. and Mars and Pluto all in Virgo. Talk about a packed house!

    2. unpredictable pisces’s avatar

      I can relate Nat – Just keep telling yourself, “only 1.5 more days til Saturday…hang in there…deep breaths, go outside for a walk and fresh air every hour…head down…” so glad i am alone in the office today.

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  10. Salacious Sagg’s avatar

    Prowln, where oh where art thou? Nackered I presume?? ; >

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  11. Sweetpea’s avatar

    Truth be told, somewhat self conscious when comparison shopping the cucs..Gotta handle em and all….Hold up to the light….Weigh in each hand to see which one more meaty….Run fingers over to get a sense of “knobbyness”. Lip sinc for a sec….

    Nice big smooth ones. Those are the cucs I like.

    Honest!!

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    1. shell’s avatar

      the burpless ones?

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      1. Sweetpea’s avatar

        Gagless? Er, I mean burpless? Never burped on a cuc before Shells.

        But like you, have Cucumber in my eigth house.

        Make that the Moon rather… :)

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        1. scorpalicious robot’s avatar

          i have Mars in my 8th. :)

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          1. Sweetpea’s avatar

            It’s a Cucumber Moon soon and transiting Mars in Cuc…lol!!

  12. scorpalicious robot’s avatar

    Oh wow, i had a Uranian type dream last night. It was totally mind-blowing – I actually woke up and wrote it down so i could remember.
    I was flying through the sky, following balls of light pinging in all sorts of directions, it was like a sci-fi movie, a medieval forest, strange creatures, changing my identity, but some character/thing discovering who i really am ’cause my mobile phone/GPS was in my pocket. None of it makes any sense and words don’t do it justice but i feel like I want to go back into my dream world. Infinitely more exciting than reality at the moment. :-|

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    1. Sweetpea’s avatar

      Oh sorry to hear that Scorpy and do agree at times.

      But your dream sounds like a lot of Mystics posts all rolled into one as far as the “what is she doing scenarios”.

      And the pinging off in all sorts of directions sounds like what Mystic was saying about Uranus. Very apt, I’d say.

      Hope you DO get a chance to go back. Will yourself!! x

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  13. nat’s avatar

    SS & shell, thanks for your kind offers of Rescue Remedy, Lindt & Cucumber Man :) Most appreciated. Will try to encompass all 3 in my lunch break!

    In trying to “Think of Uranus as more like Prometheus or Promethea and in harmony with Venusian values for a better grip on it.”, as Mystic suggests above, I stitched together the following advice for myself.

    1. From Wikipedia on Prometheus (from 16 second skim with apologies to well-read mythologists):
    Prometheus had wily intelligence but played a trick on Zeus and incurred his wrath and, therefore, had his liver eaten out by an eagle every day as punishment.

    Interp for self:
    No tricks, espec not on Zeus. No problem.

    2. From Wikipedia on Promethea comic (12 second skim):
    Christians killed her parents and she lives forever via imagination & thoughts. Not good to have more than one imagined version alive at the same time.

    Interp for self:
    Thoughts are powerful, so take a look at the quality of your own. Thoughts help create what is ‘alive’ around us. Start having more positive ones, or at least let the bad ones come up and out and not stay in there going round and round and round… Got any techniques for that? Check. Got good ones so apply them pronto and keep applying until feel better.

    3. Remember the qualities of Venus – appreciation, beauty, harmony, possessions, values, resources, manners and love in the bigger sense.

    Interp’s for self:
    - Look around yourself girl & appreciate what you have. Do a stock-take & count (yes, 2 Saturn words snuck in there) your blessings. Oh right, Appreciation Day… I know it, I invented it, I can use it again today.

    - Remember saying attributed to Buddhists about beauty:
    2 rules:
    #1 see the beauty in everything.
    #2. if you cannot see the beauty in something, refer to rule #1.

    - If my world is lacking in some beauty and harmony then I can create some. Don’t get pissed off because no-one else is bothering, as usual. Do it for myself and do it nicely, with self-love & good manners.

    - If resources are lacking today, prioritise what I give them to. Choose one thing and do it. Simple. Limit incoming demands by putting phone through to answering machine. Check.

    aaahhh, feeling better already…

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    1. unpredictable pisces’s avatar

      nat, who sent you? can i buy you lunch one day? you utterly rock.

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      1. nat’s avatar

        :lol: aww, thanks for being so kind *U*P*! You sure can buy me lunch one day! As rambling as it was, my tune up on self using Mystic’s themes worked, especially focussing on the Venus qualities. Keen to leave work now. Hope your day improved too x

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  14. BlackstarAries’s avatar

    A friend of mine growing up drew a comic of a superhero- Super Pickle!

    It makes sense that a super hero of cucumber man would be a pickle!

    I had a nic esatisfyingly wierd dream last night. People were all intense in this organization mode getting people to long tables and working on projects…I fuzzed out, but when I tune in again, it turns out they were making cakes and decorating, and all of a suddemn the leader organizing basically says- NOW! and he throws one at me and everyone throws at each other..lol…..CAke fight!

    See the beauty in everything. I have been much more lately….I love Venus!

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  15. Ms.’s avatar

    Seems I am not alone getting blasts of WTF from uranus.

    Mystic good post. I couldn’t be more in sync with this all. I feel totally broken today. And you totally called it last week- but was fine then, now Leo ex ness is totally kicking off manifesting publicly surrounding a launch, a rock gig and a lot of complex previous lover jealously around him and ego dramas to which I am to play a 1950s shutup and look hot housewife that plays Tammy Wynette’s “stand by your man” when the string is pulled.

    That aside I am having total style/self/life re vamp urges this aside as well, like my inner phoenix is about to burst and everything I have been keeping under wraps is about to pop and a million colours will fly out of me.

    My world is about to do another 360 I feel very shortly.

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  16. prowlncat’s avatar

    I just woke up (lunchtime) … twas a long ermm evening. Wow I didn’t even know all this Venusian business was going on. There ya go … I blame everything on Venus … actually probably more Uranus.

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    1. xox rockstar libran publicist xox’s avatar

      yeah well I went to a conservation doco then dinner with besties & made it home early all nice & tidy – then the young Libran Surfing Artist dialed in…….late hours over here as well.

      AND have a swish ‘do’ tonight when I’d rather hang out at home…… actually shouldnt whinge – is launch of Stella McCartney’s husband’s brand at a Classic Car showroom….. tho still sitting here in bikinis unmotivated to frock up & rock out…..

      so prowlers – gath the ex encounter went off??

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    2. davidl’s avatar

      Im hoping uranus had little to do with it. Now, I know I was asked to be quiet.. I am pleased though, it sounded like it filled a mutual ‘need’? a bit like an ‘empathy’ fuq ?

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    3. prowlncat’s avatar

      hehe .. I don’t know. Actually nothing profound to say about the whole expedition except I had fun and it felt like blowing a big raspberry at my Saturn squ Venus transit. I guess I just got bored with the hyper stability.

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      1. Salacious Sagg’s avatar

        Yeah, I hear what you are saying prowln, I have been on a roller coaster for so long as ye all know and yet I am already getting a tad fidgety with the stability I have had lately! How nutso is that? A hot but stingy ex has just sms’d me and I went aaargh, but am refusing to be drawn in. Am trying to be Saturn Girl…..and resist all temptation! Yawn! Yeah I know! My fingers are singed so I am oh so cautious.

        nat your insights about are tres apt methinks. Thanks muchly for sharing with us so we can glean tid bits for ourselves too.

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        1. xox rockstar libran publicist xox’s avatar

          Salacious – focus on STINGY.

          STINGY rates with LYING & CHEATING – cheap behaviour.

          the ones that REALLY want you will CALL, not text.
          channelling good blokes dialing your number!!

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          1. Anonymous’s avatar

            I agree RLP. Fancy trying to make contact like that by a bloody text msg. Slack As!!!!

            Be careful Salacious Sagg’…. ask yourself honestly what is it you are really wanting???? (and is that what is actually being offered??) And will you die if you don’t get it??? NO, you will not!!!! And, while I am in lecturing mode, remember No Mixed Messages! :)

          2. Anonymous’s avatar

            gawd this anonymous thing shits me… its me nat here logged in and all, but somehow not recognised…

        2. prowlncat’s avatar

          sometimes after a rollercoaster ride SS one needs a bit of hyper stability. It certainly does work in giving one peace. But then you can get overboard with that and become completely stuck, feeling like a rat going round and round the same maze, the same tedious grind. Well at least that’s what my saggy moon, aqua mars and gem asc like to say. But it’s a personal thing and each being must decide the “mix” that works best for them, depending on their personality and circumstances etc. Personally I would stay away from the stingy Ex in your case – up to you of course but my sense is you need a bit more of the stable for awhile.

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          1. Salacious Sagg’s avatar

            Prowln yes this tres sensible – I do need stable. I do tend to leap into situations and get into all sorts of situations. I should do a ful warning forecast with Mystic. It is probably the Scorp Rising in me that likes to play with fire at times. Sigh! What a pity that nunneries are not common these days? I probably would be too noisy and active for them anyway! Will go back to my Sci Books instead! Nothing like escapism.

  17. Leogroover’s avatar

    “it’s no use trying to be conventional. Unless that’s your form of rebellion because you’ve been an insane player all year or something”

    No more talk of cucumbers 9stikcks fingers in ears) I’m trying to rebel and fly right with the most straighest and normal guy I’ve met all year. No more weirding hopefully.

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  18. Ms.’s avatar

    call not text! brilliant!

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  19. Salacious Sagg’s avatar

    ok Nonymous, pray do tell me who you are or are you purposely teasing moi? Methinks it is either nat or LL at another PC somewhere else?

    RLP – : o good grief you have the 6th sense! For you just gave me a nudge that yes indeed, this Ex did cheat and lie AND he was the STINGY Pook around Europe. Ah memories of eating crackers and stale cheese/wilted greens(from the heat not some trendy cooking!) and soggy soft tomatoes on the bed in our hotel room on our last night in Rome….how could I have so conveniently forgotten that????? Thank you, thank you oh Gorgeous ones : > \

    Hang on a sec…” no mixed messages” – it has got to be nat! : > True???

    Non, you are tres correct, I am very much aware of being careful about mixed messages. People can read things totally the wrong way. My just being friendly, is like I am interested in them in a more than friends way.

    I am trying to get used to the fact that I am fine on my own and to stop being so bloody co-dependent – shudder hate the word. But I guess that is what it is as I am so used to bloody well looking after the whole world, loving them, protecting them, rescuing stray animals – 4 legged mainly! :) Arrrgh! I wish I could give myself a good kick in the head! Or my back side to get on with it- with life and stop being wistful!

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  20. Salacious Sagg’s avatar

    Aha nat, so it was you. Hmm maybe log off shut down and try again?

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    1. nat’s avatar

      SS, you picked it before I noticed the error or read your reply! am I THAT obvious… *sigh* Just joking, I am happy to stand by my words that is why get frustrated when I get anonymousized. (it is nat here in case it happens again). Anyway, this is about you SS…

      Time, dear impetuous saggo, T…I…M….E…. its OK to let some pass, espec after what you have been through. It can take a LONG time to get to know yourself again, to heal and to grow a little bit. It is not a race or a competition, even tho the pop media would have us believe it is.

      I think it is brave of you to mention the word co-dependent. I reckon many of us (self included) are a lot more so than we would like to think we are, and it doesn’t make for being a good partner. It puts too much strain on our relationships, in my opinion. So good on you for investigating that concept in relation to yourself SS. Keep going with it. And learn to enjoy just being. And since you are a sagg I would add, just being with a large dose of excercise every day!

      Also, don’t kick yourself in the head, give yourself some of that caring & love that you long to bestow on other creatures… turn it to yourself for a little while.

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