Mad scientists blame time travelers for collider failure
“It was weird enough that scientists said a bird dropping a piece of bread on an electrical substation managed to shut down power to the Large Hadron Collider. Now two respected physicists are blaming that incident on a time-traveling bird, which was said to thwart the collider’s mission of finding the Higgs boson, a particle thought to be the building block that gives everything in the universe its mass.
Bech Nielsen of the Niels Bohr Institute in Copenhagen and Masao Ninomiya of the Yukawa Institute for Theoretical Physics in Kyoto theorize that there’s something so dangerous about the collider, time travelers are coming back to 2009 and sabotaging the experiment. They’re calling it “reverse chronological causation.” That’s right folks, it’s a bird, flying right out of the Time Tunnel, saving the universe. Or could future life forms be trying to keep us from traveling to the stars?
Come to think of it, every time scientists try to capture the illusive Higgs boson, there are inexplicable failures. Twice, in 1993 and 2000, funding suddenly dried up for two separate projects. And then this Large Hadron Collider has had a series of setbacks, including one incident where a physicist was accused of terrorist activity.”
WOW! When some of you guys advanced this theory in the original Large Hadron post, I though maybe-just maybe- some of us are going mega-Bats with the Dark Moon and ALL. Saturn-Square-Pluto is insane unless you change things…BUT THEN I SAW THIS. Scientists! From places such as institutes in Copenhagen & Kyoto as opposed to me sitting here in my sarong in Sydney oh-my-godding at how the hell a baguette-bearing bird could screw up the worlds most expensive and ambitious science experiment EVER….
I am having a day off to do Dark Moonie things – editing photo album etc – but HAD to hop on to go on about this…Thoughts please…
Tags: astrology November 2009, Large Hadron Particle Collider, Saturn Pluto square
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maybe the belgians aren’t the only ones on the horse.
still think it’s time travelling twinkie munchers.
or are there so many people here in the now who are worried about what might happen with the thingie that they have managed to create an entity with their thought forms that is now going forth and sabotaging?
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Hitch Hikers Guide please take a backseat to real life-we have truly arrived at the point where nothing anyone could invent would be stranger or more fantastic than what is Actually happening …
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I’ve never read that book but I do agree the here and now is totally strange and funtastic.
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Told you guys it was a time machine!!!! refer back to mystics post re bread dropping bird for my theory…. hey, maybe i am ahead of my time and not just a blonde air head surfer dude after all….?
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that’s right – it was you who said that originally – can u e-mail me pls?
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O.K.
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I LOVE the idea that we’re sending back saviours from the future to sabotage a machine that kills the world. It must have done something horrendous to the planet when it was switched on, otherwise why would future beings send back thwarters? Ooh, how the mind boggles.
Actually, it all makes me a bit sick-to-the-stomach scared. Sure, experimentation good/ stagnation bad, but… one must really ask these terribly clever folks as to WHY they need to do this experiment that MIGHT destroy our immediate universe and HOW could it possibly help/ advance us? Surely there are other more important discoveries to make with their vast brains and insane funding opportunities? Sigh.
This story has “Terry Gilliam movie” written all over it. Or maybe Michael Moore would put an interesting spin on it?
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Maybe this hideous machine actually does nothing……maybe it`s a gigantic Psy-Ops experiment to telepathically scare the sh*t out of everyone….mind control, etc.
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its life Jim, but not how we know it…but one thing it isn’t is a Dr. Who episode.
We are already time travellers, who have decided to remain unconscious of this fact for reasons only each of us would know.
Being reminded of that via the collider is the real story here.The collider itself can’t destroy us any more than the the millenium bug did.So there is no need to be saved by Dr. Who or anyone else.
Its hard ‘being’ a wave continuum all the time. One must particalise or crystallize into a life form for a while. Astro is the signature of that crystal form, you. The other part of you is every thing else, including, colliders, time travellers, aliens…yep, all you.
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I’m with you David.. Like Bill Hicks said: “We are the imagination of ourselves..”
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Sigh, yes, just like splitting the atom was a bloody brilliant idea at the time too.
Reassuring tho that if their theory is right, a future still exists- & its got birds in it! At least it wasn’t a baguette munching futuristic scientist with genetically enhanced wings flapping about…..or was it!?-
the atom guy was spirituale & into chakras etc strangely enuf – charles ledbeaters theories – humans have to take it apart and see how it works or if davids theories are whats true then humans have to go and make a labour saving device so they don’t have to do it themselves. we’re a freaky species in that way. curiosity killed the cat.
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that’s leadbeater soz – the theosophist
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true about the atom guy but unfortunate that he didn’t have power over what became of his actions…
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unless they’re zombie android birds…more birdie than real bird…
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Or maybe Mystic, above mentioned scientists are fans of your site and got the idea from your readers, thought “Brilliant! Lets go public with this!”
…or Bill and Ted changed their names to Niels and Masao, but don’t want anyone to know their real identity, so they’re just ‘theorizing’…
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have a look at the painting – ‘the baptism of christ’ – theres the hands and the bird – this is where the mysterious bird comes from – god – this means that tom hanks must be on the case somewhere and its audrey tatou who dropped the bread on her way to chanel for a new biocleaner outfit i mean someone has to dust the demm thing hey !
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Some of the greatest whackjobs, in or out of science, are physicists. Take Freeman Dyson, who reckons human beings will ‘evolve’ into immortal, non physical entities that will waft about in deep space for eternity. (Oh Joy)
Some of physics provides models/calculations for understanding reality. A LOT of physics is speculation.
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yah that’ll happen…
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As one cannot venture outside in Adders due to the heatwave & scorching sun, have rented a mass
of DVD’s. PHyscial work causes meltdown at 40 degrees.Just watched ‘The Knowing’ with Nic Cage. Beings came to save some children before Earth was razed by solar storms that destroyed everything.
Tall light beings & ‘flower of life’ merkaba space ships taking certain kids (after giving them white fluffy bunnies) to a new place in the universe.
The movie was full of symbolism. The Beings were called ‘whisperers’.
Well CERN was written about in Dan Brown’s Angels & Demons’ wasn’t it?Should we be sayin’ our prayers
The i open to this topic.
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heartfelt condolences for your weather, pegasus…yuck
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Honey, right now i wish i was a FISH
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this theory must have been floating around for a while…i mentioned the initial post about the machine and how pricey and ominous it was when i was getting my mac set up a couple of months ago…the set up guy told me the time traveller theory and pretty much predicted another glitch…
Those crazy physicists…anything for publicity…i mean travelling back in time just for a bit of attention…hehehe-
What if it`s all a big fake ?….they plant the ” idea” in your mind that they spent “trillions” of dollars on it…when in reality , they did`nt….???
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Ooooh, I like this conspiracy theory, Spirit!
So the whole thing is a sham because the Physicists are working on something much, much worse behind the scenes and this machine is a front to allay the suspicions of governments/ the enemy/ aliens watching us from above…
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Um, remind me who ‘they’ are again?
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the other thought of course is if these time travellers are coming back to save us from the collider, why have they waited till the last minute ? why even let the thing get built in the first place ? in fact why not go back and stop the archduke from being shot in 1913 ? are you with me ?
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hearing peeps talk about physicists being lunatic fringe made me think about the fact that at a molecular level all change happens on the edge not in the centre of the molecule. and how it follows that in many things (science, fashion, technology etc) the centre can often be about what’s already happened not what could. led to thoughts that they (physicists) are like a metaphor for molecules because they’re on the edge of the sciences.
By chance I happened upon someone who is far more interested in this than I am and he told me that in the space they are using to watch the particles collide they have discovered that the freakiest stuff is happening AROUND the collision. The edge is where the actions been at with what they’ve seen so far. I like the microcosm vs macrocosm nature of this scenario the symmetry/symbolism is pleasing that the people on the edge are watching the sub atomic edges.
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Anon, that makes sense.
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LOL yeah sometimes i do
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again I LOL – or maybe you were referring to the atoms and it wasn’t all about me (it seldom is) x
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I believe in the ‘Theory of Anything Can Happen At Anytime Anywhere’ & if we could tune into our DNA
we could go back in time.Movie tally: UnderWorld ‘Rise of the Lycans’
The Knowing
The Westler
& now for Quantam of Solace with Benjamin Button for the midnight show.Latest book: James Hillman’s The Soul’s Code, if sleep impossible after many spiffs (booze not good in
supreme heat), shall read it.
Cool change on Monday, it’s going down to max 30.OMG…i forgot the airconditioned beach shack i have the key too, ha ha ha, silly me, must be brain meltdown or the joke’s on me coz i forgot!
Forgetting you have a beach house to go to is worse than forgetting where you parked the car.Signed ‘the ancient one’
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OMG has anyone gone to the DVICE link mystic put in the post? That magnetic chair looks awesome – I’ve used magnetic therapy (the wacky physicists I hung with forced it upon me) to ward off migraines and it worked for a little while. There was talk of sitting in geodesic domes enhancing the therapy but I passed on that phase of the treatment a dark rooms a dark room I don;t care what shape it is.
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Nastie are migraines, a person really suffers, i have witnessed.
My sympathies for you with them.
Feet in cold water as soon as a sign comes to draw the head blood to the feet just came to me,
maybe one day medicine will discover a migraines a virus like tummy ulcers.-
mine are spinally triggered and also sensitivity to changes in atmospheric pressure/light frequency – can tell if it’s cloudy without even opening the curtains I’m hard wired to the frequencies can smell storms and have smelled eruptions 100s of miles away days before they’ve happened. The pains a fuqer but you should see the shit I see when I’m having one – it’s totally awesome seriously – I can kind of take myself outside of the pain when a big one kicks in and just sort of (hard to explain it) stand outside it and watch. I will try the foot in water thing – the weird thing is if I have a stinking hot bath when ones coming on it seems to draw the blood away from the brain and thwarts it. Nodoz too – they’re sensational if you’ve got plans and a migraines coming on – you have to remember you took them tho otherwise you can be more easily drunk/inebriated and socially inept than usual and unable to work out why.
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I am reading a great book called ‘The Holographic Universe’ which would help people understand just how lunatic some physicists are by the standards of the average Joe… Something along the lines that they have found that particles can be waves at the same time because they are not real physical waves like sound waves, but rather they are probability waves. Probability waves do not represent probabilities of things, but rather probabilities of interconnections. Physicists are saying there is no such thing as a “thing”. What we used to call “things” are real “events” or paths that might become events.
I guess the careless francophile bird was less a thing and more of an event? Yeah, I am just quoting stuff I can barely wrap my tiny mind around.
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Also as regards time/space, Bell’s therorem (1964) supports mathematically the concept that subatomic particles are connected in some way that transcends space and time, so that anything that happens to one particle affects other particles. This effect is immediate and does not need “time” to be transmitted.
Einstein reckoned no particle could travel faster than light, but was wrong, we affect things in the same instant. So these beings that are coming from the future to stop the catastrophe is just a lyrical way to describe the instantaneous connections we have across dimensions and time.
Ick, words make talk of higher planes of reality seem so antiquated but it seems that the reality we perceive is just a hologram of light where the actual reality exists elsewhere and everywhere.
I love this stuff! Especially as the Indian mystics were banging on about this stuff hundreds and thousands of years before any physicist got wind of a particle or a wave, which means we can all access this information with our very own large hadron colliders – our bodies themselves.
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VOILA!
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Hee hee.
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I am totally into this. If scientists are theorising about peeps coming back from the future to save the Earth then there must be something in it.
Life is such a boring piece of sh*t right now I refuse to believe there isn’t something devastatingly brilliant happening somewhere, even if it is in the future…
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A black hole has been discovered in Saggittarius 4, a cluster near the centre of the Milky Way.
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1 piece of pavolova, 1 piece of white chocolate mud cake, 1 melting moment, 2 sausage rolls, countless weird sausages wrapped in pastry morish yummy things and a big bag of chilli baji nibble mix later ….
nom nom nom nom nom ….. mmmmmmmmmmm junk food.
Time travelling bird nanobots come to save the world from mad CERN scientists? …. riiiiiiiigggggght
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This is all bullsh*t—–they could be “telling ” us anything they want…subliminal implanting of ideation…they are fuquing with our minds.
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you tell ‘em spirit!!!
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What concerns me as well is the “cloaking” device stuff I’ve heard about. That’s all we need is for Big Bro to be invisible, but then I venture in some ways they already are….
Time Machines…All I know is if Prowln is taking that food, I’m going where she’s going!
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Big Bro IS invisible according to some clairvoyant friends! Apparently there is routine use of clairvoyant skills in the army and in government (which is to their benefit to discredit in the media). Psychic powers and spiritual qualities being different paths for some this can be a really worrisome thing I think!
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Also check out Google this morning – talk about dark moon weirdness…
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Called Remote Viewing. Atlantean tactics.
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Am talking about as well as someone’s physical presence/weapons and they are invisible. Mad men/nuts will have a hay day.
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Whatever the reason, reading this post on this particular morning really allowed me to shake off any worries and just live for the day.
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So true Virgo Cat.
This morning Mom (no I’m not a teen lol), but just this morning Mom (Leo) set me off and one thing led to another with me (Aries) telling her that further more, I did not care for her to read the morning newspaper as I’m trying to get out the door and it’s full of murder, horrid crimes, etc. I told her who wants to hear that negativity before they start their day when there isn’t anything I can do about it except take care of my corner of the world.
I don’t watch the tv news near as much as well but do keep in touch with stuff.
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This must be quite the week-end to have a row and tussle with mother…!!! (I did as well! ) I agree with you… re: the constant negative vibe thing in the media…..it`s like a steady stream of poison.
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He,he, everything has been quite pleasant except for that and except that ONCE AGAIN I was cleaning and this time she was finding it interesting that I had sweat marks on the small of my back where the crack of my ass begins (through my yoga type pants and, she’s a Virgo Mercury so notices things). Said of course I’m sweating…I’m working and I have sweat dripping down my back five days a week at work and so don’t bring up my sweating OR snoring okay?
I’m cleaning your toilet and I don’t make remarks. She was really only making an observation and dumb I know but when my back is hurting from being on my hands and knees doing baseboards and I’m sweating like a pig, don’t mess with me unless you are willing to die. Told her she always BUGS me one way or the other when I’m cleaning. Guess I’m a freaking spectator sport. “What does a child have to do to get respect?” She said she respected me…..Ah, crazy. I had a 15 second cry release then because my back was killing me! Had a lie down….All better then and day went on as usual..lol
And that’s Aries and Leo for you.
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……” what does a child have to do to get respect ? “……I soooo get you on that !…that has been a life-long struggle for me as well with my mother, the Queen .
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Hey spirit, think we could flip the switch on the time machine and exile irritating peeps to another dimension until we decide to bring them back?
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LOL !
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It is so rare that my passion for science and pseudoscience have the opportunity to overlap with good results. This is incredibly exciting! I don’t even want to begin imagining what may happen if the knowledge of the Higgs boson falls into the wrong hands. The LHC always gets me a bit on-edge re what may happen, but not in the sense that the machine itself will destroy things. More that we will destroy things with the knowledge gathered by the LHC.
Scientists have also found water on the moon! It’s an exciting week for science!
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OMG! Like, a SCIENTIST said something and that just, like, totally gives credibility to a theory. In fact, we start talking about it like IT ACTUALLY HAPPENED THE WAY WE THEORISED IT.
FFS.
Firstly, I doubt that ‘funding suddenly drying up’ is an inexplicable failure. It’s the result of a documented, highly explicable bureaucratic process.
Secondly, there may be some mischievousness to what these two scientists are saying.
Thirdly, there are many many scientists in the world who are well-respected by their peers for the work they do but who also hold other ideas that are considered kooky, to say the least. Because they are fallible human beings, like all of us, sometimes with barrows to push – like we all have from time to time. As an example, Dr Frank Tipler is one of these and you can do a google search to read all about him – a highly respected physicist who has an obsession with proving the existence of god. These guys may be just the same: two highly intelligent people with a penchant for believing in time travel.
There is a really huge leap between a couple of scientists coming forward with a pretty out there hypothesis and us deciding that that is exactly how it must be.
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I read some of Tipler’s ‘The Physics of Immortality’ a while back. It was very very whacked. A lot of speculation and not a lot of science. And he’s hell bent on overlaying an extremely literal idea of the Christian God with a scientific formula for omnipotence. It’s weird when physics and metaphysics get confused.
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Of course, the Hadron Collider is going to malfunction. It’s a machine. Every machine on earth will malfunction at some point (except my mother’s 1965 Sunbeam mixmaster, which has never missed a beat). The bigger it is, the more likely.
This article was in the weekend Australian yesterday, about the unreliability of scientific predictions and the media and economic pressures on scientists to overstate scientific certainty. http://www.the-scientist.com/article/display/56082/
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The Hadron Collider will continue to malfunction.
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Sunbeam must have made ‘em better in ‘65. Not that that bodes well for the Hadron collider.
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For those of who are both spiritually and scientifically minded here is a channeled message from Magenta Pixie about this …..it is a wormhole creator…a gate-way to? anywhere… it appears that the thing will continue to brake down and probably wont be running for some time, until we are ready for it….
Pixie and the 9 speak on the Large Hadron Collider
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it appears that the thing will continue to brake down and probably wont be running for some time, until we are ready for it….
pretty much the usual non commital type statement from one who ‘channels’.
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dear davidl the first link/message that i listed was actually given four days before the Collider was actually first ever switched on the 10th September 2008, so if you could just put your cynism to one side for a minute you might learn something
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Antares, I listened to all 9 minutes 57 seconds of that first message and I have to say that I heard absolutely nothing of any specificity in it. I counted three messages that could be seen to ‘predict’ the Collider not working if that is your point of view:
(1)…the Hadron Collider will in some way be blocked from working…
(2)..so it looks as though something will stop this from happening until the timing is absolutely right…
(3)…I see some kind of block regarding the 10th of September…At no point does Pixie say, “The Hadron Collider will be switched off because X happens…” In hindsight what she does say seems highly predictive, but these statements are fairly ambiguous and open to interpretation, as the messages of all channelers, mediums, psychics, clairvoyants are. If particles had collided and nothing been produced, then the statements above would also have predicted this.
Other than that all I heard was waffle, but waffle at a fairly superior level. I am particularly impressed at the way Pixie picks out scientific words that would appear in the press about the collider, says they’re words that are being fed to her by the spirits, but that she can’t understand them because they’re about scientific concepts beyond her ken. And yet uttering these words gives what she is saying a kind of gravitas.
It reminds me of that classic line from The Secret about how the Law of Attraction works:
“How does it work? Nobody knows. Just like nobody knows how electricity works. I don’t, do you?”
If we aren’t all regarding electricians and electrical engineers as mystical shamen, then we certainly should be!
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