Astro-Beauty: The Emperor’s New Cream?

EArdenEver since i was a CHILD, i have been seeing hype about this thing: Elizabeth Arden Eight Hour Cream. To the extent that i dashed out and spent my newspaper run money on it (and that WAS v.hard-earned money guys, even for a girl with Mars in Virgo).  But i was fuelled with desire for the gunk, having read that it has a cult following, the most effective shit ever used by professional beauties, renowned beauties, society beauties, famous beauties, beautiful beauties, beauties on Mars, whatever.

Even then though – as a teenager & a bit gullible – i was amazed to find out that it seemd to be made up of mostly petro-jelly-like vaseliny stuff, whatever it’s called. And it made me break out + i could not see the point as i though petro thingies not so crash-hot for complexion AND if i wanted vaseline, it’s always there, albeit cheaper.  So the other day, in a mag at a cafe, i see my 70000th reference to the cream being cult-like et al. I have Venus in Pisces and Moon in Libra – is that why this is not working for me?

Oh and if you don’t believe me about it being made up of at least 50% petro-thingie, click on the link above for ingredients.

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  1. year of the fox’s avatar

    I’ve never been into E. Arden’s stuff because it all smells funny…like granny stuff. But there was a time i thought i would die or some calamity would happen if i ran out of lady speed-stick antiperspirant. (I’m a Venus in Virgo) No other brand would do. I would stock up and would always have a new stick ready just in case I ran out. I find it funny looking back those years now that I don’t use any anymore.

    and petro-thingies…suck.

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    1. Leonie’s avatar

      OMG I do that now with Speed Sticks, and always have at least one backup!

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  2. Sweetpea’s avatar

    Got a really lovely set of “Green Tea” lotions, potions, shower/bath, foot stuff on and on, as a gift. Unfortuneatly the second ingrediant on the creams and lotions are “mineral oil” and then about the fourth “petrolatum”.

    Shame. But they match my bath and look nice on the shelf.

    Venus in Pisces and Moon in Libra certainly does deserve much better quality than that gunk Mystic…

    Matter of fact today, caught the young Pisces/ Moon in Libra therapist putting on some eye pencil in her room’s mirror. Told her she was beautiful enough ;)

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  3. Sweetpea’s avatar

    ~ingredients~ Oh, I do love spell check when I use it…

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  4. Baristagem’s avatar

    I used to be obsessed with Elizabeth Arden as a child mainly as my mum & aunts had these types of products. I don’t use it after having read some stuff on what goes in it! Surely there should be laws against this!!
    Speaking of deodorant I am not so fussed in this department as in my industry it is essential to wear good long lasting deodorant! I usually use men’s as it last longer than women’s & it’s fun cause the men loove it. Always being asked what are you wearing you smell beautiful, oh if only you boys knew. Hehehe…

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    1. Sweetpea’s avatar

      One of my patients Baristagem, an older gentleman, about 62/63ish perhaps, always smells so gorgeous and it’s very subtle but wonderful. I’d mentioned this to him several times.

      He brought me the last dribble of his bottle of cologne. “Giorgio”. Gosh I love it and I did wear it too here at home (not at work) as some women do wear men’s cologne.

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      1. Flamenco Fish’s avatar

        Oh! I used to wear Giorgio!! I love it, it’s so gorgeous and smells like freshly washed crisp shirts! I loved it and I’m not a perfume girl. I’m currently working on a list of all the perfumes I have bought and then given away because I can’t get past 5 wears. but Giorgio I loved.
        Now I am on Chanel No. 5. I swore I never would, but that latest promo ad totally had me swooning and now I am totally grokking Audrey whenever I spray. Eau de parfum mind you!! Ouch says the bank account.
        Anyway GO the women in men’s cologne!!
        xx

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    2. nat’s avatar

      That is interesting Barista. I have been trying to find a new deodorant for this summer without much success. I do a lot of outdoor work in my job and also indoors for meetings etc. I have tried just about every organic non-aluminium, non-alcohol thing I can find but they just don’t do the job and the other hard core female deodorants I find WAY WAY too toxically perfumed. But I haven’t tried mens roll ons. Thanks for the idea. In winter time Clarins cream deodorant in a tube is perfect and also good for travelling.

      My Aunty Elsie used to wear EA perfume (Blue Grass I think?) and it always reminds me of her. But she would be beautiful in whatever as she has an innate and refined sense of style. It never smelt overpowering on her.

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    3. Odette-in-Libra’s avatar

      I also don’t go super-natural in the deodorant department. I’d really love to, but the natural stuff just doesn’t work for me in that area, alas.
      I do wear commercial perfumes as well as natural oil perfumes, but over time I’ve gotten more worried & uncomfortable about the ingredients in the synthetic perfumes & am not so inclined to buy a full bottle of them as I used to be.

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    4. Anonymous’s avatar

      ha, I do the same: Old Spice Endurance or summat- smells sharp – and capable!

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  5. saggigal’s avatar

    no mystic lovely its not just you. i think most peoples skin cant actually handle that much chemical warface on le face. and my theory (unproven!) is that peoples skin (and bodies) are getting *more* sensitive to chemicals because we are so overloaded with them now that its reaching like a critical mass. so yah, maybe people in years past could handle what is basically vaseline on the fragile skin, but now- nup. i personally only have ever consistently used one ‘product’ that wasnt herbal/organic etc and that was the Oil of Olay 7 signs of aging one. but im not even convinced it did anything my lovely rosehip oil etc cant do.

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  6. Odette-in-Libra’s avatar

    I like Kiss My Face Peaches & Cream alpha hydroxy moisturizer. It’s cheap & I get it at the health food store, and it’s one of the best anti-aging moisturizers I’ve used so far. (I’ve tried a bunch of the pricey department store ones.)
    When my face gets dry in the winter, I use Weleda Calendula Face Cream for my night cream (also from the health food store) – it’s the only one that doesn’t make the skin around my nose sting when I’ve been blowing my nose a lot.

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  7. Leonie’s avatar

    Gross! I hate anything petroleum-based, including Lucas Papaw Ointment which is often raved about on beauty forums. It made my dry lips drier and I didn’t think that would be possible!

    I’ve never tried the EA 8 Hour Cream but I too knew it has a cult status after reading about it in magazines since I was a child… I used to borrow my mother’s Cosmo issues when she was out at Tupperware parties in the early 80’s. Haha.

    Anyway, I swear Lanolin is the best treatment for dry lips, and the best bit is it’s as cheap as chips – only $5 for a massive tube!

    As for beauty balms, I haven’t come across anything spectacular but rosehip oil is rather lovely to use and one of the few things that doesn’t cause a massive breakout.

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  8. Taurean love expert’s avatar

    I agree, rosehip oil is the ultimate ‘night cream’. I sometimes rub it into my cuticles, and mix a few drops into my body lotion in winter too.

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    1. aquaphobe’s avatar

      use mine as lipbalm…not sure if it was meant for this, but does the trick

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  9. indigofish’s avatar

    i bought a cleanser from madame korner last week out of curiosity (and had run out of fab sukin cleanser) and it wasn’t til after i tried it that i read the label and saw it was mostly mineral oil. my face felt so coated in gunk! i’ve broken out all a section of my face and i suspect there are more to come. so much for their stuff being based on natural products.

    when i was in my early 20’s i used a ponds product on my face. it gave me a bunch of chunky blind pimples which months later gave way to lumps under the skin. took a year for them all to go away. learnt my lesson about products with mineral oil, or at least i thought i had… sob.

    odette – weleda stuff is awesome. been using their salt toothpaste as i have got back into the homeopathic remedies lately. tastes mighty funky but works a treat.

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    1. Odette-in-Libra’s avatar

      indigofish, I’ve never used ponds (thanks for the warning) but I had a bad experience while I was using a Perricone tryout kit – two irregularly-shaped cysts developed on my forehead. (I stopped using the products & didn’t get any more bumps, but the ones that were there didn’t go away. Bleh!)

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      1. scorpalicious robot’s avatar

        that’s really odd Odette-in-Libra, i actually really liked Perricone but only stopped using it on principle – it’s ridiculously expensive!!

        Mineral oil is evil i agree. Through a process of elimination I finally got to the bottom of why i used to get severe eczema on my hands.

        Currently I’m using Aesop facial moisturiser and love it! And the hand cream smells divine!

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        1. Odette-in-libra’s avatar

          Scorpalicious, I know Perricone is really popular & that I may have had an atypical reaction to the products (if in fact it was the products that caused the problem – I’m assuming it was, since I haven’t had that problem before or since, but who knows).
          I haven’t come across anyone else who got cysts while using it, although I haven’t read the makeup alley reviews recently.

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  10. bubble’s avatar

    hey have u tried simples rich replenishing moisturiser myst ? got rave reviews in uk equivalent of choice plus never a pimple with simple – and very realistic price – its at the chemist. v good value.

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  11. MusicalLibran’s avatar

    I have tried and absolutely can’t go without antiperspirant – though I do Redwin Zinc based rather than aluminium.

    But if we are looking at how we come to absorb chemical nasties….unless you are actually eating like your great grandmother did (nothing prepared or packaged, no soy, no margarine, no cheeses that aren’t covered in mould, no confectionary, no junk food, no icecream, no softdrink, no sandwich meats, no packet biscuits, no bread that doesn’t go stale 1/2hr after you’ve cut it- just fresh vegetable, fruit and fresh butchered meat) – then the chemical ‘enhancement’ you are ingesting in your food (and wine) is way worse than anything you are putting on your skin. Unfortunately.

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    1. year of the fox’s avatar

      It’s not just the topical zinc you need. Try eating some zinc. It will make armpit odor go away. It also works better with shaved pits as you have to use more product with hair under there.

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  12. Sweetpea’s avatar

    At a local health food store a few weeks ago, Nature’s Organics products going for .99 a pop. Hair care, shower wash, lotion, hand soap….Normally $7-$10 an item.

    .999999999999999999999999999999999999CENTS!!

    Even natural toothpaste…. .99, regularly $5.00

    Bought tons. Some to give to my girls.

    Supposedly, they got xtra pallets of products they wanted to clear.

    Puttin’ that in my Cappy Moon, Coupon Cuttin’ Pipe and Smokin’ it all the way to the bank!!

    A patient had told me about the special and WITHOUT delay, made a bee line after work for the goods. Ye-ha!!..Like an ape with so many bananas didn’t know where to start…lol

    Use Biotone massage oil to take makeup off. Spritz with water, dry and then tone/moisturize with a Retinol this or that.

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  13. RedlipstickGirl’s avatar

    Dare I admit I loved that Eight Hour cream (OK not the chemicals) – but only when I lived in UK and it was so cold it would parch your skin clean off – it was brilliant when your skin was really windburnt and dry. I think the problem is that it is a really heavy duty moisturiser and a very little goes a very long way – no way I would use it in Australia – let alone Summer that would be a recipe for spots !!!!!

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  14. The Leo Socialite’s avatar

    But the point remains. Vaseline works too. When skiing. Or cold. Why is thing so prized?

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    1. tati’s avatar

      I think the useful thing in it is salicylic acid which removes dead skin. I find it the best thing for lips but I’m in a cold climate – it probably would cause problems in Australia – and I wouldn’t use it on my face, just lips and sore bits of chapped skin.

      Neutrogena does a great hand cream & Bio Oil for face – everything else is pretty much just marketing I suspect.

      Love Paloma Picasso perfume … trying to find an alternative, any ideas?

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  15. Mystic Medusa’s avatar

    I Do love that it has 8 all over it and in Feng Shui, this is the Age of Eight. Other than that, it is the ultimate Neptunian product, with a hype and product aura so far beyond the actual premise of the thing that it is like l’huile de serpent.

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    1. year of the fox’s avatar

      I bet it sells off the shelf in places like China where 8 is associated with “wealth” because it is a homophone.

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      1. Sweetpea’s avatar

        Or, because in China is where they are cranking out the cheap ass products because greedy peeps outsource work…

        Oh never mind, don’t get me started.

        Don’t want to ruin Mystic’s lovely beauty thread.

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      2. Sweetpea’s avatar

        Makes sense Yr of the Fox even though I had to look up homophone.

        Thought it was a cell for E.T.

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  16. pegasus’s avatar

    8..choose Crime Scene on the Cup for a place as it was #8 & won.

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  17. beachgirl’s avatar

    Ah, yes, Elizabeth Arden, was everywhere at home in the 60s and 70s here in New England USA – my mother loved the 8-hour stuff & had jars of it, we girls used it as lip balm and when skiiing, as “bear grease” on our faces to combat -10 F. wind chap when ascending in ski lifts – my grandmother’s linen closet was everything Blue Grass, the soaps, the dusting powder, etc – perhaps it’s all just nostalgia?

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  18. Flamenco Fish’s avatar

    OMG I am so happy with this post Mystic!! I have been also starstruck by the cult phenomena of this cream for years, but have NEVER tried it. I don’t know why. Maybe cos I am an organic beauty addict but for some reason I couldn’t connect with it, and now I am glad you have saved me the $$$ because I think it would make my spirit shrink.
    Incidentally I have now made my own oil blend cleanser – doing the Oil Cleansing Method and I am LOVING it. I have ylang ylang in it too as I think it is a perfect scent for evening.
    Anyway I wonder if you have tried? I reckon you would love! And everyone else here as well, you can magify your own oil with whatever scents work for you, and totally bliss out, good for your skin and no nasty petrochemicals!!!

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  19. Leogroover’s avatar

    I too am a organic beauty product nut (shameles promo here – for Beauty by NAture products produced in home with rainwater and beautiful mountain air of the Lamington National Park) I’ve tried lots of the petro commercial stuff but saw a Choice mag testing and the organic won hands down.

    Its all marketing b* girls designed to scare you into thinking growing old is bad for you . What a lot of crap.
    I’ve never felt better in my life and I’m nearing 50. Yes my skin could be better but i toasted it constantly as a beach babe in my teens so no amount of EA is gonna make it better.
    Comes from within

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    1. scorpalicious robot’s avatar

      couldn’t agree with you more Leogroover – it does come from within!
      I’m turning 45 in two days and i feel fantastic!

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      1. Sweetpea’s avatar

        Happy pre birthday Scorpalish! Love that some of the ladies here are of a certain very well informed, wise age! Not that I always act it myself!!

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  20. davidl’s avatar

    I have only had one EA product in fact only one ‘cosmetic’ and its this one, best thing for skiing, snow and water etc.. my mother gave it to me..cause I deserve it :?

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  21. lilacmess’s avatar

    For deodorant, I actually use Nivea’s new line which works really well. Hell I use one spray a day and that takes me all the way to a gruesome spin work out. All facial products I use are mostly seaweed based from Repechage. & they work w o n d e r s !

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    1. Savannah’s avatar

      I use Nivea as well, hot everyday here for months on end, doing manual labour, have to have a antiperspirant. On Sundays, in winter or after work shower I use Miessence Tahitian Breeze (love the name), according to the website that it is not full of nasties.

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