Self Actualizing Two: Creativity

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Self-Actualizing Trait Number 14: Creativeness

Not surprisingly, Maslow found that, without exception, creativity was more prominent in self-actualizers than in others. However, the creativeness mainfested by his subjects was different from unusual talent or genius as reflected in poetry, art, music or science. Maslow likened it to the natural creativeness found in children. This kind of self-actualizing creativity appears in everyday life as an expression of a personality which is perceptive, spontaneous and child-like. It does not necessarily involve the writing of books, composing of music or production of art objects. It may be humble in nature and can touch virtually all of the person’s activities. Basically, it revolves around the discovery of things new and novel that depart from conventional ideas.”

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33 thoughts on “Self Actualizing Two: Creativity

      • LOL
        The phrase that spoke loudest to me was …spontaneous and child-like
        and actually the humble in nature bit…I find myself being fascinated, and mostly way more excited than is to be expected by little things…and then connecting them to other not usually associated things till there is a mesh of something new.

        Depending on the situation I either get looked at as though I’m completely bats, or get a job offer.

        • same here….though being spontaneous and child like is sometimes the totally wrong non verbal cue. It scares people. Often dominant males are quite wary of people showing these traits, they are not able to be totally under control.

          • My Virgo dad has given me a constant stream of ways to harness that.lol. I keep a lot of the frothy excitement on the inside…my sincerity, and listening skills sort of lessens the fright factor for others.

            I hestitate to ask, because I imagine you can hold your own with any dominant males in your realm, but how do you deal ?

          • The dominant male type..the ceo, the coach, etc..fall into 2 categories for me. Those that are scared of self actualised people and seek to control and of course attempt to put down, like one would a competitor. They think, that you think, that you are better than them.
            The see no value in you, nor who you really are. They are basically scared people.
            Then there are those that use ‘the force’ so to speak of actualised people and can see how by combining groups of these people, in say a work environment, they can benefit and gain power by assisting and helping on the weaknesses.
            I survive in the end by not taking on the first group in any way, I usually retreat, give way, disappear, but never controlled.

          • When I was younger I found it incredibly hard to deal with that first type. Discovering that feeling or knowing that you are not valued used to intimidate me, a lot. To the point that I would almost freeze trying to work out wtf just happened.
            It’s confronting to not be liked or approved of because of who someone preceives you to be…or your perceived lack. I’ve worked on some toning things down a little till I get the lay of the land.

            It’s taken longer to work out how to deal with women that perceive me that way too.It’s often hidden for a little longer under false niceness.

            I have come across that attitude where you can tell they are operating from the mistaken belief that you think you’re better than they are too …or they expect you to be evenly talented in all departments if you are articulate. At the first sign of perceived weakness they’re just revving to pull you down. Hate that…

            It makes such a difference when you can work with people that look at a team as something that can greater than the individuals…and yet appreciates each individual that makes the team.

  1. Well i’m gem and i have all these self-actualizing traits as was psyche tested in the UK particularly for these and other stuff + 360 evaluations +++ a million other tests over 3 days, qualitive, quantative etc – these were conducted to be assessed/accepted onto a senior leadership course at Oxford Uni. I kid you not! i also have the same myer-briggs scores as Barack Obama & Bill Clinton (and Oprah Winfrey apparently). But for all those (apparent) qualities i cannot correctly interpret non-verbal communication … it is almost completely beyond me, if i think there is something ‘off’ i just feel wildly confused … i really can only deal with direct comms so how’s that for a fuq up?! The tests/assessments however, did not pick that up …

      • i’m not sure actually – i’m very conscious of it as soon as i get that ‘confused’ feeling then i get hyper-vigilent which doesn’t help. it’s quite weird feeling – i wonder if other people have it because there’s lots of books abt reading body language etc but it’s never quite the same because they deal also with empathy or sympathy to manage it and i already have those things. i think that some people can just register non-verbal comms and because it’s innate they don’t realise they do it. it’s only when u don’t have something that u realise it’s missing. like after a meeting people have noticed a whole lot of undertones that i am completely oblivious to… it would be handy to have it – i think this a lot of the time.

        • If there was a therapy available, would you take it up, or do you feel you manage well enough?

          I’m asking because this problem is recognized within the autistic spectrum, including asperger’s syndrome. I don’t know a lot about the therapies for those disorders, but I do know that some therapy involves training the patient to recognize non verbal cues.

          • i think i manage it but i am def going to read more about it. these comments have really been v helpful in a sort of ‘dawning’ way so thanx 4 that

          • With more information I think you’ll be heartened to find out how many people have a similar condition and it would be interesting to find out how they go about managing it. I guess it’s worth looking into therapy if you feel it disadvantages you professionally or interpersonally. Good luck!!

        • If you have extreme skills in one stream sometimes the others are a bit more vulnerable. Uber mentions a spectrum disorder could be possible..I reckon we are all on that spectrum somewhere. Love who you are, and find ‘partners’ in life, business and pleasure, that help you protect your vulnerabilities. Being oblivious to undertones is a blessing, any schmoozer can pick up the undertone, you be the overtone and cut through the crap, like you illustrious MB fellowship.

          • davidl is right on! My daughter (with a packed Aquarian 5th house INCLUDING Uranus) is uber creative and a total self-actualizer, but falls in the Asperger’s end of the spectrum, especially in her inability to read social cues (or care about them, for that matter). Yet she defies the common stereotype of the disorder by needing to connect and communicate with others a LOT (Moon in Gemini, Libra rising). This is a confusing package for people who expect her to embody her diagnosis. So I’m re-educating those around her ALL THE TIME.

            She’s teaching me a lot, too. As someone with Libra SN, I could use more practice at ignoring undertones and moving on with my own thing! Count yourself blessed when you encounter people who turn out to be vampires; you’ve failed to take the bait coz you can’t smell the bait!

          • weathergirl, I know a speech pathologist who gets frustrated at times with the inability of some therapists to recognize the nuances within the spectrum. i.e. that it’s called a spectrum precisely because of the diverse manifestations within it, while some diagnostic & therapeutic approaches lack flexibility — take a black and white view .

            Wow a 5th house Aqua stellium. How awesome!

        • O just found this thread jengem – I too have had the mega tests MBTI EQ IQ etc and on and on 100s of questions – and the thing I realised was there’s no getting away from who you are – you just have to accept it and surround yourself in others who are able to accept you as you are and when they inevitably find it challenging at certain points in the relationship are able to approach you in a non confrontational way realising it’s not about them. Frustrating though it may be.

          Do you have trouble in social situations? If so did they tell you the percentage of the population who is likely to be similar to or compatible with you? I found that to be a good gauge of how expectant I should be that there will be someone in the room who I will be able to relate to in a relaxed convivial way. My experience of the tests and subsequent realisation that I am def not like everybody else is that it has helped me to simply move on without putting in unnecessary effort into those who are not relevant to my needs socially or professionally – and that is not in a manipulative way, more a “well I can see this is going nowhere so rather than struggle through it in a socially gauche fashion I’ll move on” kinda way. Before I would struggle to try and work out how it all worked and adapt to uncomfortable situations now I just know whatever it is isn’t for me and don’t linger. In a professional situation it happens less because I susect many of the peps I work with are of similar or parrallel “types”.

          I love Myers Briggs – it’s nice to hear someone else’s experience of them peeps sometimes don’t like talking about it – I hope it all falls into place for you.

  2. Wow, thanks Mystic. Have bookmarked that self actualization page. In fact, I think I’ll print it out. It’s super inspiring. Perhaps I’ll print out the hottie with the paintbrush as well.

    • regarding above: it IS awesome! Except I have that same Aries ruled 4th as you, so the piles of debris left from her frequent creative frenzies always challenges my need for clear, uncluttered physical space. I’m learning to cope, though! And she’s learning to clean. (Must be able to find the scissors for the next project, yes?) :-)

  3. I always thought that Uranus was the go-to planet for self-actualization…..independent, revolutionary, iconoclastic, fresh

  4. Aquarian or significant Uranus placement, Gemini for childlike fun. These people will be different if you are coming from the perspective of self-actualization. Doesn’t Sanskrit have a term for such a person? Yogi or Guru? Some people may react to you as a threat or a lesser person because that is how they react to people who are different. When a person has a spectrum disorder with ‘undertones’, I ask what about the overtones? Are we talking about frequencies? If so, then the person with a spectrum frequency disorder can’t pick up on a broad range of signals. They can only interperate certain bands of frequency/knowledge/experience. That could seem quite different to people with a broader range. However, some people with Aquarius,Unranus, can tap into another system fairly easily, especially if they have realized they are self realized. Our western system doesn’t really have names or titles for those of us at that point but Sanskrit does. It helps to know this.

    • It def helps to know that other people have it – i might do some more reading abt it actually. It doesn’t affect me day to day with people i know and who know me – they just think i am quirky & at times outspoken. I am friendly & outgoing altho i am introvert. The feeling of confusion is similiar situation to an untuned radio. I know that something is there but i get a lot of static/interference and the ‘signal’ doesn’t come thru to me properly even though i can hear/feel the disturbance. It can be pretty frustrating because of course as soon as i feel it i lock onto it. And completely repress it – the other part of my mind is concentrating on the biz at hand so i just come off as unresponsive. Thanks v much for comments because i am going to some research on this. Much appreciate the sharing.

      • JenGem, thank you for sharing – I have Gemini friend who has a spectacular case of oblivious foot in mouth, which I normally handle really well, but on Saturday evening she let rip about something very close to my heart, expressed many opinions with out much analysis, or even recognition that what she was saying could very easily be interpreted as a querying of my ethics, with the assumption I was out for all I can get. I handled it all really well in the instance, but have had to spend much time this week really giving myself empathy, and recognising that this friend is totally oblivious to the impact of her words and opinions on the people around her. Reading that you can be unaware of non-verbal cues gave me an a-ha moment just now, as this friend is gifted and intelligent – but very unaware, and locks out anything ‘not normal’ – like astrology etc… basically we’re polar opposites – which I cherish as it allows me to expand my world view, and hopefully the same goes for her, and now reading your challenge with non-verbal clues etc allows me to empathise more with her, as I know she is challenged in the workplace by the more empathic side of her role – and she’s been called on it recently… Unlike you tho – I don’t think she’s verbalised the ‘lack’ (is it?) she has, to herself, or to others. You’ve contributed to my learning, and I thank you.

        Oh, and there was a Catalyst program in the last few months about spectrum disorders and training people with them to recognise non-verbal cues, and non direct communication….

        • thanx will check the Catalyst program. re yr gem friend if u r ever in a similiar situation, really the best response is to not be reticent yrself but be brutally direct abt what she is saying & how it affects you like ‘u r really starting to hurt my feelings’ – an ‘i feel’ statement is something that she will so totally get. and prob be quite concerned that she might have hurt u. the one pos thing abt the ‘lack’ of non-verbal is that u r not inhibited by yr own feelings or defensive abt others feelings. ie i find it simple to be genuinely sorry for causing hurt, am ready to apologise for my part in misunderstandings and able to quickly build the bridge and not cling to emotional flotsam/jetsam, i move on from conflict fast … she is prob the same. i am only realising abt filtering out going boundary-type stuff myself since i turned 40 so perhaps she will get there also (re the work wake up call have had some of those). it’s great to have different friends – my friends know that if they ask me, i will tell them, and they value that. tho i don’t tell them unless they ask (learned) i have been in yr friends situation before (quite a few times). tho i have had the same friends for nearly my whole life …

        • Pomoscorp, and Jengem,
          I definitely used to (still can) fall into the gem foot in mouth category. Though my friends would more nicely describe it as blunt. And have definitely been called on thoughtless waffling of opinions, that I have not necessarily even believed, without thought of their impact.

          PMS – being called on it had a big effect on me (by my client no less, gees), and in combination with other stuff, like just getting older, I’ve definitely gotten a lot better at that. Perhaps she’d appreciate a heads up?
          At times to I wonder if it is in part a failure to recognise that people actually listen/pay attention to you? I certainly have held a ‘what i am saying isn’t really important/interesting no-one is really paying attention, thus what i say doesn’t matter’, view of myself in the past.

          JenGem – whilst I wouldn’t claim to be in your situation, I have certainly found that by starting to think (and feel) more about non-verbal interaction that I’m getting better at paying attention to it (ended up doing research in the area – in fact funnily – my phd research is like a bringing together of all my social strengths/flaws in a how does this work way). Yes there is a heap of stuff of teaching body language reading skills to autism/asper kids – but also heaps of more general things in sociology on public social interaction – describing how we move about in public space – things like civil inattention (Erving Goffman), which is the way that we ignore those around us – etc etc. An alternative way to look at that kind of stuff, depending on what type of theory floats your boat.

          best wishes to both of you.

          • JenGem & shell – So true what both of you say – I have in the past pointed out when the opinionating gets a bit much, or heads into thoughtless territory, and I usually enjoy the bluntness with which her world view is delivered – this just touched on a really tender issue – and highlighted a few frustrations I’m having – so all my realisations from you both just illuminate the areas on which I need to work, which are currently being manifested / illustrated through this friendship. I also somehow managed to have a Saturn Return a-ha moment triggered by this conversation related to the challenge presented by my friend! So major gratitude to you both – its been a great teaching / learning moment. And thanks to Mystic for just being, and giving so much, and for this post!

  5. In the book ‘Conversations with God’, it was asked what does ‘he’ want us to do?
    The answer was ‘create create create’.

  6. I find it so extraordinary that as human beings we can survive on so little & that we do not feel the second need until the first one is met. Self actualization is the ultimate goal!
    Maslow’s theory is fascinating & as human’s we have the inner resources for growth & healing. This has been proved my Rogerian psychotherapy where the therapist role is to act as a facilitator & allows the client to examine their thoughts & to arrive to their own conclusions. I do like this approach as it helps to be honest about your life & finding solutions to be happier rather than just sloshing around negative thoughts when we are really meant to keep moving UP the hierarchy of needs. Thanks Mystic, great post!

  7. This has been a great thread. So interesting to read about your adult challenges, JenGem. You’ve helped me anticipate some future possibilities for my own child.

    Just put my girl to bed, but before we spent a few minutes talking through a Calvin and Hobbes cartoon. There were no words and my girl couldn’t figure out why Calvin’s mom was angry. That was fun –Loads of learning opportunities there for the non-verbal stuff.

    Good luck to you!

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