What We Learned From That Full Moon…

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I know that native cultures have a lot of cool names for Full Moons, the Native Americans in particular.

But I always think of the September (sometimes late August) Full Moon in Pisces as the Plutonic Moon. It’s always in Pisces, obviously, and it’s also always at the time Pluto is about to go Direct or just HAS gone Direct. The combo of Pluto, the Sun in mission-oriented Virgo and a sudden Piscean blast of surreal whimsy equates to in-your-face, unable to be ducked realisations about your life. But they’re so practical…Mutable Energy (Gemini, Sagg, Pisces, Virgo) always has something to do, someplace to go…

Anyway, as this last Full Moon echoed the Saturn-Uranus Opposition peaking in September and next April, whatever realisations you had in the last few days are like…I was going to say gold but is that still perpetually bankable in these early days of Pluto in Capricorn? The realisations of the last few days will prove MEGA relevant and resilient – cherish them…Even if at first they seem minute.

So, who cares to share?  Full Moon Realisations; deep, shallow, macro, micro – they are all so relevant for the next nine months…

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  1. Leonine Librarian’s avatar

    At the moment they do some minute. Yet there are shadings of more.

    Spent some of last night talking with my Virgo sister who thanked me for listening to her for years about a challenging employee..(as in if I hadn’t unloaded that shite I would of not handled so well with the rest of the world)…really deep sort of thanks. Which makes me feel pretty good, because quite frankly a lot of the time she seems so bloody efficient…it’s sort of nice to know that she really appreciates my support.

    We discussed some realisations I had re:leo ex…even though it’s years ago I took a hell of a hit to my confidence with that. Some reading I’d done earlier that night gave me insight into just how many ways I’d tried and just came up empty. That while it takes two to tango, I had done my absolute best. I’ve done a lot of work on myself over the years and I think I have a deeper level of knowing myself, and accepting my good, bad and ugly…the instincts, the inclinations, the dark and the light…and am just feeling pretty hopeful for the future.

    So some of the stuff is familar but lit a bit brighter.

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  2. Damons22/jan’s avatar

    With last night being the first real decent sleep ive managed to have in 45 days after 10200 kilometers travelling in a tiny suzuki jimni 4×4 , sleeping in a two man tent exploring the west coast of oz from Perth to Broome via the whole coast (AWESUM) then a mad dash across the top to Townsville popping up the other side through the cane fields of north Queensland a couple of days in Airlie Beach then on the return to Brisbane after a magical trip, having a huge screaming match with my reunited first love (whom i had been travelling with after not seeing her for 17 years) I was hartbroken once more after she told me via txt msg that it was over , never wanted to see me again and said she would never love me. Visited me today and apologised , said she loved me , wanted to persue a relationship with me grow old together and raise a family , i go to sleep tonight a happy , calm, content , grateful man. In all the mixed emotions and crazy energy around the last three days i didnt even notice the full moon approaching until i walked down to the beach after dusk this evening and saw the beautiful big bright yellow full moon beaming down on the tranquil sea. Lets hope its a sign of things to come , ive had enough for a while…..

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    1. nat’s avatar

      Nice to see you again Damons. Sounds like you’ve had a wild journey in all senses! Hope it goes well for you both.

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    2. Champagne Bearing Aquarian’s avatar

      Hey Damons, good to hear from you! It may be a 22/Jan thing, but ex Mr CBA has been in and out of my home (and heart) the last 2 days wanting to try again, then not, then wanting – it’s all up in the air as we speak. More importantly, the realizations we’ve all come to about ourselves are to be cherished. All the best for the 2 of you.

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  3. Damons22/jan’s avatar

    Oh and btw i learned so much about myself the last few days and weeks , like it could have only come from her mouth , i told her things about her that only a true friend would tell another friend and she did the same for me it was like looking into a mirror , a female version of me . Im so grateful for this and although we both let it all out in a blind rage of hissing and spitting it had to be done and thank god for that , some one had to do it!

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    1. whatever’s avatar

      I wondered what happened to you and how it all went down – you two obviously have some kind of pre-destined journey to make together (still!) sounds like you might need to strap yourself in for the ride damons :o )

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  4. sun Pisces, moon Aries, Leo rising’s avatar

    Ok, well last night I separated from my Leo husband.

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    1. not-so-virginal’s avatar

      sPmALr, hope everything works out for you. that is a very big realisation to come to indeed!

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      1. Sweetpea’s avatar

        Oh wow, Pisces/Ar Moon/Leo Rising,

        If it’s what you really wanted and will be happier in the long run, good for you, but hope you are okay. I can’t imagine an Aries Moon staying in a situation if they are not truly happy. I just posted elsewhere that my Sagg Sun/Aries Moon co-worker broke it off with her guy because she said she had not been happy for a long time.

        As for my big Full Moon realization, between naps, went over my budget and it’s TIGHT until next spring…Yikes.

        Okay, but do love a good challenge (Aries :) ) and good thing Cappy Moon can be frugal if need be…

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    2. nat’s avatar

      Sun Pisces, Moon Aries, Leo Rising, that is a big development. Hope you are OK. Take it as slowly as you need. Just do one day at a time, you will be OK.

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    3. whatever’s avatar

      FUQ that’s a sentence… I can’t imagine what that feels like so there’s nothing to say because it will just sound lame – but I do know when the shit goes down a bach flower essence can assist in any situation – star of bethlehem on its own or rescue remedy which is a mixture may be of assistance to you and the moment if you can find the inclination/energy/motivation to find these somewhere.

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      1. whatever’s avatar

        that was meant to be “at the moment”

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      2. Champagne Bearing Aquarian’s avatar

        Thinking of you and sending strength your way.

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  5. Constance’s avatar

    I as an Aquarian/Gem/Aries moon/Pisces venus, came to a realization about the Scorpio man I love. I feel out of my element with him all the time, altho’ I never admit it to him because of his sizeable ego. I actually felt it was over (AGAIN) and not only that but I might want to move back to the other coast where I lived most of my life. I told him that. He understood, or so he said. I have never felt so overwhelmed by any man before.

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    1. sun Pisces, moon Aries, Leo rising’s avatar

      This really resonates with me, as I am desperate to move back to the other side of Oz where I am from.

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    2. Savannah’s avatar

      Sometimes putting a bit of physical space can help you see something/one with more clarity.

      Overwhelming men are …..gawd….I dunno, just extricating myself from one so there hasn’t been that space & time to offer any real insight. He Libra, had a lot of Scorp & Virgo in his chart.

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  6. zlatni’s avatar

    I am natally virgo sun (1st house) – pisces moon (7th house), so its always an interesting one for me.

    I had a low key night with friends, then just one of those quiet realisations while in a taxi going home – that I actually am in love or at least completely infatuated with someone i’ve been seeing on and off for a few months.

    It’s complicated, as facebook would say, him a lot older & coming out of a very long relationship. I’ve been staying quite rational with the whole situation but then in that small moment just realised how intensely I actually felt myself. So honoured that within & it felt like quite a profound shift..

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  7. crabilicious’s avatar

    it just took me up another octave, at least, that is what it felt like or I ate too many lentils!

    sun Pisces, moon Aries, Leo rising

    best wishes to you!

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  8. starstrokes’s avatar

    Desiderata has more relevance than ever…

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  9. sassy’s avatar

    I am in love with two women, one who i’ve been with for years, one i’ve only known for a few months and not developed into anything yet.
    Last night while going to sleep i realised why i have felt so conflicted, my fears, all the potential risks and losses, and really, the essence of my feelings.

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    1. Jen Scorpio’s avatar

      Sassy, are you sure you are in love with the one you have only known for a few months? Don’t mistake the sex haze for love. It’s a great place to be in but please remember that it is a veil and it is a time when what we think about someone is often a projection of what we want them to be or what we need them to be, not what they actually are. You may will be spot on, but beware the sex haze.

      Like I said it is great and totally cool to be in the middle of it, but please see it for what it is. True love is when you know exactly what someone’s faults are and they don’t matter because you can still see the good things that got you looking at that person in the first place, and this realisation is returned to you. It can take years to get to that point with someone.

      I guess I am saying this because I just had someone turn me over for the allure of the sex haze with someone else. We knew each other, or rather had known each other for years. It was a bit of a bitter pill to swallow and I am trying to come to terms with how much we have both missed out something special and realising that I need and deserve someone who is a ‘great man’ not just a good bloke.

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      1. sassy’s avatar

        Thanks Jen, Yep, i know, it’s definitely in my mind. But really, it is pushing me to really face the questions that i have been denying about my current relationship and too afraid to deal with. I don’t know if i’ll end up with this other person or stay with my current girlfriend, but it has brought up things that needed to be, which is a good thing really!!

        I’m sorry to hear of your experience, it sounds as thought you’re pretty aware of the fact that things could be better though, i hope it works out for you.

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    2. Ms pip’s avatar

      Oh Sassy this is how affairs develop and continue when we take away our emotional energy from the first relationship.
      How would you be able to rechannel your energy back into your first relationship of years and give it the effort ? This will be painful no doubt either way. Good luck

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      1. sassy’s avatar

        Don’t worry, i’m not going to have an affair. It has given me insight into what and how i need to ask for what i want in my relationship

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  10. sun Cap asc Virgo moon Pisc’s avatar

    how’s this for full moon kismet (or weirding?):
    so, I’m now living on the other side of the world.
    a few months ago my brother rings and tells me about a high school mate (from 20 years ago) living here too. I contact him via email. On June 15 he calls me. On August 20 (one month after July21 eclipse) we meet. Yesterday Sept4 full moon, he declares that he’s leaving his wife, and to wait for him.

    serendipity or strange? what happens next?
    I reckon he’s scorpio.

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    1. Champagne Bearing Aquarian’s avatar

      Woah!

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    2. Ms pip’s avatar

      Whoa girl be in control off your destiny. This country has seen the fallout of affairs – which often signals problems within a marriage and a desperate alarm call to action.

      Generally the next relationship after separations do not work out…more about cartharsis. You deserve someone totally emotionally unencumbered!

      Find a great single man who has some distance from a relationship break-up and some insight and ownership on the problems.. Beware the person that blames others as this is what they will do to you!

      Relationship responisbility is a true note of integrity and empathy – good traits to aspire too:)

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    3. Jen Scorpio’s avatar

      I reckon he’s trouble. Be very very careful. And do not under any circumstances wait for him.

      Sorry

      Jen

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      1. sun Cap asc Virgo moon Pisc’s avatar

        I told him not to contact me. And that I wasn’t prepared to be the rebound. That was ultimately my full moon realisation – all those rebounders. I’m staying away from them. thanks for the very good advice.

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  11. katey’s avatar

    Yes i just had a really practical realisation as I woke up this morning, dribble on sheets style: you cant please everyone (all the time but you can please some people some of the time) obviously i have heard this before but this time it means something really personal, really deep and really profound

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  12. william’s avatar

    “sometimes you just change plans, it’s okay”

    the word “mantle”

    better to come in second, then you are still trying hard
    #1 will probably just relax after winning, number 2 is better–

    also some apparent contact with afterlife…. “we are here”

    peace…. “be still, know that I am God..”

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    1. whatever’s avatar

      you always make me smile william

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    2. Lexicon Limbo’s avatar

      I like the way your mind works William :)

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      1. william’s avatar

        hey, thanx

        it’s like, you sort of know, you pick up on bits of
        synchronistic messages that seem to come thru
        and you know because of previous experience…

        I think so, … pretty sure,

        definitely getting something, at minimum an intense
        mood out of the blue and very spiritual like…

        thought it was just pisces didn’t realize pluto involved,
        definitely received from pluto (always amazing..)

        “the bones” … very familiar with pluto’s influence,

        got crucified by him last MAy with a lot of other people too I think

        upside down crucifiction….during earthquake…. you know pluto when
        he is there…

        (but I am fond of pluto…in a strange way,… truly affection for this..)

        pisces- always so mystical… whoa… trippy…

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        1. whatever’s avatar

          your upside down reminds me of the hanged man card & seeing things from a diff perspective

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  13. waitwatchwork’s avatar

    With no concrete reason for feeling this way, without having concrete plans for the future (a biggie for my Cap Sun & Virgo Asc), I am completely at ease with myself. And furthermore, I feel I’m exactly where I’m supposed to be and things will fall into place when they’re meant to. It’s a nice change of pace. I hope things get better for those of you who are having a rough go. Life can be such a bitch, but you have support here. :-)

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    1. Lexicon Limbo’s avatar

      I’ve got nothing. Nada. Niente. I’m just happily skating along….remarkably unaffected ?!?!?! After reading the posts here, I guess I am lucky I am single & not having to go through such heartbreaks. Mental hugs to all having a hard time & as waitwatchwork said above, there is such fantastic support here, I’m constantly blown away at how amazing some people are.

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  14. aquasun.scorprise.leoluna.’s avatar

    Since feb 08 my emo-bootcamp lifetheme has been ‘learn to spot and avoid “time wasters”‘ [charismatic but deceptive, confused men armed with heavily-ego masked insecurities and empty promises... you know the type!]. it has taken until NOW to recognise the trail of disappointments left in the wake of unfortunate lunacy of being attracted to these numskulls!

    last night had the opp to take up with one very handsome charismatic timewaster but flatly refused his advances on the basis that i’d FINALLY had enough of his type. hello new page! only realised this today, and am so bloomin grateful for the confusion of the past few months, the moon, mystics posts etc! wow!

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  15. Champagne Bearing Aquarian’s avatar

    Well, apart from ongoing r’ship weirding with ex-Mr CBA from Sat, had odd experience on Fri when “date” who I could have sworn was a Taurus turned out to be a Pisces.

    I digress. Big full moon realization along the lines of the poem in the earlier post and also that it’s not about how things “should” be, but more about honouring the values that are helpful and positive to me in creating a compassionate and meaningful life and ignoring other peoples’ absolutist, black and white view of the world.

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    1. nat’s avatar

      Lovely full Moon insights CBA! It is all about living our own personal values and being a true expression of that to ourselves. Good luck with the yo-yo-ing Ex Mr CBA. Hold on to your self and your new found insights girl! Wonder if the Pisces has a Taurus Rising?

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  16. whatever’s avatar

    I realised Mystic that with the help of your consults/star maps to guide me I have negotiated some interesting times – nothing seemed that huge as it was happening – I just took it all in my stride and dealt with things one by one but I suspect as I look back over this curious time in years to come I will realise this was a dramatic turning point. All those little things will exponentially spiral I suspect. Fibonacci styles.

    I’m going to spend the next week collecting things that are symbolic of what I am setting free from my energy field and I’m going to send them off in a rituale. But right now I am going to hunt down the neighbourhood ABBA lover and hopefully get away with murder…

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  17. Savannah’s avatar

    I’ve learnt that others are not on the same evolutionary stage that I’m enjoying lol and it’s turning out to be quite lonely.

    How I got to this realisation is that assorted mixture of friends & family, have been confiding their same problems & fears, the same one’s they have been refusing to face for, sometimes, YEARS. It’s been like frikkin’ groundhog day, I’ve lost my patience with all of them & bleated out some truths & WTF are YOU DOING about all this. I don’t mind doing the guidance & sympathetic gig but when there’s nothing but inertia from them. I just don’t understand! Some of their problems are quite intolerable yet they labour away not even trying to make their lives more enjoyable/tolerable/happy. Every opportunity to do something is ignored yet the opportunity to wallow is pounced on. I just don’t understand it all sometimes, half the time its just fear & thats something that can be used to advantage at times or kicked in the shins.

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    1. Savannah’s avatar

      p.s. none of them are dealing with their own or a loved one’s mortality or sinister illness. Not even a life changing event really.

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  18. Baristagem’s avatar

    Full moon realisations; I am no clearer about a matter however I am very clear I am confused about this & that’s ok.

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    1. nat’s avatar

      Your ‘matter’ sounds like a work in progress Baristagem! At least you have some insight on how you feel about it, and enough awareness & honesty to say where you are up to. To me it sounds like you are staying with it while it unfolds, being your real self and not running away or blaming others. That is a lot don’t you think?!

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      1. Baristagem’s avatar

        Your right nat! I am in fact trying to have an honest relationship with my life & this is all part of the process. Thanks nat, you are very helpful! :)

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  19. nat’s avatar

    I think I made a complete hash of that full Moon! I stayed of the booze, but was still too emo’ and over tired from the Mars-Mercury stuff during the week and felt overwhelmed. I woke up at 2am on Saturday just before the Moon was full and felt much better after an hour or so sitting up in bed listening to the rain. Have had more clarity and insights after the event.

    Interesting that you think of this Full Moon in Pisces the Plutonic Moon Mystic. I plan to salvage some Pluto style insights from what is bubbling up, in time for Pluto direct.

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  20. MMIL’s avatar

    Wasn’t going to post this, but since relationship revealations seem to have been the biggest outcome of this full moon, it’s now relevent.

    Last week caught up with a friend who I haven’t seen in a few months. Known him six months and we have been ‘dancing around’ each other the whole time. A day later, in the first true move of getting personal, he reveals he is recently divorced (why is this the big theme now?) and a few painful details behind it. Massive, massive step for him. It got a bit awkward for a few days, but within an hour of the full moon things started getting proper sexy! Nice (and now for all the impossible logistical issues, errrr)!

    Shout out’s to all the people having a hard time, especially ’sun Pisces, moon Aries, Leo rising’, as harsh as it sounds you aren’t the first person to go through this so that means that there is a good chance there will be someone here with a solution for every issue. At the very least we’ll have your back.

    Much love.

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    1. sun Pisces, moon Aries, Leo rising’s avatar

      Thanks

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  21. shell’s avatar

    That i feel a lot better/brighter/stronger when I do what I want to do, rather than what I think I should do because of the opinions/presence of other people.
    That I still need to work on my reflex nervousness actions.
    That I miss the person that I recently may have freaked out, perhaps because I wasn’t able to control my reflex nervousness actions. I’m hoping its not a missed opportunity, for learning/growing etc.

    That I need to move on from my past to get moving from my future.

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  22. seabird’s avatar

    Yep. Yesterday morning I woke up secure that I was right. yesterday night, while brushing my teeth and looking in the mirror, something fell apart and i saw my own hand present in all the difficult relationships i have with family, friends and lovers. And calmly, without blaming myself, I saw what i do, and how wrong i often am, and how hard i railroad people, and how hard I push to get my own way, at my own time. My self belief is often arrogance, my moral arguments are often used to belittle others, my time frame is not that of other people and what they do is not my business. And how I actually can stop doing that now, now that I’ve seen it, just by stopping it. So I’ve stopped. But this was not minor, although I was tempted to dismiss it because it all came up in the time it took to brush my teeth. This is flipping enormous. I am going to watch myself calmly now.

    Incidentally, I have been doing long-held yoga poses, really gentle strecthy ones, for the last week, working on areas that I always thought were too painful to go near. It turns out, that if you let go and breathe, and slow right down, it’s all easy. Do we create our own concept of time, and pain? I think we do. Maybe we can slow time time by slowing ourselves down. I don’t even feel emotional, I just feel very calm, like I found the door, opened it, and walked through. Alhamdulillah.

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    1. nat’s avatar

      Seabird, your honesty in naming your part in problems is astounding and humbling. As Mystic says above, brief yet profound realisations at this time are like gold, and yours sound very much so. I don’t even know you but I feel proud of you! So much Saturn symbolism in there too – teeth, time, slow work, taking responsibility. Wow. Thanks so much for sharing your inspiring revelation with us.

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    2. scorpalicious robot’s avatar

      yeah… awesome realisations seabird! You bet it’s “flipping enormous”
      Thanks for sharing. :)

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    3. Savannah’s avatar

      Thanks Seabird. So beautifully said though no doubt painful, I admire your guts.

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    4. Leonine Librarian’s avatar

      I find it interesting that in Yoga you worked on areas you always thought were too painful to go near and it’s easy and also you have made what I imagine would be huge insights into your relationships (making connections that could for a lot of people be painful, and not approached easily) and yet you’ve gone there and it’s good. Yay you.

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  23. matthew-minerva’s avatar

    LOL I WAS AT A SWEET 16TH BIRTHDAY ON THE FULL MOON – and it was AMAZING LIKE FUQING AMAZINg!!!!!
    I REALISED THAT YOU CANT FORCE PEOPLE INTO DECISIONS – THEY’VE GOTTA DO IT THEMSELVES AND THAT A CERTAIN FRIEND (who btw is SMOKING HOT!!) ACTUALLY HAD A CRUSH ON ME!

    We all ended up on the balcony and there was liek 50 of us – and tehy just sat there listening to me tell them bout the moon and the stars and everything – AND btw this was a costume party so im there like BOB MARLEY talking to like 5 naughty nurses, batman, wonderwoman a hobo and like 40 others – and it was amazing and then Spin the Bottle Came, as did 7 minutes in heaven and all this other tweeny games that we played for fun!

    it was fun btw ;)
    matt

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  24. Anonymous’s avatar

    Go Matt!!!!!

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    1. matthew-minerva’s avatar

      lol thanks!

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  25. sun Pisces, moon Aries, Leo rising’s avatar

    I just want to say thanks to everyone who sent their support and love my way. Yes like so many before me, I am going through something that is painful, and I thought the hardest part was taking the step to say enough is enough after a very long time of knowing that all was not well. Now I realise a day or so later that the hard part is only just beginning. It is so hard letting go of security and stability, but if that is all I was holding onto then it is not worth it.
    I have 2 very small children which makes the journey rougher.

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    1. nat’s avatar

      hon’ it sounds like the former version of “security & stability” may have been becoming a prison or preventing your growth and joy in some way? The real foundations of security & stability are inside you, and you will feel so good when you re-connect with them, even if you are a bit wobbly starting out! I put this lovely quote here a few weeks ago: all the strengths we need are inside of us – they come to life when we put them into practice. There are many forms of support out there to help you too. All the best to you and your little ones.

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    2. whatever’s avatar

      Having been through this a few times as a child just know that your children will thank you for it later and even if it takes them til they’re adults in their own relationships they will see one day that it was a profound and brave choice to make no matter what happens from here on. The bach flowers work wonders for kids especially.

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  26. saggigal’s avatar

    i realised where i have still have deep wounds from the past affecting the present and i resolved to really deal with them rather than wake up in 10 years time knowing nothing had changed. i did reiki, meditation and cried some long overdue tears. then felt far more peaceful. facing the darkness was tres plutonic; the (initial) healing- piscean! but i know i face some hard work in staying aware and responsible for my emotions as they’ll reemerge again.

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    1. nat’s avatar

      good to see you again saggigal. like you, many people seem to have had really big/deep insights this full Moon. I find everyone’s honesty & bravery in facing their changes really touching. Big thanks Mystic for this post. Good luck and good night to all x

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  27. scorpalicious robot’s avatar

    My realisation is that one of my tattoos is 19 years old (exact on 10 October 2009) and after toying with the idea for a few years have finally decided to get it removed.
    Last couple of years or so i have avoided buying strappy summer frocks and tops because i felt self-conscious about the dated tatt which is on my shoulder.

    Starting to get emotional about it. It’s been a part of me for 19 years but I think it’s time to explore a new persona sans tatt…. letting go of the old. It’s just not me any more.
    And Pluto is going over my Cap ascendent, so the decision could not have come at a better time.
    I’m aiming for an appointment at the laser clinic the day Pluto goes direct. It’s a lengthy, expensive and painful process – how very Pluto!

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    1. sun Pisces, moon Aries, Leo rising’s avatar

      I have been getting my tattoos removed now for 13 years. Like you, I have avoided strappy summer frocks for far too long. I wouldn’t know what it is like to be able to buy something because I like it and not just because it is the only thing in the shop with sleeves.
      It is a long process for me because of the expense and pain, and the machine at the place I used to have it done broke the bit that does green, and won’t be replacing it.

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      1. scorpalicious robot’s avatar

        oh bummer about the broken green part. The expense is what has put me off all this time. The pain doesn’t actually scare me… it couldn’t be any more painful than getting the tattoo… or is it? Are you glad you got it done though?
        Like you, I’m looking forward to choosing clothing because i actually like it and not because it covers my tatt.

        Sorry to hear about your separation. Are you doing the Astro Coven this Friday 11th? It’s about Pluto going direct… might help. Just a thought.

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        1. sun Pisces, moon Aries, Leo rising’s avatar

          Can’t as it is a very chaotic time of the day here. Plus I am still only very new at this and can barely read my chart.

          Yes, pain is much much worse getting them removed. I have had 12 treatments on each of my tattoos and they are still very visible, and there is some scarring from one incompetent guy who thought I had white pigment, but it was really my skin!

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          1. scorpalicious robot’s avatar

            oh noooooooooo, that’s not what i wanted to hear. Starting to have doubts now.

            You’ll get the hang of the astro. We’re all at different levels but it doesn’t matter… we’re all here to learn.

  28. scorpy Lizzy’s avatar

    I’ve got 22 sleeps till the biggest adventure of my life (tho life IS the adventure… hoping that penny will drop, an adventure inside an adventure). .. I’m doing the most terrifying thing I can think of. Going overseas. Never been. Gunna cut myself adrift – me & best friend been dreaming about it for 18 years… go we must. Had quite a process of learning in the last few years, turned 42 and WHACK!!! So much has changed since. Talkin bout bare bones…. so I’ll be spending my 46th birthday somewhere in Britain. It’s surreal.

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    1. Bella’s avatar

      I did the same a few months ago. BRLLIANT. Wish I’d done it sooner and now really have the bug to travel. I can feel your excitement. When the time came to leave I got very nervous – this is really going to happen. But that is all part of the adventure.

      You could do worse than spend your birthday in the Lake District or Scotland. Dramatic scenery and weather – always rains in both places! Or the Cornish coast and Tintagial for dramatic seas, or the Norfolk coast for vast vistas, calm and millions of birds, or the mysticism of the Welsh marches. Whatever takes your fancy.

      Internet access is difficult outside the towns, but do keep us posted when you can.

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  29. fish out of water’s avatar

    just . let . go

    stop basing decisions around imagined long term outcomes

    jump in with the current, stop using up all my energy trying to control everything and just trust the process.

    Also ripped up my completely overgrown garden out the front, and my husband did the same out the back. Awesome!

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    1. shell’s avatar

      oh my god, how I wish to be able to stop basing decisions around imagined long term outcomes. Though I think involve such a fundamental shift in my gemini/pisces brain/heart I wouldn’t be the same person.
      I think being able to recognise what are imaginings, what is intuition, and what is common sense and then act accordingly would be a good start, and as you say just go with it. I do like the imaging stuff, there is a fine line btw mental meanderings and hope I reckon.

      Sounds like we have similar things to deal with Fish out of Water (does that make you a flying fish or a land fish?)

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      1. fish out of water’s avatar

        haha! i hadn’t thought of flying fish, but its much more glamourous than the flapping futile image i had in my head when i came up with the name! i was kind of thinking fish out of water a la at flapping goldfish at the end of the “epic” faith no more video. i’m probably not so much like that anymore, maybe tis time for a name makeover

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  30. Lark’s avatar

    Savannah – I feel as though I am in the same situation. When I talk to my family and a certain close friend, I feel like they are in an emo groundhog day and just living in a different reality and one which I have moved on from.

    I too, cannot understand why they don’t just do something about it. But on the positive side, I am so glad I can see clearly now and am not stuck in the same groundhog loop. Wish they would leave the sinking island too though.

    But experientially, it literally feels like they are in a 2-D world, and I am in a 3-D one.

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    1. Savannah’s avatar

      Oh Lark so it’s not just me!

      Living with chronic PTSD you have to be careful not to minimise others’ problems & to respect where they’re at. Recovery from life changing events taught me you can’t stay static, it just won’t let you otherwise you keep slipping back into the abyss. I’m pretty sure I was always one of those people that spotted a problem & headed towards it & dealt with it. Maybe its an age thing you know being over 40 plus I’ve got enough of my own stuff going on so patience is little thin.

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      1. Baristagem’s avatar

        Me too savannah, have chronic ptsd. great perspective you have & I agree.

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        1. Savannah’s avatar

          It’s a bitch to manage huh? Years ago I said to a psych “if I just had depression I’d be the happiest person in the world”.

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  31. scorpy Lizzy’s avatar

    P.S. It’s a time for courage huh SR… best wishes :)

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  32. scorpy Lizzy’s avatar

    Ta Bella, and thx for painting such lovely images and feelings…. ohhh….
    Ireland is the objective, the goal; we will drive, beginning round the south of england after a wk in London :) then Cornwall and up to Wales and across to yorkshire and up to scotland, edinburgh, inverness and the lough, then west, then ferry to Belfast, and the real pilgrimage begins…
    Old Things, truly Old Things… ancient, even… wow…
    wow…
    they tell me I’ll be right when I’m on the plane ! LOL

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    1. shell’s avatar

      if you are driving around scotland, make sure you go up the A82, the road from Glasgow to Fort William, takes you through Glencoe, my heart gets all fluttery just thinking about it. (and stop at the Drovers Inn for a pint on the way, on the banks of Loch Lomond, taxidermy galore!)
      I’d also highly recommend doing a little detour prior to ferrying it to Ireland to drive round Skye and the hebrides, you ferry between them, or at least Skye, there is a bridge from near Fort William. Its another world.

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      1. Bella’s avatar

        And try and see Loch Fyne and Inveraray – fantastic little smokehouse in the back streets. If you head back towards Loch Eck/Loch Long, there is a simply wonderful little walk up a waterfall, called Pucks’ Glen.

        Not been to Skye, but long to. So mystical, and misty! When were you there Shell? I think the Cally ferry gve up because of competition from the bridge.

        Don’t miss the Crown Bar in Belfast. You can’t get near Stonehenge now – visitors centre and fenced walkway, but Avebury should be OK, and Glastonbury Tor. And Maiden Castle. Not a castle, but a huge burial/defensive mound with Arthurian connections.

        Oh, I’m so envious. It’s no big deal to get to these places, but I simply don’t have the time at the moment.

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        1. shell’s avatar

          I lived in Glasgow 2000, 2001. Didn’t manage much european travelling except for lots of tripping about Scotland.
          Went on a road trip round Skye, Lewis, Harris, North and South Lewis. I’d so move to Skye if I could (and the weather wasn’t quite so bleak), or at least have a house there to visit in. There are some great standing stones called Callenish (?) on Lewis, and you can stay in restored black houses near by. No one about at all. And the light is fantastic for photography, seems dull but the colours come out fantastically.

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  33. scorpy Lizzy’s avatar

    Hey fish, does that philosophy apply to spending ? lol

    but yep, you’re so right.

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  34. C’s avatar

    Am in the desert-went for a walk under the lowest, biggest full moon I’ve ever seen and saw coyotes and jack rabbits running amongst the foliage.

    Realized that nature is the ultimate restorative.

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  35. virgo cat’s avatar

    Lesson? To just chill out and let the things unfold from time to time.

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  36. neptune rising’s avatar

    I realized that contentment is more important than happiness and trying to cultivate it as such….

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  37. confused fish’s avatar

    Full moon was hard.. and I have been quite emotional for a while now.. am unable to decide if I should stay or should I go in a relationship with my Aquarian re-bounder. He is not ready but he is the man of my dreams in many ways.. dont want to close the door but we both need space to work with ourselves.. it seems there is a pattern going on around me. An aquarian freind rang to say he had been having a terrible time with his piscean boyfriend (3am fights and no sleep for days).. it seems that there is a pattern of struggle here.
    Knowing what you want doesn’t help when it doesn’t fit with the person you want to be with..

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  38. confused fish’s avatar

    Mind you listening to what was going on in my Aqauarian friends head was quite insightful..

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  39. prowlncat’s avatar

    I learned so much throughout the month of August that it seems the universe gave me the night off during the full moon. The only revelations I had were re X-files alien conspiracies. It was all on again by Saturday tho …. the overall message appears to be let go, let go, let go. Oh and that my emotions are my emotions – no one else makes me feel anything. They trigger or act as a catalyst for what’s already within … the implications of that one are interesting …

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    1. venus a-go-go’s avatar

      My realisation was how much I need and still love my ex.
      He seems to be perfectly happy in his current relationship. So I am up that well known creek without the preverbial impliment.
      Have been doing the ‘let go, let go, let go’ for a few months now, but the loss of my friend’s sister has brought it into sharp relief.
      I have no idea what i am going to do about it, besides the sensible sweet FA.
      I went a tracked him down the day she passed against all better judgement. Just being in the same room as him made everyhting hurt less and like I could cope. That night I dreamt that we sat together the whole night, just beside each other.

      Makes me bang my head against the table a little as we have been parted for almost 2 years now. And I was doing ok up until now.

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      1. nat’s avatar

        venus-a-go-go, sometimes when we experience traumatic events, it triggers other traumatic things that have happened to us – its like we replay something over that we thought we had ‘moved on’ from. Psychologists have a term for this, which I can’t recall, but it is a perfectly normal part of human emotions and how they work.

        Feeling needy like you do just now about your ex does not necessarily mean you ’should’ be trying to get back together with him, especially now when you are emotionally exhausted and maybe not thinking as clearly as usual? A good counsellor will help you separate the issues and deal with each one. It can be very helpful just to talk about your feelings.

        Death & grief can trigger all sorts of things, especially old patterns. Sometimes it is not immediately clear to us why such things re-surface when they do, but it is normal. Like you say “I was doing OK up until now”. I’m sure you were and I am sure you will again – the 2 year mark brings important perspective I reckon. I can understand how you must be craving some care and comfort during this sad time, but if no-one else is around, you must give that care and kindness to your self. Locate that comforting loving place in yourself. x

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        1. venus a-go-go’s avatar

          Good point. Excellent perspective.
          At no point was I think that I should attempt to get back together with him. More that i didn’t want to do this with out him. Not with him as my boyfriend necessarily, but that its hard to ask for his time now that we are not in a relationship.
          And that I still love him and care for him a great deal.
          There were reasons why we broke up and those reasons have not changed (I think and assume).
          The replay notion is very interesting tho. A counsellor is a bit beyond me at the moment tho.

          Thank you

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          1. scorpalicious robot’s avatar

            venus a-go-go, that’s a lovely dream you had about your ex – the two of you sitting beside each other. I love those kinda dreams. It would have been very comforting i’m sure. I like to think that the love you have for someone never really dies. Why should it just because the relationship has died.

            Aren’t you about to have a Saturn return? Or is that someone else? Being Saturn ruled (Cap rising). I’ve done nearly everything on my own without anyone beside me. Maybe Saturn is teaching you to stand on your own two feet… be strong.

            And everything Nat said. x

          2. venus a-go-go’s avatar

            I am right smack bang in the throws of a Saturn return (huzzah!).
            I have always been an independent person. I know how to stand by myself a lot more easily than I know how to stand with someone else, so we have that in common, SR:)
            I would be mortified at the thought of the relationship dying. We are still friends… perhaps sometime friends that are too close emotionally.
            Still trying to sort this out in my head and pissed at myself that its 2 year on and I am still thinking about it. Normally there is a quicker turn around, I guess…

          3. scorpalicious robot’s avatar

            everybody has their own turnaround time. Go easy on yourself. Whatever feels right for you. It took me four friggin years to get over my Virgo ex… and he still pops up in my dreams every now and then! He was an amazing person and i shall love him always but would never go back (he’s married now anyway). We’re not friends though. It’s too hard when strong feelings are still there.

            I actually had the time of my life during Saturn return!

          4. venus a-go-go’s avatar

            It could be just the fortnite that I have had SR!

            I swear, my house got broken into a week and a bit before my friend’s sister passed.
            Its a bit gruntalicious, let me tell you. I have broad shoulders, but its testing even my limits. I could be speaking like a true Toro when I say that I find it too hard to not have someone I was so close to no longer be in my life. Although I have recently discovered that it may not be such a good idea to keep them (the discovery that another ex is a self serve so-and-so and not worth my time… although that took me ten years. I just don’t want to take another 10… you know?)

            I understand that its horses for courses… I guess just wish I was on a different track:)