I love the basic description of Saturn Girl as “a talented telepath from the 30th Century.”
I am so totally loving Saturn, even though the planet is opposing my Venus right now. As you can read in Saturn Crashes The Uranus-Venus Club and the Saturn-Venusian Transits Bad Boys Thingie if you are having a Uranus transit to any point in your chart in the next month, Saturn is along for the smackdown. But this is a GOOD thing.
It need not be Venus of course – whatever is betweeen 20 to 26 degrees of any sign but especially the Mutable signs (Virgo, Pisces, Gemini, Saggo) is being affected. In fact, more than that, it’s been caught between Saturn and Uranus. My mind is on this at the moment partly because i am doing the Saturn-Uranus-Mercury Retro mini-astro-queries but also because i have this Saturn opposing my Venus thing going on & I have decided TWO MAJOR THINGS;
Thing One; Saturn is not boring. Yes i often link the planetary influence with mortality, taxes blah de blah. But the other night, when i turfed out the Uranian, it felt fabulous. Like having an inner suave life coach – setting boundaries seemed suddenly SO simple & easy. And just because he’d turned up out sans warning, i didn’t let my Venus-Neptunian goo-goo urges take over and render the whole thing “passionate” or (worse) fated. Quite frankly it is that sort of sentiment that leads to an awful lot of women snivelling into the cracked tea-mug they’re drinking warm gin out of as they gaze out of their rusty window frame at the railway tracks. Not that the U would have taken me there, but you get my point. Channel Saturn to prize your health, wealth & wisdom. Saturn is cool. And given that the pantheon is overwhelmingly male, i am visualising Saturn as Saturn-Girl for the moment. It works for me and it might work for you too.
Thing Two; Yes, Saturn and Uranus are moving into an opposition at the moment (and it’s back next April so how you do September’s one determines 2010 a LOT) but it need not be a battle between the two. What if they get along really well & help one another? The other night with the U is not just me being an indulgent confessional blogger – it works as an example because Venus was trining Uranus and sextiling Saturn. So it was an actual Saturn-Uranus opposition test/issue. Okay so Saturn works by setting boundaries & saying this isn’t good enough and so on – Uranus was simply bored by the whole thing. I seriously felt like it was a groundhog situation. Almost like we had been scripted and were just revving up for take 57 of the same stupid scene. Not good. Uranus on its own might grok the boredom and attempt to liven things up via a dash of chaos or acting out but Saturn kicks in and says ‘kill it’ – no dramas, no worries & now pixter your teeth, bung on some antioxidant serum & go happily to a rejuvenatory sleep.
So far as boundaries go, Saturn-Girl is set and forget. No agonising. No insomnia. No Neptunian musings re karma drama.
AND: One of my fave astro books – The Gods Of Change, by Howard Sasportas - makes the point that Neptune always benefits from a little Saturn. So if you’re Venus in Pisces, Venus in 12th House or Venus aspecting Neptune (a la me) then you will love a good Saturn transit to your Venus, you truly will.
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Good on you Mystic. Embrace the Saturn! says this Capri…
I had to watch a relatively Naff TV show last night “Journey to the End of the Universe” just to see cool animation of planets and galaxies et al. HOWEVER, had an awesome ‘breakthrough’ while watching it…
When describing Saturn the narrator said:
“Saturn may be an imposing giant, but is in fact so light, the planet could float on water.”It reminded me of the morning I woke up very early (and sorry to get all gruesome and emo and personal on you all, but it is a Scorp moon…) after 2.5 months of double-vision and wearing a pirate patch, post bashing due to fractured skull, and for the first time I could see straight, a single image. Just like that.
And this little voice whispered to me “sometimes the most seemingly insurmountable challenge can be overcome as easily as opening your eyes on a new morning.”
The bashing occurred the day I began my Saturn return, and that little voice has stayed with me, as my Saturn Girl, ever since.-
Lex I’m so sorry that you had to endure something so spiteful. Yet at the same time pleased for you that you can transform this into something so insightful. Good healing.
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Lexi, when i was a teenager form maroubra running around wild in the 70’s in my hawaiian shirts and desert boots we one night stumbled upon the first Mardi Gras in Sydney, I think it was 77?, that night the police were bashing men for a peaceful parade..something I’ll never forget, from meeting people that night, ‘Patches’ nightclub became one of our dance spots. The few women that were there were normally gorgeous, and available !
Saturn carried you thru a terrible time and you have learned the most important lesson..well done-
i remember Patches!! i didn’t hit that dance floor until the early 80’s.
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David, it was 78. And of all the straight men that could have been there, I’m glad you were among them. For many reasons, I now carry that 78 torch and will happily fuel it with a little of your Aries fire.
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That’s a beautiful idea to meditate on, Lex. Good on you for finding such an important lesson in something so mean and pointless. Take care of yourself.
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Woah that is awesome and i am so sorry you went thru the bashing et al but FABULOUS insights and guidance. I love the quote – an imposing giant yet so light it could float on water…When you have finished up with the medico aspect of your healing, i so hope you have time to get some gentle reiki and osteo etc…
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Thank you Mystic. Indeed the non-medico recoup has begun, tho I really have to find an accupuncturist (spelling??) in Sydney ‘cos I feel those tiny needles and intricate energy work might be just what the eye muscles need to make their final delicate adjustments… Suggestions anyone??
And didn’t mean to hijack that post with my personal Saturn return woes, but rather to reflect on that idea that Saturn, like the TV guy said, can be a light and gentle giant.
“Float on Water” it really is the most serene way to think of a Saturn transit. To rise above. To float through it with grace.
I also see Saturn as possessing some fab feminine energy – patience, gratitude, forgiveness, acceptance…-
Lord, Lex! How horrid to get bashed at the beginning of Saturn return. I’m glad your vision found its way again and I’m also glad the bashing hasn’t curbed you from being out and proud and fabulous. Did it leave scars?
Must be a Cappy trait, but you seem to vibe older. Not in a stodgy way, but a mature, together, saturnine way.
Mystic knows a good acupuncturist in Sydney.
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One of the many benefits of having a psychic and spiritual healer for a mother is that you don’t get nasty scars!! All credit to the very clever surgeon, but still, Mum and her Posse were SO ONTO IT!
All I have left is a tiny red spot in the corner of my eye – which is amazing, consider all the work they did.
Capricorn cheek bones were, of course, indestructible!You’re all very lovely to say such kind things. And Ubes.. I know 30 is still a spring chicken, but good goddess, I was an early bloomer and there are now days when I feel I could be the one claiming to be Nefertiti..!
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my sympathies indeed to, after reading about such a horrid event Lex, and may I also add I am very happy to hear that the cappy cheekbones were as tough as you are! I do love those cap cheekbones
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agh! too.
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MY acupuncturist is brilliant. I love her. Melinda 9565-2793 and if u tell her what you have been thru she will do some reiki as well whilst the needles are in. There is also a fab osteo at the same place: George
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THANK YOU. sounds absolutely perfect.
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Lexi – “I also see Saturn as possessing some fab feminine energy – patience, gratitude, forgiveness, acceptance…” that is so true. Like Ubes i have natal Saturn fish opp natal Uranus virgo in 7th house and what you said is really resonating re the Saturn transit through my 7th house. “Float on Water” a beautiful way to think about Saturn transits, thanks.
I would have thought Sydney the last place for gay bashing. Sending healing vibes ….
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sadly the only place any of my gay friends have been “bashed” is sydney. Hope you heal well and fast xxx.
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Gosh Lexicorn, thanks for sharing your story. So sorry about the bashing (an ugly side of humanity) but so lovely about your recovery and your Saturn Girl’s words of wisdom. Yes, acceptance, patience, being your authentic self in the moment – all these wonderful & wise concepts of time can be associated with Saturn. Useful too.
Saturn gets a bad rap sometimes (sombre taskmaster, rules etc.) but what is wrong with a bit of work and applying oneself to something? Humans usually feel great after it. And thank goodness for a healthy understanding of boundaries! My life has certainly improved since I started figuring that concept out (ie. that I can both honour boundaries & be compassionate – they are not mutually exclusive). I think us ‘modern’ people get a bit lazy sometimes & are obsessed with taking shortcuts instead of taking the time to do a journey/task properly, whatever that journey/task might be. Thanks for sharing Mystic & Lexicorn, you’ve brightened my afternoon!
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Lexicorn you just gave me the final piece of my Saturn Return puzzle! Saturn is in fact so light….. I’ve been stumping along trying to just bloody “GET IT”, and in reality, I can let it settle over me… whatever “it” ends up being. I keep thinking I haven’t ‘gotten’ whatever my Saturn Return is supposed to Teach Me – and am terrified I won’t get it, and it will be a revolving issue for me… Classic Saturn in Virgo no doubt. But how about I imagine Saturn as that light giant – and not as the hard taskmaster? I’m going to imagine my Saturn Girl as that wonderful Haute-Virgo who is Helpful-Witty-Suave-Polite-Modest-&-Perfectionist. I like her…
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That’s the perfect way to see your Saturn postmod!
I know, being a Capricorn with Saturn and Virgo energies everywhere, that my Saturn Return has been all about things I CAN’T CONTROL.
And learning to make peace with them.
All the Air and Fire signs I know have had Sat-Rets that are about learning self-control, but I think it’s different when you are born into the Saturnine kind of archetype. Instead Saturn comes to say – some things, no matter how good you are at wheelin and dealin and control-freakin, are out of your hands…-
Hey postmod, while I’m on this strange Guru jag I seem to have got on today… My theory on Sat Rets for Water Signs is that it is all about becoming aware and at peace with THE BIGGER PICTURE. Think Macro not Micro, think of others not yourself…
But Mystic is the expert. I’m just feeling philosophical with this Scorp moon riding my Uranus…
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I can’t knock Saturn either. Funnily, Saturn will be conjunct my Uranus at the same time it opposes Uranus in Pisces (concurrent with my own Uranus opposition), so I’m doing major Saturn Uranus.
Thanks Mystic, I like the idea of the two forces helping each other as that’s how I’ve been been working them. Slog and contraction in order to find freedom and expand. Results won’t be in for a while, but fingers crossed it will work for me in terms of tangible rewards. The creative/personal rewards have been good so far.
Also the current astro (yesterday’s really) forms my solar return chart, so this coming year should be a doozy. Venus trine Uranus with a Merc, Mars Pluto T Square. I’m fastening my seatbelt.
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We are having similar astro Uber – I am not able to fear or dread Saturn either – it’s always been good to me – sorry I if I have this wrong but are you the one who was brought up with eastern philosophies in your life? I was too and sometimes I wonder if that is why the challenges are what I relish. That zen thing of collecting water chopping wood – I probably have that quote all wrong lol.
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Happy Solar Return Uber for yesterday. I bet you were working your ass off though
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Many Happy Returns Uber, Solar and otherwise xxx
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Was it your birthday Ubee ?, hope you got what you wished for. I always ask for a present from venus on my birthday, and she’s never let me down once
Big hugs, love you Ubee xxxx
…so tell me how old are you ? or is someone asking you that breaking one of the last ‘victorian’ no no’s ?-
I’ve worked out her astro David – she’s same vintage as my youngest sis – did her chart today (got heaps of info at the astro coven and stuff picked up over time here). But I won’t tell, leave it up to Uber, else i may be hung drawn and quartered.
Gaawd, I’m stepping away from the computer now – i’m turning into an astro stalker
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Go nuts feline. Sun at 1°13′00. It’s no secret, I’m a 67 vintage. Born in Bris but I like to think that in the northern hemi, it was bang in the middle of the summer of love.
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Hey, thanks all! Tres sweet! And yes I was working my ass off.
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Happy solar return UV! Hope you had a gorgeous day.
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Ubes, you delight, my very most happiest returns to you.
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Happy Birthday Übes. Hope you had a most fabulous time. You rock! xx
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hilarious I inadvertently proved my hypothesis about avatars by forgetting completely who you were – it came to me as I was doing the dishes – you are not the angel of daoist lineage, you are someone else. Very gracious of you not to berate.
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Yep, one day soon, Saturn will not only be deemed lovable, but sexy too!
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I always think of the sexiness of a uniform or lace up boots as entirely saturnine – all tucked in and proper and ready to be ripped off and ravaged. LOL time to go my moon in scorp is obviously totally scorped up.
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how would i know my saturn return? still not well versed with this but just got an idea. i thnk its nice to know. tnx
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each saturn cycle is 7 years and then on the fourth cycle you are having a saturn returns which is when it is in the position it was when you were born – every 27-28 years you get to look back over the last 4 cycles, ditch what no longer works, take the lessons and travel into the future with only the wisdom and not the baggage and having become a more carefree and well rounded person. It’s like a chance to be born again but with more knowledge of yourself and how to deal with the hurdles and challenges life drops at your feet. That’s the ever-optimistic living in hope and loving personal evolution angle on it – I’ll leave it to others to give you the shitstorm life sucks angle.
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Usually at age 29-30 ish…it is when Saturn has transited the entire 360 degrees of the birth chart wheel, to return to its natal degree. Characterised by learning & integrating life lessons related to the house, sign & aspects of Saturn in your chart; often requiring that you take on responsibility for yourself, even though the “younger” you may prefer not to.
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starstrokes, isn’t authenticity also a theme of the Saturn returns? As in growing into your authentic self, which usually requires some review & analysis of our baggage/behaviour and whether it is really who we want to be? And then what we need to work on in order to be a more authentic expression of ourselves. For me, the concept of values & how I expressed (lived) them was very important. Boy, this took me some time!
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Time, yes, time…I’m with that, Nat! I didn’t actually sort my Saturn return until I was 35! Short version-It was all to do with a love relationship that ended badly & suddenly at 30, involving issues of me wanting to have a child & it took for the guy to leave me, have an unexpected child with another on the other side of the world & then come back to me to try & figure out w.t.f. just happened in the last 5 years…needless to say my haute & his low met in the middle to resolve all in a very profound & empowering way. Issues of authenticity? ‘kin oath!
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Sounds to me like you did it really well in fact starstrokes. I was so lacking in insights and working so hard at building a ‘career’ and doing the ‘right thing’ by others, that I stuffed up my own Saturn return lessons/opportunities at 28… & at again at 35. Missed opportunity for much needed growth Big Style. But I sure didn’t miss my opportunity when it rolled around at 42 – I got right into it! So don’t feel bad about your 5 year hiatus/adventure at 35, some of us are WAY WAY slower
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thank you starstrokes and whatever.
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I’m more in the making peace with Saturn stage. Saturn has been at times way too familar echoing along the lines of my Virgo Dad…the teenage years.
It has taken me ages to see the positive saturn influences in my life…
For me it’s been about accepting that routine is not death to fun. That a solid routine can in fact support way more fun, than I’d imagined.
I think I’m emotionally healthier since beginning Saturn bootcamp 2005. I’m certainly more appreciative of my physical health and build it as an ongoing concern now.
I think I’ve been able to combine the saturn lessons with my need for things to be fun pretty well now. It used to feel like I was being pulled in two different directions. I once felt a little inwardly chastised and silly for wanting things to have some element of fun. Now I figure as long as I have an idea of where my micro and macro boundaries lie, I’m better than ok.
I think sometimes Saturn as a lifecoach encourages us to use our energy responsibly too…to not let our excess energy spill over onto people in a less than elegant, unwanted fashion and to not let energy stealth bandits fuq with our qi trying to siphon off our reserves.
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I love the idea of micro and macro boundaries. Brilliant! And using energy responsibly – these are like the Cliff’s notes for those of us preparing to meet with Saturn Girl. Love it!
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some good thoughts there LL…….
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Thanks CBA and UP…some days the neurons just connect a little better than others…some days something shifts and you get just a little bit more of a glimpse of where you’re at.
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yes sometimes you realise you are actually ‘doing’ saturn pretty well…or at least I hope so, no tantrums, flash resignations or slack off at work (god..much as i would like to) … but it’s just the personal aspects of saturn I am trying to grasp. I think I had a saturn – venus moment the other night but didn’t quite work it the way I (feel that I) should have, nonetheless self control and boundaries were retained, sorta..
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I think I went pretty extreme with my Saturn return. Went from a total alcoholic, never owning a thing, to pregnant with one baby, married, house owner, teetotaller within 8 months. 4 years later I am battling with this extremeness, and crave a little of the old life back ie travel, not alcohol. Seems I haven’t learnt my lessons. Back on the merry go round.
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thats just part of the journey Fishma..(god that word journey is sooo abused these days) of course saturn wants you to enjoy yourself in whatever way you choose. Just that this time your the boss. All things in moderation,and i mean ALL things.
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Saturn Girl has been hanging out here since 07 & I got to say I am inspired by reading this.
It’s true about all the hard work, health & admin stuff but I’ve got to admit I enjoy the process of evolving into an amazon warrior! All of the strength I have on the inside I now see on the outside.
I recently applied for a degree in Chiro & it feels right for me! Saturn transit has been amazing clarity for me
Venus 26 Gem
Saturn Virgo 6th -
Hmmmm….. I really like the idea of a feminine Saturn, I can do that….And I had my that’s not good enough- kill it moment on the weekend, so it’s onward and upward. No messing with the messy stuff, not for Saturn girl!
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