Hi-Lo Astro: Haute Virgo – Low Virgo

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HAUTE VIRGO is HELPFUL: Virgo is responsible for some awesomely practical and helpful innovations. For instance, Margaret Sanger, the nurse who started the world’s first contraceptive clinic and gave us the term “birth control”, was a Virgo. And naturally, it took a Virgo, Samuel Johnson, to dream up the amazingly sensible idea of the dictionary. Virgos can always be relied upon for practical advice: think of this timeless piece from Joseph P. Kennedy (father of U.S. president John F. Kennedy): “Don’t get mad – get even.” When at a dinner party a Virgo asks, “Can I help?”, they actually mean it, unlike say, Gemini or Pisces who really mean “refresh my drink”. They have a keen sense of duty and offer amazingly sensible advice for stressed-out friends. Virgos don’t become hysterical, they are straight to the point with the best advice in the world and offer pragmatic assistance when appropriate.

HAUTE VIRGO is WITTY: Their unique brand of bitchy character analysis is hilarious. Virgo zooms in on the tiniest most revelatory details and expands them into a hyperbolic gushy tirade. They remember gags, anecdotes, and jokes and are able to tell them beautifully. Virgos are rightly adored across the known universe for their wit, humour, and observational skills. When told he’d have to “bite the bullet”, Hollywood Hunk Keanu Reeves replied ‘’yeah, but I don’t have to eat the whole rifle”.

HAUTE VIRGO is SUAVE: Virgos of both genders have suave, cute worldly-wise appeal. They always appear put together to just the right degree – not too over the top and contrived, but certainly not underdone.

HAUTE VIRGO is POLITE: Virgos are the original take-anywhere date. Blessed with exquisite manners and social perceptions, they know precisely how to behave with perfect aplomb in any situation. Although they live in fear of it, they never offend. It is quite common for Virgo to telephone after a party to ensure that they did not upset anyone when, in fact, they were the most functional and best-behaved guest in the history of socialising. They always remember to ask about you.

HAUTE VIRGO is MODEST: Virgos turn their analytical inclinations upon themselves with sometimes disastrous effects upon self-esteem. They can’t fool themselves with the sort of comforting half-truths contrived by others to maintain serenity. Intimates of Virgo should try to remember to “stroke their ego”. That way Virgo won’t be forced to fish for compliments or goad people into them. They are so aware that they are not doing a hamstring stretch while they clean their teeth, or whatever is their latest routine, that they forget what they achieve every day: civilised order in an often unruly world.

HAUTE VIRGO is A PERFECTIONIST: People belittle the Virgo for this but who do they screech for when something goes bung? That’s right. Our Virgo, who knows where the receipt, guarantee form and toll-free help number are filed. To totally thrill a Virgo, ask them to help reorganise the Rolodex and start a new, happier, and more organised version of life. Virgos are everyone’s life coach. They know all the little tricks in the book: motivational tips, power naps, power showers, stain removal…

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LOW VIRGO is A FUSSBUDGET: Inside every Virgo is a school Sock Monitor waiting to get out. These people are so particular. Having handed you your drink, they then snap “that’s all right” in sarcastic tones before you’ve even had a chance to say thank you. In fact, Virgo wanted you not to thank them. That’s why they give you a mere two-second interval before bitching it up. The notorious mutiny on the Bounty in 1789 is a lot more understandable when we take into account the captain of the ship, William Bligh, was a Virgo. He probably had one too many fits over the shocking state of the ship’s baseboards.

LOW VIRGO is GUILTING: If anyone ever makes a horror film about Virgos it should be called The Guilting. All Virgos are elite, professional guilters. But it is not enough to be a natural-born guilter. Just as the world’s best ballet dancers still perform the basic maintenance chore of a thousand plies at the barre each day, Virgos are constantly honing their guilting skills. These can take the form of a dread silence, the infamous minute-long Virgo sigh or a clench-jawed “Seeing as you’re too busy to make it over Christmas, I’ll put your nephew on to talk to you…. I suppose hearing your voice will be some small comfort for the poor thing…” Whether they know it nor not, most Virgos consider themselves to be saints. And what is the main occupation of most saints? That’s right, martyrdom. The Virgo worship of natural fibres is really leading up to one obvious outcome, the hairshirt. It would add extra oomph to their “after all I have sacrificed for you” and “slaving over a hot oven” speeches. But martyrs also create miracles and there are many such manifestations of St. Virgo’s powers. There is the St. Virgo “entertaining the in-laws at Easter” miracle, the “St. Virgo arising from their sick bed to hang out the washing” miracle and the “St. Virgo nearly breaking a bone dashing to answer the phone” miracle. Reserved for special occasions are the “St. Virgo marrying beneath themselves” miracle and “St. Virgo selfessly wrecking brilliant career for the children” miracle.

LOW VIRGO is HYPOCHONDRIAC: An estimated one in 10 people suffer from this ailment – a “state of mind in which the sufferer is so preoccupied with their health or with symptoms of ill-health that this preoccupation is in itself a disability” – and they are all Virgos. Everyone else gets a cold. Virgo is convinced they have Peking Virus X or whatever illness is most in style that season. Most people figure that a strange rash will go away, Virgo’s can’t help seeing themselves as the mysterious Patient X, afflicted with something so hideous it makes headlines in medical mags. With their whining, leisure-time reading of prescription drug manuals and surfing of symptoms.net, Virgos can make awful patients. The doctor says it’s athlete’s foot and Virgo demands a full toe scan. They can be germ phobic.

LOW VIRGO is NAGGING: Okay, so old nun-face calls it correctional motivation. The point is that when Virgos are done badgering themselves closer to perfection for the day, they turn on whoever is closest or most susceptible. Even if a person is not at hand, they’ll start picking through the cat’s fur looking for fleas to kill. Virgo is so vile that they can’t see anything untoward with their contact. To them, it is obvious that they can’t commit their heart to a person so imperfect. They think casting aspersions on another’s income-earning ability several times a day will inevitably result in the said person becoming more prosperous, or telling someone again and again that their sexual technique is so inept that an orgasm is nigh impossible will result in an ecstatic copulatory experience. A Virgo can always find time to stick a note to the fridge, whether it’s for you or to nag themselves about whatever their gripe of the day is. Virgo is quite capable of taking a molehill and turning it into a whole new continent.

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  1. not-so-virginal’s avatar

    mystic, you are so hilarious :)

    guilty as charged. ahem.

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  2. bluelibra’s avatar

    Brilliant choice of examples Mystic!

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  3. Lexicorn’s avatar

    Mystic, your high-lows are my very favourite, but my dear – you are gonna be TORN TO SHREDS for all the typos in that Virgo character assassination!!

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    1. Über Virgo’s avatar

      Torn to shreds by the Virgo risings I reckon, who are even more precious than Virgo suns from what I can gather. Hmmm, Lex?

      High low on the money, Mystic. Bravo!

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  4. Nora Parsley’s avatar

    Miss Mystic!

    What, no mention of Sophia Loren? No Beyonce? No Elizabeth I even?

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    1. davidl’s avatar

      no showing off please..

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    2. Über Virgo’s avatar

      Awesome women yes! OMG, that Beyonce video for ‘Put a Ring On It’ has some sort of hypno hoodoo to it. And I’m straight! Whoa ho ho…

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  5. delilah’s avatar

    right on mystic. im surrounded by virgo friends. my ex even has a venus in virgo.

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  6. nat’s avatar

    Just LOVE your Hi-Lo analysis of the Signs Mystic. Bless Samuel Johnson – I never knew he invented the dictionary, one of my favourite books.

    Except for one gentleman in real life, the nicest Virgos I know are on this site. Mystic’s flock have given me much better insight to the Hi Virgo traits and helped me improve my attitude toward Virgos, bless them (that includes you lovely Uber!).

    Observation, (over) analysis, desire to ‘fix’ & function, stationery fetish, dictionaries, cleaning, cleaning and more cleaning… I reckon Virgo has a fair bit to say in my own chart, so I’m not going the Virgo-Lo here!

    In one of my astro books, it mentions Chiron as ruling Virgo (true?) and bringing qualities such as healing, fixing what is broken, detoxifying, perfecting, manifesting the ideal within the real, solving problems… also service to others.

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    1. nico’s avatar

      A Virgo invented the dictionary?? HA! true to the tooth!

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  7. nat’s avatar

    BTW, what the hell is Charlie Sheen doing to his arm? Stubbing cigarettes in it? Getting a tat? Is that a drip? Ooops, too much analysis. Apologies.

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    1. starstrokes’s avatar

      I’m with you Nat, it looks like gangrene! Eeew….love to know what thats about!

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      1. nat’s avatar

        His beer isn’t going to stay too cold there…

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  8. Uranian&Plutonic Virgo’s avatar

    You know Mystic, you Haute-Low analysis has yielded one amazing thing: my stepmother might have low-Virgo rising…shudder… Or she could simply be one of those bitchy Asian ladies of a certain generation… Or both! :lol:
    Surprisingly, I’ve yet to come across a Sun-Virgo who actually nags. It would be nice if my dad actually nagged a bit, but he’s always been very focused on his career. He’s not known for nagging either by his underlings, more supportive. Hence my theory that the ones who do nag are totally unfulfilled Virgos, or Low Virgos as per your post. The way I figure it out, why bother & waste energy with peeps who don’t want it or aren’t ready for it, you know? I have better things to do like making lists ;) & working on my dream home sketches.

    Thank you for this post Mystic, especially nailed with that bit that Virgos are their own worst critic. For every Virgo who doesn’t nag I suppose she/he is too busy doing the super-analysis on her/himself… 8)

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  9. fallen angel’s avatar

    Now is Lance Armstrong actually considered a haute Virgo? Because rumors abound he’s like a super Virgo Monster if one would exist, perhaps the jury is out.

    As a Virgo Rising I certainly see parts of myself in that description, and it’s not always in the haute section! I DO agree with Nat and say the nicest Virgos I know are here as well. I have a Virgo Brother in Law who can win the nagging contest hands down, he does it so well I’m sure he panics females to searching for their ovaries, nagging always being so (wrongly) attributed to women.

    But yes, in a national emergency, life crisis or alien domination, one definitely needs a Virgo onside. Only they DO the work quickly enough to dial down the panic. They are flabbergasting in their efficiency – I’m guilty of this as well, once having had a boss actually remind Management that I need to be restrained from executing if decisions are reversed. Like a gun I asked her?

    I think one of the best gifts of Virgo is truly service and the joy they have in giving it. Their sense of purpose and the wherewithal to do what must be done is amazing.

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    1. year of the fox’s avatar

      YES, he is a total ass in person. It’s cool he kicked his disease, is a kick ass cyclist, and does charity work but doesn’t excuse how he treats everyone else.

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  10. Baristagem’s avatar

    You know I never met a virgo i didn’t like…. although I would never tell them!
    lol

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  11. unpredictable pisces’s avatar

    i am happy to say i think i only know (or at least register that I know) haute virgos. most of My Favourite People are virgos, so pleasant, together, versatile, non-bitchy, naughty, quality-oriented, and with the true wierd streak that this fishy loves . aah now i’ve just reminded myself why i love ‘em.

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    1. unpredictable pisces’s avatar

      and Smart.

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  12. FishMa’s avatar

    This is very strange. I see a lot of virgo esque qualities in myself- a lot of the low and some of the high, in fact these better describe my personality than my own sign, and yet I have nothing in Virgo.

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    1. poppykettle’s avatar

      Pisces is the octave of Virgo you know… they’re the ’same’, but different – if you know what I mean.
      (I prefer the word ‘octave’ to opposite, it seems more appropos?)

      You know, it’s really heartwarming to see a laundry list of the positives of Virgo. Too often I start reading up on my own sign only to see the negatives…

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      1. FishMa’s avatar

        That is an interesting take on the opposite sign thing. I would love to know how that same same but different works in this case.

        The descriptions Mystic gave of the perfectionism, modesty and politeness traits is so apt- I thought I was abnormal until I read this! But I confess I am typically Piscean when it comes to helpfulness. I would ask “Can I help?” because I feel I should, but in the desperate hope that I can be let off the hook and go back to the party.
        I do the fussbudget, guilting, hypochondriac and nagging thing to the nth degree, these have always been exactly my worst qualities.

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  13. Leonine Librarian’s avatar

    The two main virgo people in my life are my Dad(adoptive) and my little sister(natural)…my sister that I gained in adulthood. Best 21st present ever.

    My Dad and I have butted heads throughout my childhood. His idea of ‘gentle’ guidance seemed like an avalanche of ways I did not measure up. I think a Virgo raising a Leo would have a particularly hard task, because our operating manuals are so different…

    He can be incredibly high haute, except when he gets into this worry spin…he just revs and revs on the one cycle…as though if he says the same thing enough times the benefit of his advice will burrow through and just magically transform that person’s life in ways too wonderous to believe.

    He would get so frustrated with my sister(the scary taurean) and I, as he really would have half the town coming to him for advice…and yet we wouldn’t listen.

    It’s taken him years to understand that we would be more receptive to his often very insightful and practical advice, if we were the ones asking for it… rather than assuming a defense position each time he’d start.

    He actually ticks all the boxes for high virgo behaviour these days and slips into a bit of low rarely now.I’m very proud that his community service has been recognised with an Order of Australia Medal

    My little virgo sister being a gift…man she is amazing. Has had the hardest shittiest of childhoods…as did my Dad actually…both had at least one parent that was abusive. Dad actually asked my Mum when his OAM got announced,’ I wonder if my Dad would of been proud..?’ Dad grew up being told that he would never amount to anything.

    She works for a major health insurance group these days, and is an amazing manager. Very good at making sure no-one is left behind….yet does hold everyone to the same high standards she expects of herself(well she gives them a little more leeway than she does herself, but they’re still held to a v high standard). Oh and she so fast with the quip…just a lovely thoughtful person, with a great sense of humour, without being totally up herself. She achieves so much it would be easy to be totally up herself…

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  14. firegirl’s avatar

    low virgos also: keep secrets, are capable of simmering and bubbling away with deeply held and unexpressed resentment for years, withhold emotionally, stash amazing amounts of cash while crying poor, can engage in staggering levels of control freakery .. and, apparently are always right

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  15. delilah’s avatar

    my virgo friends are mild outside but wild inside. :)

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  16. Champagne Bearing Aquarian’s avatar

    I adore Virgos, I really do. Dad and half brother and numerous friends are all (mostly) haute Virgos, and give fantastic advice. A little bit annoying when they dish it out unasked for, or when you secretly suspect you have not met their high standards, though…

    I have Saturn, Jupiter and Mars all in Virgo, so I think this helps me understand them better.

    Although not to take away from our beloved Virgos, but when it comes to earth signs, I have been reminded of the many qualities of our Toro friends this weekend, thanks to a certain Taurean gentleman who has popped up in my life. Mmmm.

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  17. Sweetpea’s avatar

    Had both my kids out visiting last weekened. The youngest, Cancer Sun with Scorpio rising, said she ’seriously’ can’t stand her sister….Gemini Sun, Virgo rising.

    They both have Sagg Moons and are five years apart.

    Noticed my eldest said something to the youngest as if she were putting herself in the role of teacher to her but the Cancer called her on it. Think the Virgo rising along with Sagg Moon makes my eldest a bit of a know it all, at least to her sister ;)

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  18. Sweetpea’s avatar

    My Mom has Venus, Mercury and Neptune all in Virgo. Over the years she has cultivated more of her sunny Leo side and worked on letting the criticalness of Virgo go, but yesterday she complained that “common sense” would dictate to the women up stairs that to run a bath (the shower doesn’t make the same kind of noise), but that running a bath late at night could disturbe the downstairs neighbors. I told her that her common sense is not the same common sense of everyone else (my Mom used to think people should think like her and thought herself quite superior), and that I’m sure the woman wasn’t doing it intentionally. She said said “oh, I know”, and let it go. From time to time she still talks to the tv though and says this and that is hideous (she likes home renovation shows). Or why do they do it this or that way. I just ignore her…At 73 she is not going to change as so I just go about and around her….

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  19. spirit’s avatar

    I have 3 friends who are Nurses….all 3 are Virgo`s……interested in health, serving others and are quite fussy

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  20. Lesly’s avatar

    I was having a bit of a bad day and this definitely cheered me up, Mystic! So very true! I even had to do a hamstring stretch just after. Tomorrow I have to be St. Virgo Bringing Her High School Out of Turmoil While Reorganizing Closets and the Entire Ceramics Room. Last week I was St. Virgo Reorganizing Closets and Redoing the Art Room for Her Highschool. Oh boy. I have certainly set myself up for a day of virgoan joy! I try to keep myself from slipping into Low Virgo these days, but today I’m having a bit of trouble as I haven’t taken my meds (adderall) and I get quite grumpy/scattered/anxious without them. Eck!

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    1. Lesly’s avatar

      Sun virgo, virgo rising, venus in virgo. A trifecta, if you will ;)

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  21. matthew-minerva’s avatar

    I have NO idea if any of you do this BUT whenever i watch TV i seem to catergorize people into their Sun-signs/ Ascendant signs based on the characteristic or personality…..
    Like for inStance….
    UMMM
    ok Bree from Desperate Housewives IS SOOOOOO A HAUTE VIRGO!
    you know… or you dont know????
    am i a loner on this one? HA
    MATT
    X

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    1. Ms Motown’s avatar

      You are totally on the money MM. But there is some low-Virgo too in that character. Emotional withholding. Giving with one hand whilst taking with the other (Eg; going with a tray of brownies to a neigbour with a plan of attack in mind to achieve her unstated motive…)

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  22. Vulzaen’s avatar

    My significant other, of whom I love dearly, has Sun:Libra (sigh), Moon: Cancer and Ascenant: Virgo and has most, if not all the hi/low Virgo traits as well.

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  23. prowlncat’s avatar

    This is so funny! And spot on if the Virgo’s I’ve encountered are anything to go by – I’ve encountered a lot of them …. no matter where I go or what I do I stumble across a Virgo just DYING to tell me how to live my lif … I mean, be helpful :mrgreen:

    One thing I’ve noticed: a Virgo/Water combo tends towards a much more martyrish, guilting Virgo although they’re always more emotionally empathetic too; Virgo/Fire combo is far more blunt and direct “here’s my opinion/advice and if you don’t like it tough shit (they swear more) ’cause I have a million like other disciples who DO listen; Virgo/Air combo is extremely intellectual, will probably find the cure for cancer, but can’t get the hang of the three meals a day/sock drawer organisation thing at all; Virgo/Earth combo is practical and strategic, is the maestro of stain removal/the spirituality of washing dishes etc., but can lean towards being WAY TOO BOSSY.

    Dunno why I get all these Virgos in my life??? Maybe it’s ’cause I am more of a free spirit – you know the type who considers bill payment due dates and speeding limits to be “suggestions” rather than hard and fast rules – which of course makes the Virgos in my life go into apoplectic shock before they start on a grand crusade of reforming me. hehehehe. As IF!

    One thing I’ve taught the Virgo’s I know (and they’ve commented as such, at least the ones that wanted to hear it – so like 2 of ‘em), is that the most helpful thing to do sometimes is absolutely nothing and that staying out of other’s people’s business and letting them sort their own shit out is more condusive to good human relations/respectful of the other person than random good intentioned interference.

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  24. Jason’s avatar

    what is the meaning of hi-low virgo? I was born september 16th,1980.

    How do I know if Im high or low?

    any help would be so appreciated.

    Thanks Jason.

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  25. whatever’s avatar

    High = you being the best you can be – low = you when you’re being lazy and self interested. We’re all a bit o both no matter what sign we are – how far you swing high or low depends on how much you care about the rest of humanity I guess.

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    1. Anonymous’s avatar

      thanks, Im not trying to sound like a know it all! Im 28 years old, & have alot more learning to do, but Im all ways right.

      I don’t know if it has anything to do with being a virgo, but being virgo’s are highly intelligent, im thinking thats why.

      I have ability’s that I use from time to time, to probe others, minds.

      Its like a god, like gift. I usually never have to do it, only when I don’t trust an individual, will I use it.

      Mostly, though I avoid situations that would cause me to do so. Also I hate being a virgo, only because of the jealousy, I encounter, im always talked about. but im the first person people run to when thangs go wrong. Also I hate being a perfectionest, drives me crazy sometimes.

      I broke up with a girl, for having dirty feet! I told her, it was over & moved on. I didn’t even tell her why, because I thought it would piss her off.

      I didn’t mind the fact her feet being dirty, but a week, straight with out cleaning them, was to much for my taste.

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      1. Sweetpea’s avatar

        “Its like a god, like gift.”

        That’s what Thoth Hermes thought right before the fall of Atlantis…

        ;)

        (just playin’….)

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      2. Sweetpea’s avatar

        I too Anonymous get some dirty feel…When I’m massaging…yikes…My Draconic Sun and Merc Virgo…Thank gawd for anti-bacterial soap

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        1. Sweetpea’s avatar

          Oh my goodness…..lol….

          Meant “dirty feet”…but the ~feel~ works too….Just not pervy feels

          :)

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  26. Bullish Cassie’s avatar

    My favorite way to gaslight the Virgo in my life is to reply that I simply don’t care about whatever he’s trying to nag me to death over. A Virgo does NOT understand the concept of “not caring” about something. Anything.

    Does. not. compute!

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