Yo, Find-My-Goddess dude, all is forgiven! Okay, Ryan O’Neal seems like an abject prick. Having a background in journalism, i tend not to judge peeps being slagged off in the media, as i know how easily they can be stitched up, taken out of context etc. But the Daily Mail’s “I Chatted Up My Own Daughter At Farrah Fawcett’s Funeral” article on Ryan O’Neal is SOMETHING ELSE.
It is short & basically a pithy little summary of the Vanity Fair piece out soon but YICK.
So, okay, I whip up his chart and go looking for astrological prick indicators (A.P.I.) and voila – the classic afflicted Mars. Ladies and male gays, take note. The “afflicted” Mars is the classic astro-omen of trouble when you are looking at men. Not all men with a trickily aspected Mars are difficult pricks with drugs or violence issues but plenty are. PLEASE don’t e-mail me to defend your precious snookums who has never laid a hand on you excepting for tantric sex at which he excels and he always puts the rubbish out sans complaint. I am just saying that in SOME cases, a man with Mars square his Saturn, Uranus, Pluto or Neptune can be a piece of work.
Ryan O’Neal is a multiple conjunct Taurus. He has Sun Venus at Zero degrees Taurus so there is sex appeal, beauty and charm for sure, prob v.strong before dissipated. And so Sun, Venus, Lilith, Part of Fortune, Saturn, Jupiter and Uranus ALL In Taurus and all in the 11th house. Which gives him a strong Aqua-Uranian flavour. So he is a multiple conjunct Taurus + it’s squaring his Mars and Moon in Aquarius…So he’s a Fixed Square in motion. Could be a saint, of course, but also immense frustration & could alternate between cloying neediness/control freakery and Aqua spaciness/don’t fence-me-in OR ELSE. Just to add to the fixed square theme, he’s got squares from Pluto in Leo as well.
And he’s got Neptune all over his Aqua-Moon this year & next so now what? MORE Neptunian substances??? He could claim to be in touch with Farrah Fawcett from the Other Side and try to set up a church. Neptune-Moon can be super-spiritual and awakening but given the Daily Mail story above, I am not confident of this guy’s form. Seriously read it!
And, given the massive conflict between Taurus & Aquarius in this guys chart, what could have done (or do!) to create a better expression of it??? He’s Cancerian Rising so parenthood could have been his salvation. But, well, hitting on your daughter at your lovers funeral AND introducing another child to drugs – allegedly – would be an odd form of it, no? Poor Farrah.
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::shudder:: yes, poor Farrah!
I have Mars sq Pluto, and never really thought of it as being afflicted as they are joint rulers of Scorp (so have an affinity?)… but as CUB has his pluto and mars in exactly the same set up as mine (i.e. Pluto 22 Virgo, Mars 16 Sag) maybe we were like a double whammy mars-affliction when together?? His Mars is trine his Saturn though (cj MY venus) so maybe that prevents him from being a total prick… although I would never let him hang with my kids without me for many reasons.
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In declinations his Mars and Uranus are contraparellel (same as conjunct). Classic position for MALE infidelity. Also associated with temper explosions.
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Eeek! Eek! Eek! Taureans gone wrong are almost as horrid as meanie-pants low Scorps.
I know, I know … I blathered on and on and ON about the Double Bullshit Artist a few months back, so won’t go over THAT old turf again, but as you rightly pointed out in a thread on Ze Bullz yonks ago Mystic, Taurus is like a big ol’ cruise liner, so utterly stubborn that it’s very difficult for them to change course once they’ve set off in a certain direction. So if they’re fuqed in the head, they’re Really Fuqed-In-The-Head. If they’re off course, they’re so totally heading for Hades.
Poor luvs. I really adore Taureans so it’s very hard to watch them slowly but surely head straight for eternal damnation. They don’t do nuffin by halves do they? Tho’ of course if they’re a well balanced Bull they’re just Gorgeous.
You know I think the Indians have got it going on – astrologically directed arranged marriages. Anything must be better than my (usually) lousy picks. If there’s a Mars square Neptunian loitering about, it’s like “yay .. come over here and give me grief with all your emotional crap and addiction problems, cause ya know it’s not like I’ve got better things to do with my time!”. I also have this THING for Moon in Libra men … I’ve fancied 4 of them in a row. FOUR. How is that possible????
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you’re funny prowlncat.
4 moon in Libras in a row… obviously something to learn there. As “they” say – there’s no such thing as coincidence.
I had 4 Sagg guys in a row!! Obviously an affinity with my Moon in Sagg. I have a little crush on someone at the moment (who’s unavailable – gawd… why oh why!) and i don’t know his sign yet but i have a funny feeling he’s a Sagg too. Hehe.
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I reckon they’ve got some Moon in Libra pheremone thing going on scorpy. Re the Sag blokes – maybe you’re feeling restless and need some action??
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geez prowlincat!
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Prowln darling…well, when I was on Le Break from Le Scorp, I decided to take my sexual destiny into my own hands. Uhm, NOT that way. Ok, that way but what I meant was I actually ended up answering a personal for who else but ANOTHER Scorp which when I cheekily suggested this was all just for fun as I was still recovering from the previous one, earned me a lecture as to why I ought not be venturing forth if indeed my heart was elsewhere blah de blah…
He like…turned into my Dad in zero to 60.
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MWOTHWAT-iis ….. Prowlers yr cracking me up!!
reeks also of mon-Arian-Ex. hence the ‘Ex’ in that factor!
lesson here is a Two Way street doesn’t blend well with a My Way street, or something xox-
…WHWAY!!
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Holy moly! Am a toro myself, but have to agree, I have seen that stubborn male toro crap myself first hand – in my case it was Aries sun, Toro rising ex-husband with serious MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY-itis. And a good helping of ‘poor me, my troubled youth, I know I’m a prick but I can’t help it, blame my mother, boo hoo’ when I finally called him on it, too.
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Good Lord, that is my Scorp, Toro moon/rising ex in a nutshell.
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Toro ex boyfriend of my Sagg daughter would just say after cancelling and calling five minutes before they were meant to meet up for some time together…I’m sorry this is just the way I am…I’ve always been this way, I don’t think I’ll be changing…this is it…so after long drawn out leaving…going back for more of the same and eventually getting it that this really was it…Sagg daughter had a nice break and is now going out with a fellow Sagg and it according to both parties is pretty fantastic.
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LL, wasn’t your Sagg daughter seeing an older Scorp guy… or was that Spazzy Aqua daughter?
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Nah that was Spazza, and she made the decision to move on. Thank you baby jeebers.
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Oh dear, my FireLover seems to have Moon in Taurus and Mars in square to Saturn….could this explain the grief he gives me? He implies that he’s perfectly reasonable and that our ‘misunderstandings’ are all my ‘fault’ (although he would never say ‘fault’, as he’s very p.c.).
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you’ve gotta start putting some of it back on him SF – otherwise you start hating yourself for always ’somehow’ doing the wrong thing, and he becomes mr always perfect golden boy. People like that are always moving the goal posts so You are always Wrong. Prepare to brave the shitstorm and confront his crap……..
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thanks UP for the encouragement…I really need to move on or just accept things as they are – have to admit that he has no empathy where the Leo Ego is concerned.
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yes..i hope i didn’t sound too full on, I was speaking from a personal experience (LTR with vile pisces man)
an astrologer i saw once said to check out the moon for each person – as we were identical with sun/asc, our moons squared thus gave us the ‘challenge’ needed for a r’ship to grow (no challenge = no relationship i assume).as they say, you can’t change him – but you *can* change how you respond to / deal with him. whatever happens you’ll be ok – good luck SF
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Yuck – sick fuqer – how could you not know your own daughter!? He’s burned out his brain cells, but he should be in prison for starting his son’s on it
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Yes FF, the article in the daily mail captions him as saying, “and I saw this beautiful tall swedish woman and I asked, do you have a car? do you want a drink?” I mean, chatting implies SOME conversation…he gave me the impression he was ready to hump her leg. Euuw.
I will say though he did note that he was always a jerk… candor.
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Can’t believe he didn’t recognise his own daughter – what a jerk!
So if you are a woman with mars square saturn what does that mean? male issues??
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i was wondering the same thing. Hehe. I have Mars conj Pluto and opposite Saturn. Definitely very feisty.
Speaking of jerks. I’m sure you’ve heard that shock jock Kyle Sanderlands has been taken off the air and sacked by Channel 10. His career is pretty much over according to the experts… and all around the eclipse!.
I’m loving Pluto in Cap – weeding out the crap. Power to the people!
Kyle is a Gem with moon in Capricorn. Merc in Gem, venus in Taurus, mars in Aqua.-
yes I did hear that – wonder if he has an afflicted saturn?!
All that Gem for Kyle no wonder he is such a chatterbox – so I wonder if that means he has venus in taurus sq mars in aqua – would give him similar jerk qualities maybe to ryan then. do u know where his saturn was SR?
Karma Kyle. I noticed though they are trying to keep Jackie O out of it and kinda get him to take the fall (which he so deserves) – probably to keep her 4 advertising $$
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yeah that’s what i thought – Karma!
His Jupiter in Scorp, Saturn in Taurus. (10 June 1971)
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She (jackie o) actually stopped the interview and asked the girl if she was ok..whilst Kyle kinda blithely tried to continue, so that’s prob why she’s not getting the flak…heard a replay on JJJ…makes you wonder what our world is coming to when this is considered ok radio fodder to begin with…even the girl’s own mother seemed to have no idea what sort of pain she was inflicting on her own daughter…
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without trying to reignite the whole debate, I still don’t undertstand why the girl’s mother / parents are not copping anything from this???????!!!!!!! she’s the one who brought her in there in the first place!!
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i know, i know what an awful mother! I think DOCS are looking into it but the poor girl doesn’t need any more publicity.
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The radio station management needs to take responsibility for that whole mess. It should never have gone to air, and was shabbily conceived in the first place. The mother is a worry!
Plus, it’s interesting the radio station and channel ten created the monster that is Kyle Sandilands, encouraging and abetting his mediocre vileness and now they’re crucifying him. As robots would say,’pfffffft’.
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at least there’s no nude pictorial lol ! and maybe we can thank mark for not giving us that too !!!
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hmm yeah i was wondering the same thing – what does afflicted Mars mean in women? or are the A.P.Is for women different? Afflicted Venus?
i had no idea ryan o`neal was such a creep. and the fact that no-one at all has a kind word to say about him.
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Yeah, I’d say Mars/Saturn in women tends to mean that you are attracted to angry assholes. I’d say to REALLY watch who you date and have your friends check out your man and give approval or not before you marry.
(Afflicted Venus, in my experience since I have it, more tends to mean that you feel like the asshole all the time. I don’t date assholes. Also, I am pretty unfeminine in demeanor even though I dress girly.)
I have a lovely friend who grew up in a happy home with happy parents. She is married to an Aquastell (http://silverwheelastrology.blogspot.com/2007/02/eddie-izzard-and-aquastells.html) who is bipolar and changes on a DIME into Prick Mode. I cannot figure out why the hell she’d go for this, because she didn’t grow up with it, except for the astrology because she has Mars and Saturn conjunct. Of course he gets his joy in life from harassing and ragging on her (note to girls who love Eddie Izzard: you wouldn’t wanna date him) and she puts up with it, and I wish she’d just LEAVE already.
Farrah, as I recall, also has Mars Saturn, so she must have been used to guys being pricks.
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Interesting – thanks Jennifer. Yes I have mars/saturn sq and def had that attraction to men who weren’t that good for me earlier on in life. Think I have hopefully moved on from that now.
One of those guys had a venus/saturn square – I remember another astrologer telling me that would mean he would have a tendency to blame the women in his life for things – and boy was that true.
Interesting what attracts us to people – I remember reading some research yrs ago about how they did experiments and women who took the pill were more likely to be attracted to aggressive, bad boy types and then when they weren’t on the pill they were more attracted to calmer men who made good dads.
Hormones and planets – can’t escape them!
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Cannot BELIEVE he so blithely admits these things…i have heard horrendous things about him over the past few years.
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Reminds me of the time in my teens when I was helping my Dad pick out a sports jacket and the sales clerk asked what his wife thought….Yuck…
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Haha sweetpea… my dilemma was opening the door to a salesman/pollster/charity monger and them going, “Hey, is your Dad home?”
This was when I was married. And I used to just turn around and yell, “Daaaaaaddddd.” haha Ex did not like.
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I’ve always felt that someone should have stepped on Kyle at birth and Ryan as well. Both are repulsive sad excuses for men.
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god that article is really disturbing.
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What about conjunctions with Pluto, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune to Mars?
Experienced a Virgo Mars conjunct Uranus & Pluto, this guy would most probably chat up his own daughter as well… not knowing he had a daughter at all, of course. Interestingly he also displays the Toro-Aqua axis with his Taurus rising square Aqua Venus. puhhh… Fixed to the Max, felt like being in a relationship with Mussolini. I have just recently been informed that he actually had SEVERAL extra-girlfriends throughout our entire relationship (I left him last December)… Of course during our relationship he was a jealous monster when I even dared to talk to other men in whatever context… His Sun conjunct Saturn/Mercury in early Pisces btw.
Personally I’ve got Mars conjunct Uranus, semisextile Saturn/Pluto in Libra and Neptune in Saggo, Square Moon, Opposition to Chiron, so the same question: what about women with afflicted mars? Besides the type of guy it mght indicate… (there I would be spot on…lol)
My current crush has Mars conjunct Neptune (+Lillith, Juno, Rising), which I enjoy very much. Probably the mutable energy and a completely different temper…
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what about women with afflicted mars?
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nebulous virgo: what are your orbs? If you are doing whole sign, the effect is inherently mild. If within 3 degrees, they are strong.Mars with Uranus in hard aspect (square, conjunction, opposition, even quincunx) indicates unfaithfulness in MEN. For a woman, it would be Venus.
But Mars and Uranus together indicate restlessness and temper. Also, curiously clipped speech. It’s not a good pairing even with the softer aspects (trine) but marks you out from the crowd.
Ryan O’Neal had a parallel (contraparallel) pairing of Mars and Uranus in declinations, and was unfaithful and hot headed.
Mars, Saturn, and Uranus are not a good combination. A trine or sextile work out better, but I wouldn’t put Mars with either of the other two. In a trine or sextile, it may indicate the ability to perservere.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
IM CLEAN! NO WAIT MARS SQUARE PLUTO :O IM A PIECE OF WORK!
MAYBE IM A REVENGFUL ASSHOLE! LOL
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….. thanks for posting that article. disturbing as it was, I wasn’t across that part of their family history / fallout. still trying to get my head around it!
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Yep, those O’Neals had some hardcore problems. Tatum got big into drugs in the 80s. Although anyone with a father like that AND who married John McEnroe would.
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Oh dear, just worked out last two boyfriends had afflicted mars – one mars square uranus (and jupiter), the other mars square neptune…gosh can really pick them!..thinking maybe will have to do charts in future before 1st date and work out really hard why I’m attracted to/attracting these sorts of guys in the first place, so can actually move on!!!
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Melissa, what’s YOUR Mars up to? You probably have an afflicted Mars yourself, I’m guessing.
I definitely think you need to have your friends check out your guys before you commit to any. Find guys who are physical and working out that Mars somewhere other than on your personality, you know?
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My Mars sq. Neputne guy’s Mars was opp. my Moon so synastry wise think that says alot. Only aspect my Mars makes besides on my Asc., is inconjunction to Moon in 8th….Until one finally gets mad, does tend to take alot and give benefit of the doubt to those who don’t actually deserve it. Adjustment in emotions and own assertion needed…
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ryan killed farrah!
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Ryan wanted to marry Farrah before she died possibly for her money. She out smarted him and died first.
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Check out the DECLINATIONS chart – you can go to http://www.astro.com for that.
His Mars and Uranus are in parallel (contraparallel, technically….but the same influence, which is like a conjunction).
This indicates:
- temper problems….Mars and Uranus don’t sit well together, especially a conjunction or negative (square/semi-square, opposition) aspect. It makes him high-strung, individualistic, and hard to pin down. Also may make him explosive.
- infidelity in a male (Mars is the sex planet for a man, and Uranus is sudden change and inability to be shackled). The effect would be much better and moderate if there was a trine or sextile aspect (Paul McCartney comes to mind…)
His first name is “Charles” – the numerological influence of 22 in Chaldean numerology, and this indicates some tendency for unfaithfulness. See Prince Charles for comparison.
Additionally, his Venus is basically burned by the Sun (conjunction) or combust, and his Sun is made sensuous by Venus. That’s a weak pairing if you want faithfulness.
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