Celtic Astrology

Viggo Mortensen sexy

Sexy Druid Warriors always aid one’s interest in ye olde Celtic practices.

Celtic Astrology is fascinating, of course, but like Geomancy (the Celtic version of Feng Shui) not nearly enough is known about it, thanks to the persecution and genocide of the Pagans.

It has it’s own Zodiac & we’re all trees! I think it’s beautiful, though sadly incomplete…We are soon in the time of the Hazel Tree:

“20 July – 16 August


The Hazel was the tree of wisdom and it was a crime punishable by death to fell one. It was thought magical skills and knowledge could be gained from eating Hazel nuts. Hazel people are artistic. They have lively, analytical minds and make inspiring teachers. Imaginative, they are radical and idealistic thinkers.

The Ruling Deity – The Sea God Manannan Mac Lir, a master of disguise, rules this sign.

The Druic Animal – Salmon – To the Celts, the Salmon is the oldest and wisest animal, symbolizing inspiration – Hazels need to express their creativity or they can become morbid and introspective

Planetary Ruler – Mercury

Ogham Word – Coll”

YOU can go read the rest at the above Celtic Astro link.

Or just Google but be aware that peeps bicker a LOT over Celtic Astrology.

And if you click on the witch-burning link, that damned book (Malleus Malificarum) was like a best-seller. Can you believe it?

I read the whole thing one go on a day long ago in a sterile but comforting university library & found it so scary. It’s so dry and legal.

But imagine your local council using it as their handbook.

I had to keep looking up to remind myself that i was surrounded by trees, freedom, laws and relaxed students of all races & sexual identity, religion et al.

And what Tree are U? Does it FIT?

76 thoughts on “Celtic Astrology

  1. i like the idea of being a tree.
    except i am a hawthorn according to that – with spikiness that is useful as a protective shield. Come to think of it many of my friends would probably agree that description is apt. The rest of the hawthorn description sounds pretty gemini, and seems to fit.

    • I am Hawthorn too (but am Taurus… my venus is gemini tho… not sure whether that is interesting or not):
      “Hawthorn people are mercurial, innovative, creative and confident. Easily bored, they crave mental stimulation and challenge. They are eloquent and gifted performers, exuding natural charm.”
      I am pretty much into the mental stimulation and challenge… and I would like to think I exude natural charm… but it might be piffle…
      Was interested in the planetary ruler being Vulcan tho… and the deity Olwen (although I can’t find out much about her. Just that she was a daughter of a giant. Which is a bit naff, and I am sure there is more to her than this).
      Druic animal as the owl is awesome (I rescued an owl not that long ago)

      • Ok… am a little confused… in searching for more info on Olwen I found this webdsite and the dates I are different… on the one mystic has offfered I am on the cusp of Hawthorn and Williow. This one puts me smack bang in the middle of willow. Possibly more accurate (especially the memory stuff)… but alot less, I dunno… fun?

        http://novareinna.com/constellation/celtic.html

        • I’m still a hawthorn – and i reckon that description has more taurean things in it – like being sympathetic – not a gemini trait as far as I’ve noticed.
          The bit i like the best on that one va-g-g is its association with a class – and hawthorns are peasants. might explain my farm girl fantasies.

          • I too am a peasant… salt of the earth type:) Down the bottom they break the weeks up inot secondary trees… that part is _really_ interesting. Apparently I am some sort of willow walnut… or is that walnut willow?

          • venus-a-g-g where exactly do you find the weeks info eg walnut willow??

          • Scroll down… all the way down.

            I know this act gets a little tiring… its almost like there is too much info on the page…

          • Thanks so much venus-a-go-go!! Fascinating with the added layer of lesser influence, seems to really fit. I be of Celtic origins an all, love the magic stuff.

        • Heck, that site is very detailed. Thanks V a-go go. You rescued an owl?! Do tell.

          • It was lying stunned on the road… It was a giant owl… so I managed to talk 2 drunk young men into helping me get it off the road. A pajero kept on beep ing me (toolbag). got it safely into someones front yard and then called wildlife rescue.
            Felt virtuous for a while after that:)
            The site is really detailed… but I agree with FF… the extra layer makes it pretty fascinating.

  2. I read about this & Geomancy just the other day it was fascinating!

    I am an Oak Tree & I think it fits. Determined, self-motivated, enthusiastic, responsible, natural leaders, calm in a crisis, not easily swayed by opposition, serious minded, optimistic, cheerful & never gives up easily….. ever ;)

  3. According to an el-cheapo cardboard-wheel ‘what’s your druidic astro’ thingy that is lying round the office (why??) I am a birch tree / white stag – which reads exactly like Capricorn – so I kinda gave it some credit.
    However your link there offers a tree not on this little cardboard wheel – the ROWAN TREE – which according to them, is what I am, and a much more arty / inspired / free-thinking version of the Capricorn qualities, blended with a little Aqua perhaps… and a Dragon totem animal too… so I think I’ll stick with that one instead.

  4. ummm… looks like you’re kinda screwed if you’re born on June 21. What’s with that? The solstice doesn’t get along well with trees??

    • I could so go with getting down an into Viggo right now as Aragon. Cold shower and bed for me though. In my dreams ….

  5. I wonder if the Nthn hemi season or climate makes a difference. The Celtic for my birth date is Vine which is okaaay, but I reckon shifting it six months so it corresponds with Sthn hemi late winter produced a more accurate result for me – The Ash – which is more flighty, neurotic and ruled by the trickster. I suppose the purists might not like some upstart messing with the dates though.

  6. The Reed is eeriely apt for my scorp-ex. My son and I are both Hazel trees which i like the sound of – ruled by Mercury – yep we both never shut up. Aqua-girl is an Ash tree. The Ash description sounds more Uranian/Mercurial than Neptunian (although there is a ? on Neptune).

  7. I’d say the Hazel tree is pretty spot on for me when I’m at my best. The salmon makes sense too in terms of how I feel I keep adjusting and searching for a way to get forward sometimes against the flow.There are times where I try to go with the flow, but frankly it’s not as stimulating as looking for the gaps, the little moments when creativity and opportunity combine and you can just dance through. Actually the imagery of a Salmon leaping against the odds is pretty apt. I like the feeling of achieving things with a bit of work and ingenuity.

  8. My tree is the Alder and in reading sounded very Plutoish…

    Sure enough…”Deity: The Alder deity is Bran the Blessed, God of the Spirit World, Celtic Raven God and Welsh God of the Underworld. He is also the God of Prophecy”

    Corresponds with Mars as well and being Aries that suits.. (Daveyl you’re and Alder too if you don’t mind me saying so!!) Trees of the world (Like in Lord of the Rings) unite!

      • Oh wow, I did a different Celtic tree link than the one you have above Mystic and was a different tree (the Alder, not the Willow).

        In any case, had a dream a long time ago about my brother. In the dream was reading in the family bible (before I threw it away I guess) and there were names of family members listed there (as there were in true life)….noted my brother was a tree, but what kind of tree my dream did not convey.

  9. The descriptions are relevant to the northern hemisphere..I think this is like Wiccan Sabbats and maybe should be reversed for us? What do you think? IT makes more sense to me.

    For the 21st of June:-

    The Mid-summer Solstice and the beginning of the New year, when the Oak King’s power passes to the young Holly King.

    For the 22nd of June to the 19th July (My birthday is the 23rd of June)

    When Celtic Chieftains chose a successor, he was crowned with a Holly wreath.

    SO… for Southern Hemisphere it would be about power returning to the Oak King at this date.

    This is really weird because I had a dream last night where I was sorting through a box of old stuff and I found a silver crown and a silver acorn. I was sitting on the tram THIS MORNING and went oh! Oak King! Cool! and then you post this. :-)

    • I am not so sure. The willow is pretty spot on for me…
      … I figure that the tree are relevant to their seasons… and the seasons (as well as the trees) would be completely different down south.

  10. funny that iranian astrology also claim’s the ‘tree’ system… I’m a Lime tree, and it couldn’t be more accurate. Checked out some of the other trees of peeps i know, and pretty dead on also…

  11. ooh look! it’s viggo mortensen. how do i love thee? let me count the ways…

  12. Ive got a chart on Celtic astrology in my room! Guys…. this one isnt correct well date wise anyway!… um ok heres my version
    The Birch Tree: 24th Dec – 20 Jan Animal: White Stag
    The Rowan Tree: 21st Jan – 17th Feb Animal: Dragon
    The Ash Tree: 18Feb – 17th March Animal: Snake
    The Alder Tree: 18th March – 14th April Animal: Fox
    The Willow Tree: 15 April – 12th May Animal: Rabbit
    The Hawthorn Tree: 13th May – 9Th June Animal: Owl
    The Oak Tree: 10th June – 7th July Animal: Sparrow
    The Holly Tree: 8th July – 4th August Animal: Unicorn
    The Hazel Tree: 5th August – 1st sep Animal: Salmon
    The Vine tree: 2nd Sep – 29th Sep Animal: Swan
    The Ivy Tree: 30th Sep – 27th Oct Animal: Butterfly
    The Reed Tree: 28th Oct – 24th Nov Animal: Hound
    The Elder Tree: 25th Nov – 23rd Dec Animal: Raven

    Ive Got More Info – a short Paragraph on each if you wish i can post up but no ones probably interested :P
    matt

    • Hi Matt, how was the latest Harry Potter flick? My daughter was so annoyed that she has school camp this week and will have to wait til Sat to see it.

      btw i’m still a Hazel tree by your chart as well. thanks :-)

      • And I’m an Alder tree still with this chart as well…AND a fox ;) …Post a paragraph if you like Matty. My maiden name is Potter and there IS magic in these here bones…

      • The HARRY POTTER FLIC FF WAS AMAZING!!!!!!!!!! OMG OMG OMG BUT ANYWAY
        I ALSO FOUND THIS IN ONE OF MY BOOKS
        The tops of the beech tree have sprouted of late,
        Are changed and renewed from their withered state.

        When the beech prospers, though spells and litanies
        The oak tops entangle, there is hope for trees.

        I have plundered the fern, through all secrets I spy,
        Old Math ap Mathonwy knew no more than I.

        For with nine sorts of faculty God has gifted me,
        I am fruit of fruits gathered from nine sorts of tree–

        Plum, quince, whortle, mulberry, respberry, pear,
        Black cherry and white, with the sorb in me share.

        From my seat at Fefynedd, a city that is strong,
        I watched the trees and green things hastening along.

        Retreating from happiness they would fein be set
        In forms of the chief letters of the alphabet.

        Wayfarers wandered, warriors were dismayed
        At renewal of conflicts such as Gwydion made;

        Under the tongue root a fight most dread,
        And another raging, behind, in the head.

        The alders in the front line began the affray.
        Willow and rowan-tree were tardy in array.

        The holly, dark green, made a resolute stand;
        He is armed with many spear-points wounding the hand.

        With foot-beat of the swift oak heaven and earth rung;
        “Stout Guardian of the Door”, his name in every tongue.

        Great was the gorse in battle, and the ivy at his prime;
        The hazel was arbiter at this charmed time.

        Uncouth and savage was the fir, cruel the ash tree–
        Turns not aside a foot-breadth, straight at the heart runs he.

        The birch, though very noble, armed himself but late:
        A sign not of cowardice but of high estate.

        The heath gave consolation to the toil-spent folk,
        The long-enduring poplars in battle much broke.

        Some of them were cast away on the field of fight
        Because of holes torn in them by the enemy’s might.

        Very wrathful was the vine whose henchmen are the elms;
        I exalt him mightily to rulers of realms.

        Strong chieftains were the blackthorn with his ill fruit,
        The unbeloved whitethorn who wears the same suit.

        The swift-pursuing reed, the broom with his brood,
        And the furse but ill-behaved until he is subdued.

        The dower-scattering yew stood glum at the fight’s fringe,
        With the elder slow to burn amid fires that singe.

        And the blessed wild apple laughing in pride
        From the Gorchan of Maeldrew, by the rock side.

        In shelter linger privet and woodbine,
        Inexperienced in warfare, and the courtly pine.

        But I, although slighted because I was not big,
        Fought, trees, in your array on the field of Goddeu Brig.

        BIRCH: To the Druids, the Birch (often referred to as the “Lady of the Woods” due to its grace and beauty) represented renewal, rebirth and inception, since it was the first tree to come into leaf after the Winter Season. The Birch along with the Elder were said to stand on either side of the one “Nameless Day” (December 23). This slender but determined tree, which represented the seed potential of all growth, is hardier than even the mighty Oak and will thrive in places where the Oak will fail to flourish. It also signifies cleanliness and purity. The Birch once fulfilled many purposes…from providing handles for brooms and axes to the manufacture of cloth and childrens’ cradles. It is particularly well-known for its use in making writing parchment and oil from the bark was often used to treat skin conditions and depression. People were once “birched” in order to drive out evil spirits, while twigs were given to newlyweds to ensure fertility. Witches would use Birch twigs bound with Ash for their broomsticks or “besoms.” Birch has been known to cure muscular pains and the sap used in the manufacture of wine, beer and vinegar. It is the rod of a Birch that Robin Red Breast used to slay the Wren in a furze or gorse bush on Saint Stephen’s Day. In Wales, the Birch is a tree of love and wreaths of Birth are woven as love tokens. Its trunk was frequently use to form the traditional maypole and boughs were hung over cradles and carriages to protect infants from the glamor of the Little People.

        ROWAN: Rowan trees were planted near doors and gates to ward off evil influences and branches were attached to barns in order that the cattle housed inside would be protected from misfortune. This tree was also believed to guard the gateway to the spirit world and its boughs often used for dowsing and deflecting spells. The Rowan is sometimes called the “Whispering Tree” and ancient legend tells that it has secrets to reveal to those who would but listen. The Rowan has been associated throughout history with protection against wickedness and is believed to be the wood which was used to engrave the Norse Runes. Its name is linked with the Norse “Runa” or “Rundall,” meaning “a charm.” It is also associated with the Sanskrit “Runall” meaning “magician.” The Cornish and Scots would carry an equal-sided cross of Rowan to protect them from harm and wands were often placed over doorways to houses in order to ensure good fortune. In Wales, Rowans used to be planted in churchyards so that they might to watch over the dead. The Rowan, a tree of protection and insights, was known to be a tree belonging to the Faery. Its wood was frequently used for bows, favored second only to Yew for this purpose. When sliced in two, the orange-red Rowan berry reveals a pentagram symbol of protection. Thus, this tree was believed to possess the ability to protect from enchantment and trickery. It was once thought that the berries of the Rowan were so sacred that the Gods guarded them jealously and kept them from humankind. The Rowan was also believed to enhance strength with courage. The Ancient Druids would light fires of Rowan wood to help induce insights as to how a battle might progress and to invite the Faery folk of the Sidhe to fight alongside them, thus lending aid in the fray. The Tuatha De Danaan are said to have brought the Rowan to Ireland from Tir Tairnagire, the “Land of Promise.” In Irish legend, the first human female was created from Rowan (the first male being created from Alder).

        ASH: The Ash was a sacred chieftain tree, believed to “court the flash” since it was prone to be struck by lightning. The wood of the Ash was thought to be enchanted and was used by the Druids to fashion wands and spears. Its twigs were placed in circles as a protection from snakes, while witches would use the timber as handles for their broomsticks. Children would be passed through the branches of an Ash in order that they might be protected and to cure them from illness. Ash leaves were placed under pillows to induce prophetic dreams or placed in bowls of water to ward off ailments. The Celts believed that the Ash originated in the Great Deep or the Undersea Land of Tethys. It belongs to the trilogy of sacred Irish trees (the other two being the Oak and the Hawthorn) and is said to offer particular protection from death by drowning. The seeds of the Ash have long been used in love divination. If the seeds did not appear on a certain tree, then its owner was thought to have been unlucky in love or a future venture would be unsuccessful. In Northern England, it was once believed that if a woman placed an Ash leaf in her left shoe, then she would be fortunate enough to immediately meet her future spouse. In Greece, the Ash was sacred to the Sea God Poseidon and in Ancient Wales and Ireland, oars were made of this wood. The shade of this tree is said to be harmful to plants because its roots will strangle other roots.

    • Those dates make more sense to me, matt. They would make moi a hazel, which I find more fitting than vine. I still think adjusting for southern hemisphere climate makes sense though.

  13. ALDER: The Alder was believed by the Druids to link both male and female principles, thus helping to create a balance between the two within each individual. It is also associated with courage and represents the evolving spirit. Considered to be a tree of death and resurrection, it may have been used (along with the Poplar) in the fe rod which was kept in pre-Christian cemeteries for the measuring of graves and corpses. The fe rod was handled only by an appointed official and was believed to have been carved with an Ogham inscription. Resistant to the rotting element of water, wood from the Alder was often used in the making of bridges, boats, clogs and milk jugs. It was also frequently used in the making of magical whistles, flutes and pipes. It was once a crime to fell an Alder since the angry tree spirit was believed to take revenge by burning down houses. If felled, however, the tree literally “bleeds” by turning from white to red. Red dyes were once made from the bark, brown dyes from the twigs and green dyes from the flowers of this tree. The Alder is a Faery tree sacred to Bran and, therefore, oracular in nature and often used for divination. Medicinally, it would be used to rid people of fleas and boils. In Irish legend, the first human male was created from Alder (the first female being created from Rowan).

    WILLOW;The Willow symbolizes the female and rhythms of the circle. This tree was sacred to the Moon and, in Celtic lore, the Universe was hatched from two crimson serpent eggs (which contained the Sun and the Earth) hidden among the boughs of the Willow. Hens’ eggs were later substituted for those of the serpent and symbolically eaten as part of the Beltane feasting. This ritual was eventually transferred to the celebration of Easter in the Christian calendar with the eggs becoming Easter eggs. Staves cut from this tree were often used for fencing, roofing house and lunar wands. Along with Sandalwood, Willow bark aided in the conjuring of spirits forth from the Otherword. It was also said to help soothe those who felt bitter or jealous and proved to be an effective medicine in the cure of worms and dysentery. Both Willow bark (containing Salicin) and the Primrose (the plant associated with the Willow) were once used as analgesics, particularly in the treatment of arthritic diseases. Pregnant women would lay cloths beneath the tree in order to catch the leaves, which were believed to assure an easy birthing process. Always known as a “tree of enchantment,” the Willow is reported to have bestowed the mystic gift of eloquence upon Orpheus when he visited the sacred grove of Persephone at the Temple of Delphi in Greece. The Celts associated the Willow with poets and young suitors would commonly wear a sprig of Willow to acknowledge the power and status of the old “wise one” (the Cailleach of Celtic myth who was the Crone aspect of the triple goddess and to whom this tree was sacred). The words “Witchcraft” and “Wicca” are both derived from the word “Willow.” The Willow was also host to the sacred Mistletoe of the Druids, which was often more commonly found growing on the Willow and the Poplar than it was on even the mighty Oak. This tree was once referred to as “Witches Aspirin,” probably not only for its reputation in resolving dilemmas, but also for its headache-relieving properties. In the past, some cultures have been known to “Wear the Green Willow” in order that others might be aware they were going through a period of mourning and Druidical sacrifices were customarily offered in Willow-wicker baskets. It was once said that if someone felt an overwhelming need to confess, the secret could be shared with a Willow and be forever trapped. Its wood was often used for planing and lining burial graves due to its associated symbolism with death and protection.

    HAWTHORN: The Hawthorn was a symbol of psychic protection due to its sharp thorns. It was also generally seen as a tree which brought good luck to the owner and prosperity to the land upon which it stood. It belongs to the trilogy of sacred Irish trees (the other two being the Oak and the Ash). Faery spirits were believed to dwell in Hawthorn hedges, which were planted as protective shrubs around fields, houses and churchyards. The Hawthorn was once thought to offer psychic protection to the traveler. The twigs would frequently be used as a curative for depression and the powdered seeds used to cure gallstones. Often used for walking sticks and to make fires, the Hawthorn also formed the Maypole around which the Celts would dance at Beltrane…the onset of Summer. The Hawthorn was associated with both the sacred and the unlucky (some holding the belief that it was from the Hawthorn that the crown of thorns used at the Crucifixion of Christ was made, for example). To destroy this tree was to incur great peril to the individual who was responsble for such an act. The Hawthorn was embodied in the character of the chief giant Yspaddaden in a Welsh romance of Kulhwch and Olwen. As a guardian figure who attempts to protect the virginity of Olwen, he is felled and the blooms of Summer soon open. Thus, the Hawthorn symbolized the advance of Summer and the defeat of Winter. In ancient times, young girls would rise at dawn in order to bathe in dew gathered from Hawthorn flowers, thus ensuring their beauty for the coming year. The blossoms, especially the white variety, were also used to decorate halls and worn as crowns by maidens in wedding ceremonies. The Celts believed the Hawthorn could assist in releasing negative and/or blocked energy held within.

    OAK: The Oak was the principal sacred tree of the Druids, symbolizing truth and steadfast knowledge as well as the turning of the year. During this time, Druids would carve a circle in the tree for protection against lightning. The Oak was representative of the trials that individuals experience in life while changing and becoming who they were meant to be. This tree represented the soul which, in Celtic terms, was the “Eye of God.” Doors made of Oak were believed to keep out evil. The word “door” derives from the Sanskrit “duir,” Ogham for Oak and a word which symbolizes solidity and protection. In the realm of the forest, the Oak is the King of Trees, standing mightily solid with great branches, matched only be even greater roots. Often struck by lightning, the force of the strike and the heat bursts the sap and stem of the Oak apart, leaving the trunk gnarled and withered…yet, the Oak still manages to survive for decades or even centuries. The growth of this tree is slow but sure and it is the forest’s marker point, cornerstone and refuge. The Druids often taught lessons beneath the shade of the Oak.

  14. HOLLY: In the Ogham, it was stated that the Holly was “best in the fight,” since it helped balance both the positive and negative aspects of the self, thus revealing a new direction. It was believed to restore lost energy, bestowing the strength needed to continue toward a resolution. Despite its prickly leaves (which afford protection to the tree during Winter), the Holly offered empathy and understanding within its branches and was often associated with goodwill and love…virtues of certain Gods and Godesses. For this reason, it was frequently planted near homes for protection and to ward off evil, psychic attacks and demons. When Celtic chieftains chose a successor, that successor was crowned with a Holly wreath and branches of the tree were carried by Celtic men for good luck. The Holly was said to ease thoughts of jealousy and mistrust while providing protection from evil spirits. Also reputed to tame wild beasts, babies were bathed in water from the leaves in order to protect them from harm.

    HAZEL: The Hazel was considered to be the Tree of Wisdom and to fell one was once a crime punishable by death. It was believed that magickal skills and knowledge could be gained from eating Hazel nuts, which are the emblems of concentrated wisdom. In Irish folklore, the Hazel tree was the home of Bile Ratha, the poetic fairy. The Hazel is also strongly associated with mediation and meditation. The Druids were the inheritors of the knowledge of measurement and calculation, skills of the earlier “dodmen” who were the prehistoric surveyors of the key lines and trackways portrayed in the ancient chalk-cut figure of the Long Man of Wilmington who is shown holding staves or rods. Also skilled in the law, the Druids were often called upon to mediate in disputes concerning property and land boundaries, in much the same way as the surveyors of modern times. Twigs of Hazel are favored by water-diviners and for other methods of divination due to the sensitive nature of the tree and its close affinity with the element of water. It was once believed that the Mushrooms which grow on a Hazel could provide an individual with the ability to relocate what he or she may have lost.

    VINE:

    In the cool Celtic climate, the GrapeVine required much care in order to bear fruit and became symbolic of sacred knowledge and spiritual initiation, as well as a symbol of sensuality and emotions. The Vine of the Ogham Alphabet is the GrapeVine. Sacred to the deities, grapes were (and are still) used in the making of wine, allowing those who indulge to speak with truth…at least as they perceive it to be…and to release inhibitions. Wine was also once used to stimulate prophecy in the seers by allowing such sages to reach deep within their inner selves, with intuition acting as their guide

    IVY: The power of the Ivy lies in its ability to cling and bind, making it a potent symbol of determination and strength to the Druids. Ivy has been known to strangle trees and was once a portent of death and spiritual growth. Being evergreen in nature, the Ivy represented the perennial aspects of the human psyche. The Celts associated Ivy with their Lunar Goddess, Arianrhod, and their ritual to this deity marked the opening of the portal to the OtherWorld…or the Dark Side of the Moon. This door symbolized an entrance to the Realm of Faery and thus, the Ivy was representative of the mysterious and the mystical. Ivy was once carried by women for good luck and used to aid in fertility. When used correctly, it was said to heal headaches, muscle cramps and assist in the art of prophecy. Ivy was symbolic of the journey of the soul and the spiral toward to the self. It encouraged assistance toward others in their search so that they, in turn, might offer assistance. Considered to be powerful indeed by the Celts because of its ability to kill even the mightiest Oak, the Ivy has a tendency to create dense, inpenetrable thickets in the forest. It was regarded to be much more powerful than the Vine and rather sinister in nature.

    REED: The Druids believed the Reed to be a tree because of its dense system of roots. Cut reeds were used as pens and symbolized wisdom and scholarship. Identified with the submerged or hidden Dryad, the Reed was representative of the mysteries of death. It was associated with being both a saviour and a custodian as well as a symbol of royalty. It was used in the making of instruments such as flutes and pipes. Pan, the Greek God of Herds, Fertility and Male Sexuality (whose name is the root word of “panic”), is often depicted playing a syrinx…a pipe comprised of seven reeds. Traditionally a nomadic people, the Celts camped in one area throughout the Winter months and would break camp in the Spring when the first yellow blooms appeared on the Reed. The Reed was once believed to bring order out of chaos and legend holds that a Reed was thrust into Christ’s hand when he was mockingly robed in purple.

    ELDER: To the Celts, the Elder (also known as the “Tree of Faeries,” “Old Gal,” “Pipe Tree” and “Lady Ellhorn,” among others) was the symbol of both death and rebirth. Its twigs were said to enable the wearer to see spirits and experience visions. Justice was dispensed by the Druids beneath this tree. Much like the Winter Solstice itself, it highlighted a time of evolution. The Druids believed that it was during this period that their Sun or Solar Spirit was being held prisoner. It was also considered a time of trouble and indicative of the struggle for supremacy. By virtue of being considered sacred to the faeries, Elder branches were once hung above stables in order to protect horses from evil spirits. Paradoxically, in some parts of Europe, this tree was once generally regarded as an ally of witches. For many generations, it was thought to be unlucky to burn Elder and an omen of death to bring it indoors. In addition, it was also believed that anyone who cut the wood of this tree risked being turned into stone. In one Christian legend, it was from the branches of an Elder that Judas hanged himself after the betrayal of Christ…at which point the Elder forever lost its ability to grow straight and strong. In another, it is said that the cross upon which Christ was crucified was made of Elder…and the reason why the tree has stood in stooped remorse ever since. Some Irish legends claim that Saint Patrick used a branch of Elder in the form of a sacred rod in order to drive out all the serpents from Ireland. Often planted close to the home, the Elder was thought to offer protection against evil influences and lightning…based on the fact that the tree itself never seemed to get struck and it was hoped such immunity would extend to the nearly dwellings. In ancient times, it was believed that negative forces would be attracted by someone who fell asleep beneath an Elder tree. While slumbering, it was thought such a person would suffer horrific nightmares and become delirious upon waking.

    MATT
    THATS IT OMG THAT WAS MASSIVE – MY HANDS ARE KILLING ME I TYPED SOOO FAST LOL IM SORRY BOUT SPELLING LOL

    • What a Herculean typing effort, Matt. My arthritis aches at the thought of it.

      • I think he cut and post….Matty did you cut and paste? Now I REALY need to get to bed…yes this is addictive which is why I never get to bed on time!! :)

        • Thnx Matt for posting all this and doesn’t matter if you cut and paste or typed yourself but dang if you did, you faster than me and I’m fast!! x ;)

          • hahahah! well i typed my first two posts – i had just finished an english essay and my hand-keyboard-coordination skills were at their peak! the last one i found on the charts website. so im like ;O ur telling me that i wasted all that time typing like a maniac when i couldve just done that! omg frustrated but the first to are mine – the 2nd are from (the chart i have website) the net!
            ;) matt
            saggo astrologer in training!

  15. You guys are amazing with your interpretations of just about everything from pooncy furniture to celtic trees astrology and everything in between. I’m always amazed when I visit and I always get a laugh. Mystic you should do a book on the best of MM blogs. Some are hilarious and many insightful. Just wanted to have a rave here- hand me a tissue sniff sniff – I wuv u guys.

  16. Shit, it’s all true. Am a Hawthorn, according to the Novareinna link, also fall in the new moon half & then also under the influence of the Chestnut tree – each polarity seems to get closer & closer to how I act as a Gemini with Venus in Taurus, being sensual but also very impatient & ambitious (moon in Aries). It’s all so true of me as an individual that I wonder about cold reading – & yet looking at the other types I don’t feel that they even scratch the surface of me as an individual. Once again, I’m spooked and amazed by the way astrology shines a light on our hidden selves.

    What about Indian astrology Mystic? That tells me I have moon in Pisces which I wouldn’t totally disagree with either.

  17. Matthew, you’re a darling.

    I’m a Birch. I think I like being the Lady of the Woods and I white stag. I completely fit my family heritage. My family’s crest has a white hart. In Chinese Astro I’m a rooster and our coat of arms has a snake torque d’or encircling three cocks. Probably why we’re all a bit odd. Whoever was granted the arms had three to play with :roll:

  18. According to this I’m holly, but the best thing about that is having a unicorn as my power animal.. *punches air*

  19. Totally addictive :) The time difference irks me as I only get to comment way down the line on some posts.

    And about Viggo. I saw him in Eastern Promises the other day – he BECAME the character. Not just a pretty face but such a deep actoir.

  20. I don’t have time now to read the Matty posts – but am putting aside a couple of hours over the weekend!

    In the first I was a cusp Reed or Elder, but the Reed (the irony in being a Reed is almost too much for me….) fits better – and in the second lot of info, I’m a dead set Reed, with Walnut influences – as Walnut is my fave cooking nut, I’m a happy girl!

  21. Well according to two celtic sites im an Alder, mysts link says Im a Willow, one is male one is female ?

  22. I am in love with the idea of being a tree.
    Even better, I am a hazelnut tree, and the description fits me.
    Am off to go sing in Elvish to the hills…….

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  24. Interesting that this link was featured as a sub link to your “House Tenants” Mystic.

    Am getting ready to call Libran brother today (his b-day was the 20th)…

    “Celtic Astrology….and we’re all trees!”

    Growing up there used to be a family bible and the names and dates of those born to the family were there. Too bad I threw my bible away in a fit of rebellion…”I will find God myself!” (typically Arien, Cap Moon? But in the bible Christ spoke to my Neptunian MC with Neptune trine from 5th).. Appropriate tho, I think, when we are searching and have yet to find answers “out there”, but the family bible a weath of knowledge as far as family history. My daughter did a genetic line (maternal) and we came to America way back from England.

    In the bible, “Patrick James”, my brother, was listed, and I had a dream that I had been looking through the bible to those pages with family names.

    My dream thought had been “he’s a tree”. Have not looked up what tree he is (Matty M listed them somewhere above here in this thread), but Viggo Mortensen was recently featured on another forum, also a Libran, Oct. 20th, just like my brother, but brother born 1955.

    Viggo… From Astrotheme:

    Born: October 20, 1958, 12:00 PM (unknown)
    in: New York (NY)
    Sun: 26°45′ Libra
    Moon: 9°35′ Aquarius

    Although born in America, Viggo is Scandinavian. He writes poetry. Sun & Venus in Libra, but his Scorpio placements; Mercury, Jupiter and Neptune…”he can plummet the depths of his Soul”.

    Mars in Gemini for the multi-faceted languages… Danish, Norweigan, Spanish & English.

    Anyone seen this youngster who can take on many different dialetcs? Would be interesting to know what his astrology is. Granted, he cusses alot in the video, but like he says, it’s off the top of his head and not meant to be offensive.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dABo_DCIdpM

    Brother has Venus and Saturn in Scorpio square Uranus. Instead of poetry comes out a bit harsh at times. Add Saggo Moon-NN and he is very passionate about his beliefs.

    Take a deep breath before I call….God love him.

  25. Stumbled in to visit the Amazing Viggo from a much later post, and how interesting…had a conversation only yesterday with a friend about ‘what tree are you?’ without hesitation, she is’maple’, I, ‘willow’. Will have to re-read all Matthews tree info above, which is fascinating, btw, thanks. Certain I am willow, simply because I am drawn to them because of my highly aspected Neptune. I also have frequent headaches with Saturn Rx in Aries, so the asprin connection, I feel. In closing, what provoked our tree convo was the movie Ondine with Colin Farrell.
    He is ahhh long lanky beautifully scruffy with thick irish brogue and the movie is about selkies, so yah!? what’s not to love ? :)

    • Have thee MOST gorgeous willow tree right outside my front door Rox! It was pruned back about two months ago (sadly) but it will grow back. We have so much green here/flowers and I know the nature devas are happy cuz they get so much attention and grooming!!

      • I put out faerie plates for good harvest, and the toads round here love me !

        • Saw a froggie on the walkway last night…Such a precious little critter….

          Was in the jacuzzi last night and heard a big ‘bang”. Who shot the gun? Had to get to my car and so started the whole…

          “Yea though I walk through the valley of death, I will fear no evil: for Thou art with me; Thy rod and Thy staff they comfort me. …

          No shit…lol

          Saw a sliding glass door open where I heard voices….I called out “excuse me sir, excuse me”..Wanted to know if he had heard what I’d heard…

          Man in a bathrobe came out and he confirmed he had these little explosives to scare off the coyotes that would eat his little dogs if given the chance.

          What a relief that it was not some crazed person. Am akin to coyotes but am thinking that with the grandaughter here next weekend we will do the pool activites while still light out as I don’t fancy her being a snack! :)

            • Yes, will take a flashlight and my back scratcher :shock: if with the gdaughter out after dark. I’m not into living in fear but that did get my attention. Just the other day saw a lady taking a walk with a baseball bat. Good cripes I’d thought…and then there I was!!

              More armed robberies out here. Peeps are hungry, as are the animals. My heart breaks… :sad:

              • My Chinese is Snake rising…..hisssssss :)

                But really, was told many, many years ago that I need never fear nature or it’s critters. I’m going to have faith in that but for my gdaughter’s sake, will carry the flashlight and back scratcher…

                If anything happened, my daughter would kill me!!

                That’s the scariest shite of all…. :lol:

    • As am off for another installment of grapefruit pickin’ today thought I might as well see where I could correlate them to astro.

      Read under Stellar Diet that grapefruits are good for Aries…yay! And Gemini….yay!

      • grapefruit good for losing weight, I know that. Will be having a fruit smoothie later, myself. I will google stellar diet. Wot it is ?
        I had two willows in my yard when we moved in (live by a lake) and storms took them both. I am wanting to plant another tree and must do my research. I am not big on leaf raking since I already have a huge oak in front yard, willows are so beautiful and the twigs are useful, my Virgo digs that ! Will read all the druid stuff and be all up to snuff !

      • I’ve always wondered about the astro diet and health related stuff. I have a book that tells what nutrients each sign needs to function at their best, which foods they should incorporate into their diet and what health concerns they should pay close attention to, besides the obvious things related to the part of the body that that sign rules.

        I hadn’t seen this post before, but I have that Celtic Astrology Handbook by Helena Patterson. I think the info in that book is what is posted on the Novareinna site. According to Mystic’s link above I’m a Reed, but according to Helena’s book I’m a Gort (Gaelic for Ivy), and symbolized by the butterfly, which represents death and transformation, so that seems fitting for a Scorpio. ;)

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