Astro-Query: Regrets? Valid Or Pointless?

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“Regret is an appalling waste of energy; you can’t build on it; it is good only for wallowing in.”

Katherine Mansfield, the writer.

SHE was Libra with her Libran Sun conjunct Uranus (free-thinker, ahead of her time) and a lovely great big gallumping Mars in Saggo Rising + Venus-Mercury in Scorpio… Which if it were being expressed freely, would want to regenerate and could stand to stagnate. That’s just f.y.i.

But is there an astro-signature for regret or not giving a damn?  I always think the Mutables (Gemini, Virgo, Sagg & Pisces) are the LEAST inclined to it – purely because they like to keep things chugging along + they’re kind of amoral, with the poss exception of our Virgo.

And yes I know it was the Saggo Edith Piaf who sang Non, je ne regrette rien (No, i regret nothing) but it always seems like it’s such a lie. Or is that the point?

I’m thinking that a heavy Saturn placement would incline one toward regret?  Hands up who agrees with Katherine Mansfield?

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  1. Aello’s avatar

    Yes, my hand is up. And I agree with you too Mystic regarding the Mutables. I’m Gem with Pisces rising and although I briefly indulge my dish-rag limp Saturn in Cancer after being a bit naughty or impulsive, I regret nothing. Nothing. In the long run anyway. Good or bad, experience is experience and that’s how one learns all the best lessons.

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    1. matthew-minerva’s avatar

      ive go picses rising too! Saggo sun, moon & mercury but a Picses AC with Saturn in Picses.. so I DO ENJOY A GOOD TIME but in hindsight maybe in like 50-60 years i MIGHT regret stuff that i may or may not do!
      lol
      matt

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  2. Pisces Goat’s avatar

    I agree with Aello. Pisces sun, Taurus rising, Aries moon. I have certainly done things which I think are foolish, impulsive, or perhaps unintentionally hurtful to other people (or myself) but the regret would only be in not learning from those experiences, not the actual experiences themselves. Oh so deep for a Monday morning…

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  3. cheshire cap’s avatar

    I try to banish the past but try to learn from past actions and have few regrets. Past mistakes give me something to laugh at. If I can’t immediately remedy a situation, I let it go. I don’t dwell on other’s mistakes or misdeeds either, but I may file it away under ’signals to watch out for’ so’s not to let it arise again. My saturn is conj mars in cancer square jupiter in libra. Watered down planets square jupiter/expansion? executes Gallic shrug.

    Cap/sagg/sagg

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  4. Über Virgo’s avatar

    Remorse, useful. Regret, pointless.

    Katherine Mansfield has it right. We all screw up. If we didn’t we wouldn’t be human. Regret to me means not learning from a mistake or unfortunate choice. To feel remorseful about making a poor choice is useful for making future choices, but to feel regret, as in wish you’d never done something is a bit of a dead end. It implies a lack of forgiveness and it’s like wishing you were perfect, rather than aspiring to perfection.

    How’s that for a Virgo response? We’re the queens of splitting hairs.

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    1. Über Virgo’s avatar

      Whoops, I’m pretty heavily mutable. Five Virgo planets and Sagg rising.

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      1. matthew-minerva’s avatar

        Sagg rising is very obvious Uber! thats why i think we all admire u soo much lol

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        1. Über Virgo’s avatar

          Awww, Matt, ta! :)

          I’m thankful I have Sagg rising. Any more Virgo and I’d nitpick myself into oblivion. I love Saggos! Scuse me while I go off and see the world…

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          1. matthew-minerva’s avatar

            thats ok!
            Im pretty Multiple too!
            Ive got sun, moon , mercury (as well as jupiter basically – which is on the cusp of both scorp and sagg) in Saggo
            ive got Chirion in Virgo & Saturn in picses
            so i too am pretty multiple!

  5. fishgirl’s avatar

    The only thing I ever regret is times when I’ve not followed / second-guessed my intuition. But it’s actually counter to everything we are taught in this logic + economics based society so it’s actually quite difficult to remain intuition-based. So I cut myself some slack…
    (Gem rising, pisces sun, virgo moon. Mutable-arama…)

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  6. postmodscorp’s avatar

    I regret things – esp if they cause pain to others unintentionally – less common now that I am able to express myself more clearly. I also regret things done under the influence of alcohol – which is why I have so drastically changed my attitude and actions around that drug. Regret however is usually couple with embarrassment. I HATE feeling embarrassed by my actions…. so am much more circumspect.

    The other thing I regret is when I’ve not acted or done something because of a (usually) self imposed block – ie ‘not enough money’ or ‘thats too hard’. So now I embrace challenge, and figure I won’t care what my financial situation is when I’m dead – so I go for it!
    Scorp/Aries asc/Cancer moon Saturn in Virgo in the 6th….

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  7. Buckle’s avatar

    Aries, Pisces Asc, Gem moon:

    I have regrets but I don’t want ‘em!
    Maybe I need the relationship exorcist Mystic mentioned some weeks back, ‘cept I need a regrets exorcist.

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  8. current’s avatar

    regret can be a good teacher….

    an inner guide that might help us to “not do that again”?

    (multiple pisces conjunct)

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  9. Savannah’s avatar

    Past regrets and their keenly felt emotional remembrances can be a good tool for some thoughtful decision making of what’s on the horizon. A little wallow never hurt anyone every now & then makes one human.

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  10. year of the fox’s avatar

    no regrets here.

    Sun Libra: Moon Scorp: Sag Asc

    I had no idea Katherine Mansfield was a Libra with Uranus conjunct her sun. Mercury in Scorp too. Another weird thing we have in common. I ought to get a peek at her chart.

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  11. hazelblackberry’s avatar

    Sagg Sun, Aries Moon, Pisces Rising.

    Never do “what ifs” and rarely indulge regret. My big thing is that if you regret soemthing then use it to change your life now and if you’re not going to change whatever it is that is so regrettable, then just forge ahead. Like guilt, it is totally wasted energy otherwise.

    I guess remorse is when you regret something and are driven to change.

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  12. Aello’s avatar

    fishgirl and postmodscorp raise an interesting point: regretting *not* doing something, letting an opportunity slide, ignoring an inner truth. That’s scary. But as so few of us are enlightened gurus, it’s going to happen. I know I’m not always nice or evolved or tidy or brave or genuine (oh my, i’m not perfect) but as long as I grok the experience (thanks for expanding my vocab, Mystic) then I know deep within that, all moral judgement aside, I did the ‘right’ thing and can mark another twist along my path.

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  13. Trixie’s avatar

    Does it perhaps depend on how good you feel about your current situation? I like where I am, so see everything’s that happened in the past as part of how I got here and therefore quite positive. More generally I tend to see myself as a lucky person for whom things turn out well, not sure where that comes from.

    Sun Scorp; Libra Asc; Gemini moon.

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  14. matthew-minerva’s avatar

    Multiples i find are very optomistic.. maybe its just becoz i am one myself and nearly all of my friends are similar, but i do think that there is some truth in this.
    I mean shouldnt we “feel the fear and do it anyway”???
    I personally regret barely anything – i think that everything happens for a reason so?
    Some Mistakes are TOO MUCH FUN to only make once.
    Take chances. Tell the truth. Date someone totally wrong for you. Say no. Spend all your cash! Fall in love. Get to know someone random. Be random. Say I love you. Sing out loud. Laugh at a stupid joke. Cry. Get revenge. Apologize. Tell someone how much they mean to you. Tell the asshole what you feel. Let someone know what theyre missing. Laugh til your stomach hurts. LIVE LIFE!
    (re-reading this it all sounds very multiple – Gemini, Saggo, Virgo & Picses) what do u think??

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    1. Aello’s avatar

      I recently heard a meaty metaphor that seems apt for your delightful philosophy: ‘cracking open the shin bone of life and sucking out the marrow’.

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      1. matthew-minerva’s avatar

        Lol sounds like a dinner with my great aunty LOL!

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      2. Savannah’s avatar

        LOL!

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  15. saggigal’s avatar

    Matt, your list of things to do sounds like a back catalogue of the whole of my 20s :)

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    1. matthew-minerva’s avatar

      :P well u had fun didnt you?! well ive been living by this philosophy for the past 2 years now – and well its my personal challenge (EVERYONE IS WELCOME TO TRY!) over the course of one month or so, you must cross off each of the things on this list. at the end of the month or start of the new begin the list again!
      ITS SOOO MUCH FUN
      Matt
      x
      SAGGO FOR LIFE! – “well i cant really change it now can I!”

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  16. matthew-minerva’s avatar

    OK TOTAL LETS DO IT AGAIN SONG THAT IN MY TEENAGE MIND EMPHASISES WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
    I LOVED THIS SONG FOR THE LAST 6-7 WEEKS AND NOW ITS NUMBER 1 ON THE CHARTS (i hate this because i have a knack for picking songs that no one likes and then suddenly hit Number 1)
    “I GOTTA FEELING” by the Black Eyed Peas
    anyway
    thought i’d pass that through not that its very useful or relevant info but wat the hell
    Matt

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  17. starstrokes’s avatar

    Regrets, I have but ONE!
    I was 22 years old, newly arrived in London & trawling Camden Markets on a groovy Sunday afternoon. I tried on the perfect worlds only pair of vintage dusty-pink suede knee boots-I was wearing denim cut-offs & leggings at the time, I do believe I drew a crowd as it was an exalted Leo moment. Next thing, my Cappy buddy totally does a number on my revelry & tells me this is not a sensible purchase for the travel-savvy…& I sadly walked away without my dusty-pink loves. I do believe we were meant to be & I do believe my destiny was irrevocably altered by listening to that snappy Cappy! (O, I do have Cap rising, maybe thats the regret…aaay!)

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    1. Salacious Sagg’s avatar

      Starstroked, I so identify with you, for me of the Sagg Sun, Scorp Rising, Gemini Moon, the only regret’s I have EVER had was whenever I have listened to Capricorns who have stopped me from doing”wild things-according to them!” They have stopped me from buying some gorgeous unique items. One blouse in Paris I still lament after. The funny thing is in the past i used to only fall for Cap guys and they succeeded in pulling the breaks on me. My Cap sis and my Cap dad are both gorgeous but oh so sensible and find my antics challenging. At one time Dad called me every hour to make sure I caught the flight home from the Arctic. He was worried I would say i missed the flight and stay longer! : >

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    2. little fish’s avatar

      never, ever say no to dusty pink!!!

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    3. unpredictable pisces’s avatar

      OH MY GOD starstrokes i actually UNDERSTAND what you mean re perfect shoe moment that you walked away from.

      I was able to redeem myself in italy where i decided *fuq it* i’m buying them, i’ll never see these in Oz if i dont buy them. and yes i spent my last euros on them and mashed them into the backpack and off i went. happy as a clam.

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  18. starstrokes’s avatar

    That was meant to be cathartic…

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    1. The Leo Socialite’s avatar

      Thank heavens for YOU. I was wondering whether my regret was too shallow and it IS but now i feel emboldend to venture forth.
      I absolutely understand. Are you still friends with the Cap?
      My only regret is sort of ephemeral – i mean, i have deeper things i feel SAD about – but i feel regret that when i was charging about in mini skirts, young and happy in love with different boys every week that i didn’t apprecite it more. i was eaten up by self doubt even though i was GORGEOUS and often trying to fake being more intellectual or mature then i was. WHY?!
      So i regret not wearing my snakeskin mini more and that i was not more assertive with men. Young girls – do not let men guilt you into going out with them. Read women who run with the wolves and wear your snakeskin mini. But not too near to me if i am out on a date please.

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      1. starstrokes’s avatar

        O god! I regret never having had a snakeskin mini, now that you mention it…!

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      2. cheshire cap’s avatar

        I still have a snakeskin mini, well above the knees, not micro, and every time I wear it someone compliments me. It’s amazing what tiny peeps can get away with fashion-wise. But I’m careful what I wear with it.

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        1. Salacious Sagg’s avatar

          Woa, you go girl : > I can just imagine you strutting your stuff! I would have loved a snakesskin mini and even though I am 165cm I was too self conscious to wear minis as my Mum brainwashed me re being ladylike etc! Sigh! Yes! I regreet listening for the sake of peace and sanity!

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    2. Über Virgo’s avatar

      Ah yes, fashion regrets. I can relate to those.

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  19. nebulous virgo’s avatar

    To regret is part of letting go/processing things/people/whatever. sometimes, at least.
    Apart from that process, it is a waste of energy.

    Virgo Sun/ Venus + Libra Saturn Opp. AC, conjunct Mercury + Pluto.

    PS I think strong Saturn (I count my placement as strong) makes you think more before acting “amorally”, thus less to regret later on…

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  20. unpredictable pisces’s avatar

    i also agree with postmod scorp and others , i have some big regrets.

    I regret that as a 12 year old i didn’t realise that a woman was getting beaten, maybe worse in the flat above my dad’s one night. i regret that he was too weak to interfere, saying it ‘wasn’t his business’ (obviously not something i was responsible for, i understand). I wasn’t old enough to realise what was going on but i knew it was not good. I wish i knew how to find her so i could tell her how i felt, how I still feel, how i wish I could have dome something. That was about 20 years ago so yeah i have a few long lasting regrets. I regret being a lazy teenager when my single mum was busting her guts to keep a roof over our head. I regret not telling men how I really felt. I regret not saving more money when I just spent it on things i didn’t need, like too many clothes (notwithstanding shoe story above) when there’s kids out there who don’t even know what a square meal tastes like or when I could have been living in my own place right now (advice to teenagers: if you are a bit of a shopaholic, don’t get a credit card EVER!).

    the money thing is ok, i’m not out on the street. I can talk to my mum and tell her how i feel. the men, well, they may not have worked out anyway and i’ve learnt my lesson: be honest early (and not just with men). the lady in the flat upstairs, well I hope she’s found safety and love and I still wish I could talk to her.

    some of that’s pretty heavy, i’m sorry. wow but it is like confession.. xx

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    1. unpredictable pisces’s avatar

      i’ve got moon in cap which is probably way prone to melancholy. saturn in 3rd house (forms a fire trine with venus aries, and neptune sagg). i don’t know if that’s a heavy placement. It’s opposite mars in my 8th. hmm

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    2. Salacious Sagg’s avatar

      Hey Unpredicatble Pisces, I feel your pain and I so hope you can let it go. Can you write it all done, say you are truly sorry and then burn it and let the winds just carry it up to the trees. It is what it is, it happened and I am sure you have made amends a hundred times over. Let it go and dont let it torment you any more dear heart. xx

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  21. Nico’s avatar

    Me = Pisces sun, taurus ascendant, sagg moon.

    My theory is that in each moment we have the complete choice to influence or to create a situation. If we are responsible for the moments we find our selves in, then how ever could we regret doing anything???

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  22. davidl’s avatar

    not many regrets, though i sometimes wonder what may have been if some decisions were made differently. I was the classic aries in my youth (possibly still am in my middle years, cough, cough) so never really thought about not doing stuff, just did everything to the max, took every opportunity, got off the beaten track, tried everything, pushed myself forward for any hairy adventure that was on offer. From a young age there was a voice in my head saying ” if you don’t try it now you’ll regret it later ” and I always listened to that voice. Now when Im telling my lifes stories to my kids, they say, oh! come on dad, you couldn’t have done this or that, but i did ! please god they don’t !

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  23. shell’s avatar

    a leo friend asked obscurely me a while ago if it was okay for an adult to have regrets – or something similar – I obscurely responded that I think that having regrets is part of becoming an adult.
    I agree with the useful tool for becoming a better person perspective. But also that you need to let them go
    gem, virgo asc, pisces moon – mutable all round

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  24. Luinae

    Hmmmmmm, I have a Kataka sun, as well as my Mercury and Venus, and I am very prone to regrets. “I should of done this! What if it was different?” Argh, emotional Kataka on the loose!
    Cap rising/Taurus Moon

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  25. Jenny’s avatar

    Heeey, go easy on the Caps; they’re only looking out for your best interests! Perhaps you only want it because you don’t have it? :P Aaah… how romantic… ;)
    Yes yes I’m a Cap rising. Saturn 1st house. Heavy cardinal, with only Mars in a mutable sign. Full of regret. Large tenancy to live in the past. Or idealize it anyway. I have Neptune conjunct my ascendant which I think adds to it.

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  26. Lesly’s avatar

    I definitely agree with mutables not having regrets. I certainly don’t. All of my mistakes, my stumbles, have taught me something. Why regret a learning experience?!

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  27. ariel’s avatar

    Yep, regret is pointless. Things happen for a reason and we need to learn from mistakes & move on. But sometimes doubts are difficult to get rid of. Gemini sun, aries moon, venus in taurus (love regrets are the ones that stick), leo rising.

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  28. hell's belle’s avatar

    My Saturn is peregrine in the fifth house and I have loads of regrets. I can regret things I’ve done when I was 8 although now I’m better at LETTING IT GO.

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  29. Mers’s avatar

    Pisces rising, Kataka sun with saggo moon here says regret seems to be embedded in Kataka d.n.a. but secretly suspect my bassackwardsness has more to do with Saturn in Gem, 4th house, aye? ( No more taking care of anyone, no regrets, no discussion, thank you, next? North node in Cap 11th house ;) Thankfully for Saggo moon, can clearly see that regrets are vestigial as my appendix….now what does an appendix do? (anyone..please? ;) And curious if this Gem placement give hints to this knack for distracting self away from sad said carousel of low-quality drama (regret)? Idears? Thanks!!

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  30. Sweetpea’s avatar

    The ability to reflect and to be cognizent of regret allows one to learn compassion.

    Think Saturn is indeed strongly figured in this task/lesson.

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  31. whatever’s avatar

    I think there’s a difference between regret and remorse and believe remorse has far more potential for personal growth. Am with the no regrets crew on this one don’t see the point to me it’s like a brick you drag round behind you – dead weight. Remorse – yes I feel it deeply – scorpio moon makes sure of that. I have saturn in the tenth which is apparently a hard placement but I think Gemini ascendant may lift that so it’s not so ponderous and rigid.

    And also crazy synchronicity – I was immediately “online” with KM when we were made to read her at school – loved her turn of phrase and poignant plot twists etc. I always thought it was just a cultural thing that we were from the same place that the similarities in way of thinking existed – there was a def sense of kindred spirit. Now I see why astrologers always tell me to write books. I have same sun sign uranus conjunct and venus mercury placements. Also weird I once found 2 little landscape oil paintings at an auction and bought them for $5, researched the painter and he turned out to be a famous scientist who was contemporary of KM and one of her close friends. Go that 2nd house cancer cusp :o ) I’ve never regretted those impulse auction purchases.

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