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		<title>By: Über Virgo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Über Virgo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that should have been &#039;any further west&#039;. Frazzled busy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that should have been &#8216;any further west&#8217;. Frazzled busy.</p>
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		<title>By: Über Virgo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Über Virgo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, any further and I feel like I&#039;m in &#039;Deliverance&#039;, except without Burt Reynolds.</description>
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		<title>By: s</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 06:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>first time caller, long time listener!

sag sun, virgo moon, leo asc.

i like the country, i daydream often of long walks through fields and finding a tree to lay and take a nap under. i love the forest more though.. the vivid green makes me feel relaxed and comfortable. this summer so far ive spent lots of time smoking drugs in the forest, and walking through a field near my house. its really made me feel much more comfortable and happy. 
i live in the toronto suburbs but dont like the city much, but i love vancouver.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>first time caller, long time listener!</p>
<p>sag sun, virgo moon, leo asc.</p>
<p>i like the country, i daydream often of long walks through fields and finding a tree to lay and take a nap under. i love the forest more though.. the vivid green makes me feel relaxed and comfortable. this summer so far ive spent lots of time smoking drugs in the forest, and walking through a field near my house. its really made me feel much more comfortable and happy.<br />
i live in the toronto suburbs but dont like the city much, but i love vancouver.</p>
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		<title>By: Triple Cancer Chick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Triple Cancer Chick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 05:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was born in Paddington Sydney and moved to Victorian Country when I was five. Moved to inner city Melb when I was 17 which was over 20 years ago now. I love country and city. 

I grew up on 200 acres in a beautiful area in the foot hills of the Victorian Alps. It wasn&#039;t used as a farm anymore but was an old dairy farm 10 kilometres from the nearest town, our nearest neighbours about 2 kilometres away. The house was set back from the road and up a a hill, over half a k from the main road so completely private. 

We had a dam and a few creeks running through the property. the front area was cleared with paddocks but the back was untouched bushland and ravines with spring fed creeks running through.

We had platypus in the creek and heaps of kangaroos and wallabies., possums, echidnas and wombats,  lot&#039;s of snakes too. The birdlife was incredible.

I used to spend hours wandering around the bush as a kid. I enjoy going back home now too although mum and dad are now in town, &quot;town&quot; is tiny and very peaceful...

To escape parents we used to go camping a bit. Most of my other friends were out of town too, a lot on farms. We&#039;d also swim in local water holes and creeks and dams as often as going to the local pool.

I now live in inner suburbs in Melbourne and love that just as much, I enjoy eating out and cafe culture. I love having local melbourne designer cloth shops and fantastic delis walking distance from me. I revel in having choice in entertainment. I appreciate Melbourne visually as a city too. I love the victorian archotecture and the green belts and our parks and the diversity of people. The music, the art, the culture,  I would miss all this if I moved.

So thinking about it, I&#039;ve really only experienced one country area and one city fully. Both in my opinion are the best of what country and city have to offer. Maybe I would have a different view if I&#039;d grown up in less beautiful part of the world or if i&#039;d moved to a city not as great as Melbourne. 

I can see myself moving back to the country when I retire maybe or if I change careers. For my particular role in IT it&#039;s pretty much Sydney or Melbourne and I cannot imagine ever living in Sydney. Sydney is beautiful but it does not appeal to me.

I don&#039;t know how I&#039;d go in true suburbia, i&#039;ve never done that I hope I never have to. 

Sun, moon, merc. Cancer, Virgo asc, venus gem, mars aq.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was born in Paddington Sydney and moved to Victorian Country when I was five. Moved to inner city Melb when I was 17 which was over 20 years ago now. I love country and city. </p>
<p>I grew up on 200 acres in a beautiful area in the foot hills of the Victorian Alps. It wasn&#8217;t used as a farm anymore but was an old dairy farm 10 kilometres from the nearest town, our nearest neighbours about 2 kilometres away. The house was set back from the road and up a a hill, over half a k from the main road so completely private. </p>
<p>We had a dam and a few creeks running through the property. the front area was cleared with paddocks but the back was untouched bushland and ravines with spring fed creeks running through.</p>
<p>We had platypus in the creek and heaps of kangaroos and wallabies., possums, echidnas and wombats,  lot&#8217;s of snakes too. The birdlife was incredible.</p>
<p>I used to spend hours wandering around the bush as a kid. I enjoy going back home now too although mum and dad are now in town, &#8220;town&#8221; is tiny and very peaceful&#8230;</p>
<p>To escape parents we used to go camping a bit. Most of my other friends were out of town too, a lot on farms. We&#8217;d also swim in local water holes and creeks and dams as often as going to the local pool.</p>
<p>I now live in inner suburbs in Melbourne and love that just as much, I enjoy eating out and cafe culture. I love having local melbourne designer cloth shops and fantastic delis walking distance from me. I revel in having choice in entertainment. I appreciate Melbourne visually as a city too. I love the victorian archotecture and the green belts and our parks and the diversity of people. The music, the art, the culture,  I would miss all this if I moved.</p>
<p>So thinking about it, I&#8217;ve really only experienced one country area and one city fully. Both in my opinion are the best of what country and city have to offer. Maybe I would have a different view if I&#8217;d grown up in less beautiful part of the world or if i&#8217;d moved to a city not as great as Melbourne. </p>
<p>I can see myself moving back to the country when I retire maybe or if I change careers. For my particular role in IT it&#8217;s pretty much Sydney or Melbourne and I cannot imagine ever living in Sydney. Sydney is beautiful but it does not appeal to me.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how I&#8217;d go in true suburbia, i&#8217;ve never done that I hope I never have to. </p>
<p>Sun, moon, merc. Cancer, Virgo asc, venus gem, mars aq.</p>
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		<title>By: unpredictable pisces</title>
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		<dc:creator>unpredictable pisces</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 03:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>moon in cap, 8th i guess i like to keep it real. gem rising probably vamps up my need for city stimulation. i have learnt that in the country/rtgional areas you have to get your OWN stimulation - work for it. try it  - it&#039;s rewarding! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>moon in cap, 8th i guess i like to keep it real. gem rising probably vamps up my need for city stimulation. i have learnt that in the country/rtgional areas you have to get your OWN stimulation &#8211; work for it. try it  &#8211; it&#8217;s rewarding! <img src='http://mysticmedusa.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: unpredictable pisces</title>
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		<dc:creator>unpredictable pisces</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 03:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi all, disclaimer, not read any of the above posts.

love the country, shame about most of the people (townies at least). so, Townies: and they always complain about the city &quot;there&#039;s too many people!&quot; duh it&#039;s the city. and SO F*CKING RACIST.  
I prefer the farm-y salt of the earth types. I want to drive for 3 hours on a dirt track, THEN I&#039;m in the country. the farm types understand nature rules their life, they are comfortable with dirt, biology (calving, gore, death, birth), rutted out muddy roads, and they are handy with just about anything. 

on the other hand, city folk in the country are hilarious, tottering around over-dressed and complaining in loud voices about how quaint things are, or old fashioned, or &#039;you just can&#039;t get a good latte around here!&quot; (you can, it&#039;s just local knowledge and we&#039;re not going to share that space with a tosser).

lastly i need a big urban fix regularly so am not bagging city life. love city life. 
xox</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi all, disclaimer, not read any of the above posts.</p>
<p>love the country, shame about most of the people (townies at least). so, Townies: and they always complain about the city &#8220;there&#8217;s too many people!&#8221; duh it&#8217;s the city. and SO F*CKING RACIST.<br />
I prefer the farm-y salt of the earth types. I want to drive for 3 hours on a dirt track, THEN I&#8217;m in the country. the farm types understand nature rules their life, they are comfortable with dirt, biology (calving, gore, death, birth), rutted out muddy roads, and they are handy with just about anything. </p>
<p>on the other hand, city folk in the country are hilarious, tottering around over-dressed and complaining in loud voices about how quaint things are, or old fashioned, or &#8216;you just can&#8217;t get a good latte around here!&#8221; (you can, it&#8217;s just local knowledge and we&#8217;re not going to share that space with a tosser).</p>
<p>lastly i need a big urban fix regularly so am not bagging city life. love city life.<br />
xox</p>
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		<title>By: Bella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 01:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Detest the &#039;burbs. Too samey.
Hate the city, except for rare cultural visits. Too many people, too noisy, too fast. Have to visit national capital about every 3 months for work and always relieved to get back on the train and calm down as I leave it further behind me, able to think and breathe again.

Spent early years in a cottage where the only access was a footpath, no road. Got my first pair of shoes when I started school. Ran wild and free in safe, open countryside. Grew up with vast open skies so find hills and mountains almost as threatening as cities.

Happy where I am now. A couple of neighbours, who don&#039;t speak to me - no idea why and doesn&#039;t bother me at all. Look out over fields and ancient woodland. Walk to nearest village, and occasionally into little market town. No street lights, so see stars all the time. Wonderful clear night skies - can see venus from my bed at the moment. Didn&#039;t realise she moved so fast. Watch owls, seasons, light, skies, can tell the time by the amount of light, the wind by the movement of the leaves. Can hear this 300+ year old house creak and it feels reassuring. Lack of human noise means I can hear the owls hunting, foxes and deer barking - through double glazed windows. 

Nearest city is an hour&#039;s drive. Go there about once a year apart from work visits. Refuse to have meetings which require me to drive there in rush hour - too much stress! Rush hour here is 4 cars in an hour. Shop in the village (half an hours&#039; walk) and by mail order to avoid going to the supermarket more than about once a month, or walk into town to the market. 

I feel at one with my surroundings and totally part of my environment. I do stray out, but always want to come back home quite quickly. Once took a 6 month temp contract 3 hours away. Commuted 6 hours a day, plus regular delays, so I could be at home at night for my 4 hours sleep, before turning round and going back to work. No one in the city where I worked could understand why I didn&#039;t stay over. 

The only real downside is that small community life is like living in a goldfish bowl. Everyone knows your business and you know theirs. But it is also what makes you part of the community and creates a strong sense of place. But there is a kind of unwritten law that certain things apply to everyone, such as seeing your neighbours&#039; underwear on the washing line is something you NEVER EVER discuss with anyone, or helping someone in need, no matter what you think of them - you are their only hope and you may need them one day. And no mobile signal is a blessing most of the time - calls are rarely truly urgent.

I&#039;m really glad others love city life. It means I can keep my sanctuary for myself!  Apart from the likes of Ms Hurley, who gives country dwellers a bad name. Part of my region is totally blighted by weekending urbanites who destroy the local economy with very serious knock on effects. Lovely rural delis are fine for those who can afford them, but locals are priced out of everything and ... oh don&#039;t get me started. It&#039;s a serious problem.

Taurus sun/cancer moon/north node virgo in 12th - a country dwelling cliche?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Detest the &#8216;burbs. Too samey.<br />
Hate the city, except for rare cultural visits. Too many people, too noisy, too fast. Have to visit national capital about every 3 months for work and always relieved to get back on the train and calm down as I leave it further behind me, able to think and breathe again.</p>
<p>Spent early years in a cottage where the only access was a footpath, no road. Got my first pair of shoes when I started school. Ran wild and free in safe, open countryside. Grew up with vast open skies so find hills and mountains almost as threatening as cities.</p>
<p>Happy where I am now. A couple of neighbours, who don&#8217;t speak to me &#8211; no idea why and doesn&#8217;t bother me at all. Look out over fields and ancient woodland. Walk to nearest village, and occasionally into little market town. No street lights, so see stars all the time. Wonderful clear night skies &#8211; can see venus from my bed at the moment. Didn&#8217;t realise she moved so fast. Watch owls, seasons, light, skies, can tell the time by the amount of light, the wind by the movement of the leaves. Can hear this 300+ year old house creak and it feels reassuring. Lack of human noise means I can hear the owls hunting, foxes and deer barking &#8211; through double glazed windows. </p>
<p>Nearest city is an hour&#8217;s drive. Go there about once a year apart from work visits. Refuse to have meetings which require me to drive there in rush hour &#8211; too much stress! Rush hour here is 4 cars in an hour. Shop in the village (half an hours&#8217; walk) and by mail order to avoid going to the supermarket more than about once a month, or walk into town to the market. </p>
<p>I feel at one with my surroundings and totally part of my environment. I do stray out, but always want to come back home quite quickly. Once took a 6 month temp contract 3 hours away. Commuted 6 hours a day, plus regular delays, so I could be at home at night for my 4 hours sleep, before turning round and going back to work. No one in the city where I worked could understand why I didn&#8217;t stay over. </p>
<p>The only real downside is that small community life is like living in a goldfish bowl. Everyone knows your business and you know theirs. But it is also what makes you part of the community and creates a strong sense of place. But there is a kind of unwritten law that certain things apply to everyone, such as seeing your neighbours&#8217; underwear on the washing line is something you NEVER EVER discuss with anyone, or helping someone in need, no matter what you think of them &#8211; you are their only hope and you may need them one day. And no mobile signal is a blessing most of the time &#8211; calls are rarely truly urgent.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m really glad others love city life. It means I can keep my sanctuary for myself!  Apart from the likes of Ms Hurley, who gives country dwellers a bad name. Part of my region is totally blighted by weekending urbanites who destroy the local economy with very serious knock on effects. Lovely rural delis are fine for those who can afford them, but locals are priced out of everything and &#8230; oh don&#8217;t get me started. It&#8217;s a serious problem.</p>
<p>Taurus sun/cancer moon/north node virgo in 12th &#8211; a country dwelling cliche?</p>
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		<title>By: Ms Motown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ms Motown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 01:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with you Shell.  Grew up in western Victoria.  The sun rose over the glorious Grampians every morning.   Have wonderful childhood memories of exploring creeks and solo walks filled with imaginings.  (Lots of early adoelscence pretend Cathy and Heathcliff encounters) ;-)

But I also love the inner city for all the reasons that Mystic lists.  Art house cinema.  Good coffee.  Bookshops.  Writers and film festivals.  Jazz clubs,  and groovy community radio

Would slit my throat before I move to the souless  &#039;burbs

But I totally lurve a weekend in the country.  Open fires, comfort food. wondrous walks, breath-taking scenery, and yes(!) wineries and farmers markets.

I&#039;d love to own a weekend retreat somewhere in central Victoria.  Watch this space....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you Shell.  Grew up in western Victoria.  The sun rose over the glorious Grampians every morning.   Have wonderful childhood memories of exploring creeks and solo walks filled with imaginings.  (Lots of early adoelscence pretend Cathy and Heathcliff encounters) <img src='http://mysticmedusa.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But I also love the inner city for all the reasons that Mystic lists.  Art house cinema.  Good coffee.  Bookshops.  Writers and film festivals.  Jazz clubs,  and groovy community radio</p>
<p>Would slit my throat before I move to the souless  &#8216;burbs</p>
<p>But I totally lurve a weekend in the country.  Open fires, comfort food. wondrous walks, breath-taking scenery, and yes(!) wineries and farmers markets.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to own a weekend retreat somewhere in central Victoria.  Watch this space&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<description>The country can be stifling despite being surrounded by open space. Then there are the people - completely bats or completely unpretentious which is kind of refreshing. I live in the country and I like the serenity and the views. Watching the seasons change, even the day change. The afternoon sun slanting across the paddocks. I also like the city but I enjoy the feeling when I am leaving it behind as I drive out to my home. If only I was rich enough to have a city pad and my country house...
Taurus Girl.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The country can be stifling despite being surrounded by open space. Then there are the people &#8211; completely bats or completely unpretentious which is kind of refreshing. I live in the country and I like the serenity and the views. Watching the seasons change, even the day change. The afternoon sun slanting across the paddocks. I also like the city but I enjoy the feeling when I am leaving it behind as I drive out to my home. If only I was rich enough to have a city pad and my country house&#8230;<br />
Taurus Girl.</p>
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		<title>By: seabird</title>
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		<dc:creator>seabird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shell, I&#039;m with you.  grew up in deep country, no tv, no radio, early on we had no electricity either.  Never ever get bored anywhere I live, in the middle of nowhere, in the country, in the middle of a big city.  I will retire to the country though, I&#039;m working on it slowly.
Gemini sun, Aquarius moon, Taurus rising</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shell, I&#8217;m with you.  grew up in deep country, no tv, no radio, early on we had no electricity either.  Never ever get bored anywhere I live, in the middle of nowhere, in the country, in the middle of a big city.  I will retire to the country though, I&#8217;m working on it slowly.<br />
Gemini sun, Aquarius moon, Taurus rising</p>
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