The Country – Love or Loathe It?

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This is not me in the country. South Node in Sagittarius, you understand. Which means North Node in Gemini, which equates to loving the urban vibe.  But seriously, i have no real data on this other than vague astro-cliches re Taureans being naturally bucolic. But, really?  Earth Signs should probably naturally adore the country. Then again, Liz Hurley, whom is a raving Gemini, recently wrote a paeon to heavenly rural life; it’s sexier, it’s cleaner & fabulous service at darling little country delis.  I go bats in the country. I need dinky little cafes, cinemas, gyms, bookshops and a sense of urbane tolerance all around me. A poll – please & don’t hold back…Do you love or loathe the country?Maybe it is a Moon thing?

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Liz Hurley, farming, from Tatler.

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  1. Jenny’s avatar

    I like it if I have plenty to do, (Aries sun?) but usually there isn’t. I prefer holidays where I can go on tours or look at museums and stuff.

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  2. shell’s avatar

    I’m a gemini (with all sorts of planets in taurus, pisces moon, virgo asc).
    Grew up in the country, love it. Love the inner city too.
    Could never ever ever ever ever live in the suburbs.
    I have theories I waffle on about how farms are good for childhood and cities good for adulthood. I regularly fantasise about being able to buy myself a piece of dirt somewhere nice with trees and hills (and some water nearby would be good too) that I could retreat to on a regular basis until i’m ready to go base myself there and spend my time growing things and throwing pots and wandering about in paddocks in boots like those Liz is sporting, perhaps down to the local winery/pub the proprietors with whom I would have very quickly made friends with. And I’d buy a whiz bang coffee machine.

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    1. Ms Motown’s avatar

      I’m with you Shell. Grew up in western Victoria. The sun rose over the glorious Grampians every morning. Have wonderful childhood memories of exploring creeks and solo walks filled with imaginings. (Lots of early adoelscence pretend Cathy and Heathcliff encounters) ;-)

      But I also love the inner city for all the reasons that Mystic lists. Art house cinema. Good coffee. Bookshops. Writers and film festivals. Jazz clubs, and groovy community radio

      Would slit my throat before I move to the souless ‘burbs

      But I totally lurve a weekend in the country. Open fires, comfort food. wondrous walks, breath-taking scenery, and yes(!) wineries and farmers markets.

      I’d love to own a weekend retreat somewhere in central Victoria. Watch this space….

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  3. libran tiger’s avatar

    I love the country or more the beach actually. Taurus moon + rising. North node in sagg. Love to live where I can see the stars and moon rising – usually somewhere that still has good cafes and bookshops.

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    1. matthew-minerva’s avatar

      oh im right with you there libran tiger!
      i have a holiday house up in sorento and i positively love the beach!
      nothing better than watching the stars while sitting with a loved one on the beach on new years eve!
      matt

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  4. Ariel’s avatar

    Love it, sea nearby even better. gemini sun, aries moon & north node, venus in taurus. However: a nice place to visit, but I wouldn’t want to live there – I remember how cut off I felt from civilisation in the Lake District & I oculdn’t get mobile signal for days.

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  5. nancyx’s avatar

    I love the country – I love big trees, clean, fresh air, animals, magical glens and big rocks to climb on…but haven’t lived there and have no immdeiate plans to. Definitely agree that it’s best for childhood, but also think it’s damned healthy for adulthood too, in short bursts. I hate living in the ‘burbs, drives me crazy being so far from everything and everyone, but in the inner city I feel the absence of trees very strongly. Will work out where I’m supposed to live one day. Inner city in a secret garden on top of an apartment block, maybe?
    – piscean (north node taurus and moon in aquarius)

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  6. hazelblackberry’s avatar

    Grew up in some isolated country spots. Loved it, love it still but not sure that it would be the place for me to live. I feel at home in the city, I always have. I’ve never felt at home in country towns. In small communities, or in the bush, yes, but I don’t feel comfortable in a town. I love getting out into the country – love camping and wandering and kayaking on quiet rivers or whatever – but I do equally love coming home to my city pleasures and conveniences and all the people etc etc. Actually, no, I think I love the city more, when it all boils down.

    I don’t think it’s a hard and fast divide, though, and people from either side who try to make it one really sh1t me. Though I must say it’s more the country people who love to cr/\p on about how ‘real’ and ‘friendly’ the country is who do it to me the worst. For god’s sake. If you don’t want to be essentialised as a “hick” then don’t expect me to buy your positive essentialist rubbish either.

    Also, as an interesting aside. I grew up in some remote areas of north-west WA. I’ve observed an amazing divide between north-west country types and south-west country types. SWCT’ don’t even seem to recognise the north-west as ‘non-metro’ and it’s these people I’ve had say to me, “If you grew up in the country, you’d understand.” And the NMCT’s are the ones who, if you mention a well known city location (say, THE OPERA HOUSE), will come out with “I don’t know what that is. I don’t get down to the city much.” It makes me want to punch them.

    At the same time, far too many city people do not recognise the economic contribution made and the difficulties faced by farmers and graziers, the vaaaaast majority of whom are not standing around laughing evilly while they exploit the land but are trying honestly to earn a living and be true to something they feel passionate about.

    You can see why the capuccino strip can be referred to with derision.

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  7. hazelblackberry’s avatar

    Oh, wait:

    Sagg sun/Pisces Rising/Moon Aries.

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  8. scorptastic’s avatar

    i like it for a temporary time-bound visit. any more than a few days and i’ll lose it!

    scorp sun/moon cancer rising

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  9. davidl’s avatar

    Well I was born in the country North NSW, raised in the city, The Bra, when i moved out of home lived in the cross, lizzy bay, Potts Point for about 10 years..got job offer in QLd and after contract finished started by living in the hinterland, moved further back to the real bush then spent 7 years in rainforest pretty much by myself…moved back to the city, met wife have 3 kids. Living back in The Bra.
    I love the bush but it takes about 2 years to get that city edgey thing out of you so you can truly relax. Then life is just one perfect day after the next. Personally I think the bush is for adults not so much for kids. Families struggle in isolated places for lots of different reasons. Once the kids have grown up I’ll be pushing to move back north. When I lived in the cross I loved it, its a real community or was when i lived there. So for me the secret is one extreme or the next. Either inner city deep in the thick of it or isolated beauty. The middle ground, suburbia or semi rural are mind killers that would never work for me not sure they work for anyone.

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  10. Kiki’s avatar

    I’m a virgo (Cancerian moon, saggo rising) and like it only every so often. Like, maybe once every five years. Or maybe even once a decade. The thing is, I like change. Lots of it. And lots of stimulation – which is not abundant in the countryside. So basically, I like it as a change from urban environments.

    I looooooovvvve the bush though. Being in the bush (or rainforest, love the rf) is like a big detox for me. Most of my work until now has been in rehabilitating degraded urban bushland.

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  11. Pisces Goat’s avatar

    Love, love, love the country – Pisces sun, Taurus rising, Aries moon. I lived in Sydney for 17 years and sometimes I felt like I’d moved so far from my ‘centre’ that there were times when I literally thought I was losing my mind. Recently have discovered my farm again…love the smell, the cattle, the kangaroos…

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  12. Kiki’s avatar

    Oh, did someone mention rooftop gardens here? That’s my idea of bliss. Along with rooftop agriculture.

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  13. Pisces Goat’s avatar

    BTW, I’m not usually a Liz Hurley fan, but I love this photo!

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    1. davidl’s avatar

      same, can’t handle her generally but that photo ! oww baby..

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  14. Über Virgo’s avatar

    The urban urbane Jeff Goldblum character in ‘The Big Chill’ pisses in a paddock then refers to the country as one giant toilet. For some reason that stuck with me.

    Woody Allen is freaked out by the country because he’s certain it gave him Lyme Disease.

    Actually, I like the country. I’m freaked out about stepping on snakes and stuff, but I like the quiet, the earth and foliage, the bird watching, the cows mooing and owls calling at night etc but not sure I could live there as it requires WORK. Hoeing and tilling and shit.

    Also you won’t catch me dead living in a country town, especially in QLD, which is pitchfork and banjo territory akin to America’s deep south. Service in little delis? Liz H can come check out the Chiko rolls, Four n Twenty pies, Nescafe, Fourex and suspicious scowls.

    Bangalow is rather nice, but it’s more like Queen St Woollahra transplanted to Nthn NSW.

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    1. Über Virgo’s avatar

      Sagg rising, Aries moon.

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    2. davidl’s avatar

      Bangalow I consider that semi rural UV, its cheating..

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      1. Über Virgo’s avatar

        Sorry, any further and I feel like I’m in ‘Deliverance’, except without Burt Reynolds.

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        1. Über Virgo’s avatar

          that should have been ‘any further west’. Frazzled busy.

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  15. Melissa’s avatar

    I have just moved to the hills from the city. Not exactly country but certainly aways from it all.
    Never thought I would do it – always saw myself as Ms Urbane… but I absolutely love it. I love the space, the freshness, the isolation, that I can potter / work in my house without seeing or hearing anyone all day. I have discovered that it is ultra relaxing and restorative for me.

    Scorp sun, gemini moon :)

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  16. Baristagem’s avatar

    I grew up in the Hunter Valley & I have wonderful memories of that time. I had a lot of freedom & spent my weekends exploring the valley. Peeps always smiled at each other & you say to hello everyone. It was really sweet.
    We ate fresh food & used fresh tank water.
    (Which you really notice when you come to city is the taste of water……It stinks, I couldn’t drink it at first!)

    Amazing little place if you know all the beautiful secret spots, definitely a perk. Yah it’s quiet & I don’t know how I would go as an adult living there but as a child it is truly the most amazing experience I’ve had.

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    1. Baristagem’s avatar

      Gem sun & moon

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  17. william’s avatar

    huh? what? say somethin?

    just lookin at picture

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  18. pegasus’s avatar

    This Sagg is totally Cosmolopitan……………CBD or close as or beaches & tropics, perferabley
    en semble.
    Mountains are for men, Rivers are for women. A yin/yand thing.
    La mer translates as the mother.
    Need green & country not green enough for my taste in colour cept in rainforest.
    Lagoon blue turns me on.
    It’s about the colour.

    Custom Officer to G’friend: why are you going from Palm Beach to Tahiti?
    G’friend: prefer the colour of the water there.

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  19. pegasus’s avatar

    My nodes are the Scorpio/Taurus polarity.

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  20. william’s avatar

    new york is impossible on just about every level

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swzQPz8oB1w

    country just full of “Angtree? Boah, get up that hill!”

    can’t take it…

    arizona maybe has some space….

    trees make me nervous they scare me…they’re coming to get me I know it…
    reaching out gonna grab me ever since wiz of oz as child….

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  21. saggigal’s avatar

    i lurve the country- but it has to be a specific kind…ie, you wouldnt catch me dead living in a rural town in Oz. sorry, lots are lovely, but i’d go mad, plus not an actual fan of ‘the bush’. BUT love what i would refer to as ‘the wilderness’- specifically- overseas, aka NZ mountains, Canada mountains, etc. the more clean crisp air thing, where you can hike and canoe and drink cocoa and camp without fear of a zillion snakes and bugs. also love the ocean in general, any coastal strip no matter where in the world is good for me. cant do tropics.

    need the stimulus of a middle sized city to live though (not a fan of the ginormous ones either, need something in between…) where at least i can go to movies, have variety of restaurants etc at my finger tips, and alot of buzz.

    sagg sun, aries rising, aquarius moon.

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  22. matthew-minerva’s avatar

    LOL
    HI EVERYONE!
    saggo sun, moon and mercury
    I dont mind the country for a short stay – 2-4 days
    but COULD NEVER EVER LIVE THERE
    SORRY BUT CITY BOY ALL THE WAY! I NEED THE ADRENALINE PUMPING IN MY VEINS! I LOVE THE SOUND THE CHAOS ITS ALL LIKE STIMULATING :p
    MATT
    X

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    1. matthew-minerva’s avatar

      ps. “A poll – please & don’t hold back…Do you love or loathe the country?”
      can we actually do polls??? I WOULD LOVE TOO! WE SHOULD HAVE A POLL AS TO SEE WHICH SUN SIGN IS MOST POPULAR IN THE FORUM….
      my guess is tuareans! you are just so active in these posts lol!

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    2. Tiara’s avatar

      Hey I’m the same as you! Short stay is fine, but I need the city. The outdoors wants to eat me alive, I swear. However, I love farm animals, they are adorableness.

      Libra sun, sag rising, pisces moon – I think; the computer that has my chart is kabonked :|

      (also thanks to all the people that responded to me in past comments! I didn’t realise there were replies and they were awesome :D )

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  23. virgotothemaxx’s avatar

    I grew up in the (leafy) suburbs and I remember holiday trips to the country as a child – I would get very nervous if I couldn’t see buildings to the horizon. I later lived in an inner city commune of hippies and freaks, Helen Garner-style and loved it. Moved to the country 20 years ago. Small town – max pop 500. The culture shock was indescribably excruciating for about a year-and-a-half. Now I wouldn’t budge for anything. During the day all I can hear is the birds; at night the crickets and frogs – bliss! I regularly visit he river near where I live, to write, think, draw and swim. To go anywhere, like supermarket shopping, visiting friends, the movies etc, I have to drive for at least an hour and a half, during which time I get lots of thinking done, or just space out. There’s no reason to rush anywhere. I often fly to Sydney – it takes as long to drive to the airport as it does to fly 1000kms. Sure, to supplement one’s existence one must go to a lot of trouble but that enhances enjoyment and it’s always great to get home from people, traffic and rushing, to the peace and quiet. Ah, the serenity!

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  24. Savannah’s avatar

    Love the country I plan to go there after I’ve done my time here in the outback. It’s the nature aspect for me, watching the changing of the seasons via plants and animals. Like the people and sense of community.

    I’ve just spent almost 2 weeks in the city and I thoroughly enjoyed the dynamics of it. Lived in the city years ago and existed okay but always pined for the open spaces.

    I find that if my surroundings, no matter where, are ugly I get depressed pretty quick.

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  25. cheshire cap’s avatar

    I’ve got sagg south node bang on my asc line and I love the country. I’ve pretty much lived everywhere with late husb’s transfers and have had the best. Three stints in the city but never in the ‘burbs thankfully.

    Where I live I have so many choices. About two hours to anything in all directions. I live in a country town and we coffee at several great cafes, lunch at wineries, dine in pubs or restaurants with quality menus and have bookshops.

    I love going to the city to play, try new eateries, go to the theatre, either Bris or Sydney and like playing on the Sunshine Coast. I used to enjoy the Gold Coast but don’t now. I only go there when friends invite me to a celebration. When the kids were small we were transferred to Bundaberg but bought a house at Elliott Heads, 23 ks outside town on the coast. That’s my second favourite and the kids loved it and still talk about it as a great place to spend 6yrs after the restrictions of inner Bris living where they couldn’t ride bikes or go anywhere unsupervised.

    I grew up on a cattle property but like most country kids, left for the smoke. Alpha Tauri’s fallen in love with my town so I’m staying where I am hopefully till I buy my other tiny piece of ground ;)

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  26. virgo cat’s avatar

    I love both the country and the city.
    I like the vibrancy of the urban environment. People, sounds, stuff, the built form. But I do love the country (as in farming country). I like gardens and hay bales and animals and walking through fields of wheat and all that. Yep. Equal.
    Aries Moon. Mars Gem (whenever there is duality I attribute it to that).

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  27. Luinae’s avatar

    I’m a Kataka and I loathe the country! I love urban areas, the hustle and bustle, having things to do.
    I have Capricorn Rising, Taurus Moon, and Libra Mars.
    Capricorn and Taurus are Earth signs, so I should like the country. (No, I really do hate it) However, I have a LOT of Cancer, Scorpio and Gemini in my chart, so that probally balances it out

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  28. Lesly’s avatar

    Virgo with libra moon. I suppose my libran moon scales (that sounds so fanciful!) has me torn on this topic! I could never live out in the country completely, but I do adore it there. When I was a young girl my family used to truck up to Vemont or New Hampshire to see my mom’s family, so I spent many a summer exploring caves and woods and waterfalls (which I used to jump down at the ripe old age of five! Scared the hell out of my dad!) and winters ice skating on real lakes and riding with my uncle on his snowmobile. I live in a small town ten minutes away from the local city of Providence (super small in comparison to New York, but just big enough for me! I’m really short so I like to say the city is Lesly-sized). I can walk anywhere in this city and if not, I can take the bus or ride a bike and I LOVE that. I can’t say whether I prefer waltzing through the city or down country streets, because I like them both just the same I guess, but the perfect place for me is the tiny town next to the city. I can go to the noise and cement jungle for fun and then come back and relax in a quiet town and sit under a tree at the park and read. Best of both worlds, I suppose! Luckily, my state is small enough that I can go from the city to the country-side in a half an hour if I so choose. I did live in the country-side of Connecticut briefly, and ended up spending all my time roller blading through the country side chasing wild turkeys and exploring abandoned barns and the like. The problem was, I got NO human interaction, as I spent too much time immersing myself in nature.

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  29. seabird’s avatar

    Shell, I’m with you. grew up in deep country, no tv, no radio, early on we had no electricity either. Never ever get bored anywhere I live, in the middle of nowhere, in the country, in the middle of a big city. I will retire to the country though, I’m working on it slowly.
    Gemini sun, Aquarius moon, Taurus rising

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  30. Anonymous’s avatar

    The country can be stifling despite being surrounded by open space. Then there are the people – completely bats or completely unpretentious which is kind of refreshing. I live in the country and I like the serenity and the views. Watching the seasons change, even the day change. The afternoon sun slanting across the paddocks. I also like the city but I enjoy the feeling when I am leaving it behind as I drive out to my home. If only I was rich enough to have a city pad and my country house…
    Taurus Girl.

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  31. Bella’s avatar

    Detest the ‘burbs. Too samey.
    Hate the city, except for rare cultural visits. Too many people, too noisy, too fast. Have to visit national capital about every 3 months for work and always relieved to get back on the train and calm down as I leave it further behind me, able to think and breathe again.

    Spent early years in a cottage where the only access was a footpath, no road. Got my first pair of shoes when I started school. Ran wild and free in safe, open countryside. Grew up with vast open skies so find hills and mountains almost as threatening as cities.

    Happy where I am now. A couple of neighbours, who don’t speak to me – no idea why and doesn’t bother me at all. Look out over fields and ancient woodland. Walk to nearest village, and occasionally into little market town. No street lights, so see stars all the time. Wonderful clear night skies – can see venus from my bed at the moment. Didn’t realise she moved so fast. Watch owls, seasons, light, skies, can tell the time by the amount of light, the wind by the movement of the leaves. Can hear this 300+ year old house creak and it feels reassuring. Lack of human noise means I can hear the owls hunting, foxes and deer barking – through double glazed windows.

    Nearest city is an hour’s drive. Go there about once a year apart from work visits. Refuse to have meetings which require me to drive there in rush hour – too much stress! Rush hour here is 4 cars in an hour. Shop in the village (half an hours’ walk) and by mail order to avoid going to the supermarket more than about once a month, or walk into town to the market.

    I feel at one with my surroundings and totally part of my environment. I do stray out, but always want to come back home quite quickly. Once took a 6 month temp contract 3 hours away. Commuted 6 hours a day, plus regular delays, so I could be at home at night for my 4 hours sleep, before turning round and going back to work. No one in the city where I worked could understand why I didn’t stay over.

    The only real downside is that small community life is like living in a goldfish bowl. Everyone knows your business and you know theirs. But it is also what makes you part of the community and creates a strong sense of place. But there is a kind of unwritten law that certain things apply to everyone, such as seeing your neighbours’ underwear on the washing line is something you NEVER EVER discuss with anyone, or helping someone in need, no matter what you think of them – you are their only hope and you may need them one day. And no mobile signal is a blessing most of the time – calls are rarely truly urgent.

    I’m really glad others love city life. It means I can keep my sanctuary for myself! Apart from the likes of Ms Hurley, who gives country dwellers a bad name. Part of my region is totally blighted by weekending urbanites who destroy the local economy with very serious knock on effects. Lovely rural delis are fine for those who can afford them, but locals are priced out of everything and … oh don’t get me started. It’s a serious problem.

    Taurus sun/cancer moon/north node virgo in 12th – a country dwelling cliche?

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  32. unpredictable pisces’s avatar

    hi all, disclaimer, not read any of the above posts.

    love the country, shame about most of the people (townies at least). so, Townies: and they always complain about the city “there’s too many people!” duh it’s the city. and SO F*CKING RACIST.
    I prefer the farm-y salt of the earth types. I want to drive for 3 hours on a dirt track, THEN I’m in the country. the farm types understand nature rules their life, they are comfortable with dirt, biology (calving, gore, death, birth), rutted out muddy roads, and they are handy with just about anything.

    on the other hand, city folk in the country are hilarious, tottering around over-dressed and complaining in loud voices about how quaint things are, or old fashioned, or ‘you just can’t get a good latte around here!” (you can, it’s just local knowledge and we’re not going to share that space with a tosser).

    lastly i need a big urban fix regularly so am not bagging city life. love city life.
    xox

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    1. unpredictable pisces’s avatar

      moon in cap, 8th i guess i like to keep it real. gem rising probably vamps up my need for city stimulation. i have learnt that in the country/rtgional areas you have to get your OWN stimulation – work for it. try it – it’s rewarding! :)

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  33. Triple Cancer Chick’s avatar

    I was born in Paddington Sydney and moved to Victorian Country when I was five. Moved to inner city Melb when I was 17 which was over 20 years ago now. I love country and city.

    I grew up on 200 acres in a beautiful area in the foot hills of the Victorian Alps. It wasn’t used as a farm anymore but was an old dairy farm 10 kilometres from the nearest town, our nearest neighbours about 2 kilometres away. The house was set back from the road and up a a hill, over half a k from the main road so completely private.

    We had a dam and a few creeks running through the property. the front area was cleared with paddocks but the back was untouched bushland and ravines with spring fed creeks running through.

    We had platypus in the creek and heaps of kangaroos and wallabies., possums, echidnas and wombats, lot’s of snakes too. The birdlife was incredible.

    I used to spend hours wandering around the bush as a kid. I enjoy going back home now too although mum and dad are now in town, “town” is tiny and very peaceful…

    To escape parents we used to go camping a bit. Most of my other friends were out of town too, a lot on farms. We’d also swim in local water holes and creeks and dams as often as going to the local pool.

    I now live in inner suburbs in Melbourne and love that just as much, I enjoy eating out and cafe culture. I love having local melbourne designer cloth shops and fantastic delis walking distance from me. I revel in having choice in entertainment. I appreciate Melbourne visually as a city too. I love the victorian archotecture and the green belts and our parks and the diversity of people. The music, the art, the culture, I would miss all this if I moved.

    So thinking about it, I’ve really only experienced one country area and one city fully. Both in my opinion are the best of what country and city have to offer. Maybe I would have a different view if I’d grown up in less beautiful part of the world or if i’d moved to a city not as great as Melbourne.

    I can see myself moving back to the country when I retire maybe or if I change careers. For my particular role in IT it’s pretty much Sydney or Melbourne and I cannot imagine ever living in Sydney. Sydney is beautiful but it does not appeal to me.

    I don’t know how I’d go in true suburbia, i’ve never done that I hope I never have to.

    Sun, moon, merc. Cancer, Virgo asc, venus gem, mars aq.

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  34. s’s avatar

    first time caller, long time listener!

    sag sun, virgo moon, leo asc.

    i like the country, i daydream often of long walks through fields and finding a tree to lay and take a nap under. i love the forest more though.. the vivid green makes me feel relaxed and comfortable. this summer so far ive spent lots of time smoking drugs in the forest, and walking through a field near my house. its really made me feel much more comfortable and happy.
    i live in the toronto suburbs but dont like the city much, but i love vancouver.

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