Astro-Baby…

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Mary Cassatt

By popular demand-nagging-guilting-wheedling, I am introducing a new feature – Astro-Baby!  I do find astrology a fascinating way to help understand your children. I have retrieved from the archives an old anecdote re my son – who is Kataka but with a multiple Leo conjunction – to illustrate & as I think it’s funny.  It’s below…I don’t do charts for children generally as it is nice to let them blossom and see how they manifest their astro. But they work really well…It’s good to look at some key points of their chart. eg; Having been fine at swimming as a toddler, my boy suddenly developed this extreme water phobia, which nothing would cure. Then one day at the swimming  pool, when he was about seven, he noticed two “older” girls staring at him and he dove straight in the deep end. Phobia cured.  That’s your multiple-Leo in action.

So is this;

He’s a teenager now. Mars, Mercury Jupiter all in Leo…Anyway, he went to the doctor, suspecting that he had picked up some vile gastric thing from his trip to Thailand…

Comes home, saying the doctor said he’s fine…

Me: Really?

Multi-Leo: Yeah. She was really attactive and she said i had amazing abs.

Me: What about the gastric thing?

Multi-Leo: Oh fine. But I said no to having diarrhea or flatulence because I didn’t want to ruin the image she so clearly had of me being really fit and all.

Me: Are you for real?

Multi-Leo: She thinks it might be something to do with our furniture…

Me: Furniture?  Did you actually go to see a DOCTOR? Or just chat up someone at the gym?

Multi-Leo: Yeah, she wants a stool sample. Do we even have any stools?

And with my daughter, she has Sun-Mars-Venus in Gemini/in the 5th house so absolutely craves creativity, art, knowledge & goss. But also Neptune Rising so slack at admin to a stupendous degree…She would rather draw or listen to music. Neptune Rising is beautiful, charismatic & artistic but can be hopeless re “reality.” But the Multi-Gemini means she has an astonishingly quick mind & encylopediac knowledge of about 100 people and their biz. She just knows things – every bit of info is processed, filed appropriately & stored.

So, without projecting a whole lot onto them, have a look at just your childs Sun, Rising and Moon sign – see if you can see how they’re operating…Nurture the Moon, respect the Rising & let the Sun just shine…And if they’re contradictory influences, see how you can help them work together a bit more. eg; Leo Rising is a show-off & will respond to music like you wouldn’t believe but if the Moon is in Scorpio, they need a locked box, secret diary sort of a thing and the absolute assurance of privacy.

Another example; My son’s Moon is in Virgo conjunct Venus so that’s innately health-conscious. He saw Supersize Me & totally altered his eating habits that very day. He invents his own little health rituals such as eating an entire garlic & fancy kinds of push-ups. So a Moon in Virgo child feels secure with healthy rituals & would love – for example-  his/her own diary or scheduler. A Moon in Libra child would be more likely to respond to aromatherapy than other Moons – maybe even tidy a room if they get to spritz a little something around later. Aries anything needs to compete & will go psycho-bats if give the kind of well-meaning goo-goo that they can’t. Taurus hates having their stuff moved around.

So I will do more along these lines in future Astro-Baby…

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  1. prowlncat’s avatar

    My daughter is a double Piscean with moon in Gemini – so very VERY vague, sensitive, extremely creative and untidy, plus an odd mix of shy and sociable. She has this phobia for reading the instructions on how to do anything, god help everyone when she gets behind the wheel of a car. She thinks I’m way too intense about everything, which is probably true.

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    1. Mystic Medusa’s avatar

      Lol so similar to my girl only she’s Gemini-Neptunian…She’s already declared she’s not going to drive ever…Draws pictures that stun me with their composition, ideas behind and originality etc but all notes from school are basically read by me as paper-mache.
      Actually i have issues with instructions too & don’t drive due to being completely cuckoo at it. Is a service to society, truly. More peeps should opt out if it’s not truly them.

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      1. Libra Twins’s avatar

        Does anyone have any hints on handling this Gemini Neputunian conjunction? My Aqua Aries Aries has this in her 10th squaring Mars in Taurus 1st and it’s not helping her learning to read or concentration at all.

        She’ll watch fantasy/magic movies for hours on end, Harry P and Lord of the rings when she was just 3, loved Charmed and any form of fairies. So I think she’ll love escaping into these books when she can read, it’s just getting her there! I’ve got the same conjunction in Scorpio in 5th and adored books and got reading really early, was and am still a complete bookworm.

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  2. Sweetpea’s avatar

    Too bad I gotta go to bed but will love reading the responses here later.

    Can certainly tell by your Multi Gem daughter Mystic that you hold nothing personal against them… ;)

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    1. Sweetpea’s avatar

      Loved the “stool” story….

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    2. Mystic Medusa’s avatar

      Lol, of course not! And i still remember the Gemini Spy i used to date so fondly, even though he was terribly, terribly tricky.

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      1. Libra Twins’s avatar

        I’m multi Gem too MM and been reading this blog for a few months. I’ve never picked up an anti Gem bias. I’ve actually picked up a number of tricks you’ve given for handling my multi-tasking, thinkingness/inability to do one thing at a time.
        It’s good to get the good and the bad of each trait, gives us an idea of how we are perceived by others.

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        1. Libra Twins’s avatar

          FYI
          Of course I always have at least four windows open at once on Internet explorer! Love it.

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  3. Libra Twins’s avatar

    I have two daughers, they’re still little but;

    5yo Aqua, Aries, Aries and Mars in 1st house for good measure – has, has, has to be first, (thank heavens she’s the oldest really or she’d be really disappointed for a start). After only a couple of months on computer seems to be showing an aptitude for it, but not getting much other Aqua tendancies, apart from the grey blue eyes, especially given Aqua Mercury as well. Maybe 5 is too young to be a hippy or the whole Aries/Mars is just too much for a hippy?

    3 yo – Libra, Cap, Virgo – peacemaker extraordinaire, Libra merc as well, (just as well given elder sister really), follows me around the kitchen shutting the cupboards and drawers. Stubborn though, really really stubborn, or maybe that should be determined? Loves babies don’t know where that comes in though?

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    1. fluid feline’s avatar

      LT determined sounds better, anyway aren’t all 3 year olds stubborn egocentric little people.

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      1. Leonine Librarian’s avatar

        Finely focussed is another alternative to stubborn.
        I use discerning a lot with my Sagg daughter rather than picky.

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        1. Libra Twins’s avatar

          LL finely focussed is fantastic and determinedly so. She is far to charming the rest of the time to be stubborn really. She’s also got the Mars Venus opposition going for her.

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  4. fluid feline’s avatar

    Oh I love this, so fun watching my two live out their astro. Polar opposites in many ways.

    Ok 11 year old daughter Aqua sun, Toro moon and Scorp asc. Yes she’s very stubborn and loves her “stuff” but she is also very creative (Jup/Mars fish in 5th) and empathic (Chiron in 1st, Nep conj Sun). When she is interested in something she’s like a super-sleuth researcher and never gives up. But try getting her to do something she’s not interested in – I just don’t bother anymore. When she was a baby people would approach and say to me – she’s an old soul. She has a huge infectious smile that people comment on despite that Scorp asc. She has Nep/Merc/Uranus/Sun all conj in 4th house – very private person. She’s super sensitive to environments – noisy, bad vibes get to her so we’ve learnt to temper that. The upside of that is she’s very musical, has the ear as they say. She is also frustratingly untidy but hey I can live with that. I love that she follows her own path, not worried about her losing her way as she is not a follower.

    Soon to be 9 year old son – Leo 1.22 sun/Aries moon/Virgo asc. He’s my 24/7 boy (that’s his b’day). Very active and social (sun/mars/NN in 11th) – there’s no chilling and having a pj day with him around. Is involved in many extracurricular activities and his friends. I never have to tell him to do his homework – he’s onto it all (Virgo asc) and stresses about scheduling. Lately his energy levels werer out of control, he can’t even sit still for a meal, and he talks non-stop – tells me everything – I know this is good but drives us (me and aqua daughter) nuts at times. So he started Tae Kwon Do and he loves it and as it’s two nights per week it is really helping to constructively channel all that energy. He also plays rugby (same team for four years), piano, and does speech and drama plus swimming in summer. He is very body conscious and competitive, esp with school work, but it’s tempered by that Virgo ascendant, so not overtly competitive – we just hear every little detail at home! Our charts are reversed as I have fish rising, yet both Leo suns – mine is conj his venus in Leo. His Merc is conj my Moon in Kataka. Also both my kids have their NN in the 11th and mine is opposite in the 5th.

    Other astro synchronicity I’ve noted – my asc is exactly conj my father’s sun and my daughter’s asc is exactly conj her father’s sun. My daughter has Chiron in Scorp in 1st at the same degree as my Chiron in Fish in the first. Both kids have their moon in the 7th house.

    Yep, I’m full on with this stuff, but I’ve got Kataka NN/Vertex/Mars in 5th conj Venus in Gem end of 4th AND Moon in Kataka in the 5th.

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  5. davidl’s avatar

    3 kids
    no1. sun leo.. moon virgo.. asc cap
    no.2 sun cancer.. moon pisces.. asc scorp
    no.3 sun gem.. moon cancer.. asc pisces

    and I find it all a touch confusing…

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    1. fluid feline’s avatar

      davidl, maybe if you do their charts and contemplate them over time it’ll come. You wife is a Cancerian no? Well she is obviously is well attuned to them by the basics of sun/moon/asc. I’m sure if you have their charts you will see many connections to you. It’s fascinating and helpful to do it.

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      1. davidl’s avatar

        I find it a touch confusing cause none of them seem to display any of their ascendant tendencies. My gem son is so gem and so not pisces while my other son is sooo cancer and so not scorp in his approach?

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        1. fluid feline’s avatar

          That is confusing. I thought that ascendant tendencies were meant to be strongest in childhood?

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  6. taurean alchemist’s avatar

    15 year old daughter fifth house Cancer Sun, Leo Moon, Aqua Rising… def hair obsessed, social-as-anything, but true to Aqua Rising is a total Brainiac, and true individual. V detached, hard-shell crab, often stoic but to her Mama a total mush-bucket.

    13 year old daughter, Seventh house Sadge Sun, Virgo Moon, Gemini Ascendant…. leeeeeannn and lanky, but with a mass of curly hair (sprung up overnight at age 12), very driven and meticulous, straight A student, Class Representative, would-be-candidate for every award, prefect-ship and has co-curricular activities after school every day. Voice like an angel – don’t know where that comes from!

    8 year old daughter, fifth house Cancer Sun, Capricorn Moon (both conjunct the Nodes as she was born during a total lunar eclipse) and Aqua rising (yes, I have two Cancers with Aqua Rising)… this one is such a quirky little individual, will spend HOURS lost in her ART (has claimed to be an artist since she was four, and scoffs at anyone who suggests she’ll be an artist when she ‘grows up’). Prone to standing on her head singing ‘the lady and the crocodile’ any time. Is too beautiful for words (Cap moon bone structure?) and unlike daughter number one is a little stick bug of a kid who looks like the wind might blow her away.

    6 year old daughter, fifth house Virgo Sun, Cancer Moon, Aries Rising: Virgo Sun is conjunct Mars – she’s a bit wild really. More like the son I never realised I wanted. But oh so Virgoan in that she really pays attention to detail and is the only way I remember my grocery list.

    2 year old daughter, seventh house Taurus Sun, Capricorn Moon, Libra Rising. Very social, rockstar waves at everyone, remembers all the names of her peers (at daycare) and is as quick as a flash at learning. She responds to routines (Capishness, yes?) and is generally earthy and grounded and gorgeous. Never a moment’s trouble.

    did I miss anyone??

    I noticed that the children all have planets conjunct each other’s and mine – especially on that Capricorn-Cancer axis, where their moons (and one child’s venus) are also conjunct my Vertex/Anti-Vertex. And if I do a multi-person composite we have the Sun at that exact point too. (same place as CUB/Mine composite Sun, and if he is added to the mix the Sun is still there at 24 Cancer – spoooky!!!)

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    1. fluid feline’s avatar

      TA not spooky just synchronicity at work – I love that. Not planned just true. What’s with all the 5th and 7th house sun’s do you think? By the way where is your own moon?

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      1. taurean alchemist’s avatar

        so true Feline my friend… and my moon is at 24 Libra (second daughter, the Sadge, has her North Node there, exact to the minute)

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        1. fluid feline’s avatar

          Ooh you are soo venusian then? Maybe that has something to do with the creation of all the girls! And you are there to help the Sadge with realising her NN – yes?

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          1. taurean alchemist’s avatar

            well, yes, I think you’re right – I wonder how that’ll manifest?

          2. fluid feline’s avatar

            Only time will tell, that’s what I love about astro, the mystery and the synchronicity. Hopefully we’ll be here to hear it manifest TA. (If I could I’d put in a smiley face but I’m a ludite and don’t know how – can anyone enlighten me)

          3. taurean alchemist’s avatar

            smiley face is a colon : with a parenthesis ) :)

          4. fluid feline’s avatar

            Thank TA

          5. fluid feline’s avatar

            “:)”

          6. Über Virgo’s avatar

            Feline, I wrestled with the finer points of smileys a few weeks ago and had to get a ton of help. You don’t need the inverted commas. I also found this invaluable page. A must have for expressive blogging http://codex.wordpress.org/Using_Smilies

          7. Sweetpea’s avatar

            Oh Uber that is a fab link! Thnx. Still don’t see a crossed eyed smiley though. I suppose there are not crossed “dots” on the keyboard?

          8. fluid feline’s avatar

            Thanks Uber :-)

  7. seabird’s avatar

    My child is a Libra’s Libran. Myself as a terrible Gemini and awful single mother am frequently losing it, uttering out loud ‘What am I doing here?’ with alarming frequency, and nagging my daughter about just about everything. I often used to picture myself as a bird trapped in a house-cage, fluttering at the windows to be let out but unable to leave because of my child asleep in the next room. So not mother-material, let alone single-mother-material.

    Meanwhile, my 5 year-old Libran will be smiling at me and saying, ‘it’s ok mummy, it’s not your fault’.

    Yesterday I said to her that she was responsible for teaching me grace, forgiveness and patience (three words not especially found in the Gemini vocabulary). I remember her birth, she came out smiling a serene and beautiful smile, and when the cord was cut, she didn’t cry, just sighed. She is still the same. I am constantly astounded by her equilibrium, especially given such a wayward and sometimes teenagerish mother. Somehow, she just knows, shrugs it off, and carries on, at the same time showing me up and forcing me to examine my own motives in action. My only hope is that she grows up to know how much I love her.

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    1. fluid feline’s avatar

      Aww that’s lovely seabird. And she already knows (how much you love her), and it’s all that matters. My aqua girl is a little similar in that sometimes I get the strangest feeling that she “knows” more than me and i get an “everything is ok” vibe. It’s that old-soul thing.

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    2. taurean alchemist’s avatar

      yes, seabird, how beautiful! I love that, and can picture it perfectly (having had at least one child born with a smile and who didn’t cry).

      They say you get exactly the child you need, and I’ve found it to be true, again and again, and, well, you get the picture ;)

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  8. seabird’s avatar

    Also, Mystic, absolutely love the picture for this blog. The look that the mother is giving her child is exactly it, isn’t it, detached but somehow loving, observing, but the arms around the child showing her protectiveness.

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  9. Lexicon Limbo’s avatar

    Can anyone recommend a site that gives you details of child horoscope? Astrodienst doesn’t provide it for kids under 6. Am curious about my niece who is 3. Cap sun. Am kinda concerned about how ritual based she is. She loves routine. Does not cope with things being done outside of that routine. something as basic as us getting up to sing & dance to Donnie & Marie Show. I HAVE to stand on her left. I try to explain it’s ok for me to be on her right but she doesn’t cope with it. She remembers how everything is done the 1st time round & that is how it has to be done each time thereafter. Is this standard behaviour??

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    1. fluid feline’s avatar

      LL you can do charts for kids on Astrodienst under (i think) extended chart selection. But maybe you will have to interpret her chart. I’m sure I’ve done the astro click interpretations for my kids on that site, but I’ll check.

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    2. Über Virgo’s avatar

      You can still bring up the chart there Lex, just not horoscope readings. Put the details in and go to Free Horoscopes, then Chart Drawing & Ascendant. It will give you all the planetary positions on a table with the chart.

      It sounds as if that little one has some fixed signs as moon or Asc. I’m gunning for Taurus in there somewhere. I know some kids like this. Perfectly healthy, just very attached to routines.

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      1. fluid feline’s avatar

        Or Virgo? They love routine. My Virgo asc boy is very routine. A bit difficult to my fish asc but as I have Saturn there as well I can cope. He’s my diary/alarm clock/policeman etc.

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        1. Über Virgo’s avatar

          Can’t remember if I was into routines. I was very anal though. More than I am now.

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          1. fluid feline’s avatar

            Yes I agree. I think we all become the higher version of our signs as we evolve/age – not necessarily the same thing. And you Uber I would thinkk of as the former.

          2. Über Virgo’s avatar

            U R a sweetie Feline.

    3. Über Virgo’s avatar

      Taurean Alchemist also pointed out that if you click the ‘view additional tables (PDF)’ up comes all the tables for positions. I guess you have to know the glyphs.

      Hi Feline, we’re posting the same thing at the same time.

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      1. Lexicon Limbo’s avatar

        Thanks everyone!

        Ok UV you were right – she has taurus ascendant. Moon is in Sagg.

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    4. cheshire cap’s avatar

      This sounds like a description of my sister when very young She was a Cap with Pisces Moon and Scorp rising, merc in Cap. She grew more flexable as she matured but she always had her little routines and adapted to changes slowly but when she had embraced the changes it was full steam ahead.

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      1. Mauvellous Capricorn’s avatar

        lol, that is my chart exactly! : )

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    5. Mystic Medusa’s avatar

      Of course it is! She’s a Cap! This is why Astro so awesome as it’s so easy to think peeps unlike us are ‘rigid’ or whatever the word du jour but Caps like to do things by the book…This serves them amazingly well when it comes to, for example, getting difficult degrees. Or rocket science. Things you can’t just wing. When she is older, that love of ritual etc can also be chanelled into music and other things that reward diligence and then she will also realise the gift of reverie et al…Caps also often great at gardening! And cooking…Get her a kids cookbook is my advice…

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      1. fluid feline’s avatar

        Hi Mystic, I’m curious about your non-driving. My Cap sun sister-in-law doesn’t drive anymore after a series of non-life-threatening incidents whilst driving. She took her time to get her license – 21 I think. She’s a barrister/lawyer/policy writer and lives in Byron Bay yet commutes to Brisbane to work 2 days per week at the office and the rest of the time she works from home. Ditto her Sagg hb yet he does all the driving. She has fish asc but was wondering what the astro signature for fear of driving may be? Hope this isn’t too personal.

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        1. unpredictable pisces’s avatar

          it sounds like she’s had a her confidence shaken by those non life threatening incidents but no one has taken the time to encourage her to get back on the horse (ie behind the wheel). some people are genuinely bad, inattentive drivers and whether she is one of those & she sees herself as a lost cause, or just needs a few professional driving lessons to get back in there & refocus, maybe you could ask her.

          I know a lot of aquas who have had big car smashes or lost licences, etc, maybe that will help. some kind of distracted uranian aspect?

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          1. fluid feline’s avatar

            UP I think it’s just that she’s very vague (Pisces asc with Neptune on her midheaven). She is totally disorganised in real life (I could never share a house with her) and maybe her not driving is a good thing. Yet has other strengths – totally vegetarian, into Vipassna (spelling?), meditation, growing own vegies, recycling nut etc. Has travelled the world and lived in the US for two years on a green card. They go on holidays to India and Thailand to go to yoga retreats and don’t speak for up to two weeks, in separate male/female accommodation.

            God my fingers are frozen, so cold here. Had to keep retyping this.

      2. cheshire cap’s avatar

        :lol: My sister was a lousy and extremely reluctant cook. If you’d given her a cookbook she would have thanked you then filed it alphabetically and possibly gifted it on after a suitable time lapse. Her theory was that god wouldn’t have invented take-aways if she hadn’t meant them to be used as often as possible.

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        1. cheshire cap’s avatar

          when she was a child she would have used it to suit some purpose known only to her by giving it as a buttering up offering saying ” A lovely astrologer gave this to me and it’s one of my favourite things but because you’re my best friend, I’m giving it to you” fluttering eyelashes over beautiful amber eyes then adding “will it be ok if I borrow *whatever*” or something along those lines

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  10. seabird’s avatar

    Yeah, maybe you do get the child you need – or rather, the powers that be looked at the mother (moi!) and thought, well, we’d better give the little one something to deal with the parental. Sometimes I get the uncanny feeling that she’s older than me, although she expresses herself in five-year-old terms

    Caught her singing the song ‘a-huntingwe will go’ the other day. Had misheard the words and was singing ‘a-hyping we will go’. Asked her about it and she said ‘yeah, it’s like camping only different.’ For sure!

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  11. seabird’s avatar

    Hey, TA, now I know you have 5 kids (I’m f***ing impressed BTW!) maybe I rescind that comment on the other thread to just pack ‘em all up and head off. Maybe sit on that for a while. And you do all this yourself? Man, I really need to get a grip on my own situation. (I should have been an astronaut…:-) Kudos to you!

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    1. taurean alchemist’s avatar

      thanks seabird! I really love having this big family, even though I’m not partnered. Maybe my Taurean possessiveness kicks in and I’m more than happy to raise them MY way, lol.

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      1. fluid feline’s avatar

        I love it and think you are brave. And obviously the benefits of your beautiful girls. I too am single mum now and before it happened, knew it was going to happen and was like my worst fear. And guess what? Not gruesome at all, feel like i’m in my own skin so to speak. Wish I’d had more children. Love love love being a mother. Salute you TA!

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  12. Matthew Minerva’s avatar

    im sooo using this on my family members as i have no kids of my own – *COUGH* IM ONLY 15! llol, my twin brothers who turn 3 tomorow are majorilly different, one has a ariean AC, the other a Tuarean –
    Matt

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  13. pegasus’s avatar

    Is it harder to be the child of a parent or the parent of a child:)?

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    1. fluid feline’s avatar

      Chicken or the egg – definitely the parent of the child is easier in my minds eye BUT I had a shitty childhood – Saturn conj asc – textbook and I have NN in 5th in Kataka so for me my reality now is easy. Others may disagree SO it’s all individual I’m guessing Peg.

      I’ve had a lot to say here so better shut up. I’m off to watch the ABC, or else may seem obsessive!

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  14. seabird’s avatar

    I didn’t cope at all well with single-motherdom for a long time. I am getting to grips with it now, with space and time. I saw it as unfair and an impingement on my freedom, but i chose to have a child, no-one put it on me. I felt for a long time that i wasn’t responsible enough or clever enough, and I used to look at my baby daughter and cry because I felt she deserved someone calmer and less skittish. But now I AM calmer and less skittish, and I cannot imagine life without her. I can’t say I am excellent yet, there are still times when I have dreams that i am alone, but I am a vast improvement on the sleep-deprived wreck of a mother I was when she was 8 months old. I feel sometimes that she’s had to grow up very quickly, but then, she’s up to the task. The only way, in the end, that I can parent her is by being myself with brakes on, which means she gets pulled all over the country and all over the world, she meets everyone, does everything with me, and through it all she’s as calm and as sociable as can be. And gorgeously beautiful to boot.
    After writing above that she’s a Libran’s Libran, I put her details into Astro for the first time and brought up her chart. Libran ascendant as well. so there we go….!

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    1. fluid feline’s avatar

      seabird – who is not a wreck of a mother with a first child under 12 months? Don’t be so hard on yourself – we’re all sleep-deprived maniacs at that stage, no one’s responsible or clever enough, that’s universal but no one tells you that, it’s all made into fairy tale gloss. The fact that you are there with hera at 5 and seeing her beauty is testament to your love for her. Have you ever looked at it from the p.o.v. that she is gaining so much by your travels? Libran’s Libra = lucky girl. Go seabird mum.

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      1. Leonine Librarian’s avatar

        Seabird the ‘not clever enough or responsible enough’ still hovers over my parenting concerns…sometimes anyway, and my children are now 20 and 25.

        I just hope that my best at various ages of growth, the desire to see each daughter as her unique self and surety that they know they are loved is enough to make up for my less than clever and or responsible moments.

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  15. seabird’s avatar

    I think you can be a calm wreck. I was a raving wreck! But thankyou, your comments are lovely!

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  16. LeoGroover’s avatar

    With you in motherhood spirit seabird. it does get easier with age and the syncro of your charts will work for you. I’m leo with aqua rising and my boys are aqua rising and leo rising so shazam! but yes it is hard work as small kids. now I know what my poor mum had to put up with a Leo party girl daughter and she survived.

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  17. seabird’s avatar

    LL – exactly
    Funnily enough, I shared the driving phobia outlined above – refused utterly to have anything to do with cars. But when i became single I decided i had to get it under control, in case something happened to my daughter. Passed my license at the age of 32, and had to use it the following week -in car by myself, peak-hour traffic on a raining Friday evening in Melbourne in winter on Princes highway bypass in Carlton – because my daughter had pneumonia – not been so scared for a long time but the whole time I was thinking of her.
    I think fear of driving is utterly comprehensible – I always thought people who could drive were somehow immune to the fear I felt. I still shiver a little every time I get into the car, which in a place with no public transport is every day.

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  18. Mauvellous Capricorn’s avatar

    Have just the one wee ratbag, a millenium baby.

    Cap sun, Sag rising, Libran moon. A complicated creature.

    She is very practical. But messy. Very loving. Fluid in her friendships, and anyone can be her friend – and she will be aware of their shortcomings and love them anyway. Will talk (and she can TALK) to anyone she’s known for more than 10 minutes, but painfully shy up to that point. Very protocol oriented, e.g. at the moment she’s playing chess with a new friend during lunch, I encourage her to talk to him, but she informs me that they’re still at the ‘polite’ stage. Drives her father and I crazy when she gets into a frame where she absolutely cannot stop talking about anything and everything… to herself… to us. Can be totally bossy, quite mature in some ways. Has a complete phobia of being hurt – was carrying a pencil pointed at her chest one day and I pointed out how silly that was and how she could damage herself if she fell, she cried her eyes out in hysteria. And screamed that she didn’t want to hear it. Very often falls about laughing after she’s had a good cry.

    Loves animals (particularly horses – but she’s keeping Scorpions, which she loves – although any animal would please her). Anecdote – was scratched on the face by the cat who was sleeping on her bed during the day. Twice, so both sides of the face are now scratched. I saw this coming, and warned her, but she ignored me. I do let her make her own mistakes sometimes, as she is argumentative. She cried because this had ruined her beauty (I assure her she’ll heal up fine). Later that afternoon, it came to light that the cat had hurt its paw. Now all is forgiven, and she’s all back to beauty on the inside, but still that she did quite like the way she looked. I can’t quite remember exactly how she phrased that particular comment, but her wording is often priceless.

    Talks often on what will happen when she is an adult, in great detail, including how she will raise her children. She is going to be harder on them than her father and I are on her. Most people who know her consider her a truly good child, and she is.

    She has a very quirky outlook on life. When she’s content in herself, this comes to the fore and it is truly precious.

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  19. bluelibra’s avatar

    So many entries – just want to say Thank You to Mystic for opening this discussion as the astrological realm of our children is so often overlooked My children are my ultimate lessons – from the practical yet artistic CAPRICORN daughter who defied every expectations of a baby doll even before the end of her first day to now, the cusp of teenagehood – she’s messy yet conservative, cant understand flesh-revealing fashion, loves boxing as her sport, and thinks her mother is so wispy, insubstantial and inaccurate on any aspect of life. ‘No’ is her favourite word and she refuses to either brush her hair or wear matching socks – except on odd socks day. My divine son, (yes, I know) is Libran-Virgo cusp – so compatible with his Libra-Scorp cusp mother people say I dote on him beyond reason but he’s so utterly lovable, charming, amenable, non-violent, diplomatic, tactile (I could go on) and he’s only ten… I’ve been very blessed and am grateful. :)

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  20. Mauvellous Capricorn’s avatar

    I went to astro.com (where mystic recommends getting charts from) and did an ‘astroclick’ horoscope, which shows children’s interpretations. Mine runs very true to a lot of hers.

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  21. weathergirl’s avatar

    Mauvellous Cap–love the anecdotes about your girl. Much of this reminds me of me (Cap Sun, Sagg Rising, tho’ Aries Moon– not so much equilibrium there!).

    I call my 7yo girl The Friendly Anarchist. Libra Rising, Aqua Sun, Gem Moon. And EIGHT planets (incl.NN) in air signs. I am frequently exhausted with this combo –She’s always got 20 plans to my one, but I’m really determined about my one!

    Actually, I’ve found astrology to be EXTREMELY helpful –a life-saver, actually–when it came to understanding and helping my girl. She was diagnosed as being on the autism spectrum at 18 mos. Very early. Problem was, she defied so many standard behaviors of the disorder. Later came the astro and a few revelations.

    This past winter Pluto hit a very sensitive point on her chart –3rd house Chiron in Cap square 5th house Mars in Aries. It was a tough time. Lots of “I’ll never have a brother or sister!!!” and tons of aggression and very adolescent outbursts of “YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND ME!” Big pain. Serious pain. I had to drop several things in my life and spend extra (structured) time with her. I get the whole problem, though: my own Chiron is my third house; hers IC conjuncts my Sun, and her Chiron is just a blip away.

    We began music lessons not long after (structure!). She’s tremendously grateful about this. And I have NEVER had to remind her to practice. She owns her ambition at the keyboard. Now composes her own music. It’s like she’s discovered another language –one she finally understands and soothes her. And her teacher is lovely. Sooooo grateful!

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    1. cheshire cap’s avatar

      Weathergirl, you have my commiserations and empathy. I’m a Cap, sagg rising but Sagg moon and one of my daughters is a Gem, Leo rising Cap moon. When she was much younger I climbed the walls but dancing was my saviour as it focused her need for physical activity and concentration. She also loved her music and voice lessons but dance was IT. She’s now a mother of four and a dance teacher and her children adore her. In what spare time she has she’s studying psychology externally.

      I also have two Virgo daughters, a Pisces son and a Taurus son, all grown up and survived my mothering.

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      1. weathergirl’s avatar

        Ah, lovely encouragement! Thx, CC!! So glad to know they all survived your mothering. Surely there’s hope for me, too.

        My girl already has six imaginary children (as set for the farm and a set for the city–lol). With all her energy, she could do with a brood! :-)

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  22. fish out of water’s avatar

    My two year old taurean has aries rising and moon in cancer. He is super tactile and would cuddle for an hour after waking from his daytime sleep if i let him just fiddling with my clothes, preferable soft cotton, but the ultimate is LACE. As an 18 month old i had to peel him off the front window of a bras and things christmas display – twice! Am STILL breastfeeding him to sleep and cant see how he is ever going to stop! Is that a moon in cancer thing?

    He can be quick to get frustrated and wants me to do everything with him all the time. Loves the garden, sits down and says hello to the different trees and plants and can already remember a lot of their names. He is a really sweet boy who befriends the broken pegs in the basket and asks them if they’re ok.

    Our first year together was pretty much torture re sleep, feeding tummy pains, pretty much everything. especially sleep. Ive certainly increased my patience threshold 1000%. Im a piscean with sag moon and cap asc. Im still learning to let go of the controls somewhat and i have a feeling thats a lesson that is going to continue for a long time yet!

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