You can tell a lot about a het bloke from his Venus. Or HER Venus if she be gay. It’s what he fancies. And of course there is the Moon as well, but that’s more like the Mother, what he feels comfie with. If you want to analyze his pure lust/falling-for quotient check out the Venus; the sign & the house + any aspects but stick within a few degrees of exactitude or else you went send yourself bats.
It’s eerily accurate. For example, a guy has (say) Venus in Saggo. Rock up tanned & with some top you got at a market in Thingistani. Wear turquoise beads. Be fidgety. Get emo about how important the separation of Church & State is to you. Say you’re actually really bummed out because your snowboard hasn’t been fixed yet. Putty in your hands. Of course if he has his Venus in Saggo square Pluto than you also casually mention that your last relationship broke up because he wasn’t kinky enough. Trine Saturn? You cut your last trip short to come back and do some bush regeneration volunteer work that also helped you get in some networking with Blah-Corp.
Venus in friendly aspect to the Moon means there is not any conflict between women he feels aroused by and those he feels relaxed with. When they square, it’s tricky. eg; I know a Taurus with a Kataka Venus who has the most hyperbolic nesting and canny security conscious partner ever but he’s got Moon in Sagg, plays up when away on the old-fash grounds that it does not count when in a motel.
My teenage son has Venus + Moon in Virgo & has always liked girls who are what he calls “nimble” as well as “fastidious” and he will fall out of love/lust at warp speed if there is even one symptom of thickness such as a malaprop or mispronounciation. Ramzilla-Ex has Moon in Aquarius trine Venus in Gemini so brilliant at giving women their space & respecting/supporting their individuation but would withdraw as if facing kryptonite at the hint of any emo.
As an experiment, try it – channel an over the top version of your lover’s Venus for just six hours. And see what happens. Don’t blame me if it backfires. If he (or she) has Venus in Aries, boast about your bench presses and delivery awesomely up yourself but quite motivating pep talks. Venus in Capricorn – wear a fantastic watch, be thin & flat haired with a regal degree of empowerment on display.
As my Aquarians both have Venus in Aquarius they respond brilliantly if i am seemingly off-planet. They like evidence of other-worldly or futuristic behaviour. eg; Sorry I didn’t return your call. I was levitating. Or I was tending my Deadly Nightshade plantation and forgot your name.
Venus in Leo; be loud, big-haired & issue huge theatrical laughs a lot with your head thrown back. Be constantly on the alert for an opportunity to crack open the champers, dress up and/or listen to live music. Emote at length about your fave film directors. Throw some mirrors into the bedroom quick-smart and fuq the Feng Shui. Have teeth with a shine that that you can see from SPACE. A scent that can be detected by anyone with a functioning olofactory nerve who comes within 200 metres.
Are you guys getting the idea????
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haha oh so thats why all the guys in my life have decided to take me for a midnight ocean swim to seduce me…they realised i had venus in pisces!
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me too! and I love being by the ocean.
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How does it work if you are a gay guy? Does the same apply or is there a different way to work it out?
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Look for the position and aspects of Mars in your man’s chart.
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If your man has Mars in Aries, fashion yourself a loin cloth, strut around and beat your chest.
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no, no, no..white / worn original mississippi cotton Haines tee shirt, dark blue jeans, birkenstocks..ray bans , hello !
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In a past life I must have been a gay man with Mars in Aries – because old white tee, dark jeans, birkenstocks and ray bans does it for me everytime!
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It’s funny davidl. I have Mars in Aries and that is exactly what I consider the perfect look!
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mars in aries is the Ultimate Man thing isn’t it? a bit like venus in libra for the ladees…? altho i’d like to substitute the tshirt for a loose faded-out singlet that does nothing to hide mega toned lats and a well tuned bicep or 2 ..oops ws that me drooling?
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Thanks uber virgo
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Thoughts on two different people…
Scorpio Venus with moon in Taurus: seems to appreciate a dark sense of humor, coupled with a lot of genuine compassion. This is a Sagittarius I’ve known for years.
Libra Venus w/moon in Taurus: ??? This is a Scorpio I’d like to know better. I’d guess: same compassion thing, drawn to physical beauty?
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ooooh, i had an awful experience with a Scorpio Venus Sagittarius – a bit possessive and obsessive. Maybe your one is more evolved.
Libra Venus w/moon in Taurus sounds lovely. I have venus in Libra. Drawn to physical beauty big time!
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Gulp. Well, Scorpy R, Le Scorp has the same thing. Venus in Sagg in the 6th house. His venus trines uranus. Am not quite sure what that means, a love of the surprise? His Moon is in Cancer, Gem Rising.
Yes, he’s possessive, takes pains not to show it. There are rules that apply to me that don’t to him. But he consistently insists on “believing” in certain things even if in practice he falls far from it. The Gem Rising does not help.
My Venus is in Leo in the 11th house, opposes my Moon in Aqua, trines Neptune and sextiles Uranus. My Moon is in Aqua, Virgo Rising.
I have fourth house in Sagg so my feelings of home are both here and out there, and I probably have a sense of adventure unexpected of a Kataka, if one were to stereotype. The V Rising tracks details like one would not believe, that is then bolstered by Kataka Intuition. I am the worse person to lie to. It is like the truth has some kind of velcro to me.
So one wonders why all this is… no?
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ahh, hows this then- venus in libra cojunct saturn and pluto, with a moon in virgo! be gorgeously feminine, with a hint of grown up responsibility and some smouldering sexiness, but also be intellectually on the money, and dont for the love of god come across as ‘bland’, ‘moron’, ‘thick’. seems a tad impossible, no? which may explain ALOT about current relationship.
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Be very ‘deeply’ and also ‘neatly’, beautiful, (libra/pluto), yet not too much bling (saturn/libra) which would also turn off the virgo moon, and help with practicalities. That’s a little known seduction tip for moon in virgo – we like it when other people do things without needing to be asked. And for Gods sake don’t talk rough during sex and be really demure. Oh God, sounds like i’ve just described a 1950′s housewife, not a saggical!! Maybe he not right for you?
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Im Venus in Taurus in the 11th, opposing Jupiter , sq Pluto…? Maybe that explains me really going over the top at our last ‘bra’ wife swapping meet.?
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That was you? (Venus in aries in the 8th, trine uranus!)
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you should have identified your self Bloss, oh no! you weren’t the one with the tattoo on your left cheek, Im soooo sorry…
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Anyone know how to woo a Venus in Aquarius in the second house??? He knows i don’t have a deadly nightshade selection but i didn’t return his calls one day because i was writing a story about pumpkins…Am also currently broke which i’m trying to hide lest it turn off the…second house? How does one impress a second house when one is…broke???!
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Fishgirl, I know nothing about male Aquarians (Mystic is THE expert there!!), but doesn’t the 2nd house cover self esteem, values, skills, talents and resources in the wider sense? There is much more to your resources than moolah, so don’t hide or worry about being broke at the moment. Perhaps it is a very good opportunity to demonstrate your resourcefulness when the $ are at a low ebb?
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Anyone know how to woo a Venus in Aquarius?
Don’t!
But do tell him about the pumpkin story. Venus in aqua is all about intellectual curiosity. And freedom. And friendship. Emo is a killer. Admittedly, the two VinAs I have known well were VERY aqua, so my experience may be a bit OTT, but I would guess that being broke would be the last thing he would be worried about. I’m sure others can comment on the 2nd house bit …
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HILARIOUS, I am bisexual with my Venus in Leo & always go for loud performers, anyone who dominates the room, leaders of the pack… Can’t help myself. Yum!
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Hubbo & I both have Venus in Gemini… (his in 7th, mine in 8th house). We love & highly value conversation, ideas and hand made things. I find men’s hands & minds really sexy (or a total turn off!). I usually look at a man’s hands very quickly after checking out eyes, facial expression & shoulders… and yes, I admit it, his arse in a pair of jeans (got to balance all that brain power
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Ok. Straight Virgo man with Venus and Moon in Libra. Any ideas?
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oooooooh, that sounds divine!! Are YOU the straight man? or just wondering how to seduce a Straight Virgo man with Venus and Moon?
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Smell sensational & shut up.
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I am wondering how to do the seducing… I’ve got Sun and Venus in Pisces with Moon in Leo.
Hmm. Ok, I can smell divine and shut up. Ta, Mystic.
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My man has venus in virgo where my sun sign is so all I have to do is….
have freshly laundered sheets, have smoothed my entire body, and be wearing some fabulous but subtle woody oriental french perfume and he is all mine….
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hmmm
any hints on venus in capricorn facing off moon in leo?
he is a sagg with libra rising.
and i have to mention this man is very anti-bling in clothing/jewels. and keep s trying to wean me off the “harmful” addiction of hair shampoo. He went through a year of hair hell to normalise his hair (very full and curley btw) and now just rinses with water.i am largely macrobiotic – have tried cooking pure and delicious elegant yet simple meals. mainly he just likes music which i have a limited knowlege of.
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that sounds almost an exact for my love – he is a sagg with scorp rising, moon in leo, venus in capricorn – it is quite a mix
the whole capricorn venus thing, he loves serious intensity, but also grounded and stable and I am a taurus with a big saturn signature in my chart (with moon in saggi) so it works!
For me venus in capricorn needs a grown up woman on some level, a good listener but that has to be balanced by that whole leo/saggi thing which is playful and idealistic. Tell him wise and noble things from your heart (leo moons are all heart) but then drink lots of wine and rant and rave about ideals/grand theories (saggi/leo can be quite hedonistic combo, my saggi certainly is)
Oh and the face off between the moon and venus can maybe make your saggi a bit selfish/self obsessed? And sometimes moon in leo need a bit of reassuring and ego stroking
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giggle! Edwina!
well you certainly have described him there! we do love ranting at each other and going on pub expeditions just by ourselves.it is frustrating when he is surrounded by millions of people all the time though, very gregarious. and yes a little self centred. how to without booze? or when he gets in just watching teli depressed moods.
i have taurus rising , my venus is in pisces and moon in cancer – i like adventurous jaunts (like midnight strolls) and lots of nattering, also a big softie. he he he.
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How to woo without booze…..not sure, my saggi and i have been together for 12 years! (since i was 19) so it is not all about hedonism – but he loves fun and high energy stuff – we have heaps of fun travelling together – but also have great connection when we go walking (both big and little walks).
But he has a libra rising he must be attracted to you as an artist, perhaps has some artistic leanings? maybe you could do a stone carving class or life drawing or something together?
And the whole gregarious super star thing….. the one thing that a taurus or taurus rising must never do with a saggi is to fetter them in any way (that is the closest thing to a rule in our marriage) freedom is key to the saggi – that also goes for bad moods – strictly to be left alone. Good luck with him! Midnight strolls sound like a lovely idea
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How does one seduce a gemini man with sagg moon and venus in taurus?
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Gourmet picnic post hike
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and bring a head full of interesting conversation.
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lovely
i reckon a really lavish dinner (rich and sophisticated) in a slightly odd location. sneak up to top floor of a multistory carpark with amazing views? fire escapes, boats, mountain peak?
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Butch the ex Saggo has Venus in Scorpio, was extremely sexual (but not often enough
for me) & kinky as, but cheap/tight with the bucks. That was not attractive to my Capricorn
Venus that wants CEO type men with $’s, generous with gifts & ambitious.
Saw Daryl Braithwaite, Capricorn, last week in Adders, hadn’t seen him for 20 years
& he still has me swooning, his voice strikes a cord in my heart.
Ended the gig with ‘Horses’. His voice better than ever…effortless.
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Robot Scorps……you had a Sagg/Venus Scorp & said ‘never again’!
David, what’s a ‘bra’ wife swapping thing?
Found a pair of avaitor raybans at op shop last week, with case for $15!!!!
So glad the salvo’s staff had no idea of the value, they look to be about 30 years
old in immaculate condition.
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Nice one Pegs! $15!! Cool.
Yes, i did say never again. My Sagg/Venus Scorp said he wasn’t sexual at all – Bullshit! Said we could do everything but “that”. He had major isssss-ewes!. Homophobic too. Weirdo!
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it was a joke Peg..
The aviators sound like a bargain. I still wear my 30 year old ones I bought in Israel. In the late seventies, Rayban was army issue, so you could buy them real cheap in army disposal stores over there.-
davidl you have just hit a new level in my cool-dar
israeli army issue…1970′s…still wearing….molto authentico!
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if a blokes venus is on your midheaven do you just relax and know that they loved you before they even met you? The true you that even you may not know? Yeah flakey theory but my MC is in pisces ya know, I can’t help it.
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hey you guys, my bubble had deflated a tad. I thought that as the new taurean has venus in aries and a gem moon and it’s 13 yrs since his dramas of bad marriage split and big family business bust-up, he’d have processed all, he’s a sodding psych, but the more time we have together the more he hauls it out. He’s got more baggage then a P&O cruise liner. We’ll have had a great time then he starts making comparisons to bad times. It works on my sag moon/merc/rising like a wet blanket. His venus is opposed by libran saturn+neptune and square cancerean uranus but trine pluto so I thought the pluto trine would make for a strong recovery from venus related crap. Any feed back will be so appreciated.
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why is it that most guys never grow up ?
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you’ve nailed it David. I did tell him that his inner child has turned into a rather ugly adolescent with it’s thumb in it’s mouth shouting “I deserve better”
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oh, cc, i soo know this kind of fella. and their sulky inner/outer adolescent inadvertently puts you in the role of their mother, which is never a sexy/healthy dynamic. i find that though when you do they tough love thing, if they are already in that head/heart space, they react like a rebellious teen -’you cant tell me what to do!’ (door slam). sigh.
its best to try to detach as much as possible, stay true to your own joy and leave them to it. i have had to learn this lesson the (very) hard way. and david, yep, its about ego completely, in that it doesnt seem healthily developed and so have massive chip on shoulder about ‘deserving’/'fairness of life’ etc. they havent figured out yet some things arent fair, and that you do need to figure out a way to be ok with that.
good luck to you cc, and be strong in keeping your home one of peace, happiness and light. life is short and wasting time listening to someone rehashing and rehashing old angst isnt an effective use of it. i hope for your (and his) sake he can make peace with the past soon, and enjoy the beautiful gift he has in front of him right now in the present- you!
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oh noooooooo CC, sorry to hear that. It’s the gem moon i reckon – air signs don’t process emotions that well. I’m at work, it’s the first thing that popped into my head. Praps someone else has better feedback
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thanks scorpy r, I haven’t had much experience with gem moon peeps except for my son and his attitude to emo upheaval has always been “get a grip” then beat someone up on the rugby field
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I had the same MO as a youth Chesh..im gem moon
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much healthier than playing the burning martyr card david…..I’m wondering what role his mother played here…You seem to have had a wonderful relationship with your’s and my taurean son and I have a great understanding. The new taurean and my son have sun, moon, merc and venus in the same signs so I expected them to be more alike
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You wanted a relationship with your son?
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i don’t mean that rudely either it’s just what it sounded like you were saying up there…
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are there projections at work?
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I’m laughing nnb, I already have a good relationship with my son and didn’t find the planetry stuff till I started looking for answers. I never immediately check astro preferring to go with instinct and physical impact
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he would not take no for an answer in the beginning if I remember your scenario rcorrectly – hazy crazy days of summer an all that – it was interesting you used possessive words when describing your initial interactions. Interesting because there was a change to the pattern of your language – when you read someone’s words often you learn about them and their vernacular. It was as if you were possessed. which is neither good or bad just different. xxx I remember thinking oh god a taurean so heavy footed deep and heavy you are an earth sign tho so maybe it harmonises with you in a different way than for an air sign. It’s funny the only relationship I’ve ever had with a taurean – I give them a swerve on anything less than arms length as a rule now – the gift I remember giving him for his birthday was a stuffed toy with a bandage on its arm and a miniature safety pin etc. The sick teddy.
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thanks nnb, you’ve given me something to think about. He can be possessive/protective then switches to distant/thoughtful. I’m used to that with all my earth sign fam members. I walk lightly in my world and no one can take me over. The very thought of giving him a teddy bear cracked me up. He’s the blokey sort. I gave him an early birthday present before he went back bush. I found the softest, cuddlyest navy (blokey colour) shave coat and his first remark, with a silly grin, was that it felt so warm and soft. I know it was a winner
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Its like a lot of guys never deal with their ego. To me its healthy to have it crushed occasionally and just to get over myself. Unfortunately some hold on to that ego, that image of themselves, and can’t move on to the next version upgrade. He needs a rebirth of some type to burn ego, destroy it..Im sure you can do that, but its a pain isn’t it to think that thats what it might be about instead of a true partnership of like minds and hearts. Keep teaching Chesh.
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correct again David. I talked him through the whole rebirth process, laying down the weight of the past and marching into the future light as air. Also how it’s ego that screams “I deserve better” and that we all deserve better than the rotten stuff. It’s only through true humility that we can just say “shit happens” and move on to the next chapter with faith and optimism. I sort of laid in on the line by saying that I’ve got less years ahead of me than behind and have no intention of bogging what’s left. My home and life has serenity and peace and is a haven for friends and animals and that’s how it has to remain.
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Darling chesh, to moi it sounds like a bit of Toro Obstinancy, horns locking et al kind of thing combined with feeling that YOU can be his rock hence he can let it all hang out vs his usual MO of sitting in a chair opposite someone worse off and looking like he’s got it together?
In a previous life, I went through an all Toro Phase, best friends, lovers, school mates, etc., you know in the same way that I am magnetizing Scorpos now for some reason. But my point is Toros are generally earthy, they like to groove at the same speed, BUT when they feel they can TRUST you absolutely, out comes the inner child amidst a tantrum.
So I’m gonna go with the more unusual stance of you just ignoring him? After all, in my experience, I sometimes suspected that my Kataka sympathies were being played to with one little eye sneaking a peek at my reaction. But when they get its time to MOVE ON because they feel secure in your understanding SANS indulgence, they sort of amble forth. Notice I didn’t say walk/run.
This may also be his way of unconsciously testing the parameters of your relationship. Believe me, as someone who lives adrift a Plutonian tunnel with a pretty mighty suctioning force i.e. Le Scorp, for me it is like cue scene re-enactment of Persephone’s abduction when he decides to away with my sunnier outlook via his Dark Lord moods.
I did have a Toro best friend who suddenly acquired a free-falling anxiety syndrome that transformed her from someone who was rarely bothered about anything to somebody I had to hold in my arms and rock with. The bottomline is you can’t fix it/him. And perhaps in a way he also has the notion that as he administers care for a profession this is his opportunity to receive it.
Except of course, the boundaries are a bit muddier. I’m also not sure if this is age related as I have noticed that some men go through an I deserve better phase during mid life. Its a way of looking back thinking “I’ve played by the rules and this is what I get???” kind of thing, which I also partially blame on the expectations we are groomed to have when it was used as an incentive to conform.
Only he can reconcile himself, and as for you, I think you need to indulge aspects of your saggability and pull your sunny side up. You’re a woman first before you can be anyone’s rock and shoulder.
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fallen angel – where to start, your words are so wise and resonate with me. I manifested Scorps in my first 36 years of my life – all my besties along the way were scorps and I married one- who incidentally seems to be aptly described by your view on the male midlife crisis of ” i deserve better etc…”. What’s this all about? the manifestation of certain types/signs – lessons to be learned perhaps. I can’t see what I saw in him after spending 17 years in the neptunian fog with him. I have Neptune in Scorp in the 9th square my 6th house Leo sun. My father was an functioning alcoholic but an unavailable Pisces sun/Scorp moon father (that explains my Sat in Pisces conj Asc). Post 36 years I became attuned to Aries and Saggos as girlfriends (too wounded and mid property settlement to think about a new man right now). These gals have been soo great for me… no undertow into Hades. Also blesseded children – Aqua sun/Scorp asc/Toro moon daughter and Leo sun/Virgo asc/Aries moon son – must have done something right.
I’ve decided that when I recover fully from marriage fallout, with Uranus/Merc/Pluto in Virgo in 7th, I’ll never do the conventional marriage thing – live apart and have fun via my 5th house moon/mars in Kataka.
Oh, ex’s venus in scorp conj neptune in scorp on his IC. My venus in Gem conj North Node in 4th but Mars in Kataka. His Mars in Libra conj Pluto/Uranus in Libra square my moon/mars in Kataka. Plus most of his chart is in 2nd and 3rd house except for Saturn in 10th. Egocentric?!! I think so.
fa – so happy you’re back here adding your blessings. xx
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Gorgeous FA, you are wise and on the money with your Toro insights. Much of what you mentioned about deep trust, security and S.L.O.W.N.E.S.S. is spot on for many of the Taurus people I know, including my beloved Toro Hubbo. They even walk slowly!!! We think Toros are slow but to them its just their normal speed, right?
But don’t confuse slowness with not listening or taking it all in. I have found that a small piece of conversation from 6 months ago can resurface and you realise its been in the Toro psyche being processed for all that time!
CC maybe your pace of processing bad times and “getting on with it” is very different to your Toro’s? Its a hard thing about grief; we all do it differently. Events can have different depths of effect on people. Maybe he is feeling safe with you. Maybe he is a bit stuck on “rewind-replay”. Whatever it is for him, it sounds like YOU have firm & clear goals about the peace & tranquility in your life/home, so maybe just limiting the Toro’s access is a simple solution? Hooray for Boundaries! Bulls do understand fences, time out & VERY simple messages.
The “I deserve better” cry can lead to growing up. It is a kind of observation or an admission but it needs to be followed up with some genuine review of personal goals/expectations/values and then some action – some times LOTS of action! Deserve is a funny word. I don’t really like it. To me it sounds like “I SHOULD have x y z”. Substituting ‘could’ for ‘should’ is liberating and brings the responsibility back to where it belongs – to the individual.
FF, sounds like you are amidst one of those hard times in life that can either make you or break you. It won’t break you! A man hunt is likely not what you need right now. I’m guessing you need some solo time and learn afresh the pleasures of just being you. Please do allow yourself to go slowly and count your blessings. I find that appreciation – really slow in-the-moment appreciation of even the smallest things – is a wonderful perspective giver, even in the most awful situations. If you like books, ‘Intimacy & Solitude’ by Stephanie Dowrick is very helpful for untangling your issues from those of another. You’ll be all right x
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Gee, FF & Nat thanks! But you know, insights very hard won thru mining the depths. Er, literally it seems.
Fluid, I will say this. Post marriage fall out, one really is confronted with one’s woundedness, you know like you said, the bafflement of wot you saw in him after all this time..really at the end of that thought is the question, why didn’t I see it sooner/fix it better/etc. i.e. anything that examines your end of it. But we all know that we make decisions based on the people we used to be, with our limitations, our flaws and desires of the time. No one is exempt from that because we’re dealt the hand we’re dealt with and we did our best presumably or tried to.
What makes it really interesting is that at the same time you realize how deep those cuts/bruises/abrasions/emotional abyss’(!) are, you have to somehow simultaneously use the very energy that is helping your life fall away from its old structures to build the new one. It is not at all what we typically envision when we physically build/plan something i.e. that the process is linear. In fact, I have more often found that it is a dynamic spiral.. so I guess what I’m saying is at many points one thinks one has reached a definite conclusion only to realize after a process or year or few later that the conclusion has changed.
So I absolutely understand your feelings on not doing the conventional thing anymore, but I would just like to say that as time goes on, you will find that part of your recovery is entry into a relationship that will have a life and spirit of its own, that will hit those buttons again. You don’t need to worry about that right now by any means. Your only task if anything is to breathe and be open.
And try remaining open. It’s hard because you’re still amidst the dust storm of your marriage’s death, that’s understandable. But your ex’s attitude of “I deserve better, etc.” (and Nat I feel the same way about that incidentally) is really hinged on the belief that if I do X then Y should automatically happen. It’s a closed circuit. We all know life’s not like that and that one of the most heartbreaking things one can hardly put into words is how to find the strength to live with painful memories, memories so strong and sharp they feel as if you were in a time machine and you are back in the middle of a forlorn street being shot at daylight sort of thing.
And for men more than women I think, the pressure of failure, of how it affects their identity is so immense because many (not all) live in a black and white universe. They are in essence, almost mute and wordless compared to us. Maybe this is the point where he needs to meet himself and not his ego. I know for certain that one of the things divorce makes us give up is using our partner/spouse as a convenient excuse for not BEING & BECOMING.
You’ve done many right and good things, you can trust that as you create each step, it will matter less and less that lessons remain to be learned and more so that you will be greeting them fierce with your fullness. Meow and bravo sister.
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Hi CC. Welcome back! I was so happy for you when you found your Taurus – he sounded so good. Maybe he still is? Maybe he needs to tell you about his past life – it is important after all. Revealing some of his past could be a sign of his trust in you? I am looking for positives here.
Have you said anything to him that really clearly lets him know how you feel about this behaviour eg. that whilst you appreciate the comparisons of the good times now to bad (yet important) times past, that it can take away from the fun that you are having with him when he does it too often?
None of us can be perfect and perhaps there are some things about you that he might be finding just a teensy bit challenging too? Just a thought – don’t knock my block off!! It would be a shame if a potentially great friendship didn’t make it over the first hurdle.
* Gemini Moon might be jollied up with some humour or some new ideas…
* Venus in Aries must surely appreciate honesty and openess as well as ‘action’…
* My experience of lovely Taurus bodies is that yes they love food, comforts and reliability but often have deep issues of self-worth.
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thanks nat, we’ve moved well past all the getting to know you stuff and I’ve been told his past crap again and again and again………I could write the story of his life in soapy formula. He loves being in my space and says I spoil him and maybe that’s the prob. Bit of tough love required?
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Well, if you’ve already done all that can be done, its Boundary Time!
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Angel – thankyou for your words above – I have printed them to keep close by for when I’m falling into the emo abyss – to read for comfort to remind me of the profound truth that I “know” but you have expressed into words in a way I couldn’t. I esp love the “divorce makes us give up…. partner as a convenient excuse for not BEING & BECOMING”. For me that’s a difficult truth about me that I am facing now. Your gift brings tears – good tears, thankyou! xx
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You’re so welcome FF, you have my support from the depths of Hades! Sometimes I think we just need others as mirrors to reflect our light back to us in our darkest nights.
Look forward to loving and falling in love again, and to the fact that when that time comes, your clarity about yourself will ring clear as a bell to someone who resonates. Even if they are imperfect.
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Nat, meant to reply to you earlier. Thanks re tips on being in the moment. I am actually working on that and my fav Sagg sun/Leo moon GF is so good at bringing me back to that time and again – I’m reading again – “The Power of Now” – something in me is reluctant to revisit it but know I have to as profound message for me that I probably missed/ignored the first time. Steph Dowrick books are good too tho haven’t read “Intimacy & Solitude”. Will get to it tho, thanks. And as for Toro slowness, have one s toro sis with toro hb – gorgeous people, very close, they both tho have loads of aries tho and are so not slow – they can’t fathom my slowness to get over end of marriage. BUT – they do the BEST entertaining, fab food, wine, house – you just can’t leave, I love them so much. I do have Jup in toro, in 3rd – siblings – astro is good.
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Tell him you know a good therapist OR start charging him.
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hahaha Uby…from everything I’ve been told he really is a good therapist but I think it’s sort of like a mechanic and his unroadworthy car..
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cheshire you just described my ex – toro sun/asc with venus in aries. Massive baggage. Insecurities. Poor little me syndrome. I’ve got saggo moon too and it just made me thoroughly irritated and extremely impatient. Great in bed though … or perhaps that’s the Leo Mars …
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so if the guy I like has venus and moon in libra and I’m an Aries, do I have to act like the complete opposite of myself? Surely that’s not a good sign!
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I’d say there should be magnetic attraction to your ‘normal’ self and style..I must admit as an aries the attraction to libra and vice versa has led to mixed results.
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air and fire – one needs the other & one is consumed by the other
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My experience with a Libra was mixed too.
Apparently, this one guy would see me walking on a property where I worked with one particular black skirt slit up the side. Was a fantasy I guess and later we went on a date after his friend said “he’s stable”, etc.
Don’t know why intuition woke me up one night, but drove by his place and the police were looking in cars with flashlights. He came clean that he did conterfiet money and showed me a twenty in my kitchen.
Never went on a date with him again…
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really? you had intuition and drove past someone’s house? were you passing or you actually got up from sleeping and went out and drove past on purpose? Wonder where his neptune was ?
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or maybe yours more to the point…?
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O that was me more to the point
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Drove by on purpose at about 2:30-3:00 a.m. Usually woke up about 4:30 anyhow because I liked to be at the gym by 5-5:30. That morning it was earlier for some reason.
Never the less, it really was a blessing because I’d just gotten a sum of money and the last thing I needed was getting in trouble with some idiot who counterfieted dough because he needed to pay his child support…
The universe has always saved my arse…It really was quite uncanny.
Next day, I went by the guy’s work and took him outside. Told him the cops are looking around on him. He said thanks. Later he was non too pleased that I’d horned in on his life but, I told him, “I have a right to protect myself” but had not told him that for some reason my intuition just felt something was up…
That was the end of that and him.
My Neptune is in 5th trine Pisces Mc and sextile Pluto.
Pluto on 3rd house side of IC bi-quintile Moon in 8th and trine Saturn in 7th.
Neptune opp. Taurus Venus.
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do neptune and venus combine to make trickery in love?
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they can nnb also delusion but sometimes more magical mystery tour vibe
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aah magickal mystery tour sounds ideal – just check to make sure they don’t have a orinting press.
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My partner has Leo Sun & Venus – both in the 6th house. And Virgo Moon. I believe the fact that I’m a hard-working show-off plays well with him
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venus in aquarius, that’s me and I would say some kind of journey of the mind, like daydreaming together? Although I am a girl!
Anyone for more on venus in pisces?
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Thanks anon – yes! We do talk/text a lot together. But Venus in Pisces was my last love and he swooned whenever he caught me reading poetry.
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heh heh “treat em mean keep em keen”* dished out appropriately i say – works every time!
Go the tough love Cheshire Cap – and you ‘ll know what that is.
Note that the “mean” treatment will differ with each sign.
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tigerc, I did tell him that life compost should grow new plants not just lie there and stink…….just that qualify as tough to a taurean?
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oops….should be does that qualify?
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R you saying this clown IS an actual therapist? I reckon fix the feng shui & see wot happens. Also isn’t it a rule that therapists also get their own counselling?
I think he is just being a selfish prick never mind his venus stuff…I mean THIRTEEN years ago, my god.
Why don’t you say you are taking a break from him & if he asks why say because you’re sick of hearing him grumble all the time, that it drains you. Don’t go on about life being short – life extension gets better all the time. You don’t have to justify this. Unless he is hugely hot and the best root you have ever had, what the fuq is him hanging around grizzling all day doing for you?-
oh yeah ! myst, your channelling mars in aries and my god its a turn on..
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Mystic, you’re wonderful! Yep, he’s a therapist and he’s had counselling but they know all the tricks. He doesn’t grizzle all day, just when I least expect it, usually after we’ve had a great time he turns on a tirade and puts a downer on it. My prob was my understanding the astro stuff and Blossom has shone some light on that.
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cc – somewhat more demonstrative methinks- as in leaving him to fester overnight in the garden with the worms for company (compost non ?)
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CC as a fellow toro “with issues” my guess is tell him VERY straight, give him time to process, indulge him occasionally (but only occasionally), and keep him distracted and happy. He obviously trusts you, but we are not renowned for our speed
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thanks blossom but where is your venus….his is in aries and I sort of thought that could speed things up a tad
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Aries here too. Makes me impulsive, lacking consistency. Full on then pull back. Someone mentioned earlier about toro self worth issues. I think that has somethig to do with it. Confident professional, confident full on flirt, then whoops, self worth plummets and it’s back to all the old emo crap. Any of that familiar?
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Thank you sooooo much Blossom. That’s so him. The consummate professional, socially adept then whammo. I guess reassurance when required is the way to deal with it but no indulgence. I so want to help him through it but won’t let it spoil my tranquility. I guess half my problem is that I’ve dealt with so much more and fought my way back from the black place so I get impatient.
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Look… you knwo the term ‘treat em mean, keep them keen’… works really well with the ol’ bulls.
More so with the men.
it could be liking the challenge… it could be that we don’t understand why everyone else loves us and you don’t.
Am not a guy, but I do know we Toros do like to be needed… but often take things for granted… till its gone and we huff and puff and stamp our feet and charge around breaking things.
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Reassurance – that’s the key word. The self worth issues are unlikely to be completely solved, so I reckon regular reassurance should preempt the navel gazing most of the time. I can’t tell you how much it means that he trusts you with this shit!
And I think FA has a point about his need to be taken care of. Just remind him that professional support should be just that – professional.
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oh dear, me toro sun and venus in aries, venus 11 house, these descriptions (esp blossoms) are getting toooooo close to home, i really don’t want to recognise myself here, wail wail! whoooops!
but worse, the HMBOTS is Leo sun, venus in Leo and 12 house so clandestine affairs! help, what should i do with him??
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Ego mnassage fest!
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ur a smart chick, bloss, yes i know massive admiration and absolutely no criticism does work!
the taurean does have to suspend incredulity that it works so well though, wouldn’t for me LOL, i’d see though that in a trice!
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The Aquarian, who has still not returned from his journey of self discovery, has leo moon. Our best moments are mutual ego massage! Yeah, can see through it, but is nice all the same
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‘….has still not returned from his journey of self discovery’ !!!
that’s just got to be the most gorgeous gentle, poking fun type put down i’ve ever heard!
sweet, giggle giggle!
and yes, ur right, mutual ego massage lovely, just never comes my way, or not from the HMBOTS, at any rate!
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You know best cc – but keep it up your sleeve for next time he unleashes those demons on you
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Dear Cheesh, right, you know what to do.
Myst isn’t in a good mood with men at mo, but it IS very true & not urban
myth that psychiatrists are the most fuck-ed up peeps. They need self analysist
& down loading constantly. Caps can’t be used but he is taking your fantastic advice
and support when it’s not your job.
What one should not do in a new relationship is go on about an ex. That’s a bighuge no no.
Relationship guidelines abound that are clear about what’s just not on.
Butch was seriously damaged from wife leaving him & taking 8 year old girl. THAT was
13 years ago. So there you are. Spent 3 years feeling all was not right & it weren’t.
Thought same as you, no time for BS. Get your act together then call me thing.Scorps (as we are perusing Venus & btw Myst that is a superb write up above) Butch would not
do ‘union’ if that’s what you mean, absolutely everything else cept. I figured it was from years
of self-pleasuring ok wanking so wasn’t interested or couldn’t do it ‘the old fashion way’.
Fear of going inside a woman, may cause emotional attachment, might be too much like ‘the married way’.
Sure wasn’t going to spend time talking about his issues & past tho’, he was big enough to figure himself.
Wonder where the Real Men are..(said joe jackson?)
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Peg, when venus Scorp Sagg (VSS) told me he wasn’t a very sexual person i said “but surely you answer the bone-a-phone??!!” Nope. He didn’t even do that!!
We actually attempted “union” but he jumped off after a few minutes, got dressed and disappeared… as some Saggos do hehe.Whateva i thought. He was just a fling i didn’t care to find out what his issues were.
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Pegasus, is there a tantric take on why he wouldn’t go through with union? It sounds as though he resists the integration, resists being whole (apart from the whole intimacy deal). How torturous.
Remember being with a really attractive guy (soz can’t remember any astro) who used to quit at the point I was most excited, every time. So I had to quit him. I think HE was hung up on his ex too. I met her and she looked like me. It was weird.
Where is your mars, pegs?
BTW Myst, am loving this post. Sooo interesting, and I love the idea of channelling a man’s venus.
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Urr, excuse moi Peg, but that is major generalisation re psychiatrists. Just like every profession there are huge variations in mental health and professional effectiveness. I find your view narrow and/or offensive.
But I love the old Joe Jackson – so brings back the memories of driving to the coast every weekend as a “surfie chick” with my surfer clan, sadly not a surfer, but the camping, romancing was greeaat. Puberty Blues so nailed the times then.
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Pretty Pegasus, gasp.. are you saying what I think you’re saying? That Butch would not erm..get biblical to put it delicately. Say it wasn’t so.
How so sadly frustrating, it is so hard not to do that with someone you love. Honestly.
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I am virgo girl with venus in leo, mars in scorpio & my two possibilities of late:
1. Virgo man with Venus in Leo
Eek. Bit of a mirror… He’s impossible for me to read, which is what ex-boyfriends have told me I am like? Three dates and no kiss. Its all very mr.darcy…2 Libran man with Venus in Libra and Moon in Gemini
Impossible charming, very famous & I just keep being charming and witty back and saying yes-no-yes-no… seems to be working but somehow i think a tricky prospect for me.-
zlatni i would go with No.1. I had a wonderful relationship with a Virgo/venus in Leo. He hadn’t been intimate with anyone for 2 years before he met me. He was waiting for someone special. I thought it was really sweet.
Perhaps your Virgo is still sussing you out.Hmmm, too much air in the 2nd one. Might drive you crazy after a while unless you have some planets in air.
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I totally second your stance Scorpdelicious! Goodness, I got teary eyed reading about your sweet Virgo saving himself for YOU. And oh, the air thing…can turn into a gale force wind when it gets bad.
Oh and yep, I have Venus in Leo too, so adoration, devotion, oh fek it I’ll just say it, worship even, I do love it. Only if its true blue though.
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well naturally only if it’s true blue – Leos where their hearts on their sleeves don’t they?
hehe… never thought of the gale force wind factor of air. But you are so right. Then there’s the wind chill factor too!! *shudder* don’t mind grey skies or rain but wind irritates me.
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Oh hon, does me too! Specially when that wind goes completely mundane and turns into a fart!
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so bachelor number 1 did come over, was all great then suddenly had to go when his parents called with a problem. he was all flustered and embarrassed but really…. im not sure how much more patience i have :/
air may be gale force wind but at least its a force!!!
i’ll let you know if it ever progresses beyond kisses on cheek and promises for tomorrow..
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Oh dear. But it is a first date no? Is there a round 2 ziatni?
I think we need to wait & see on this one, better that #1 was embarassed and reasonably apologetic than off hand, yes?
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this was a third date….yes definitely better to be apologetic but it was all just a bit strange.
i’m letting this one go. the whole thing was just making me feel drained after i saw him, which is of course the best indicator that this is not something life enriching…
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yeah im more interested in number 1, that story you shared is lovely- thanks.
it is very sweet. venus in leo i guess wants something special? did you experience much leonine traits from him?haha i think you are right, he is just sussing me out…when did i get so impatient?
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leonine traits – he LOVED being praised. Lots of ego pampering. I once told him how proud i was of him and he asked me to repeat what i said so he could hear it again.
He also loved me being socially confident and outgoing (i have moon in Sag). We were in a cafe once and i saw someone i hadn’t seen in years so i walked over and said hello. As we walked off he said “i love how you do that – just go up to people” They’re the two things that stand out at the moment.-
Interesting…i think with my venus in leo i too love being praised (blush)
seriously saggigal, im not one to be demure either but i think the softly softly approach is actually beginning to work with me. he’s also younger than me – early 20s… so the whole thing is going from being strange and kind of annoying to endearing and sweet.
but…as i said, spring hormones are around! lets see how long the softly softly approach will last
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let us know how you go!
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will do…he’s coming to my house tomorrow night for dinner so….we shall see!
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Thanks for all your comments. It’s sorted my headspace. Blessings all.
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Sorry FF for the old urban myth, took the sword out too fast in Cheeshes defence, i guess ,as in ‘How dare he”!
Angel, in 3 years it was a tongue that was heaven on a stick, the most knowing hands & imagination,
but my love, no nookie in the Biblical sense. A womam became pregnant to him 8 years ago & he resents
paying the 17% of wage to her but didn’t resent ‘making a life’. Don’t think she allows him to see the girl
that’s he’s paying for. They separated when the woman was pregnant. I asked why & he said ‘the energy ran out’. HUH? Issues? And here he was hooked up with someone who could have been his ‘healer’ & banished the past. THAT was also pure frustration.
It was what kept me hangin’ in for sooo long. Controlling & manipulative in retrospect not to mention
cruel.
Of course i still think of him but he made no room for me. You gotta move over a bit to allow someone in
& he wouldn’t.Remember i said ‘power WITH, not power OVER’ when men & women come together.Uber: rejection of the feminine, fear of being ‘engulfed’, fear of losing emotional control, just straight fear
will do as it’s the opposite to trust (which resides in the heart). All head & no heart….so to speak:)
That’s why men hanging onto the past when there is deliciousness right in front of them annoys my
Virgoan Mars (same as Scorpy Robot).
My unexpected new Sagg Man is an anti-dote. Masculine but unafraid of the feminine, loves kissing & has been in the one relationship for 24 years.
It seem the more relationships a man goes through, the less chance he has of true love because of disposability thinking.
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Thanks Pegs, I guessed your psych comment was knee-jerk support. You’re a sweetie.
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Y’ know Pegasus, I am resonating with your Theorem on Disposability Thinking.. it’s a disease I think, an equal opportunity destroyer actually.
I also had a GF who was involved with someone who refused union but did most everything else, and I find it incredibly cruel because it’s the most natural thing to want to do with someone you bond with. Sometimes people cannot see beyond the own games they play to appreciate the truth and beauty in front of them.
Am so happy you’re anti-doted up leaving your wings dewy and shining…
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yes i agree with the disposability thinking. one might learn to look for the faults rather than take the time to look for the pleasures/blessings. we have to give things time, sometimes
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My mum’s advice years ago was not to take on a cripple unless you’re qualified to nurse one and she didn’t mean a physical cripple
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Hi! Great article! My man has venus in Cancer in the 12th house while I am a Cancer sun and have Venus in Gemini. Any thoughts?
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Hi,
Would love to hear more on Venus in Capricorn!The one I have in mind is a Sag with Moon in Pisces.
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Fab article! It might explain a lot.
Does it apply the same to straight women? i.e. do you go for guys like your venus? or is it your mars you should be looking at?
I seem to go for all types of guys and then wonder why it goes wrong, ha.
Longterm Ex is a Pisces, venus in Pisces (moon virgo, mars aries) … and I’m not really like a Pisces at all. (scorpio with scorpio moon, taurus rising, mercury & venus both in sagittarius, mars in pisces – hmm, does this explain my attraction to him, or am I misunderstanding how this works?) So I never really behaved like a pisces venus-wise.
We really get on better now than we do when we were living together, now that we are friends … with benefits (lol). Even though he’s got another girlfriend (who knows). I don’t make excuses for a bohemian lifestyle. but, maybe I’m not letting go? anyway, i’m a scorpio, I don’t really *do* “letting go”.
The guy I’m interested in at college is a Cancer (seem to attract a lot of them lately, even though I’m not at all maternal – frankly I could do with some “mothering” myself!). Moon in aquarius, venus in Leo, mars in Libra.
I’m not seriously pursuing – he’s not in my classes so I don’t often mange to “accidentally” meet him. But I did manage to find out his birthdate… heh. So if he’s venus in Leo – oh, the effort! Can’t I just lurk in a corner and smoulder magnetically as usual?
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I’m a female Cancerian with a Moon in Leo, Mars in Cancer, and Venus in Gemini and I’m having trouble communicating and understanding a Virgo man. His Moon is Leo, Mars in Virgo, and his Venus is in Leo. Any advice on how to communicate with him or woo him?
Thanks.
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Sonia, if he’s Virgo/Leo moon do tasteful glam and flatter him without making the flattery obvious. I’ve never met a Virgo who doesn’t like reading and gathering information so talk books and current affairs
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Thank you chershire cap, but how do I flatter him if he has a Saturn in Scorpio? One moment he’ll be really sweet, caring, and insightful and the next moment he tells me to “live my life”, “leave me alone”, “i feel uncomfortable with you”, “im scared of you”, “i dont trust you”, and makes up excuses not to visit me. Lately, he’s been ignoring me, and I don’t seem to understand why he’s acting that way. I’ve always been honest him and I let him know my feelings when he hurts me but he doesn’t seem to taking me seriously. I’ve known him for years but he always gives me mixed messages. Sad thing is as a Cancerian, I get hurt easily and with a Moon in Leo, I find it hard to forget someone who has caused me unnecessary stress and pain. I haven’t communicated with him properly, I’ve always resorted to e-mail when I want to talk about my feelings. He never responds. I’ve also tried phoning him but he changes the topic when I try to talk about my feelings. Therefore, I draw back into my shell and become fearful of talking about my feelings to him. Sometimes, I avoid him entirely but it hurts me a lot when I avoid him.
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By the way, I have Saturn in Sagittarius.
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Ok guys, I’m a little new at all this stuff and kind of confused. The guy I’m interested in is a Virgo with Venus in Libra, I THINK. (His birthday is August 23, 1989, if someone could confirm this that would be great:D) So what does that mean he likes?? And I am a Libra so is that a good sign or totally unrelated?? Some help here please!
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That is good u a Libra.
Venus in Libra is a Beauty Lover. Ye olde classic beauty – no gimmicks and symmetrical…well groomed, smells nice. Ladylike. Think Gwyneth or Catherine Deneuve. No public displays of affection. Diffident.
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