I bitched it up re Bad Guru syndrome someplace in the Comments recently. My personal Grudge Flashpoint is pass-agg, controlling New Agie guys in muslin pants who sigh a lot in sort of faux empathy & talk a good game about their stupendous tantric-kundalini rooting skills BUT they resort REAL fast to ye olde “you must be frigid” drivel upon rejection.
There are variations of this gent but they all like to use the Occult/psychology etc to manipulate people (usually young girls or naive women) into the sack. I had one Bad Guru tell me I was fuqing with my karma by not “honouring the connection” between us. Another did my Tarot and managed to mis-read the whole thing to say it was about our growing sexual attraction. Vile.
Yes, yes i know women do this sort of thing too. But they are less likely to be sexual predators and more into psychic vamping i.m.o.
I get e-mails ALL the time from peeps saying “HELP” as some fairground psychic took a quick peek at an ephemeris and pronounced said person to be destined to be forever poor or not to have a loving relationship due to karmic shit etc etc. So I have to sit there and say i don’t even know what there is IN this chart to indicate it. I mean, you could technically argue that Saturn someplace is bound to be problematic until you sort it but the truth is that once sorted, your Saturn area becomes your shining pride & joy.
I am not saying i am the greatest astrologer in the world but i think there is something so vile with Bad Guru Syndrome; people are taking these amazing & magical tools but using them to manipulate or control someone. Beware the Control Freak healer/guru whatevs. And, do dish, on any of your own Bad Guru Syndrome experiences, please. Ages ago i postulated that an awesome amount of famous Bad Gurus are/were Taurean men but i have not the inclination to trawl through them checking birth-dates again right now. It would send my Dark Moon PMT situation to Defcon 5.
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oh mystic i know EXACTLY the men you speak of. they make my skin crawl and i have encountere a fair few of them around so called spiritual pursuits. my conclusion i finally came to was that ego is ego no matter what you dress it up as, and anyone using anything to manipulate others is not spiritual no matter what they be preaching. to this day any man with a pony tail gives me the creeps.
that said, my yuckiest bad guru experience was with a woman, and shouldve trusted my gut instincts to get away from her as soon as i met her, but stuck around (paid my money…weep, weep) to have someone i would never even want to emulate or admire tell me all these ‘truthful’ things about me that were so incredibly geared towards making me feel vulnerable to her. ugh icky. it actually really puts me off any thing new agey etc anymore, even though my own personal beliefs are really quite into it. but i just find 75% of ‘teachers’ etc have a pretty yucky feeling about them, and prey on people going through hard times or whatevs.
it means when i find an amazing practitioner or healer i stick with them.
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OHMYGOD.
i have just managed to extract myself from a two tin cans and a piece of string “connection” that was a taurean man who thought we had soul history that needed fixin. it wasn’t ominous, more kind of fun but lots of flim flam shilly shally. ultimately hes waiting for his soul mate…. “karma tits” as mystic called her once very fetchingly, hahahaha, and KT can have him. hes back in the online place he found me in, constantly, i think he has a digital sleeping bag and just opens his eyes every hour on the hour to see who’s arrived. really funny. he comes from the next village down the road from susan boyle. fascinating.
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“I am not saying i am the greatest astrologer in the world”
OK then I will “You are the greatest astologer in the world” by my humble reckoning. The breadth and range of your knowledge, and your ability to home in on pertinent details is simply awesome. If others had a tenth of your talent they would be merely very good.
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I second that Bloss, and I’ve been around astrology for some time – started 30 years ago.
My God, I’m ancient, except now that doesn’t scare me like it did at 30. I still think of myself as 33. You know when you hear news reports and they mention ages – always shocked when it’s my age – blah – I’ll admit 44 – just feel 33. Curiously I was 33 when I gave birth to my first child, a daughter. Vanity will make me say that peeps always think I’m younger, but I think its my conjunction of planets in cancer/4th/5th house inc venus/north node/mars/moon/ and as I discovered today Bacchanus – god of wine and fun in 4th.
Truly Mystic, have never felt such a truth/connection/ less bullshit than with you. And many “prof astologists” have turned me off; thus leaving me to my own devices, which has proven useful. l can cut the BS – esp with Sat conj asc trine those 4th/5th house benifics. Blessings to us all that you are who you are. xx -
Divine M, it is so true! Wots actually lovely is your marriage of the esoteric and the practical, of truth and beauty with nuts and bolts. And SANS the horrendous moralistic guilting that many astros seem to indulge in these days!
I once had one tell me that my love life hinged on me dating as many peeps as possible. You think? A baseball coach could’ve told me that, no? Law of Averages et al.
And finally, you are inspirational darling. Truly truly ever.
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u know it’s weird two of mine have been women – there was that tantric sex guy but I was outta there as soon as I was satisfied – can you be a bad disciple?
I had an “aura reader” detail a desperate and frightening series of past lives most of which involved me being impaled – on a ghengis khan style mongolian sword, there was some kind of similar forced to have sex with the indians story and another one at knife point and then she went on to detail an experience from my present day childhood and suggested my father had molested me. THAT was the weirdest part – my father had never been around – ever – and I had no memory of this situation and I’m certain I would have – the list of reasons to steer clear of the man is long but that is not one of the things on it. She then went on to tell me I had to go to some place where I could be healed and talk to some guy who would do this for me. This is the flashing red light tho – she then went on to detail her own present life violations and how this guy she was recommending helped her – and I suspect they were lovers. It was creepy and sicko.
The next was a shadow yoga woman – what a psycho. So I’m sitting talking to her and suddenly she looks startled and points at my abdomen and tells me I have to see a doctor. I go to this woman to learn yoga not to be medically diagnosed so this was weird and out of context. She gets more and more aggravated and I tell her I am happy with my current medical practitioners, am healthy and it really isn’t any of her business whatever she is seeing. She then tells me I have cancer – it was hideous and entirely inappropriate. She wouldn’t shut the fuq up so I ran out of there and was so hyperventilating and hysterical and upset that Aqua Cap had a moment of total alpha male like I have never seen before – it was insanely virile – and hoofed it in there and apparently yelled foul things at her – she was a vile woman with a huge gash of a scar across her abdomen. She haunted me for ages after that. I even went to my doctor and told him I wanted to have a test and he said he’d do it but did I really want to give this woman power by following through so i said no.
Both of them were projecting their own hideous sad embittered lives onto the people who entered their orbit in a professional context. Bitches.
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o and yes if I had to guess their sign they were what I always think is classic pass aggressive taurus. Not that taureans are all pass agg just that when they are they do it in style.
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Thanks sweetie.
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mmm yes important to try not to generalise lest ye offend – if it’s any consolation my sign is apparently most likely to be fickle or deeply flawed in love or something or maybe it’s just slutty and unreliable I can’t remember now
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But I can do it in real style – more to do with mars methinks! Having sun at just 1 degree I’m not always keen to assume the toro stereotype. Still, vile is as vile does, regardless of sign.
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Absolutely with Mystic and Saggi. My first experience at the tender age of 15 was mainly to do with wanting to learn meditation in an eastern philosophy based organisation. It was all good, until “they” noticed I was becoming a regular and then the inculcation began …. oh you must be vegetarian (that I didn’t mind so much) … but the “now to experience true connection to the soul and enlightenment you must be celibate” made me run so fast I left skid marks in the carpet. I hadn’t even had sex yet for fark sakes!
Since then I’ve always cast a weary/wary eye on so called initiates. I grew up in an area where people left for India in droves to cast off their bondage of self, only to come back with weird names, bald heads and saffron clothes and then set up poxy pseudo businesses ripping people off doing bullshit “rebirthing” and the likes. I’ve gone to all kinds channelers, seers, whatnots and deliberately told them either nothing, or a blatant lie to see what kind of rubbish would present itself … and also just in case someone actually caught me out! None of them did.
The best experiences I’ve had were with an old skool astrologer when I was 16 who did my chart from hand and told me things it was impossible for her to know of at the time. Particularly regarding my career. The second was a psychic who used tarot, who channeled a dead person who I didn’t know had died at the time and had a message for me that basically changed my life. Mystic was pretty spot on without being deductive or overly determinative for my 07-08 transits too. Plus she’s funny and completely non wanky.
My Aunty who actually started life off as my Uncle (yeaaaaaaaah I know weird long story) is actually a psychic. She appalls me! Being a Scorpio she just reads people and tells them what they want to hear. YUCK. We had so many arguments regarding the ethics of this.
I’ve read the tarot since I was 12 but after accidently outing two gay people, and predicting more relationships than I care to think about stopped it. Now to me it’s just a snapshot … a photograph of present circumstance.
There is something bigger than us, but we shall never truly understand so my feeling is that it’s best to just be kind, generous, honest and open hearted in our life here and now.
The biggest ego wank of all is the spiritual one. Beware.
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Mind you the bad guru above would be kinda cute sans the beard and the rasta dreads. Cool vacant Neptunian eyes. Nice nose. I bet he’s a Leo. Has anybody noticed that Leos tend to have flat/aquiline noses??
I’m so going to suck at this celibacy thing…
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But REALLY … those abs
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Don’t get me started Mystic. (I’m trying to have an early night)
Unfortunately never got the birth details of gurus I’ve met, except for one Sagg. But have met too many. I have mars neptune conjunct in Scorp in the 11th house, which Christine Broadbent picked up on as a tendency to come a cropper with spiritual focus groups – a serial occurence for this Sagg rising idealist. Fondness for integrity and truth causes friction every time.
Anyway, will say that the worst trick I’ve seen, which seems to give these sleazes the same sort of gratification as bedding their followers, is to make out they’re psychic while doing some sort of hands on healing, then pry into patients’ sex lives. One guy near Lismore tried a reading of my ovaries and then tried to tell me certain ages where I had experienced sexual trauma. Another guy did something similar. The idea is to get you to disclose your sexual history and then of course they have power over you. It’s an act of extreme aggression. I stonewalled the dude in Lismore and was very disappointed because a couple of reputable therapist mates had referred me to him.
Both guys I’ve seen do this are also teaching healing courses etc. usually recruiting patients into expensive group mind fuq sessions, and buying up over priced esoteric products. I went to one workshop run by the Lismore louse (for research purposes as I have a major in Religious studies, with a special interest in cult dynamics, not that I let that on), and most of the pupils were women, and many were very vulnerable. The workshop involved lots of physical contact, catharsis and high emotion, and he’d established an inner sanctum of female followers who ran around gushing after him. It chilled me to think that he’d probably done the ovary palaver on most of the women there.
If I ever finish the project I’m working on, I’m considering doing an investigative study of a high profile yoga teacher whose classes I attended, who, while dying of cancer, counselled his much younger wife to commit suicide. http://www.theage.com.au/news/general/guru-gone-wrong/2005/06/25/1119321938877.html
What’s a pity is that there are so many decent healers out there working their arses off to maintain integrity and do the right thing by people, BUT my policy is to be damned careful and question everything.
Also, a genuine healer can help without needing to know anything at all about your history.
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ok now Uber .. may I remind you of my standpoint that archetype and myth can be dangerous?
I know you’re gonna hate me for that…
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Why would I hate you prowln? You’re welcome to your standpoint.
These men are dangerous. When they used archetypes etc they distorted or misrepresented them for their own purposes. Again, it wasn’t the archetypes that were dangerous, or spiritual pursuit for that matter, it’s the lack of integrity of the people abusing those things and preying on the ignorance and vulnerability of others. You can’t write off spirituality and mythology just because people misuse it. Or maybe you can personally, but that’s a bit like throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
According to your reasoning, astrology is dangerous too, which makes me wonder what you’re getting out of it.
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Astrology is not based on mythology nor archetype. It was created via a form of pure mathematics and science that even we can’t get our heads around today.
I love astrology because it’s pure reasoning, created by people in an age who had the time for pure reasoning. Or perhaps … the aliens came down to help ‘em out. heh
Myth and archetype are just crude human forms for explaining that which cannot be explained which is why it’s dangerous. It half explains half of something without saying anything true or real or fundamentally useful about anything.
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Astrology is based on math and archetype. To my way of thinking, each explanation and description for planet and zodiac sign is archetype in a pure form reaching back eons.
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it’s true that reading and interpretation of the movements of the planets and the cosmos started as soon as some bright spark started to note it down. And there were many bright sparks. Crossing all cultural boundaries. Every culture may have it’s own archetype for describing the same phenomenon. But that’s just a human description, which again varies from culture to culture.
The phenomenon itself remains pure and of itself.
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deep cheshire – deep and good
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NNB/OB, seabird, saggigal and others thanks for sharing your stories – and thank goodness you walked away to tell the tale! That IS taking your destiny into your own hands.
Uber, I just read the guru-gone-wrong story in the link you provided. Bloody hell, truly awful. What a manipulative, fake, deluded, narcissistic sociopath this old bastard was. I don’t understand what motivates these people to commit such huge acts of deceit on others, especially in the name of helping others, but there must be something about using the guise of a ‘guru’ or a ‘spiritual healer’ etc. that works on gullible or needy types and allows these ‘practitioners’ to achieve the self aggrandisement they so desperately seek?
It must be a 2-way exchange/relationship because it wouldn’t work if his followers said thanks for the fab yoga class, but no I will not be opening my cheque book or signing up to be a slave for you! The followers must really think/feel that they are getting something as well? Sad.
In the context of thinking about what makes these awful predators tick, I was struck by seabird’s comment of “like attracts like”. Maybe these creeps are soooo shallow or hollow, they attract others with similar holes to fill? At the core of it there must be a handing over or negating of personal power (and individual responsibility) from the follower to the guru. This can’t go anywhere good. It is a fundamentally flawed exchange. It is right to seek self-knowledge and to explore what it is to be your authentic self in this world, but surely that is never going to come from a wholesale giving-over of yourself to anyone or anything how ever seductive it seems?
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yeah, re: the like attracts like thing, it makes me think of that saying, the one about bad boys? a woman says ‘i dont know why i keep attracting bad boys into my life?’ and the therapist says ‘its not that you attract them, its that you let them into your house.” ie, yeah, attraction (energetic) happens because of all manner of reasons, and yes when in a vulnerable state(even if overtly hiding that you’re vulnerable) and looking for answers/healing to suffering/sad etc then these ppeps will pop up to ‘help’. pure predator stuff. without even going into the more dodgy sexual predator aspect, its just incredibly energeticaly predatorish- they want our energy.
the real moment is whether or not we then invite it into our life, or ‘just keep walking’! yes, that is the moment of relinquishing persnal power, so right. i had to learn to be very aware of that exact moment that the balance shifts.
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Hi nat,
Yeah Yogendra, from the article above was very convincing. I know his doctor and he told me that even his inner sanctum weren’t aware of the extent of his crooked dealings. And probably what doesn’t come across from the article is that the followers WERE getting something out of the interaction, apart from working for little money etc. He ran two big health clinics staffed by psychologists and some excellent doctors who belonged to his group, in addition to a school, and those organizations did good work.
I went to the yoga classes for about a year, and still do the yoga. And the guru used to talk about principles from the Bhagavad Gita, some of which are super useful and practical. People in the group were genuinely caring, conscientious and following the philosophy of compassion that he was teaching. It’s just that he wasn’t. He made it appear that he did, and it took a long long time for the harm to be exposed because he managed to cover it up so well. I’m interested in how many others were complicit in the deceit and how they justified it to themselves. I’m also interested in the damage it did to the followers after they found out he was a rat.
In a lot of cases, it’s not that people consciously hand themselves over to a guru so much as they see a cause or an organization that appeals to their ideals, with what appears to be a kind and wise leader, and that gets them in initially, but then vampires them.
This phenomenon is not restricted to the world of weird religious cults. It can happen anywhere that people interact, whether it be a church, a political org or a relationship between two people. How many of us have thought we’ve met someone really special/attractive/full of promises and they turn out to be not only an ass but an abuser?
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Very interesting Uber. It would be fascinating to look at exactly who was complicit in covering up the double standards (and the embezzlement) of the bad guru, provided they would be open & honest about it now. Deceit & deception are everywhere, you are right. I think conscious deceit of others (as opposed to the delusions we create for ourselves) does cause damage at a fundamental level… one can certainly learn from it but it does hurt us I believe. Maybe its the betrayal of trust that hurts the most? Or maybe that is just my naive Moon in Aries talking!
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The thing that has always struck me about my experience with the yoga woman in particular is that I have medical sensitive abilities and although I never did it in my work because I don’t believe it is right because I am not a doctor I have successfully pin pointed illness that had not yet manifested in the physical realms in people. I have often wondered if the thing she was seeing in me was a reflection of what had happened to her. Hall of mirrors and all that – her scar was not a caesarian one and she had the physique of someone who had previously been overweight and then lost it so I do wonder if she was having her own weird trip at my expense. Seeing her own shadow.
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Uber, I feel sick to the core – just know that could well be occuring and you confirmed it. Please do what you can and spread the word. I agree there are many decent healers. I have exact problem with trusting healers and am using traditional (sat conj asc in pisces) when I could probably speed up healing with hands on plus psychotherapy, but don’t totally trust alternate medical world.
However, must say I am having great results with Irish psychotherapist (i.e. psychiatrist – beautiful persoh) , but know I have bodily pain that needs release too. BUT how long did it take for me to find her. Need to start younger! Good to know you are on to it and blessings for being you. xx
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chuckle….I had a cheesecloth wearing jesus clone look into my eyes at a dinner party and ooze at me that I had a beautiful aura….I leaned closer, looked into his eyes and oozed back that it wasn’t an aura, it was a forcefield.
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may the force be with you cheshire. hehe
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nice to see you back CC. Missed you!
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thanks so sweet scorpy r, I’ve missed you too. It’s been hectic but fantastic with only a few hick-ups and I’ve had gremlins in my computer. My intro to new taureans world was to arrive at his house after a 6 1/2 hour drive to discover that a possum had gone to possum paradise leaving it’s decomposing body in the ceiling. It wasn’t the welcome my poor darling had planned.
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ha,ha
That’ll quell the ‘ol snake charmer…
Was just thinking about you yesterday CC!
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you guys are good for my soul xox
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and with you prowln’ xx
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OMG The world is littered with these guys!!!
I had such a problem when I was growing up in Australia with this bollucks
Often found at places like confest, where sexually preditorial behaviour is constantly excused because they are self proclaimed gurus and all women not conforming to this are not intune with her inner goddess
(you know the nice hot one that shags everyone one they made up in their head)I can guarantee I can stand in a room for 5 min on my own at certain events when one of these guys will start his rant, ask me a serious of see thorugh questions about my childhood in an attempt to use against me later and tell me all about his sexual liberation values and his love of women. When rejection occurs its my lack of sexual evolvement is to blame and I hold back on honouring the connection due to my father issues
twisted and tragic guys!
-unimpressed scorpio
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20 years old, vulnerable, almightily and clinically depressed and walking through Pitt Street Mall at lunch time, a man walked up to me and told me that I had an incredible white light around my head. He then told me he was an American Indian (looked and sounded like one) and because of my white light I should come to his house and we should talk. On the way to his house in Redfern he told me that his wife and child had died recently in a car accident in France and he was on a spiritual journey around the world to try to find some meaning in life. Of course i thought something amazing was happening, some divine connection that was going to lift me out of my horrible now and into some incredible future, Until he suggested that he massage me (ladies, how many blokes have tried this subtle move on you??). I had very little sense at that age, but what sense I did have instructed me to tell him that i had to meet my father for lunch now thanks very much for the invitation.
throughout my far-too-long experience of clinical depression, I found that, energetically, like often attracts like. Too many weird experiences to mention, but this was one of the creepiest. Now I’m so good, and the weirdies leave me alone yay!
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Aaahhh Mystic, time for work again, i go with a smile and a giggle. If ever you do need relief from PMT Defcon 5 just re read your own words, they are bound to put a smile on your face or just giggle.
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My Tantric Yoga teacher put my back into severe spasm from overworking a position (not sexual),
never went back.
I new age chiro/osteo did the same (never took a case history) so badly was out for the count 6 weeks!
Went to a remedial masseuse who started talking tarot. Told her that was NOT what i came for.
Other Chiro told me never ever to wear heels, then saw her out partying in spikes.
Other chiro told me i had nematodes (wormy things) & put a magnetic pad over my tummy.
Never went back…………the list from 15 years ago is endless, too many dodgies to list.
Too often went out the same door i went in with knowledge of what not to do or say in my learning years.
Did they think i was suffering from ‘heavy wallet syndrome’? Methinks.
Fave quote from me in those days “Ma look what they have done to my song’!
Twenty years of sifting though it all & now i know ‘the person has to feel better leaving than when they came in’ or you have not been in the presence of a healer.
So sad to hear of all the misuse & abuse in these areas. Not sure why we look outside our SELVES for
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here here pegasus .. it’s all in the mind, or the culture we live in focusing on disease like mentality coercing us to believe there’s stuff wrong when there ain’t. God/dess resides within methinks.
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Pegs, I try to use your principal even with friends/visitors to my house not only for them but it also makes me feel great to wave them off with them laughing and smiling all stress momentarily gone.
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When I was in my early 20′s a group of friends & I used to go to a psychic cafe in Gosford. I had a tarot reading with this guy, who gave me his number & made out he had ‘further information’ for me. Of course, I called and he strung me along & wanted to meet me for a drink etc and I clued in to what he was doing. I was so appalled as he seemed like such a nice genuine guy, it was all such a facade, and I was horrified that he might actually succeed in doing this with young, naive, impressionable girls. That was my first & unfortunately not the last experience. The worst was this guy my auntie had referred me to for a tarot/clairvoyant reading. He came to my house & we started the reading After a while he stated telling me how much his wife would love me, insisted I had to come to a agan gathering (he was head of a well known pagan network) and told me I had abilities etc and I needed a good teacher & he knew just the person but it would be like sending a lamb to the slaughter as this guy would just gobble me up. Ugh. He made it sound like it was meant to be that we encountered each other – he had the connections I needed for my spiritual path and “oh by the way I have an open marriage”. His wife had 2 girlfriends & he had 3 and then he gave me his home number & invited me to come for dinner so we could all meet etc etc. I played dumb & just let him think I fell for it. As soon as he left I had to go thru & ‘undo’ everything he had done in the house. Was so revolting. I just couldn’t believe anyone could abuse the position of trust so innocently given. I was so angry at myself for having ‘opened’ myself up to this guy, and to have him abuse that was horrid. In any case, I learnt my lesson.
Ugh. Vile creature. Was such a repugnant Crowleyite.
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I’ve always had extreme reservations about any men becoming involved in wicca LL. The whole male perception is foreign to the gentleness and connectedness of all living things and I’ve found that those involved seem to want to introduce rules and regulation (their own) and set up hierarchies to strut their stuff, seemingly ignoring and suppressing the feminine powers often surrounding them. I know of two such in SE qld and have watched and smiled as their tiny empires crumbled. They just don’t get it.
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and don’t they always love all the ceremonial aspects and get all worked up about the importance of “doing the work” skyclad .. meh
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David Buckland is quoted as saying ” it must be awfully weak power or magic if it’s hampered by a few layers of clothing”
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This doesn’t sit well with me – wicca is about embracing the whole not separatism from the masculine or feminine. Peeps who misuse power can be found in all modalities.
Without the sun we would not see the moon.
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a psychic cafe in Gosford ? that cracks me up..
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I am hunting for a good Wicca organisation in the inner suburbs of Melb. Can’t seem to find one. I know they are here as I see there ceremonial sites along Merri Creek on my walks. I wanna be a part of it. But no creepy Crowley-ites purr-leese~!
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My heart goes out to all the weak and innocent who have suffered as a result of trusting in these vile predators.
We yearn for that spiritual and human connection and in that yearning we at times overlook the obvious.
I give thanks daily for being blessed with an amazing “bullshit detector” so have never been caught up in any of this misfortune.
I also mostly keep it to myself unless asked as I’ve been accused of being “distrusting” – and then the truth comes out and I think why can’t others see this too ? perhaps it’s the kataka sun/ pisces moon.
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“I get e-mails ALL the time from peeps saying “HELP” as some fairground psychic took a quick peek at an ephemeris and pronounced said person to be destined to be forever poor or not to have a loving relationship due to karmic shit etc etc.”
A few years back I saw a male clairvoyant (highly recommended by a couple of female friends) and the first thing he said on seeing me was “i can see a funeral – it looks like you in the casket – its somewhere south – in sydney – you shouldn’t go to live in sydney or you’ll die …”
you gotta larf (at least i do) – lolz
and no, i’ve never lived in sydney – its a great place to visit, but …
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Gasp. Where do I begin…?
Since we’re chockful of men in muslin pants, I’ll draw from the other side of the line to those in a dress i.e. my Catholic childhood. As everyone may know, Catholic clergy take a vow of celibacy, it is completely enforced (and IMO, a superb way for the church to control not only peeps but anything they acquire). So it is the oddest thing to see parish priests usually surrounded by a clutch of women, all in the name of piety, tending to his needs.
Whether its dinner or laundry or whatever, and I suspect at times probably something else. To be told from youth in judgment, by some man, I have no idea from whence his authority came, whether I am good or bad with no real interest in my soul, frankly makes me ill.
Whatever it is, its abuse of an authority that should be taken with humility as a privilege to guide. No one should laud themselves simply an expert in matters of the soul, perhaps a fellow traveler who has traveled certain points a few more times than one has but certainly not as someone who knows about it ALL much better than you do. Is my moon in Aqua showing yet? hehe
But my point is that we are all weak in some areas and strong in others. Flow is inhibited by anyone who would set themselves up as having any control over what is ultimately an individual journey.
And on another note bowing to Cheshire Caps point about men in wicca, I recently read an article about the value of women in the justice system. That female judges tend to review the implications of their judgments as a whole vs male judges who tend to uphold the crispness of the law regardless.
I think this is a fine demonstration of what the female heart brings, for where do crimes spring from but from broken souls? Of course, this isn’t to say there aren’t any amazing and fair male judges but just a contrast between how nature can still show her face in what is considered an androgynous arena i.e. the law.
But perhaps this is why justice is portrayed as a blindfolded woman…though popularly believed that this is to mean that it applies to all in fairness, perhaps it also implies that it is not always one’s eyes one needs to see the truth, but the heart.
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Druidic judges or brehons were both male and female equally respected. One of the brehon laws that makes me smile is that a man was fined for not bedding his wife when she requested but not vice versa.
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I can’t say I disagree
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Ive always had one rule with so called spiritual gurus..If there is money or sex involved they are basically charlatans.
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charlatans are ok if you enter into it knowingly for a a bit of fun though.
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as long as your wearing teflon and none of the shit sticks. You become what you mix with, full stop.
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i think there are ways of negotiating situations without “becoming” them – sometimes you are simply a witness not a cohort or accessory.
I love the way you spelled that punctuation out davidl – just in case i forgot i was reading a sentence? ;o) I went to that flakey school in the 70s that didn’t teach punctuation so this is an ideal approach for a victim of experimental scholastic theories.
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davidl I think you get a big ego boost being one of theonly boys to blog here – non, though I must admit you display perfect partner qualities if not a little temper temper and impatience. Lots of knowledge tho and it shines through that Gem asc, so keep on giving it to us. xx
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In what way would I be getting an ego boost ? seriously ? This is the 2nd comment about my ego you know, or is it the 3rd ? It is funny though coming from a leo.. Please explain ?
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hehe I’d say just the opposite is true for David. He’s delightful but we do sometimes give him a hard time. That wouldn’t be ego lifting
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Ain’t THAT the truth, David. Have fallen down some holes in the past in my Tantric
exploration.
Was invited to ‘The Fountain Group’ an Adders esoteric send light at 10am & 4pm to the
water fountain in Victoria Square (heart of CBD). A bloke gravitated to me started talking Ascensionism, told me he was a Tantric Master & really made a pitch.
Wrote them a letter after to ask if this was a ‘New Age pick-up place’.
Again, an invite for a talk on the OTO. Took my beloved crystal egg to absorb information
placed on my lap (also had a black russian drink next to chair,it was in a pub on a square with 2
other pubs all starting with a ‘A’), as soon as AC was mentioned, i quickly stood up to leave as he creeps me.
My chair went over backwards & crashed as my drink fell over, my crystal went rolling back down the room! All at once.
CHAOS! My anger just blew i guess….mmm. The most disliked dead man in the world. Bet he knew Hilter, alter ego’s.
Every bodyworker has to self monitor again & again so as not project stuff or go by intution alone.
It must have science behind it, meta-science if not mainstream, to have any validity & effect.
All i know is Pleasure reduces Pain………….any pain…………….at all………..always.
Didn’t that cute blonde Dr. Rosie….. say G U R U = drop the G & you are you. -
That man in the photo has very scrary eyes. Maybe i won’t go to India but back
to my beloved ‘children’ in French Polynesia. My island Home.-
My first thoughts exactly pegasus as thought if that man came at me with his hand out and those “zoid” (freakazoid) eyes, I’d be runnin’ faster than from Charile Manson himself…
My exp. has been that an enlightened teacher does not need to even touch one to make a difference. Let alone screw…..
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that’s cute…..and good…
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THAT’S what it is………he looks like Manson. OMG.
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He’s just doing the cross eyed thing, come on you know, cross eyed meditation is big with the mytics
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A right/left brain synchro…
All I’ve ever longed for here on the net, is a crossed eyed emo-con…
Danged if I’ve seen one….
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Oh David, of course he is. Didn’t see that at first.
Yes that is an excersise but i was shown it with the eyes closed so as
to be looking into the 3rd eye space.
Tantric/Kundalini Yoga has many unusual facial expressions for various reasons, duh.
Kali with her tongue stretched out……etc.-
either that or he’s saying, ‘stop the cameras I just sat on my left testicle’ !
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Creepiest pic I’ve seen posted to date on this site Myst. It’s always the eyes. and davidl I’ve explained my spazi attack on later post to you.
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WHAT IS YU MSN?
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