Ceres-Watch

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Ceres Illo By Mernie Buchanan

Hmmm. Ceres. Roman Goddess of the harvest, fertility, fruit & vegetables, grain…Ceres is where we get the word CEREAL from, also the Dwarf Planet previously known as an asteroid but upgraded at the same time PLUTO got demoted. Oddly – and I am not in mood to dwell upon darker aspects of Ceres/Demeter/Persephone myth today – Ceres wound up sharing her daughter with Pluto himself.

Anyway, i have not thought much re Ceres – i oft find her a bit Moon-like…But let’s do Ceres-Watch. Use Astrodienst, if you do not already know, to figure out your Ceres & see if it coincides with womanly caring et al. Ceres has been in Virgo (a nice fit, i.m.o) since November 2008 and will zoom into Libra in August 2009.  She is currently Zero Virgo so trining Pluto. Have those of you whom are mothers noticed any intensification of your parenting stance?

I have natal Ceres at Zero Pisces & have noticed – since the opposition of Ceres all April – that I have become really interested in transmitting helpful details to my children. I mean on everything from what exactly msg is to what a rental bond is and how to tell if someone is on drugs. Etc. The whole gamut. Everything I think i know.

Does anyone have any Ceres wisdom?

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  1. Sweetpea’s avatar

    My Scorpio Ceres is conj. my Jupiter in 6th, sextile Moon in 8th. I feel this really fits well with my massage work in so much as nurturing, etc.

    Luckily, both my girls have Sag. Moons conj. my Ceres and Jupiter and so being a loving Mom has been pretty easy.

    They do remember a certain wooden spoon I must have used maybe like once as I did not believe in hitting my girls or yelling if possible. For the most part the worst I would do is have them sit down and fold their hands and require they be quiet until I said they could get up.

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    1. davidl’s avatar

      another similar aspect, SP, I have ceres in scorp in the 5th

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      1. Sweetpea’s avatar

        David,

        If not too busy with assisting Mystic with prospective new beau and doing astro. chart info., do you mind if I ask what degree is your rising Gem?

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        1. davidl’s avatar

          22°56′18

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          1. Sweetpea’s avatar

            Oh, so earlier than mine… 26 some such…

            Thanks doll…Was just curious…

  2. no name brand’s avatar

    ok not wisdom more of a question seeing as we’re on grains and abundance and harvest etc when the hell did muffins get so big? I have happened upon a good one which is unusual but it is bigger than a mans clenched fist. God knows why that’s the image that comes to mind as i stare at my muff in disbelief – I’m in WA its all one hit murder over here so the clenched fist is the first benchmark for size that came to mind – mars / uranus manifesting symbolically? Everything’s bigger here.

    Ceres in the 5th in scorpio – how many degrees away from something makes a conjunction? Am maternal but in a rational you have to let me know if you want it kinda way – it’s not on tap unless you are within my circle of trust. Don’t want kids cant’ think of anything worse for me personally – big ups to whoever else who chooses that path but not for me thanks. Is that a gemini ascendant lilith conjunct thing again – yes banging on about it but it seems pivotal to me in the context of my views on motherhood in respect to how it would all work out (or not) for me.

    Love kids just don’t want them in my house all the time. Giving birth to one removes the freedom of choice factor.

    Interestingly i was kidnapped as a child and all kinds of plutonian madness ensued. I am at one with the myth of persephone. Once you’ve known the darkness of the underworld things can go one of two ways – after struggling with the debacle that was my childhood i chose the one that leads towards the light and seeing the good in all things whenever I can because you never know when the lights will go out again and the smell of damp sacking will permeate the air.

    haha – god i feel so intense today i just spur of the moment went to my first yoga class in 4 years rode my bike to and from and I am so cut to the chase tell it like it is too big for the room don’t fuq with me ok? – and then laughing maniacally to self even in pubic places because it’s come on so fast and strong this vibe. V grateful i can work in my house now and not mingle with the others for the rest of the day – they’re not ready for this.

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    1. Sweetpea’s avatar

      NNB,

      I was totally cutting up about “the grains” and such… and “when did muffins get so big?”

      Staring at your muff? LOL..

      As I read, I was thinking muffs got so big when Ceres got promoted…lol…and Pluto got demoted..Maybe there is really something to that? Maybe the underworld is now a muffin and Pluto got engulfed?

      I was laughing at all that until I read you got kidnapped?

      Good grief..Glad you are back and able to go to your yoga class and ride your bike. The Ceres/Mother/Aries in me is ready to kill….

      For you..

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      1. no name brand’s avatar

        AAAAAh yes that would be a potent primal emotion wouldn’t it? My mum was changed by it let me tell you. And I spent much of my childhood reading in my room because she was very protective of me after I got back to her.

        For me it’s now just something that happened and it doesn’t really have a large place in my life – it’s not the lounge suite it’s more the weird ornament on the window sill that I dust occasionally if you get what I mean. I actually think in many ways it helped nudge me to a more positive way of life because my chart is very plutonian and there’s some other intricacies that can manifest in some pretty hairy ways but somehow all the early experiences I had have meant I learned how to flip things in my mind and make them better.

        I also met a lot of amazing mystical hippie types as a child artists and musicians etc.- there was always at least one good guy/gal looking out for me – and they taught me about meditation and things like that as a child so in retrospect i think they were trying to give me things that it takes some peeps until adulthood to find because they knew I had already experienced some things most adults don’t even get to in a lifetime.

        They were teaching me how to get through things in a spiritual way. I often wonder where some of them are now… maybe here? – Marie Downey – THANKS TO YOU for teaching me enamelling and letting me stay in your dusky soft focus warm light house and your lovely husband Peter for teaching me how to rise above pain with your mind. So many good hippies… it’s a shame the hippies went bad in the 80s

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        1. no name brand’s avatar

          o!!! sorry hippies that’s a generalisation always a danger zone – it’s like boobs tho you know? boobs changed in the 80s and so did hippies. It all got a bit unnatural. is that a pluto thing? I have to stop this inane banter and do something constructive with this home time xxxx love to all the hippies young and old ;O)

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          1. Sweetpea’s avatar

            lol…

            Don’t feel bad NNB, you sparked my imagination momentarilly…I was just sittin’ here thinking of a new song to write…

            “Hippies Gone Bad” or some such…Sort of with a Hells Angels overtone…

            (don’t write songs but like I said, sparked my imagination)..

          2. no name brand’s avatar

            O now you simply MUST write a song! it’s the ringing in of the new – mars uranus styles – maybe you really are a songwriter and never knew it. A dirty limerick will suffice!

          3. Blossom’s avatar

            You could start with one about a muff – it means something else here!

    2. fluid feline’s avatar

      Curious NNB that with Scorp Ceres in the 5th (house of creativity and children) that you would spurn them. Love to see/analyse your chart. I know some that think children are burdens, ( is it Buddists who see children as punishment??) and they are BUT they are so much more, if I had my life over I would have more (I have 2). They are divine and hades, sometimes all at once but so much LIFE, evolution, joy, imo. No intention to offend the chosen childless just curious.

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      1. no name brand’s avatar

        Oh I’m not offended I am secure in my choice and you’re not the first I have met who doesn’t get it – and I understand you don’t get it because you have done it and loved it – and good that you have you must be a good mother – so you can’t see why others wouldn’t want to as well – but that’s one of the keys to motherhood in my observation. You have to be entirely committed otherwise you would hate them and your lot. You have to believe it is the only choice because it is the one you made. It’s all part of the deal – and it is of course perfectly natural for women to have babies. Some women are very good at it and thank goodness for that.

        Not really sure what to say tho – if it was a job and there was a list of the things you have to do I wouldn’t apply… It just doesn’t interest me and there’s other forms of creation that I find satisfying they are shorter lived and I can put them down and go back to them when I feel like it. I often work freelance and I would not ever be able to guarantee I could feed one and am unwilling to consciously choose to have one and then adapt my life so it is fed thus sacrificing my other creative needs. And it’s not about being selfish as some people think, it would be selfish if I had one and couldn’t feed it – it’s about being conscious of your choices and your goals and personal needs and adapting to them. I like my life as it is and I would be pissed off if there was an interloper. Am not interested in sharing my husband with someone else 24/7 and his job means I would virtually be a solo mother – am certainly not interested in having one and then dealing with it on my own. He and I have creative plans long term and they do not include children. The physicality of it horrifies me and I recoil when I see pregnant women sometimes. It’s just not my thing.

        But i do like them – that’s the other myth – am not a child hater just because I don’t want them – like hanging with them, find them entertaining – just don’t want them around all the time…

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    3. davidl’s avatar

      I have the same ceres position NNB..

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      1. no name brand’s avatar

        so you too would freak out if you looked down and found a bulge of that shape and kind?

        re the stinger – do you swim with them when they’re in the ocean? Don’t let the sting get to you – i have no idea of the cause of the chip but it’s a toro so it’ll be something you don’t remember doing months ago. Chillax bra – invoke the power of the sacred vehicle or something – it’s not worth the effort and it’ll make this an angry place for you to be.

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        1. davidl’s avatar

          I am chilled sis just like to be clear, straightforward, makes life a lot smoother, pussyfooting just doesn’t work for me..Im a real person who is expressing myself as I am, not a cover story, hiding behind non sensical gibberish aimed at putting down others. Behind that bull hides a sad person who doesn’t like herself that much either.

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          1. no name brand’s avatar

            For a minute i thought you meant you would be fine about looking down and seeing a bulge the shape of a baby… the thing I don’t get is how you know enough to assign gender. O well duke it out then it just seemed so sudden – I, by the way, eat ice cream in my house alone and am a relatively happy soul :o )

          2. davidl’s avatar

            just a mental picture I get..don’t really know what gender it is

          3. Sweetpea’s avatar

            Being an Aries with Mars in Gemini on the Ac no less, I don’t pussy foot around either nor do I look for confrontation.

            But I will let it be known straight out and away when I am offended or someone is off the mark. Luckily Moon in Cap calculates response and takes action accordingly with pre observed reserve (gosh a couple of glasses of cab later and I’m full of crap…lol. Hey! T.G.I.F.!!)…

            But like with my Mom this a.m, (double Leo Sun and Moon), I was a bit peeved with her all day. I think what Mystic said lately about certain signs not wanting to be messed with is true and yet that is simply not my normal M.O. Another words, usually go with the flow..

            In the end, there is noting wrong with masturbation as what was Bull with Sting in Tail seeking to be so SHOCKING about

            “Hand it In”….

            Eh, maybe I will and maybe I won’t…

        2. no name brand’s avatar

          U are SO naughty

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  3. taurean alchemist’s avatar

    hmm, must be having a moon – ceres transit in the next ten hours or so, it being in early Cap (eighth house) – oh, come to think of it Pluto must be having a transit there too.

    have just posted some Ceres (motherly) wisdom on my new mama magic blog – http://www.mamamagic.wordpress.com for anyone interested in loving motherhood more.

    Ceres is conjunct a whole bunch of asteroid goddesses (pallas athene, juno and psyche) for me, so its hard to grok which energy is which – but its a whole lot of womanly stuff!

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    1. Sweetpea’s avatar

      Your girls are really adorable TA….And your advise/wisdom very caring and extrodinary…

      I have peeked in from time to time but you know, we sort of argued about the octa-mom so I kept my big mouth shut…

      Mother’s of the world unite!

      We’re the only thing gonna save this world, no? That or at least our off spring God willing…

      And of course NNB who while does not want kids, will use sling shot and muffins in unique yoga pose to fight off impending doom…

      :)

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      1. no name brand’s avatar

        We had a slingshot for a while – what a mad efficient primitive little machine. Illegal though.

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        1. no name brand’s avatar

          so umm yes in case anyones staking out this blog looking for peeps with a cache of slingshots we are no longer in possession of said implement.

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          1. Sweetpea’s avatar

            How about b-b guns? Will they be after us for that? And besides, need slingshot as there is always a Goliath somewhere needing to be slain…

            G.F.C, I.R.S….Bush/Cheney Admin gone now so can’t…

            Never mind!…

            Will just stick to keeping the doors locked at night..

      2. taurean alchemist’s avatar

        I’m honoured you’ve visited my site Sweatpea… no ill will harboured here – on the contrary I consider you a great friend for having challenged me so :D

        yeah, Mamas Unite. Lets start a union, and campaign for better pay and conditions :lol:

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        1. Sweetpea’s avatar

          “Sweat” pea?

          Okay, that does it…

          LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

          Yes, lets!

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          1. taurean alchemist’s avatar

            oh ho – didn’t mean that honest!! :lol:

    2. taurean with the HMBOTS’s avatar

      my youngest girl is 17 and i hate being a mother at the moment. one can do nothing right (if you say anything you’re interfering and if you say nothing you don’t care) so it’s all very mutually destructive. i’m over it!!

      ceres in cancer 1st house, so shouldn’t i be motherly and caring?!

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      1. fluid feline’s avatar

        taurean wthmbots – check out her chart, or maybe she’s just being 17 – “like” totally normal!! Sorry, I’ve yet to get there, my daughter is only 11 .But have heard the teen horror stories, but they don’t last. Would be interesting tho to check her moon, ceres, etc plus transits to see what’s going on.

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        1. taurean with the HMBOTS’s avatar

          good thinking FF ‘with cat like tread’!

          should have thought of that myself, just so exhausted with all the tantrums and emotions (and that’s just mine, LOL!)

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  4. no name brand’s avatar

    my ceres juno moon venus and mercury are all in the 5th in scorpio. I have just read about 5th house and my need for freedom of choice and not being a mother seems apt considering all the things residing in that house.

    Transiting Ceres is about to conjunct my mars in virgo in the third I wonder if I will birth a new filing system at work… Have been helping the person who blagged their way into her job get to grips with it. Return to the workforce after having many children not worked for more than ten years. I admire her balls and i will help her because I can see in her face that this is a HUGE transition for her. A rite of passage.

    She chose a weird place to transition tho. Had to teach her how to surf the net yesterday. God knows how she’s managed for the last few months – I’m the only one who’s realised she is not tech savvy. The handwritten envelopes when we could just have a quick push of a button mail merge to labels was a dead giveaway. She reminds me of my mother and she’s only a few years older than me. I want to see her succeed and feel good about her place in the world as a professional woman and an individual. Just can’t work out why she chose such a full-on hardcore job. Who by fire.

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    1. Sweetpea’s avatar

      So very generous of you to assist the other woman NNB. I got goose bumps reading it.

      You are like a midwife for women birthing themselves.

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      1. no name brand’s avatar

        mmm it’s weird because now i know she’s entirely fresh and with really no knowledge of systems etc. I just can’t get annoyed with her – her errors have caused me some grief – big time – but something stops me from even raising an eyebrow – i often wonder if that’s what it’s like to have a child. You just forgive them and help them not to do it again.

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        1. unpredictable pisces’s avatar

          top work nnb , it just shows how some people can be an expert in their field (raising children, IT, stage performers) but not hav a clue about other things. and its ok – why/how would they know anyway, it’s not their job……. I”m glad you are looking after said colleague. I always appreciate patience and kindness/forgiveness if i;m a newbie at s’thing. and one day you mght need the same tlc.

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    2. fluid feline’s avatar

      OMG NNB you are such a born mother. Perhaps the Ceres transit to your 3rd house Virgo Mars will conjure up a perfect “father”(sextile 5th house moon and venus; or maybe I just am a self-centred peep who thinks children are evolutionary; especially towards your heavy 5th house so attuned to nurturing. Perhaps all that nurturing is going somewhere special. Hope so. xx

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      1. no name brand’s avatar

        OMG i do so wonder why peeps always say that – i just choose my moments as opposed to having it on tap i mean keeping it real she’s part time and I’m not sure I’d have it in me if it was everyday. And yes mothers do have a propensity to believe everyone should get on board so i get it – you can’t help yourself you want to share all the joy you have experienced. But it just isn’t how I see it all panning out for me – and the blessed crone draws near with every passing day :o ) My creativity is being channelled just in a different way.

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  5. saggigal’s avatar

    aha, i have ceres conjunct juno and my sun-venus-neptune in Sagg. makes alot of sense- my mothering/womanly ideals are really emeshed with who i am as a person, my mothering instinct (with friends, family etc) is all about empowerment, support, being the best they can be all with a good dose of laughing at oneself. and obsessed with grains! (ie, carboholic). would suit ceres in my 8th, lol.

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    1. no name brand’s avatar

      o that down below is meant to be here soz.

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  6. no name brand’s avatar

    neptune in sagg – how does that work out? i had never thought about that combo – which house? interesting

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    1. saggigal’s avatar

      neptune is conjunct my venus and sun in Sagg in the 8th house. for me, it translates as idealistic ideas of all forms of love, and romanticising all manner of things, ie, not just people, but ideas, places, philosophies. especially philosophies. not so much dogmatic zeal, more whimsical utopian notions of justice, equality, empowerment. ideals of my ideals! it means though they’re based in a certain fire, gives it passion. neptune in the 8th, also, as i think i mentioned a while back in the supernatural thread, means a tonne of intuitive stuff going on, sometimes sensory overload. i like to think that the sagg grounds it a little, i can only imagine what it would be like if was a water sign/neptune in the 8th.

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      1. no name brand’s avatar

        O soz I don’t read it all i cherry pick – re water sign or neptune in eighth that would be wacky – maybe addicted to narcotics? – i don’t often encounter sagg – it seems zealous and full of energy but projected outward to things beyond the self. does that makes sense? is refreshing. brisk

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  7. fallen angel’s avatar

    Right so a bit lost on this one… it shows my Ceres in Aries in the 8th House. An attack of the MILFs??

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    1. Blossom’s avatar

      Snap FA. Mine is sitting right on top of my venus in aries in the 8th, very close to my merc. Trining uranus. No kids – never felt confident enough about who I was and what I was worth to want to replicate me in any way.

      Along with crabby moon, very nurturing of friends and family, and worked with kids for a long time. Also nurture ideas – uranus trining sun, venus, ceres, and virtually everything else. Like NNB I have immense patience for people who admit they don’t know something, or have no reason to know it. I’ve been told several times that I’m a good teacher. But woe betide those who bluff, or assume – ceres and venus go awol and out comes the mars squaring toro sun, and ariean merc and venus!

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  8. Sweetpea’s avatar

    NNB….”A dirty limerick will suffice!”

    Blossom on April 15, 2009 at 17:58
    You could start with one about a muff – it means something else here!

    Don’t get my Gem rising started!!! :)

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    1. Sweetpea’s avatar

      This gang is just too much fun but I gotta go to bed!! Fallen, you’re on the west coast (U.S)….are you in bed yet? If not, I won’t feel so bad…lol

      It’s 1:35 a.m!!

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    2. no name brand’s avatar

      let your freak flag fly sista

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      1. unpredictable pisces’s avatar

        nnb you sound a lot like a girl is used to live with on the Oz east coast :)

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  9. Aello’s avatar

    I have Ceres in Taurus which seems like a great placement but I’m not at all tuned in with Earth energies or particularly maternal. I do like kids but, and this is probably going to sound really weird, as equals. Maybe that’s because Ceres is in my 3rd house???

    Last (southern) spring though I was mega-crazy clucky, having fantasies about raising kids and animals and crops in the country. Turns out transiting Ceres was conjunct my Leo Moon (in 6th). It was really powerful energy.

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    1. no name brand’s avatar

      they are equals i agree with you aello – i too need to plant a crop of hay sometimes – so i have something to build a house with once it’s grown – it is the far off plan but hey seuss sometimes that ol urge to spill the seed comes over me am going to have to check my ceres next time it happens.

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      1. fluid feline’s avatar

        Hey NNB, read my earlier comments to yours above. Soz if I sound lecturing – perhaps it’s my Ceres in Sagg in the 10th house – foot-in mouth?!! Still amazed tho, with your loaded 5th house, you att re children, am surprised, BUT haven’t seen your chart, so will keep on listening and learning. I had a shitty childhood and maybe I am correcting that kharma and that is why my children are so important and necessary to my growth. Moon/Mars in Kataka in 5th conj North Node in Kataka in 4th conj Gem Venus in 4th; plus Saturn on Asc in Pisces (early shitty childhood) opp Merc/Uranus/Pluto in Virgo in 7th. Alll so interesting.

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        1. no name brand’s avatar

          you mama’s once you get a bee in your bonnet it’s all on. It’s not so much about having a shitty childhood my choice – it’s more about the kind of adulthood I want – a conscious choice in a particular direction. I think that’s about uranus conjunct sun – rational thinking? can’t remember and am bored with myself at the moment frankly but there’s something in my chart that’s all about rational or scientific thinking. It is def fascinating – I learn so much about astro here – sagg’s have piqued my interest today.

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    2. Mystic Medusa’s avatar

      U would plant, nourish etc major flourishings in your neighbourhood. You would take this SO much for granted but my current thinking on Ceres is that there is a modesty thing with it…But do pass on numbers of good peeps? Spread the light? Unable to resist helping out the person u eavesdropped on?

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      1. no name brand’s avatar

        I get it now – thanks Mystic if it’s me that is directed at – because goodness me it’s been a bit intense trying to explain it and FF seems convinced I should be barefoot and pregnant but I so know it’s not for me :o ) Good to know 5th house can manifest things in a different way.

        Def spread the light but prob not help out the one I eavesdropped on – that would feel a bit intrusive – not if they were hanging out next to me at the bus stop and were a stranger but if it was in context like in the public domain and up for grabs then yes. If it was a friend I’d ask if they wanted the information or were interested before launching into said assistance. Having the psychic woo woo means I have learned to dial back on the unsolicited advice – sometimes peeps don’t want to know or hear stuff and I think it’s important to be respectful of that.

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        1. scorpalicious robot’s avatar

          5th house is also “creative arts” it doesn’t always mean children.

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          1. no name brand’s avatar

            I’ve been trying to talk myself out of that corner for hours. Please check in more often. haha yes, jokes.

          2. scorpalicious robot’s avatar

            i know, I’ve spent all night catching up! Work is getting in the way of this blog… hehe

          3. scorpalicious robot’s avatar

            i just saw your long talking yourself out of the corner. It was written at 12.28 and i only just got it at 1.25. Like i said before, the RSS is s-l-o-w.
            I totally agree with ALL the reasons you gave for not wanting kids. I also find the physicality of it horrifying and recoil too.

          4. no name brand’s avatar

            bloody hell – nice not to be the only one – the RSS sounds annoying – it’s so hard to explain all the reasons why when questioned – and hard to say it without sounding offensive too – which is obviously not the goal. Sweet dreams robot.

          5. Blossom’s avatar

            NNB, sorry I didn’t jump in and back you up too. As usual, you were doing a stunning job on your own!

            I’m very creative, but no kids and never wanted them, but borrow other people’s now and again.

          6. no name brand’s avatar

            oh funny – YES where were you? I was joking tho – because I suspected SR would have a similar outlook. I think it’s good FF didn’t give up until she knew my answers – I’m sure there’s hundreds of other reasons others have too – as you probably know it’s not a common stance or if it is women keep quiet about it because there is a societal stigma attached. Think it’s funny the house it is ruled by is so full natally tho – I didn’t realise that was what that house ruled. We live and learn.

          7. Blossom’s avatar

            I’m just glad that the peeps here who have kids are so wholly devoted to doing the very best job they can caring for them. I have done a lot of work with disadvantaged kids and their families. Makes me want to cry – and often did – at the way those kids were used to try and fill needs in the parents, which usually failed. Kids needs often over looked, and in many cases, not even recognised.

            I couldn’t possibly entertain the idea of kids of my own unless absolutely wholeheartedly happy to subjugate my own wants and desires to theirs. Far too independent to consider it, and only just beginning to think like a proper, grown up adult :) I’ve always thought it was because of deep psychological problems I have, but as I learn, I now expect there is some kind of astro explanation for it. I too, have other creative and nurturing outlets.

            For those with kids, we need you and your offspring, and we need you to love what you do. But you don’t need me to do a substandard job of it – I don’t “do” babies!. I have a more useful role to play in taking your teenagers off your hands now and again and giving them a safe place to let off steam and grow independently, then give them back to you!! I’m more tuned in to the part of the system that helps those who are struggling, or even failing, with their kids. And as I believe that society as a whole is reponsible for all children, parents generally, need non parents generally, as back up when it goes wrong.

            I was talking to my Mum about this yesterday. From the age of 10 she sent us all off on independent kids hols. Parents could not afford a break for themselves as well, but just not having us all there for 10 days or so was a refreshing break for them. The people running the hols didn’t have kids of their own, but loved working with them. There is room for all of us to fulfill our creative needs and help each other.

        2. fluid feline’s avatar

          Not quite NNB. I hated being pregnant, the early baby stage – felt tied down and resentful of loss of freedom, especially with the first. That part goes quickly (but do remember feeling like it would never end at times). It’s now that I love (tho definitely have my moments and enjoy my time out when they are with their father). Absolutely know that 5th house is creativity, play, all the fun stuff as well as children. Aware that everyone has to find their own meaning/purpose – so soz if I sounded intense.

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          1. no name brand’s avatar

            o no need for apologies lovely – mothers do this – it’s not unusual, but it is phenomenal the verve you encounter if you do choose the path I and many others have. It’s akin to the enthusiasm of members of a cult who believe they have found the truth. I don’t have a problem with it tho – you believe you have found the truth – and it is the truth for you. All I ever ask is that my choice is respected as I respect yours and you have done that – and it’s good you kept asking questions because now you have some answers and maybe the next person like me you encounter won’t have to answer them :O)

    3. scorpion_tongue’s avatar

      Aello, hello. :)
      I to have have Ceres in Taurus but in the 7th House.
      I love to nurture those with feeding them. Cooking all kinds of meals esp. deserts! Do you like to cook for loved ones?
      I love children and am child-like myself. Lately, I have been too serious and need to reconnect to this more playful, honest energy.
      I also see children as wise beings and as equals. Could be my small statue and they see me as one of them?
      Curious haven’t studied Ceres in my chart before, but I like her vibe. :)

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      1. Aello’s avatar

        Hi scorpion_tongue. I’m sporadic with the cooking – snacking on nasties, then juicing and fasting; but yes, when I’m in the mood, I do enjoy cooking up (vego) feasts for friends and family. In the 7th you’d probably love cooking for your partner? Playful, honest and wise. I like take on kids a lot.

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  10. Pisces in CQ’s avatar

    I wouldn’t have a clue where ceres is in my chart but I did recently have to decide how to give the birds and the bees talk to my eldest daughter recently – some 3 or 4 years before I thought I’d have to!

    Decided to not miss out on anything that I wondered about or found disturbing about our bodies, sex and emotional reactions. It’s the first time I’ve felt like a proper mother and guidence figure really, not just a caretaker and guardian.

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  11. squeakmaster’s avatar

    Seemed to me as I read the Ceres description above that it’s kind of the opposite of the Lilith influence — any truth to that?

    I have both Lilith and Ceres in Pisces, on either side of my sun. Crowded 6th house with Mercury hanging out there as well. Not a mom now, but I think I’d like to be at some point. I’m not an overtly maternal type, though, coming off mostly as quirky.

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  12. unpredictable pisces’s avatar

    hi all…..i have uranus in 5th / scorp, and un-aspected ceres in 3rd house (altho 7 degrees off pluto? what is that?), 3rd house is split between virgo and Libra…..?! no actual desire to procreate…god, the grizzling and housebound-ness..hate the baby paraphernalia makes me want to run screaming onto the nearest yacht…..gah……. sorry where was i? but enjoy seeing little bambini guzzling spaghetti with napoletana sauce all over their faces. and I saw a carload of the cutest (read cheeky li’l bastards) kiddies today . oscillate wildly between ‘you are just the cutest thing’ and ‘thank fuq i don’t have to think about that’

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    1. scorpalicious robot’s avatar

      UP, Ceres in the third house “suggests nurturing through feeding ideas, teaching, and exposure to a variety of ideas and stimuli. Nurturing is expressed through creating networks that link together one’s friends and associates”

      I’ve never had any desire to procreate either. I just want my freedom more than anything.

      I have Ceres in Capricorn in 1st house – nurturing through achievement, control, being organised. Ceres is trine my Uranus and squared with Venus (THAT explains a lot!).
      I have a Cap rising, Lilith in Cap and Sun in 10th house. SO much Capricorn!! It all makes SO much sense now, like the missing piece in a jigsaw puzzle. Reading up on Ceres tonight has blown me away. Insight would be an understatement! Thank you Mystic!!!

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      1. unpredictable pisces’s avatar

        hey thanks scorpbot, (also for the link), yes that description does indeed make sense. I get off rant-box now. will read more.

        i love my networks, not to use people (well sometimes but in a good way, and they are free to use me in the same way), but to put people together…we can achieve so much more if we just know who to talk to, where to go, what to do. knowledge is power etc. (thanks Malcolm X)

        Sounds like you ahve a good understanding of how ceres placement relares to rest of your chart – sounds interesting, glad you hav learnt something!

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  13. scorpalicious robot’s avatar

    Mystic, i hope you don’t mind me sharing this link about Ceres through the signs and houses?

    http://tinyurl.com/cb6po7

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  14. Mystic Medusa’s avatar

    Thank u for asking and I so appreciate and value the thought. Of COURSE u can share a cool link here.
    But i don’t give a shit, personally. THAT thing is all over Ceres as like a New Agie Moon Mama and I am not so convinced that is she acts out in the chart. THe old -school planets we can see in the sky have a LOT of lit behind them.
    Personally, I am SO watching Ceres now.
    But so far as natal Ceres being relevant – no way!

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    1. no name brand’s avatar

      O thank goodness – i trust your words (well obviously) – so I might yet birth a new filing system at work as it conjuncts mars in my 3rd. Mercury in virgo needs to file.

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    2. scorpalicious robot’s avatar

      are you saying natal Ceres in general is not relevant or the info on the link not relevant? because i read it and thought it pretty much summed up my upbringing.

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  15. Neith’s avatar

    My Ceres is in Aquarius sextile Venus in Sagittarius. Step daughters only.

    Here’s a link to an article I wrote on Ceres drawing info from my family BDays [what else are families good for, if not for astro research] :-)

    Ceres Article

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    1. taurean alchemist’s avatar

      neith, the link didn’t work for me…. yes, families are excellent for astro research… my ceres in aqua is sextile mars in sadge… five daughters (so far)!! But I have a fifth house moon (Libra), so both creative and fertile (even with Saturn opposite). I’d love to read your article!

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  16. pegasus’s avatar

    Ceres does not appear to be anywhere on my chart according to Astrodient.
    My original chart was done in ‘88 & is incorrect according to Astro.Can see Lillith & Chiron
    placements.
    Anyways i don’t eat cereal, forgot to get married & was 45 before i thought of having
    a child…..Saggies take a long time to ‘grow up’, then it was too late.
    Until 7 years ago, did go to dance parties to dance with ‘my children’ and make sure
    they drank enough water.
    Said to god daughter, ‘they are all so happy & energetic’, she replied, ‘darling they are all on
    Xstacy’. Glad they were all in one room together:)
    Sun, Merc & Jupiter in Sagg…………2 speeds, fast & stop. And i can’t cook, but can massage up
    a storm, so to speak.

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  17. taurean alchemist’s avatar

    so glad Ceres in the natal not worthmuch Mystic, as I got it wrong yesterday – my ceres is in Aquarius conj Psyche. Am I an aquarian Mama? dunno. Am one shaken Mama today – pegasus I couldn’t talk about this on my blog when I replied to your comment – because the CUB’s woman found me on facebook this morning and we’ve been exchanging messages all day. Its all so very sad for her – she is completely hooked on him as was I…

    But I have this terrible intuition that the baby is not even HIS.

    and so for those of you who are discussing motherhood and the choice to sprog or not to sprog – I applaud those of you who choose NOT to have children – as a career mother I would not recommend having children to anyone who is not SURE, utterly SURE about them. I wish more people would choose not to have them.

    I have a million opinions on motherhood and you can find them every other day on http://www.mamamagic.wordpress.com

    meanwhile I hope all you adelaide peeps are going to keep friday may first (beltanes!) free for a drinky pooh with me for my birthday – dragonfly, vic sq, from 7.30.

    off to meditate and center myself after today’s revelations xx

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    1. no name brand’s avatar

      Yes exactly – it’s a career – and I already have one I like. Thanks TA – commitment is the key to it all xxx

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  18. Dan’s avatar

    More articles about Ceres you can find it on AstrologyDatabase.com http://www.astrologydatabase.com/tags/ceres

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  19. fluid feline’s avatar

    “In our modern “civilized” society, woman’s role as a loving person is divided. The sensuous, erotic function (woman as lover) has been disassociated from the maternal role (woman as mother). One example of the suppression of the sensuous aspect of the mother-child bond is the use of plastic pacifiers.” ….and this according to link is an expression of Ceres vs Venus (opp).. I have Ceres in Sagg close to South node in 10th and Venus Gem conj venus and north node in 4th. Very interesting as marriage I suspect imploded due to hbs self-centreness and his jealousy of my absolute devotion to my children through everything, yet I was sexually available, it all did change after children and i felt he didn’t get it; ie. how much they mattered more, ie. sick child needs to go to hospital for treatment – rolls eyes and goes back to sleep; I get viral meningitis and he goes out with children to purchase xmas tree while I suffer and phone hospital, he comes home and then agrees to drop me at hosptial door; I remain in hospital isolation unit for 6 days alone after spinal tap endured alone to diagnose. Same with birth of son (2nd). Drops me at hospital on Sun night ( growls, this better be for real) and arrives at 8.30 am for 9am delivery on the Monday morning after doc phoned at 6.30 am to say my waters broke – we live 15 minutes from the hospital where I delivered. So yes he is a major mistake and glad to be away from him. Where was I… maybe right, maybe just us. NNB, if you are reading you will be loving this bit.

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    1. no name brand’s avatar

      no i am so far from loving it i am crying because you went through something so awful and it’s lucky that mofo isn’t standing close by. Thank goodness you don’t have THAT demon in your world anymore – black candle worthy? xxxx

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  20. fluid feline’s avatar

    PS I only used a “plastic pacifer” ie dummy on my first child for all of say 2 weeks. Couldn’t do it, but know it works for plenty so no judgement, my girl just needed by boobs or closeness.

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  21. venus a-go-go’s avatar

    My Ceres is in Taurus… I like kids… kids like me… I feel no urge to have any at the moment.
    Not the type to get clucky. At all.

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