Retro-Pluto

f3fa3aefAvian Flower Serpent – Fred Tomaselli

PLUTO  is now retrograde & will be until September 2009.  The planet of Sex, Fate, Metamorphosis, Death & the Occult (just a few of the associations) retrogrades all the way back to the point it was at in February 2008…So anything super-deep/destined you may have been immersed in about then has some more to play out.

And Pluto – unlike some planets – functions even more effectively when retro. One of the  jobs of Pluto is to dredge up psych-shit and shove it into our cute little creatively visualising faces so that totally fits a retrograde cycle; retrospective. Revision etc.

For a clue as to this Pluto Retro cycle,  think what unfinished psych biz could you poss have that hails distinctly back to Feb 2008.  And then just draw upon the beautiful imagery of the Eagle and the Serpent above. Two distinctly different types of strength. Insanely mystical symbols.

And the degree it turns retro at is 3 Cap – thus ANYTHING  you have at Zero to One degrees is affected, especially if it is in Aries, Libra, Kataka or – of course – Capricorn. And note that Pluto stationing retro (now) or direct always creates a sort of Plutonic spike.  By the end of this weekend you will know how Pluto-sensitive you/your chart are/is.  If you want a super-long-winded (10,000 words) rave re Pluto in Cap et al, get Plutonic.

Yes, Pluto in Capricorn IS linked utterly to the G.F.C & all… I think September/Oct of this year is going to be a nadir, a real low that we need to prepare ourselves for. But that then we will start to see progress up toward the light again. With a new norm in early 2012. And fabulosity in 2018. See previous postings re G.F.C.

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  1. scorpalicious robot’s avatar

    3 degrees Capricorn rising. Exciting times. :)

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    1. Uranian&Plutonic Virgo’s avatar

      WOW robot, that’s amazing! Exciting seems like an understatement considering it’s Pluto. ;)

      Re: anything zero or one degree, my natal Jupiter is at 1 degree Cancer in 8th H. And the only Libra thing is Psyche in Libra at zero deg in 11th H. Feb 2008…oh dear…I thought it’s all dealt with…!

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      1. scorpalicious robot’s avatar

        meh, Pluto doesn’t phase me. Since Feb 08 i’ve changed/transformed so much i barely recognise myself. Just checked my chart again – i have Mars in Virgo – ZERO degrees and Lilith 2 degrees in Cap. It will be interesting indeed.

        Jupes in 8th sounds alright – maybe you’ll have transformation/luck with $$ ?

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  2. Blossom’s avatar

    Sun 1 degree taurus. Pluto retro.

    The Aquarian also has pluto retro, as well as mars 0 degrees pisces, eros 2 degrees cap in the 7th, saturn 3 degrees virgo retro, and just finishing saturn return. He’s being clobbered in all directions :) Feb 08 was significant for him. Wonder how this will play out.

    Strange thing happened last night. After a week of very intense weirding, suddenly went very calm. As if all emotion has gone and fatalism/acceptance has replaced it. It was so sudden I felt it happen. I have venus at 14 degrees aries. Was it pluto getting off my case?

    Scorpy, love your optimism. Newfound calmness means I feel I might be able to model it!

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    1. scorpalicious robot’s avatar

      calmness is a start. Perhaps you felt Pluto stationing?

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  3. taurean alchemist’s avatar

    wow… I’ve got about four planets/points at 0 Degrees.. so yay for more pluto-therapy… CUB’s mother started dying in FEb ‘08 – she was my first up-close experience of dying and death and it kinda freaked me.

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  4. fishgirl’s avatar

    Well my midheaven/10th house is 0 degrees aries…yet last feb was decidedly NOT a good time career-wise, in fact, that’s when my freelance gigs started drying up…does that mean they will completely finish now, i wonder? Or, time to get out the phoenix cape and revive, maybe…
    I haven’t had to look for a ‘real’ job for three years because the gods have blessed me with enough writing work, but yesterday i found myself doing laps of the cafe strip, hospitality resume in hand again…felt like i was in a time warp and 23 again…oh pluto, please give me strength

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  5. saggigal’s avatar

    argh, i am decidedly in 2 minds about this pluto retro. on the one hand, there is psyche-crapola from last year that i could effectively deal with properly, given the chance. so from that point of view, can be used constructively to re-do that period. but from the other hand, i have been sooo glad recently to get to a point where i could move forward, the many things that have been holding me in limbo finally making way for a new era, new choices etc. so its with a bit of a heavy heart that i have to ‘go backwards’ when i feel like ive only just turned the corner. i think i may return to therapy during this period to just go gung-ho on the resolving of whatever lingering issues there are.

    i think being a saggi who has only just gotten rid of pluto’s ‘grok the muck’ transit, i just feel a big groan when faced with it again. sorry guys, pretty negative take on it but this weekend ended up being a doozy…

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  6. fluid feline’s avatar

    Hmmm, I have north node at 1 deg Cancer in 4th house and Mars 3 deg Cancer in the 5th. Retro Pluto will conj my south node at the end of 10th house opposing my north node/mars conj – this is all looking very scary. About to go thru property settlement with ex wanting more time with kids (which they don’t). I think I’ll channel the Phoenix as well as the Eagle and Serpent.

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  7. xox rockstar libran publicist xox’s avatar

    with Sun 1 degree Libra – have NO desire to revisit Feb 08!!

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  8. xox rockstar libran publicist xox’s avatar

    BTW how does Pluto retro diff from Pluto transit??

    & is Pluto transit akin to Saturn return?
    like Saturn return @ circa 28 yrs – does Pluto transit have age bracket?
    or is it wherever it appears in yr chart?

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  9. fishgirl’s avatar

    Walked into cafe with resume in hand today. Sign on door: Waitresses needed. Apply within. Ask for Jason.

    “Hi, i was just wondering if Jason was around? I wanted to ask about some waitressing work?”
    Waiter disappears to fetch said manager.
    ‘Jason’ appears from behind some curtain, walks towards me, takes one look at me, mutters something to the waiter and disappears.
    Waiter pads up to me, “um, he’s got some work to do in the office. I can pass that on if you like” – snatches resume from my hand.

    DO I HAVE TWO HEADS??????

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    1. Uranian&Plutonic Virgo’s avatar

      That’s just effing rude fishgirl! What’s his problem!?! Forget that one, can you imagine working there?

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    2. prowlncat’s avatar

      No darl he just has no brain. It’s a congenital deformity common linked to too much testosterone. Just chill … something good will arrive as soon as ya let go.

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      1. fishgirl’s avatar

        Thanks. Here’s hoping.

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        1. scorpalicious robot’s avatar

          maybe he was pissed of because you looked hot and reminded him of his girlfriend – the one he’s having relationship problems with. Venus Retro/Venus square pluto? Just a thought. It could be anything. Just thank your lucky stars that you DIDN’T get the job. Imagine spending all day working someone so rude.

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          1. no name brand’s avatar

            so true SR – those are the ones you don’t want – you have been spared the job from hell fishgirl.

  10. Link’s avatar

    Oh FFS! NO. My life went ‘orribly ‘orribly pear shaped just after Feb ‘08. I am DEFINITELY not going through all that crap again. F o r g e t i t. I’s going forward into my future. (ta na). Pluto can take a flying leap.

    Fishgirl, Jason’s are to be avoided strenuously IMO. Consider yourself lucky.

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  11. Link’s avatar

    That’s Jasons plural, (btw). Yup. All of youse.

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  12. fishgirl’s avatar

    One of those mysterious encounters that will never be explained. I had a full face of MAKE UP ON AND A REALLY NICE TOP TOO!!! Why, Jason, Why???

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    1. unpredictable pisces’s avatar

      two words…. je. rk.

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      1. unpredictable pisces’s avatar

        actually you know what? it just occurred to me that you might have looked too nice. some people have such mega bizarre preconceptions. if you looked neat and yet hot, he might have thought you’d be a prissy trouble making type. this is NO judgement on u fishgirl obviously as i dont even know u! but with a name like Jason you wally have to wonder. Tyy looking for a Lachlan, Jono, Andy, maybe a Ben. they all seem cool in my experience ;) xo

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      2. fishgirl’s avatar

        i wish i knew how to do those little laughing icon things! Thanks UP!!

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  13. prowlncat’s avatar

    Same here as others re Feb 08 being the start of a walking nightmare from hell involving the Virgo with everything in Libra – that ended three months later with me feeling like my head had been rearranged and not in a good way. The current Double Bull has moon Libra too and was begining to sound suspiciously like the Virgo from last year.

    So I have taken a stand. Cut all ties. If he wants to resolve crap he can go do it with someone else. He can sodomise himself with certain vegetables as far as I’m concerned. I ain’t doing this shite no more! *polishes newly grown steel cahones*

    phew I feel so much better :)

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  14. saggigal’s avatar

    yeah, i have to concur- wtf was going on in the few months after Feb 2008? seems it was a fuqing dramatic torrid time all round. why oh why do we have to revisit that muck? honestly, positivity not my strong suite today, though an epsom salt bath, copious amounts of chamomile tea and some hard core psyche-depth work allayed the darkness somewhat.

    seriously though, feb-june 2008 was truly one of the worst periods of my life, and im not going back there.

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  15. Capriscorpia’s avatar

    Yep, last year was a b**ch and don’t want to go back there again.
    Am hoping there are some other positive transits around to
    save us all from horrid deja vu.

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  16. unpredictable pisces’s avatar

    feb last year was when i met the Taurus who is this bizarre mix of Still Screwed Up so Acting Up (yang) and Sweet Domestic Bliss (yin) … much fun at the time but becoming too much even for this flexi-pisces

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    1. unpredictable pisces’s avatar

      well i have Juno at 0 Sagg. apparently Juno is asteroid of whatever comes after the venus sex/lust infatuation part; it’s all about the life partner whatever after that. eeeeeeuuugh commitment *gag*

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      1. no name brand’s avatar

        there’s a time and place for commitment UP and if the thought of it makes you gag you should be giving it a swerve until it seems natural – if you force it it becomes about co dependence and twisted projections – *gag*

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        1. unpredictable pisces’s avatar

          yes…i think it’s the type of commitment that i think of that makes me gag. the place where i live is populated by illiterate boneheads and family types (nothing wrong with families, we’ve all got one, just the drudgery that goes with the early years i guess plus shitty early childhood messages / conditioning for me , to do with crap fathers and ..whatever). But if it’s with the right person it won’t be constant source of disappointment and frustration, feeling like i’m going to be chained to a house in the suburbs with a sedan and meathead husband…right?
          phew this girl’s got ISSUES

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          1. no name brand’s avatar

            o soz i touched a nerve inadvertantly – is it you simply thinking this is what the significant other wants from you or is it actually real? As in not a little mind map that you may have woven using skewed logic due to your own stuff carried since childhood? Have you straight out asked him what he wants from you? – not suggesting you do I have no idea of your dynamics etc but if you haven’t somehow gleaned their side of things then how do you know it is what they want from you? Maybe you are visualising what you most fear.

            If not then that sounds like a life draining place to be and I hope you can reinvent it so it works for you.

          2. unpredictable pisces’s avatar

            that’s a nice calm way to look at things NNB…thanku. No wasn’t u that touched a nerve – in fact i like what u said – Pleasant level-headed advice… rather it was the thought that maybe this pluto retro business was leading me in that direction. will investigate skewed logic and ask simple questions of The Taurus to get a grip on things and stop feeding this paranoia.
            I should also add that the place i live is more life-affirming than draining, but the locals can be are a piece of work!

          3. no name brand’s avatar

            ;o) excessive paranoia is like chasing marsh flies illusory and ephemeral – a certain amount is healthy tho – self preservation vs the prison of the mind it’s striking the balance that I have always found hard to balance myself.

  17. no name brand’s avatar

    does anyone know how chiron at 1 degree aries in the tenth would manifest? Uranus mars and venus are all hanging out there with MC which will apparently lead to something mad in the next few weeks but I can’t work out what the natal chiron thing will add to the mix.

    Pluto and dark moon lilith are transiting 7th house so I’m guessing that will bring up unresolved relationship power dynamics. NO I will not take that lying down scenarios…

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    1. Edwina’s avatar

      Chiron is the ‘wounded healer’ – you draw from your own spiritual/psychological wounding to heal others – if it is in your tenth house then this is career/what you should be doing with yourself….. so maybe pluto wants you to work out how you can help others deal with their shit? And the challenge is that it is in aries which does not really lend it self to self less sacrifice, and exposing your wounded weak self to others to help them grow!

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      1. no name brand’s avatar

        this is interesting because i had a chiron aura soma thing years ago and it was when i realised there are many ways to give of yourself or show your wounded side without it needing to be literal. if that makes sense…

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        1. no name brand’s avatar

          ie you can expose it via art and they draw from it whatever they need from your visual expression of your own stuff. abstract don’t give it a name it is more useful to others that way

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  18. Typical Taurus’s avatar

    Feb to July 08 were hell – complete with massive weight gain, suicidal thoughts and enough tears to end the drought. But since then I’ve learnt a lot about myself, lost 8 kilos, and discovered what I am & am NOT prepared to do to get ahead in career and love. I hope that means i’ll be stronger and more resilient this time around – oh please let that be the case!

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  19. saggigal’s avatar

    have realised after this weekend that i am tres pluto-sensitive. all the muck really did come to the surface.

    finally braced myself to look @ my chart again, and aha, i have Jupiter 2 degrees Cancer in the 3rd, Saturn at 0 degrees Virgo in 4th, and Chiron 1 degree Taurus in 1st. not entirely sure what this all means, except that certainly issues to do with expression, maturity and wounds/healing seem to be up for review…?

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  20. mandy’s avatar

    i cannot believe the weekend i had, it felt like i walked backwards through my life, v bizarre to explain. although definitely understandable when i quit my secure job last week only reason… i couldn’t get myself together after work incident occurred. spent weekend explaining to myself why it was for the best & to a shocked leo friend who couldn’t understand why i just couldn’t put up with it. only human i guess….

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  21. postmodscorp’s avatar

    Thankyou goddess…. nothing under 4 degrees anything… Can I get an easier ride for a while?

    Definately revisiting Post-Feb 08…. In post-feb 08, quit secure govt job to temp, and was share house hunting. Post-feb 09, got made redundant and am looking for new housemates…. Deja vu anyone? Spose I should get a reading done so I can bl**dy well figure out my lesson?!?

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