The Destiny Machine

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“WHAT DID IT DO? The Destiny Machine allowed visitors to alter their horoscope. By diverting the influence of their ruling planet to match that of a different planet they could claim the horoscope of a different star sign. Alternatively they could cancel out the influence of their ruling planet altogether to take charge of their own destiny. Some used it merely to reinforce their ruling planets effect….”

The Destiny Machine – an installation by John Gilbert

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  1. orangeblossom’s avatar

    :o ) nice – thanks for sharing this – it reinforces the talk of installations that aren’t naff and using pagan / esoteric themes. Your link to energy magic I have recently visited too – inspiring. Ideas are brewing.

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  2. prowlncat’s avatar

    How cool is that? I would immediately convert myself into an Uber Leo. Like Leo in EVERYTHING. Then I could be a famous, rich, megolomaniac performer artist person instead of a humdrum designer and closet fucked up folk singer that can’t get her riffs right.

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    1. orangeblossom’s avatar

      would you really change? I’m not sure I would – I’ve got to know how it is and what sorts of things to expect, kind of like when you’re at a party on a boat and you realise you just have to surrender to having a good time because you can’t get off until you reach the destination.

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      1. scorpalicious robot’s avatar

        OB, I hate boat parties or any function where i can’t make a quick getaway… it’s the moon in Sag i think.
        I wouldn’t change anything about myself. I like me just the way i am. :)

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        1. orangeblossom’s avatar

          Yup I’ve been to so many industry or away day things on boats and OMG it’s excruciating and when there’s a fancy dress thing as well as the boat, surreal. Haha but you have to just surrender I have learned. One of the first Q’s I always ask now is are there any boats involved. Then I start booking leave if the answer is yes.

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  3. unpredictable pisces’s avatar

    i’d amp up the leo or scorp, maybe aries…less worrying/thinking about others and more doing whatever the hell was good at the time and with maximum motivation and commitment

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    1. Leonine Librarian’s avatar

      This may be a little case of the grass is greener syndrome, as I seem to still with Leo sun and Scorp moon do quite a lot a worrying about other people’s feelings….

      Just because I know I’m equipped to ride roughshod over anything and everything doesn’t mean I do.

      Although maybe it is the Leo sun and Scorp moon that reinforces my happiness with me just the way I am…although there are still discoveries and changes to the multiple personal quirks, flaws, slow as mud evolution, lightening flash insights, talents, style, and irreverence…the whole shebang… it’s taken me this long to feel good about what I have I wouldn’t want to mess with it now.

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      1. scorpalicious robot’s avatar

        i feel the same LL. It’s taken me this long, why change!

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        1. Leonine Librarian’s avatar

          yeah I think it might be an acceptance thing…I still see myself changing within and without….I’m just happy to play in my own little pile of constellations…the idea of wanting to swap about some other ruling planet…nah + to me it’s a futile exercise, wishing for something impossible. I think the possible still has an enormous amount of room to revel in.

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          1. unpredictable pisces’s avatar

            darn you people and your common sense :) I suppose I’ll just have to take responsibility for who i am and what I do …

          2. scorpalicious robot’s avatar

            Oh yes, nice way to put it “happy to play with my own little pile of constellations”

          3. Leonine Librarian’s avatar

            UP I hope I didn’t just stomp all over your whimsy. Ironic for a Scorp and Leo to go all commonsensical on you too?lol.

            If the thought of being more Leo and or Scorp brings you joy…maybe the traits you ascribed to um us, are really things you are more than capable of within your own good fishy self?

            For me once I recognise it, it’s a little easier to grasp it…Maybe at a time where you would normally put the brakes on internally, and start to analysis all the ramifications occasionally you could do a quick scan and ‘hey what’s the worst thing that can happen?’ or ‘why not’ and if neither option is too dire take a leap.

            There is a fine line between thinking of others and paralysing your own instincts.

        2. orangeblossom’s avatar

          I agree – some scorpio just means I know how to be a bitch (then there’s that lilith on the asc thing too) but I choose not to because it’s not such a good big picture approach. Alienating peeps causes big problems down the track.

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          1. unpredictable pisces’s avatar

            Thank LL – no stomping was perceived … I think my conservative moon in cap has more of a grasp than i care to acknowledge sometimes. Maybe this upcoming Pluto conjunction – whenever – will sort that out.
            im sure there’a part of me that is shamelessly self aware and not afraid to show it. And give myself 110% to what I want. Maintenance of image and respect from others at all times.
            I think these are some key traits that I ascribe (i do like that word and don’t use it nearly often enough) to scorps / leos etc without really giving it much thought or thinking that i can do that too (at least, more often than I do). After all these years of growing up you think i’d be able to manage it by now!

  4. prowlncat’s avatar

    You guys are right of course … it’s better to be humble, kind and helpful regardless of star sign, talent, intelligence or whatever. It just feels better to be in the flow than at odds with the world.

    I must have been having one of those transandental Aquaesque inspired fantasies of what it would be like if I REALLY had no conscience … the conclusion of which is that it would suck and I’d be a totally appalling human being.

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    1. orangeblossom’s avatar

      It’s not entirely about being sweetness and light – it might not even be that at all – for me it’s more self-preservation not to shit in my own nest :0) Not humble kind or helpful – just can’t be bothered with distracting drama.

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    2. Leonine Librarian’s avatar

      prowlncat, I like the way you put that it feels better to be in the flow than at odds with the world.

      I found through Saturns transit through Leo I took this a little too far though. I was so knocked sideways with events that ensued throughout this time, that I allowed myself to be well and truly declawed, defanged, into this person that didn’t trust her own instincts. It was very bleh. I think I’ve found some middle ground since then, and some acceptance that with so many different ways of expressing ourselves there will always be someone I piss off. It’s an inevitable by product of being me. The other by product of being me is that if some nasty floats to the surface it’s usually triggered by some fairly actionable behaviour around me… I don’t live in a void. There are valid reasons sometimes to unleash the beast. Moderation works best for me though… that way I’m not at odds with the world. Actually this whole creating a sound structure to operate from( that Mystic has advocated) really helps keep me from extreme moments.

      Talking with Taurean friend, with Leo rising today and we discussed the times we’ve rebelled against structure just because well it was structured…that we thought it often sucked all the fun out of things…however we’ve found sometimes there are core values hidden in the structure that have sustained there longevity in society. There are plenty of structures that I still find flawed, but for me I’m sifting through and viewing structure as sometimes supportive, rather than restrictive…very new concepts on a day to day basis for me to have some baseline routines.

      Oh and it helps me find my car keys….simple stuff, very effective. So off topic when I can’t sleep. Want sleep bad.

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      1. unpredictable pisces’s avatar

        interesting thoughts LL… the bits about trusting instinct and the basic concept of can’t please everyone . It’s soooo obvious i know … but so easy for me to forget..i don’t know why…even though there are parts of me that are always working towards at least one personal goal.
        and the other parts of me go beserk at the thought of me questioing if I need the things i live for – all so that i can meet someone else’s needs. CRAZY. But: where do we draw the line between love and sacrifice, and keeping the dream alive? As i write that I think of the fire / desire to grow/achieve within, and what makes it grow, and what starves it . hope makes sense. must work now.

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        1. Leonine Librarian’s avatar

          UP I find sometimes the basic stuff the hardest to get…I need to get hit upside the head with it repeatedly till I get it…um thanks Saturn in Leo.

          I figure we all have times where we get caught up in just getting stuff done…for me saturn in leo was both a blessing and a curse, as it tossed all of my old ways of doing things out and around. In some ways I had way too much time to think, and in others just the right amount to grow…but it’s hard.

          I’ve been working for years on being able to compromise, without being compromised. If I take the really long view, any time I’ve made a significant change in my life someone in my life doesn’t like it. There are some that do, but change messes with people’s own perceptions of themselves…change from someone else they care about unsettles them.

          I’m presently trying to blend my own needs/dreams/desires with some of needs of people I have close relationships with. There is a part of me that would love to do the extreme thing(do exactly what I want with total disregard for consequences) , because quite frankly trying to blend it is hard work, and it slows the whole process down. ie getting what I want/need.

          Thank you for mentioning ‘what makes it grow and what starves it’, for some reason this phrase in particular resonates…I need to look at what commonality my different fuels have. I think this may be where my life has a richer texture, but also gets a bit more twisty. Maybe looking at this may answer where the line lies between love and sacrifice.

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      2. prowlncat’s avatar

        hey LL …. I know what you mean about overcompensating – going the other way – becoming an out and out doormat or people pleaser, or just losing that quiet inner personal confidence to make any self actuating decisions at all – can be just as destructive to self as having an over inflated sense of ego and bulldozerish self determination.

        I had that very same experience you stated during a four year phase of god-awful Saturn transits – back to back Saturn return, then Saturn in Cancer. Came out of it more than a tad crumpled – smashed crab was more like it. (I am a cancer btw) That was followed by a friggin two year stint of Pluto Moon square where I actually DID go bonkers.

        In retrospect, it seems as if a long term process was underway – I had to be flattened for awhile, because there was too much rot in my psyche, too many effed up fixed ideas that I just couldn’t shift via my own will, because I wasn’t aware of them anyway, let alone how reactive I had become to them. Only THEN could some healthy rebuilding occur.

        The challenge these days is having the wisdom to know when to rock the boat, when to just shut up and keep paddling, or when to simply let go and have faith that the prevailing current is taking me somewhere – even if I am clueless as to where the hell that is.

        Having a chart full of mutable air and fire signs with absolutely zero earth, I used to think I was like this cosmically fated anarchist and always had a “fight the power” attitude to bleedin anything that sniffed of structure. So I get where you are coming from re the structure thing. Now though I realise my purpose is the opposite – I’m here to learn to ground myself within useful structures and routines, that actually nurture and support my more creative/mutable nature without becoming a totally wafty flake. LOL

        And THAT is definitely a work in progress …. *chuckles*

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        1. Leonine Librarian’s avatar

          Holy fuq prowlncat that is/was a hellish Saturn transit run…like running a guantlet, reaching the finish line and finding another guantlet appear, and then just when you think you can catch your breath, a tunnel appears ala plut style.

          I’m glad you can see the positives in it now. And yes to have the jackhammer reveal as you said all those reactive ways we have, that we’re not concious of. Hell of a process.

          A Taurean bloke friend that I’ve bouncing a lot of well anything off lately, mentioned something the other day about making a choice between feeling as though a rug has been pulled from out under you, or whether it’s a moving carpet that you dance on to keep your balance. Then we segued into non-choices still being choices.

          I’m only recently been peeling away some of the habits I built throughout that Saturn in Leo time. Lot’s of self discovery, not all pleasant, and yes there have been some great lessons…’cept my sense of safety was so messed up at that time that I also built in lot of go slow mechanisms.

          Right now, even though I find the structure and routines not natural to me either, I find it much better to be building them than the suffocating ennui I was nestled into.

          Also freaking beautiful definition of a particular type of rebel, ‘cosmically fated anarchist and always had a “fight the power” attitude to bleedin anything that sniffed of structure.’

          Grounded wafty flake…sort of like smearing whipped cream over a mud cake and then sprinkling with the ever delectable flake chocolate.. Lunch…

          good luck prowlncat, it helps hearing we’re all going through our good fights.

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          1. prowlncat’s avatar

            ROFL …. whipped cream smeared mud cake with flake chocolate sprinkles for lunch … sounds divine. Gotta watch it though – have a zillion Jupiter transits in progress and coming up so gotta watch the blumin waist line and that I don’t lose all sense of proportion in general.

            But yuh … the Saturn/Pluto gig was six years of YEUUUCHHHH that one is thankful for with hindsight but with a pleading “don’t EVER do that to me again Universe” adage.

            Bulls are cool hey? So tranquil. Most of the time. My partner is Double Bull with Libran Moon and is so freakin Venusian that whenever we’re together it’s like slothing out in a flower filled field by a babbling brook on a lazy summers day. Except when he’s got some bug up his ass which does happen on occasion.

            Yeah and all power to you to! Go the personal evolution of consciousness – or whatever the word is for all this damn growth.

          2. Leonine Librarian’s avatar

            Had to laugh at your bovine disclosure statement ala sometimes placid… makes me think of that disney movie Ferdinand the Bull where the only time he gets all aggro is because he sits on a bee, and he actually prefers just smelling the flowers.

  5. Leonine Librarian’s avatar

    there=their=shmere

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  6. scorpalicious robot’s avatar

    Lovely imagery of your Bull prowlncat. I can smell the daisies.

    LL, love the Ferdinand the Bull reference too… hee hee. So true of Taureans. I want one!!

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